View Full Version : Governor Candidate Jared Polis vows to rid Colorado of "Assault Weapons"
CoGirl303
02-19-2018, 11:13
http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/polis-less-talk-action-tackling-gun-violence/
On Feb. 14, 17 children and educators were gunned down inside their school in Parkland, Fla. The idea of parents saying goodbye to their kids in the morning only to never see them again is too horrific to put into words. But while most of us know about the tragedy in Parkland, we’ve heard barely a thing about the dozens of other shootings that have occurred already in 2018.
Americans have become so desensitized to horrific violence that many tragedies that would be unthinkable in most developed nations barely register in the news cycle in the United States. In fact, on that day alone, there were at least seven other victims killed in shootings throughout the country.
Here in Colorado we are all too familiar with the agony of gun violence. Communities like Littleton, Thornton, Colorado Springs, and Aurora still grapple with the reality of family members never returning home from a movie, school, their doctor’s office, or simply running errands.
In my time in public office, I’ve encountered few issues as polarizing as our nation’s deadly gun violence epidemic. It shouldn’t be this way. Like most Coloradans, I support our Second Amendment right to use guns for defense and sport. And like most Coloradans, I think we should take action to reduce gun violence and help save lives. Nothing about these views is incompatible.
We’ve already taken bold action here in Colorado to tackle gun violence, including passing universal background checks and closing the gun-show loophole. As governor, I would stand up to the gun-manufacturing lobby and build on the progress we’ve made in several ways.
First, we need to keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers. Again and again, we see mass shootings carried out by men with a history of abusing the women in their lives. Every year in this country, more than 750 people, mostly women, are murdered by current or former intimate partners with a gun. What’s more, the presence of a gun in a domestic violence situation increases the risk of homicide for women by 500 percent. When a domestic abuser with a pattern of violent threats or actions is issued a restraining order, law enforcement should be empowered to go to court to suspend the abuser’s access to firearms. We can do this in a way that protects due process for the accused
We also must do a better job getting weapons of war — which serve no legitimate sporting purpose — off our streets. And we should ban bump stocks, devices designed solely to convert legal weapons into illegal weapons that can kill dozens of people in less than a minute.
Too often when we discuss gun violence, we don’t acknowledge the toll it takes on the men and women of law enforcement. Since Dec. 31, three Colorado sheriff’s deputies have been shot and killed in the line of duty. Though we can’t fully eliminate the risks officers face on the job, we can work to minimize them — starting with ensuring all officers in Colorado are equipped with bullet-proof vests. I would also like to convene a task force of community leaders and law enforcement members to put forward best practices for police safety such as the use of ballistic plates, helmets, and other advanced protective gear that doesn’t result in situation escalation.
Another too-often overlooked but deadly issue is black-market gun sales, which are enabling violent criminals and gangs to purchase firearms without background checks. The root of this issue is gun theft. In 2015 and 2016 alone, smash-and-grab gun store robberies resulted in nearly 400 guns being stolen in Colorado. We should work to equip gun shops with strong security measures like closed-circuit cameras, discrete signage, and reinforced windows, which are already required of marijuana dispensaries in Colorado. We can also look to the example of communities outside Colorado, such as Richmond, Va., that have strengthened penalties for illegal gun sales and for selling guns to felons — and seen armed robberies and gun homicides drop substantially as a result.
Finally, when you examine the issue of gun violence closely enough, it’s impossible to discuss it without also addressing mental health care, addiction prevention, and criminal justice reform. It would take several more essays to do each of these subjects justice, but for now I will just say that a safer society is one in which mental illness is not stigmatized, addiction is treated through medical care rather than prison, and race doesn’t dictate one’s likelihood of being a victim of violent crime
It’s unfortunate that some politicians care more about what a handful of high-powered Washington lobbyists think than what the American people need. Even though an overwhelming majority of Americans — including more than three quarters of gun owners — support common-sense measures like universal background checks, we can’t even get a vote on them in either chamber of Congress.
