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Dems introduce bill banning assault weapons (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dems-introduce-bill-banning-assault-weapons/ar-BBJD8DK)
Reps. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) and Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) formally introduced a bill on Monday to ban assault weapons.
The legislation, called the "Assault Weapons Ban of 2018," was introduced less than two weeks after the mass shooting at a Parkland, Fla., high school that left 17 people dead. The gunman used an AR-15 assault rifle during the shooting, one of the many firearms that would be banned under the bill.
The legislation would make it "unlawful for a person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a semiautomatic assault weapon."
Deutch had promised (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/374996-florida-dem-vows-to-introduce-assault-weapons-ban-in-congress-next-week) to introduce such a ban during a CNN town hall event last week.
The new legislation is the latest attempt by Democrats to implement a ban on the guns since the Federal Assault Weapons ban expired in 2004.
The White House has already come out against (http://thehill.com/regulation/375369-seven-gun-control-measures-congress-could-consider-after-florida-shooting) such a ban, which is strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association (NRA).
"[President Trump] campaigned for president and was opposed to the assault weapons ban, and his position hasn't changed on that," a spokesman said.
Great-Kazoo
02-26-2018, 20:55
[ROFL3] [facepalm]............
Will1776
02-26-2018, 23:12
Will they ever stop proposing such a ridiculous piece of legislation? Even after Sandy Hook, I think it was 8 democrats voted against it in the Senate. That's saying something.
Boulder is in a worse state.. I know one of the council members and I emailed him asking him about the city council assault weapons ban floating in the rumor mill.. his response made it sound like it’s a done deal with his justification of how they think preemption doesn’t matter. His words were that some members are leaning towards an outright ban and confiscation/turn in vs some on the side of grandfathering along with registration. Basically all members were in accordance that something has to be done. He included some bullshit graph of how shootings have increased since the end of the awb ban. He didn’t say where he stood.. obviously he’s a fudd, I’ve gone shooting with him before. Fuck them.
What's the definition of the insanity? Oh yeah, its trying something like the AWB over again know it doesn't work. Hoping to get different results.
What's the definition of the insanity? Oh yeah, its trying something like the AWB over again know it doesn't work. Hoping to get different results.
They don't care about "results". It gives them control and that's the only result they're looking for.
Zundfolge
02-27-2018, 09:41
...a tale. Told by a couple of idiots, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
...a tale. Told by a couple of idiots, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
Were you born by C-section?
Shooter45
02-27-2018, 10:07
They just had this bill prewritten waiting for a chance to use it as always. Just a waste of time but it gets scary when you see how some Republicans are voting now.
What's the definition of the insanity? Oh yeah, its trying something like the AWB over again know it doesn't work. Hoping to get different results.
Define "work"
If the goal is to disarm the folks, then it works.
If the goal is to reduce crime/homicide, then it doesn't. But I think we know that's not the goal.
If works mean they won't get it passed then I guess I need my head checked because I remember 1994.
We've been yapping for generations and do nothing in response to this. We can't even Conservatives to vote and that seems to be the biggest threat we can bring to bear.
For Congress, losing your seat merely means you transition onto a board, media, or a lobbying firm. Some of those people don't even show up for work and just take a paycheck.
SouthPaw
02-27-2018, 17:36
Maybe it will stop things like this though?
https://www.greeleytribune.com/news/local/man-using-pressure-washer-believed-to-have-sparked-gunbarrel-gun-scare/
At about 8:20 a.m., a Boulder Prep High School administrator was walking to school when he saw a man behind a Subway near the school
Another argument for less administrators?
Another argument for less administrators?I'd support that.
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In a similar vein the republicans keep on proposing removing the restriction on CC holders carrying in schools. That never makes it out of committee either...why do Dems hate children so much?
In a similar vein the republicans keep on proposing removing the restriction on CC holders carrying in schools. That never makes it out of committee either...why do Dems hate live children so much?
