Registering a non functional vehicle that needs an emmisions test. What kind of a pain will that be?

[USMC88-93]

Have a car due for renewal in March, but it is currently non functional and not financially workable to repair for a while. The renewal requires an emissions test. Do they have any form of a non drive-able registration .

[sigmanx]

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[sigmanx]

Have a car due for renewal in March, but it is currently non functional and not financially workable to repair for a while. The renewal requires an emissions test. Do they have any form of a non drive-able registration .I've personally never heard of a non drivable registration.

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[Irving]

Why not just wait until it is driveable again? The max fine for a lapse is $100. Will the hassle of working with DMV to find some sort of registration (that may not exist) be worth more than $100 maximum?

[USMC88-93]

Why not just wait until it is driveable again? The max fine for a lapse is $100. Will the hassle of working with DMV to find some sort of registration (that may not exist) be worth more than $100 maximum?

I am not opposed to that and in truth that is likely what will happen, I just am curious if such an animal exist.. since the state treats it as an ownership tax instead of a true usage registration.

[Irving]

I believe they way the DMV handles that issue is temp tags with decreasing duration each time you renew the temp tag until it is a one day at a time thing.

[68Charger]

IIRC, There is some "de-registering" procedure that makes it in a "title only" status with no penalties when you're ready to register again.

ETA: after a quick search, it appears the Demoncratic CO legislature may have removed that option... I only see a "parts only" title option so you can pay them tax... what bovine scatology

[Great-Kazoo]

Why not just wait until it is driveable again? The max fine for a lapse is $100. Will the hassle of working with DMV to find some sort of registration (that may not exist) be worth more than $100 maximum?


I am not opposed to that and in truth that is likely what will happen, I just am curious if such an animal exist.. since the state treats it as an ownership tax instead of a true usage registration.

There's no requirement to register any vehicle until it's road worthy. We have 3 unregistered / current plated on the property, when speaking with DMV IF i needed to move one of them. They said come down with valid ins card, get a temp tag, walk out. Until it's ready for emission testing (if required) don't waste your time or money

[Gman]

I hadn't seen it mentioned, so I'll be Master of the Obvious: I wouldn't park it on the street unregistered.

[xiondavis]

Someone mentioned that the max fine is $100 for late registration. I know from experience that if you are a couple months late they make you pay that two months of back registration. (As well they should, no free rides).

However, I have a collectable/specialty vehicle that was last registered in 2008 and has not been driven since, but instead parked on jack stands for mechanical reasons. Does anyone know if they are going to try to make me pay 10 years of back registration (plus a $100 max late fee) on this fine automobile when I walk into the DMV once it is back together?

[def90]

If tags aren't current you can't park it on a street nor in any condo, apartment or HOA covered parking lot. Pretty much every lease I have seen states that any vehicle on the property must be licensed as well as most HOA covenants have similar line items.

So.. depends on where the vehicle is stored.

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[Great-Kazoo]

Someone mentioned that the max fine is $100 for late registration. I know from experience that if you are a couple months late they make you pay that two months of back registration. (As well they should, no free rides).

However, I have a collectable/specialty vehicle that was last registered in 2008 and has not been driven since, but instead parked on jack stands for mechanical reasons. Does anyone know if they are going to try to make me pay 10 years of back registration (plus a $100 max late fee) on this fine automobile when I walk into the DMV once it is back together?

Always call the source, DMV Like i said vehicles we had expired registrations on, the only thing they did charge for was new plates.

[Great-Kazoo]

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Re: ten year registration


No, you only pay the $100 late fee plus your regular registration. I finally renewed the bike a bit ago, was only a six year gap. (2012 exp - 2018 exp). Cost: $100 + 92 reg. fee. Granted, it wasn't running during that entire period... but I have sometimes neglected my registration for a couple.... or fifty months.

So far I've kept a few hundred $ to feed my family over the last few years that would have otherwise been stolen from me on top of all sorts of other theft. Things are a little more laid back over here though.

Random factoid: They seem to use the same color scheme for stickers about every four years, btw. 2014: Yellow 2018: Yellow. I just have an exceptionally good memory for the color of those stickers.

ETA: By no means am I advocating "free rides" and YMMV. [For the record, I think you need to take advantage of a quid-pro-quo to have a free ride]. I have paid quid, I have not received quo. It is Colorado that has had a free ride.

You have me confused with another post.

[68Charger]

Always call the source, DMV Like i said vehicles we had expired registrations on, the only thing they did charge for was new plates.