These lobbyists will tell you that trying to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and terrorists is somehow equivalent to trying to ban law-abiding Americans from owning guns. That’s like saying supporting anti-drunk-driving laws is the same thing as trying to ban cars.
We should continue to demand action from Congress. But there is also a lot we can do right here, right now to save lives in Colorado. We just have to stop rehashing partisan talking points and commit to taking real action.
Jared Polis is a Democratic candidate for Colorado governor and currently is the U.S. representative for Colorado’s 2nd District.
This guy is completely dangerous to the 2nd Amendment and the rights of all gun owners.
Great-Kazoo
02-19-2018, 12:47
http://www.aurorasentinel.com/opinion/polis-less-talk-action-tackling-gun-violence/
This guy is completely dangerous to the 2nd Amendment and the rights of all gun owners.
You just figured that out.
The civil liberties and Constitutional Rights we've enjoyed at one time in CO have been slowly eroded thanks to a D power within the state. Even more so with the influx of CA residents fleeing what they believe to be repressive laws and massive taxes. Only to want the same shit here.
kidicarus13
02-19-2018, 13:27
No surprises here...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180219/45d6f3250b003ef7d601df07257b0e62.jpg
jreifsch80
02-19-2018, 14:08
So he wants to ban “weapons of war” because they have “no legitimate sporting purpose”? I feel like a fool, all this time I didn’t think the second amendment had a “lagetimate sporting purpose” clause in it. So the article makes a comparison to drunk driving laws not banning cars.... first of all drive cars or drinking alcohol are not expressly protected rights like the 2 amendment second with all the bans on fairearms liberals want to impose they should tell people that their bans are like if they only allowed the sales of 3.2 beer in all stores and bars and banning real beer wine and spirits, I’m sure people would love a ban like that (but it’s for the children)
When the US Capitol Police disarm and give up all those weapons of war paid for by taxpayers, Jared Polis still won't get my vote...for any elected office.
Zundfolge
02-19-2018, 20:00
When Polis wins, that will be the final nail in CO's coffin.
hurley842002
02-19-2018, 20:18
When Polis wins, that will be the final nail in CO's coffin.Yup, big emphasis on WHEN.
Seems like this MIGHT be enough of a wake up call to get the Colorado GOP to pull their head out of their collective ass and field a candidate that has a chance of actually winning. Not likely, but possible.
The Group Of Patsies will never do that in this state.
Will1776
02-19-2018, 23:07
Wow he makes Hickenlooper look great lol
CoGirl303
02-19-2018, 23:10
5 years ago he was against an assault weapons ban. Now he's done a complete about face.
https://www.denverpost.com/2013/01/24/colorados-sens-udall-and-bennet-uncommitted-on-assault-weapons-ban/
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It’s called playing to the masses. He doesn’t personally care either way. Politicians don’t believe their own bullshit. They just say what gets them the most votes. 5 years ago it was bad business to call for a ban on aesthetically disliked firearms (because the mechanical reality is not the hated thing). Now, it’s good business. With the virtue signaling stupidity of the RINOs, etc., he will not face the reality of losing votes that he wouldn’t have lost anyway.
Look at the grandstanding in the rest of his letter:
* Cops without bulletproof vests — where? If any are on this forum who are cops and cannot afford PPE, PLEASE let us know so we can eat leftovers for a few days and pool our money to get you protected.
* Gunstores with CCTV and reinforced windows. Does he mean to say that he wants CO to fund that, or that CO should force that? If the former, why the need for banning something that only law abiding citizens can have? Just harden the source and voila, right? If the latter, I repeat myself.
BushMasterBoy
02-20-2018, 00:23
His District is Boulder, Broomfield, Clear Creek, Eagle, Gilpin, Grand, Jefferson, Larimer, Summit, and Park counties.
Surely there is enough dirt to bury his career in politics ?
BPTactical
02-20-2018, 09:52
Polis is a fag
no, really
Polis is a fag
no, really
Yup
Grant H.