FIFY
Because dead children are easier to manipulate.
Rucker61
02-28-2018, 07:48
They just had this bill prewritten waiting for a chance to use it as always. Just a waste of time but it gets scary when you see how some Republicans are voting now.
It's the same bill introduced in 2013, 2015 and 2017.
Great-Kazoo
02-28-2018, 07:54
It's the same bill introduced in 2013, 2015 and 2017.
Slightly OT
Keep up the good work. Your replies in the DP comments section has anti gun factions heads spinning. Attacking you on a personal level, never providing facts or rationale for their stance.
"assault WEAPON". Not "assault gun" or assault "firearm", so, if I assault you with a piece of corn on the cob, here comes the ban. If I assault you with a knife, here comes the ban. If I assault you with a golf club, (which happens more often than you would imagine), here comes the ban. If I assault you with a cucumber, here comes the ban. Need I go on? Baseball bats are by far more often used in assaults than guns. No ban? DON'T THEY EVEN CARE??? What about the children? If we can only one!
My member should be classified as an assault weapon.
Great-Kazoo
02-28-2018, 20:39
My member should be classified as an assault weapon.
Heard they let you go for lack of evidence
Same team. Stop tackling your own players.
TEXT HR5087 AUSSAULT WEAPONS BAN 2018 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5087/text)
BOLDED FOR EMPHASIS, AS IT RELATES TO PISTOLS:
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the “Assault Weapons Ban of 2018”.
SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.
(a) In General.—Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended—
(1) by inserting after paragraph (29) the following:
“(30) The term ‘semiautomatic pistol’ means any repeating pistol that—
“(A) utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and chamber the next round; and
“(B) requires a separate pull of the trigger to fire each cartridge.
......
“(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted:
......
“(C) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun.
“(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
“(i) A threaded barrel.
“(ii) A second pistol grip.
“(iii) A barrel shroud.
“(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
“(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
......
Want to shoot that pistol suppressed? Good luck...
ETA: Bolded last line. Was going to originally, and then immediate responses keyed on it. Applies to rifles, as well.
No bullpups, and no Glocks or Berettas either, depending on how they interpret "A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm."
The part about “a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm” could be a big deal. I mean just about any Glock could be considered a semiautomatic version of the Glock 18 if you really wanted to push the issue.
buffalobo
03-05-2018, 10:51
That barrel shroud sure sounds dangerous.
If you're unarmed, you are a victim
In relation to magazines:
“(37) The term ‘large capacity ammunition feeding device’—
“(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, including any such device joined or coupled with another in any manner, that has an overall capacity of, or that can be readily restored, changed, or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
“(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.”.
And storage requirements:
“(aa) Secure Storage Or Safety Device Requirement For Grandfathered Semiautomatic Assault Weapons.—It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer, to store or keep under the dominion or control of that person any grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapon that the person knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, will be accessible to an individual prohibited from receiving or possessing a firearm under subsection (g), (n), or (x), or any provision of State law, unless the grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapon is—
“(1) carried on the person, or within such close proximity that the person can readily retrieve and use the grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapon as if the grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapon were carried on the person; or
“(2) locked by a secure gun storage or safety device that the prohibited individual has no ability to access.”.
There's lots more, by I will leave the task of reading it to all of you who wish to...
buffalobo
03-05-2018, 11:03
Not interested in reading it. Don't think it will pass and won't comply if it does.
If you're unarmed, you are a victim
Zundfolge
03-05-2018, 11:47
(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
Excellent ... this eliminates all non-milspec AR15s from the ban as a "Commercial" AR is not a "semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm".
CoGirl303
03-05-2018, 12:13
so in essence, they want to create more Ruby Ridges...got it. [emoji19]
stupid libs. they just dont get it.
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so in essence, they want to create more Ruby Ridges...got it. [emoji19]
stupid libs. they just dont get it.
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Oh, they get it.