Not so any more... if your registration expired, you WILL owe late fees on top of the new registration fee. It is capped at $100

It at least USED to be that you could turn in the plates (de-register), then when you went to re-register there were no late fees... I don't see that option (but it may still exist)
another trick is to xfer the title to your SO as a gift (so no sales tax) then they register it fresh, no late fees (but there is a title application fee)

I don't miss the Colorado DMV

[Great-Kazoo]

Not so any more... if your registration expired, you WILL owe late fees on top of the new registration fee. It is capped at $100

It at least USED to be that you could turn in the plates (de-register), then when you went to re-register there were no late fees... I don't see that option (but it may still exist)
another trick is to xfer the title to your SO as a gift (so no sales tax) then they register it fresh, no late fees (but there is a title application fee)

I don't miss the Colorado DMV

Interesting, but thanks for an update. Guess i'll have to register my vehicles in another state, hopefully sooner than later.

[ray1970]

another trick is to xfer the title to your SO as a gift (so no sales tax)

When did that change? When I signed my kid’s cars over to them when they graduated there was a “gift tax” involved. I found it easier to write them a bill of sale for $1 and just pay the taxes on that sales price than to pay their “gift tax”.

[ben4372]

The DMV is getting just as crafty as the rest. If you but a car you can transfer just title. As in a project not road worthy. Then go get your temp when operational. If you take a vehicle off the road to restore and want to keep the plates, you can pay just ownership tax. No registration, I think you post the paperwork to the window. You do this directly with the state. I think you need to go to the 20th and Peirce office. Transfer to a trusted person is easier. Some people like to keep it as a one owner car. Now it's a three owner if you get a CarFax. I find it funny the state wants money while you restore or park it.

[spongejosh]

You can register it as non-op. If you do it before the tags expire you avoid late fees. As expected with government, there's a form for that.

Affidavit of Non-Use of Vehicle
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sites/default/files/DR2303_2.pdf

[Irving]

When did that change? When I signed my kid’s cars over to them when they graduated there was a “gift tax” involved. I found it easier to write them a bill of sale for $1 and just pay the taxes on that sales price than to pay their “gift tax”.

I though this changed a few years ago, where no matter what you paid for the vehicle, the taxes are based on a set percentage of the new purchase price?

[Monky]

So there is another option.. you can bypass emissions I think if you've already spent over $700 to fix a failed emissions..

Otherwise.. let it lapse.. park it so the expired tags can't be seen.. HOA and such love to tow for expired tags.. or rather their contracted tow company that cruises the block will with their license plate scanners.

[crays]

When did that change? When I signed my kid’s cars over to them when they graduated there was a “gift tax” involved. I found it easier to write them a bill of sale for $1 and just pay the taxes on that sales price than to pay their “gift tax”.
I though this changed a few years ago, where no matter what you paid for the vehicle, the taxes are based on a set percentage of the new purchase price?I don't think Bill of Sale holds any weight anymore.

Saw it in person when the better half registered a motorcycle several years ago. The purchase was made from a very motivated seller (about 60% of fair market value, clean title, legal sale), with a BoS.
Registration did not reflect purchase price but an entirely different value. I'll have to see if we still have that registration receipt.

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[ben4372]

I don't think Bill of Sale holds any weight anymore.

Saw it in person when the better half registered a motorcycle several years ago. The purchase was made from a very motivated seller (about 60% of fair market value, clean title, legal sale), with a BoS.
Registration did not reflect purchase price but an entirely different value. I'll have to see if we still have that registration receipt.

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Yep. I had same thing happen. Bought a car that was a mess. Paid way less than book value. I had to pay based on value they assigned. They said they got tired of under valued BOSs. Next car they couldn't tell if it was a 4 that was changed to a 9. Made me track down seller with a statement of fact form. Now how was I to benefit from inflating the value to a number that makes more sense?

[dirtrulz]

You cant have a vehicle in sight from public property without current tags. That means in your driveway or your back yard if they can look over your fence without trespassing. At least in aurora, i know from experience.

[COcz]

I though this changed a few years ago, where no matter what you paid for the vehicle, the taxes are based on a set percentage of the new purchase price?

This is true. They go off of their "book" value now no matter what you paid. Not sure if the gifting thing works, but the $1 sale does not.

There is some amount of repair money you have to spend a some "certified repair shop" before you can get a emissions waiver. If it would pass but has some other problem I don't know what they do. I would bet there is some sort of low income program for this, not saying you need it. I have a couple beater trucks just cause, and had to rush last year to get one smogged.