02-20-2018, 10:23
Look at the grandstanding in the rest of his letter:
* Cops without bulletproof vests — where? If any are on this forum who are cops and cannot afford PPE, PLEASE let us know so we can eat leftovers for a few days and pool our money to get you protected.
Quoted just for emphasis...
Seriously, if there are any here who don't have it, let us help.
Rucker61
02-20-2018, 11:23
I just asked Polis about this post-Aurora and Sandy Hook position that he had in 2013 on his Polis for Governor Facebook page.
"Jared, what changed? In 2013 you told the Denver Post:
"Rep. Jared Polis, D-Boulder, says he thinks banning weapons possessed by law-abiding people violates the Second Amendment.
“I believe it would make it harder for Colorado families to defend themselves and also interfere with the recreational use of guns by law-abiding Coloradans,” Polis said. “If we want to reduce violence, we should invest in improving our schools to ensure that young people have jobs and do not turn to gangs, crime or violence of any form, and improving access to mental health services.”"
He responded:
As a parent, a member of Congress and candidate for governor I’ve always been committed to doing everything in my power to reduce gun violence and prevent another mass shooting from taking place in our schools, in our movie theaters and night clubs. Yes, that includes an assault weapons ban and when one is introduced in Congress, I plan to co-sponsor it. I have been focused on passing universal background checks which I believe is a policy within our grasp to pass even with a Republican Congress, but I also believe we need to lead on all fronts. It's not an either or approach, it's an all of the above approach that we need to stop another tragedy."
My response:
"Will this be the same type of legislation we saw in 1994, 2013 and 2015 that grandfathers all existing "assault weapons"? Given that handguns are more commonly used in mass shootings according to Mother Jones data, are you also going to introduce legislation banning those?"
Edit: It's a rubber stamp response. It's the same response to every post that mentions "assault weapons".
KevDen2005
02-20-2018, 11:27
Quoted just for emphasis...
Seriously, if there are any here who don't have it, let us help.
First and foremost, if there isn't there is a government grant that your department can get to help in the purchase of those. But I can't see this is a common thing. Insurance rates for departments that don't require it are much higher
kidicarus13
02-20-2018, 11:34
Typical politician flip-flop. I'll say what I need to get votes but then do whatever I want.
Rucker61
02-20-2018, 11:55
Typical politician flip-flop. I'll say what I need to get votes but then do what I want... gifsgallery.com/fish+out+of+water+gif
And it won't matter one bit to his voters. The important thing is to be protected now! Even though since 2013 there have been 193 murders in mass shootings with an "assault weapon" but about 32,000 murders with handguns, 150,000 traffic deaths and almost 5,000 bicycle riding deaths. It's the AWB that will make us all safe.
The GOP needs to be grounded until they learn to behave.
BPTactical
02-20-2018, 13:46
Make no mistake there is one reason and one reason only the Politicos want to ban certain firearms...
...and it aint for the childrunz safety.
Make no mistake there is one reason and one reason only the Politicos want to ban certain firearms...
...and it aint for the childrunz safety.
I'm disappointed so many people still want to debate facts and have a conversation. The gun debate isn't about facts in 2018. It's about political violence and the ability to project that violence beyond the shittys against enemies.
Handguns are used far more often to murder, by Leftists in cities, but are not the subject of a ban.
Rifles are used far less in crime but the tool of choice for defending the suburbs, exburbs, and rurals, so rifles must be banned.
This is also why the media pimps black rifle violence and the promotion of little monsters (name in lights).
This math isn't hard.
If we paint our black (bad) rifles white (good) would they still be scary?
If we paint our black (bad) rifles white (good) would they still be scary?
Yes. Because then they’d be racist.
I wonder how far the media would get with their agenda of big government and no personal rights if they tried something radical? And that is to STOP FUCKING LYING ALL THE TIME!
If we paint our black (bad) rifles white (good) would they still be scary?