There is no accident in Libs pushing for political violence, censorship, all while disarming their political enemies.
Oh, they get it.
There is no accident in Libs pushing for political violence, censorship, all while disarming their political enemies.
They've been getting it since 1917.
Great-Kazoo
03-05-2018, 16:33
no pistols with threaded barrels. Guess they'll never hear me when i go to turn them in.
IMO this blows the NFA out of the water. IF everything gets banned, what's the difference between their semi auto version of what ever the emote de jour is then pistols with actual stocks. Sounds more like a .gov revenue generator for the ATF, than an actual ban.
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They've been getting it since 1917.
LIKE!
I think the boys were on the wrong continent about that time.
Rucker61
03-05-2018, 19:51
Slightly OT
Keep up the good work. Your replies in the DP comments section has anti gun factions heads spinning. Attacking you on a personal level, never providing facts or rationale for their stance.
It's a hard luck life.
no pistols with threaded barrels.
Yeah, I'm glad the tiny Walther P22 is locked up in the safe. Can't trust those things anywhere.
200 Year Old Mechanisms
“What we are witnessing is us losing. What we need to understand is: Why have the actions we have been taking failed? What we need to do is stop taking those actions, and implement and execute a new plan.
The old white guys way of doing things is not working, and it has not worked for a long time. The long term plans of communists and socialists IS working, and it has been for a long time. Yet, here I sit, having for a few decades written and spoken about the loss of the youth to those movements, about the loss of our education system to those ideologies, and now the future is here and we are seeing it as our children hit the streets by the thousands in defiance of us, our rules, our laws and our culture. Here I sit watching the leadership of the NRA and conservative groups kowtowing, folding, bending, and blurring our principles because they have no fucking idea what they are doing anymore. Time has rendered their paradigms irrelevant.
You can not battle this movement with a sudden defensive response. You are overwhelmed now. You waited too long. You have sat idly by living a reactionary life, only going into action when you felt an immediate threat, all the while ignoring the enemy infiltrating your mainframe, your social infrastructure, and seizing control of your children which has always been the means to seize control of the future. So many pay lip service to the cliches’ of self-defense, yet you lack the forward thinking preparation and defense of perimeter that is required through discipline and dedication. Now, you’re children are no longer your own.
Anyone who studies the work of Edward Bernays or Walter Lippmann knows that this is not a new or novel idea. This is a science. The science of perception management, the swaying of public opinion and the changing of a nation’s basic tenets without firing a shot. The leadership of the NRA is impotent, and selling us out because they are desperate and can not find their way any longer. The old white guys in Washington are no better. They do not represent us. They have failed to adapt to a changing world, and you have failed along with them.
I understand what you have tried to do. And, in many ways, it is noble. You have remained loyal to the non-aggression principle. You have relied on truth and law to replace your shield and sword. You have adhered to the basic belief that we all have the right to our opinions and that we should not fight unless we are attacked directly. But you failed to see the quiet enemy slithering into your own household. You failed to take serious the attack that was happening before your eyes.
This is not a war that you can fight using the 200 year old mechanisms of the old political process. You will lose. You are losing. The fight is happening in the minds of the people, and your children are being groomed as the highly mobile and useful tools of your opponents. If you want to win this war, you have to become just as cunning, just as crafty, just as deceptive for the greater good as they are. You are on a field of play but you are not adapting to the rules of play, and thus you are losing. Adapt. Grow. Become a movement that appeals to the emotions and needs of coming generations. Your enemy has done that quite brilliantly.
They appeal to emotions. They manipulate statistics to appeal to emotions. They attack the hearts and minds through emotional stimuli. They work to the need for identity, having destroyed traditional culture, they lead the culture-less into the fold of a cause, a sense of belonging where there was none. Righteous principle and rule of law dressed as a powder wigged old white guy will fall flaccid against such momentum. You lack emotion, you lack compassion, you lack a sense of greater good in the minds of today’s young people.