They would have to have a lot of wood on them to be good. Decked out like a Cadillac or lawyers office.
https://youtu.be/f0WgYfqgoHQ
He beat me to it.
Hopefully....hopefully... he doesnt win.
I have my fears.
colorider
02-20-2018, 23:16
I have my fears as well. Our state has turned to the left and seems to get worse every day. I deal with the public every day and the migration to CO from leftist states has been outrageous.
In my worst nightmares I see a douchebag getting elected and using California's absurd laws and their guide for CO gun reform. Gun control is such a low hanging fruit right now for somebody to get elected in CO. Or any other state with Libtards as a majority.
KevDen2005
02-20-2018, 23:38
What if George Brauchler becomes Attorney General?
Great-Kazoo
02-20-2018, 23:42
What if George Brauchler becomes Attorney General?
He's a Politician.
Don't need a weather vane to know which way the wind blows.
Jeffrey Lebowski
02-21-2018, 06:58
This guy or Donna Lynne? We are so lucky here in Colorado!!!
Bailey Guns
02-21-2018, 07:28
Governor Polis is a fag
You just needed a little help there...
You know it's coming.
hurley842002
02-21-2018, 07:42
You just needed a little help there...
You know it's coming.Absolutely it is.
KevDen2005
02-21-2018, 09:46
He's a Politician.
Don't need a weather vane to know which way the wind blows.
I'm just saying he would probably be butting heads with Polis.
I was hoping that this state wouldn't totally go off the deep end before my retirement in 8 years, but I doubt it. I can't leave this place fast enough!
KevDen2005
02-21-2018, 16:07
I was hoping that this state wouldn't totally go off the deep end before my retirement in 8 years, but I doubt it. I can't leave this place fast enough!
I have been talking all day with my wife about this. Starting over now wouldn't be good for my career path and I have too many years under my current retirement system to start another one, but I still have 14 years before I would be ready for a decent retirement, but I was hoping to do another 20.
What would really help CO is if the CO senate was comprised of one senator from each county....
The house could be made up based upon population.
That would really help balance the power in the state. What works in Boulder doesnt necessarily work in Sterling (and vice versa). And what works in leadville might not work in limon. Just thinking that there are various areas in the state who's needs need to be balanced.
Great-Kazoo
02-21-2018, 21:54
What would really help CO is if the CO senate was comprised of one senator from each county....
The house could be made up based upon population.
That would really help balance the power in the state. What works in Boulder doesnt necessarily work in Sterling (and vice versa). And what works in leadville might not work in limon. Just thinking that there are various areas in the state who's needs need to be balanced.
Denver, boulder & Ft Collins would carry the house for D's.
theGinsue
02-21-2018, 22:13
You just figured that out.
The civil liberties and Constitutional Rights we've enjoyed at one time in CO have been slowly eroded thanks to a D power within the state. Even more so with the influx of CA residents fleeing what they believe to be repressive laws and massive taxes. Only to want the same shit here.
This says it all
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http://www.captainsjournal.com/2018/02/18/prominent-republican-donor-issues-ultimatum-on-assault-weapons/
A prominent Republican political donor demanded on Saturday that the party pass legislation to restrict access to guns, and vowed not to contribute to any candidates or electioneering groups that did not support a ban on the sale of military-style firearms to civilians.
You see, you can change the constitution if you wish, and I won’t change a thing about myself or what I do. My rights come from God, not the constitution. I’ve oft repeated that the constitution is a covenant, an agreement, just like in marriage or work. There are blessings for those who honor that covenant, and curses for those who don’t. Under the second amendment, the government has covenanted and contracted not to infringe. The constitution isn’t God and cannot issue rights or duties – it’s an agreement before God and men. As for infringe, they have many times, of course, and if not for the longsuffering nature of the American people, the curses of covenant breakage would have already obtained.
KevDen2005
02-22-2018, 07:54
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2018/02/18/prominent-republican-donor-issues-ultimatum-on-assault-weapons/
Man I hope Jeb stops getting funding, he sucks too...