But none of this is true. It’s simply not true. Our tactical community holds the keys to this dilemma. We are inviting, and people of all races and genders and preferences are welcomed on our ranges and in our self-defense circles. We all have friends who are of various ethnicities, both men and women, gay, straight, trans, etc. If you act like a responsible and decent human being, then you are absolutely welcomed into the fold with no reservation. Our numbers include engineers, accountants, social workers, cops, civilians, military, academic teachers. The principles of self-defense, self-reliance and virtuous living are high in our community. We care about people, about our communities, about our country. Most of us will lay down our lives in defense of those things.
Yet you allow the enemy to create a narrative of you in the news that you are racist, homophobic gun toting maniacs with low education. They use their media outlets to promote you as all of the things that you are not. They find the derpiest assholes in the gun world and plaster them all over the news as the representation of who you are. The undisciplined militia types, the completely useless retired military Generals who can’t even hold and shoot a rifle properly, and the plain crazy people that just want to hurt people. They use their millions and millions of dollars that YOU have paid them for their movies and songs against you to poison the minds of your neighbors and your children with lies about you. Your leadership, the flaccid old white guys, have collected your millions of dollars in support while failing to adapt and respond to this because they are incapable of it.
It’s time to play the long game, folks. This is it. You are behind the curve and it may be too late for the foreseeable future. But it will be too late forever if you don’t get it together NOW. Study Bernays and Lippmann and Galula. Begin infiltration operations into the leadership of your organizations, your political parties, your community’s law enforcement agencies, and your schools. For the love of everything that is good, seize back control of our youth through our education system. And if you can’t do that, tear down that failed education system and replace it (it doesn’t prepare our youth for real life anyway, it only produces mere debt-enslaved voters).
Simply arguing on principle and rule of law is getting you cut down in the trenches. You are losing. Stop losing. Change your tactics. Adopt the tactics of the enemy. Adapt to the rules of the war you are in, not the one you think you should be in. Your arguments are tired: the second amendment, self-defense, semi-auto vs full auto definitions, arming teachers who are not equipped to fight in their minds…you are losing with these positions. Prayer is not coming back to schools, and in case you haven’t noticed no one cares that your right is in the Bill of Rights. You are not seizing the hearts and minds of the people and of the youth. Stop persisting with positions that lose. Adapt.
This is a war for hearts and minds. It is not a war for logical assertions, 200 year old laws and self-righteous principles. Make of yourself an appealing movement, offer kindness and strength, compassion and boundaries, inclusiveness and professionalism, emotional fulfillment and quiet resolve. There must be a balance. We are awesome people, the fabric of this nation. We are not hateful, racist, or exclusive. Now is the time to infiltrate. Now is the time to begin coups that will take a long time to see to fruition. What you are doing now, what your leadership is doing, is losing. Face that fact, and correct your course, or die. The choice is yours, and it is now.”
Reposted from here:
https://primaryandsecondary.com/200-year-old-mechanisms/
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Will1776
03-24-2018, 11:32
The 2018 AWB, just so everyone knows, WILL ban every single semi auto rifle unless it is specifically exempted in the bill. This is due to the way it defines a pistol grip as being “anything that can function as a grip”. That means that if your semi auto rifle has a grip or part that can function as a grip which every single one does it will be banned unless it’s specifically exempted like the Mini 14, 10/22, etc.
The definition of a pistol grip is critical in what is legal post AWB. It’s why featureless ARs are legal in CA but not CT. Surprised there isn’t more attention put on this aspect of the law.
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Bullshit. That's some liberal ass tactic there that if people aren't anti abortion, anti gay marriage, whatever, they are de facto anti gun. Or at least hurting it.
And that dance I did last night is why we have snow coming Monday.
This is what liberals do. Coming forth with ideas that you are either with us on every topic, or you are against us. We are better than that.
Bullshit. That's some liberal ass tactic there that if people aren't anti abortion, anti gay marriage, whatever, they are de facto anti gun. Or at least hurting it.
And that dance I did last night is why we have snow coming Monday.
This is what liberals do. Coming forth with ideas that you are either with us on every topic, or you are against us. We are better than that.
No, it comes from an informed historical perspective that when a people lose their way morally, they give up things they held near and dear to chase baser instincts. The Greeks, the Romans, The British Empire to name just three examples.
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It’s all tied together. Why do you think the Marxist left is Pro what they are pro, and anti what they are anti?
Pro Gay
Pro Abortion
Pro Public education
Pro Divorce
Pro Gender Equality, (an oxymoron if I ever heard one)
Pro sexual promiscuity and perversion of every stripe.
Anti Traditional family
Anti Life
Anti Homeschool and school choice
Anti Monogamy
Anti Biological facts
Anti Abstinence
This speaks to our cultural rot on the whole, and how most of us have focused on the current threat to what we consider the last bastion of freedom and liberty, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and ignored how we got to a point where ignorant masses of broken family, anti religious, indoctrinated citizens would scream for the removal of their birth right and scream for the inclusion of alien invaders in the same half century.
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Thumbs down.
What part?
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jhood001
03-25-2018, 00:27
Cute post and picture. Now let us get down to the real meat and potatoes of your post -
Pro Gay
Pro Abortion
Pro Public education
Pro Divorce
Pro Gender Equality, (an oxymoron if I ever heard one)
Pro sexual promiscuity and perversion of every stripe.
You're now king for a day... Or shit... Let's give you four full years.
How is your pro-freedom ass going to turn the above mentioned around?
With legislation?
I'm not into banging dudes, but if I were; I would go buy a gun because of people like you.
Some might say that your fondness for firearms is a 'perversion'. I certainly wouldn't because that would make me one of the biggest perverts on the planet (maybe we can hookup sometime and shoot some rounds together? But you know... in secret).
Where does your direction as to what is and what isn't a perversion come from?
Is it something outside of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? If the answer is 'yes'; I can think of another 'group' or 'religion' that thinks the same way you do.
Cute post and picture. Now let us get down to the real meat and potatoes of your post -
You're now king for a day... Or shit... Let's give you four full years.
How is your pro-freedom ass going to turn the above mentioned around?
With legislation?
I'm not into banging dudes, but if I were; I would go buy a gun because of people like you.
Some might say that your fondness for firearms is a 'perversion'. I certainly wouldn't because that would make me one of the biggest perverts on the planet (maybe we can hookup sometime and shoot some rounds together? But you know... in secret).
Where does your direction as to what is and what isn't a perversion come from?
Is it something outside of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? If the answer is 'yes'; I can think of another 'group' or 'religion' that thinks the same way you do.
Where do rights come from? Where do we find the distinction between right from wrong, good and evil? Is it in a law book written by men? Is our form of government good because we are great? Or are we great because we are good?
It took legislative action and court rulings to redefine our cultural and moral standards that had been held for thousands of years by people the world over.
You would buy a gun if you were gay because of people like me? When was the American holocaust of homosexuals? Where were the anti gay lynch mobs, the burning of the rainbow crosses? I guess I missed that part in History class. The family unit has been attacked from every angle by the Marxists for the last 150 years. Christians, at least none of the ones I know, advocate for violence against those that practice sexual perversion with other consenting adults.
I did not single out Homosexual behavior as the only Assault on the family. It was the open acceptance of it, the normalization of it that was specifically brought up. There are a whole host of other adult behaviors that are carried out in secret or openly that ought not to be mainstreamed, and little of it has anything to do with being homosexual.
If the Constitution and the bill of rights is our moral compass, our guide to life, then we are doomed even without the Marxist left. There are few statements as to what behaviors and actions should be legal or illegal in the Constitution, it is left to the People and the States to deteriorate that, you know the Righteous and Moral people that our form of government was made for. It is not enough to rap oneself up in the flag, and documents written by man for man.