Good article and really funding to these idiots need to stop and hopefully someone with a set of balls can step up and really represent people. But they won't. They will take the money and change their stance. That's what politicians do. I like how the article calls the donor a bully. He is. He is used to getting his way with his pocket book and can't stand when he doesn't.
nikolatesla19
02-23-2018, 08:07
Damn it I was beat to it.... Racist....
If we paint our black (bad) rifles white (good) would they still be scary?
No that would be racist.....[emoji12]
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Welcome to our next governor elected by Denver and Boulder?
Welcome to our next governor elected by Denver and Boulder?
This is what would happen nationally if it weren't for the Electoral College. Imagine Hayden, Limon, or Cortez having as much say in picking statewide office holders as Denver.
Welcome to our next governor elected by Denver and Boulder?
+ Telluride area.
If you haven’t already stop what your doing, and call your Representatives and Senators and tell them to vocally oppose any and all further infringements of the Second Amendment at the Local, State, and National levels.
*Rep. Ken Buck (R) at
(970) 702-2136
*Sen. Michael Bennet (D) at
(303) 455-7600
*Sen. Cory Gardner (R) at
(303) 391-5777
Call the Republican National Committee at
(202) 863-8500
Tell them enough is enough, we’re done “having the conversation” about “common sense gun control” and shall not be infringed means something last time you checked.
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This is why I think the CO senate should be one senator for each county.
Would be much better for the whole of CO
Grant H.
02-23-2018, 22:13
Welcome to our next governor elected by Denver and Boulder?
And Fort Collins, and Pueblo, and and and...
The population centers are blue, and continuing to grow.
You have to.admit that the Reps in Colorado have put out some real turds in the last few elections though..
Colorado still has a.huge independent voter base that could easily override the dems.
KevDen2005
02-23-2018, 22:28
You have to.admit that the Reps in Colorado have put out some real turds in the last few elections though..
Colorado still has a.huge independent voter base that could easily override the dems.
At least you're optimistic. I'm not. And I just saw a news article about a health care plan the governor plans to introduce. This place is taxing us to death for sure.
If they tax you to death by providing "affordable" healthcare, does it even out?
KevDen2005
02-23-2018, 22:35
If they tax you to death by providing "affordable" healthcare, does it even out?
I think that was the goal so they can tax my wife for all the insurance money
You have to.admit that the Reps in Colorado have put out some real turds in the last few elections though..
Colorado still has a.huge independent voter base that could easily override the dems.
They should feel free to start anytime now . . .
KevDen2005
02-23-2018, 22:52
They should feel free to start anytime now . . .
They're waiting for the perfect time to strike.
If they tax you to death by providing "affordable" healthcare, does it even out?
That way we can all die healthy and they can harvest the organs to give to illegal aliens...
They should feel free to start anytime now . . .
Who was the last candidate? Tancredo? Even the Republicans couldn’t rally behind him.
KevDen2005
02-23-2018, 23:06
Who was the last candidate? Tancredo? Even the Republicans couldn’t rally behind him.
If memory serves correctly (and maybe I'm mistaken) wasn't it predicted if he didn't run the election would have gone to the republican and not the democrat?
Zundfolge
02-26-2018, 19:23
If memory serves correctly (and maybe I'm mistaken) wasn't it predicted if he didn't run the election would have gone to the republican and not the democrat?
No, Hickenlooper got more votes than Tancredo and the faux Republican Maes combined.
That way we can all die healthy and they can harvest the organs to give to illegal aliens...
......thus granting them automatic citizenship. Damn libs win again!
No, Hickenlooper got more votes than Tancredo and the faux Republican Maes combined.
Yeah, they were two horribly bad candidates.. of all the people in Colorado. the fact that Tancredo went on is own and split the vote further showed that Reps can’t agree on anything while Dems consistently fall behind their guy even if it’s not the guy they really wanted.
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