The Bible is where I get my direction from in life, it is what guides me, and provides my moral code, like “True religion is this that a man love his neighbor as himself”, or “Let him without sin cast the first stone” and “Greater love hath no man, that a man lay down his life for his friends”
The Muslims do not believe what I believe, they are modern day sun worshippers following a child molesting Prophet and a false god they call Allah. While it’s easy for someone without faith to characterize all religions as equals, and to point out the flaws that exists in all systems, they are not the same. If you want proof, look at the countries in the world founded in Muslim law, vs. the US, founded on moral principles found in the Bible.
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When was the American Holocaust of any Americans? Hasn't happened, so I guess no reason to be so concerned with losing guns.
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It’s all tied together.
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It really is. And the older I get the more I see it, the less tolerance I have for it. I realize the foolishness of my youth and many of the things I thought.
Go back to the original Commie battle plans after WWII and check every item on the list (see "The Naked Communist"). Something had to be destroyed before the Boomers (first overtly immoral American generation) pushed the country off the cliff. What something could that be? Why was the welfare state built around this same time by Johnson? Why was the welfare based on want and not objective need? Why was it important that churches and fathers be replaced by gov? How did they use the tax code to create a tax status for churches and does the First Amendment actually allow this?
The moral badness was forced on the country during the timeframe. I think the authoritarian groundwork to implement was laid in the early 20th century.
If Conservatives has any sense there would be leaders talking about how to keep this from happening again. Secular subjective morality reverts to the mean you've illustrated. The pit stops are different, but the end is always the same.
When was the American Holocaust of any Americans? Hasn't happened, so I guess no reason to be so concerned with losing guns.
1973-?
Did you notice how Planned Parenthood is a #MarchForOurLies sponsor?
But I know abortion is a choice and would never be used as a weapon of genocide. Says so right in the Constitutional Amendment concerning abortion that resolves the inherent conflicts with the 5th and Fourteenth Amendments.
Besides if a people choose to murder their kids that's not really genocide. Simply creating the social, economic, and political conditions to de-incentivize having children isn't really genocide.
What explanation do some of you have for how we got to where we are in America today? The Marxist left, the blind followers in the middle, the depraved me first entertainment driven culture, the social media and technology addled and Socialist indoctrinated youth.
If it was not caused by cultural rot and moral decay, then what? Is it just bad Government policies? Bad politicians? Bad luck?
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Besides if a people choose to murder their kids that's not really genocide. Simply creating the social, economic, and political conditions to de-incentivize having children isn't really genocide.
Planned Parenthood came from the Eugenics movement. It's not something they like to advertise.
Planned Parenthood came from the Eugenics movement. It's not something they like to advertise.
Yup, if people only knew...
Great-Kazoo
03-25-2018, 17:34
What explanation do some of you have for how we got to where we are in America today?
If it was not caused by cultural rot and moral decay, then what? Is it just bad Government policies? Bad politicians? Bad luck?
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Yes it is......
Shitty , ineffective, spineless, afraid to counter them being called racist, Republican legislators . That's who i blame. Fuktards like McConnell should have been given the boot or tarred & feathered a long time ago.
FFS when there's someone like Jeb Bush who ran the platform of I'm the Nice Guy [ROFL2]. Honestly until they started mocking him for that platform. I didn't know he was even running for office.
Then there's the entire R party who instead of supporting Trump have been back stabbing him since he got the nomination. From the time of Clinton's administration up till now they share a major portion of the blame
Zundfolge
03-25-2018, 19:15
The Muslims do not believe what I believe, they are modern day sun worshippers following a child molesting Prophet and a false god they call Allah.
Moon god. Allah is a Bedouin moon god ... other than that 100% spot on.
If it was not caused by cultural rot and moral decay, then what? Is it just bad Government policies? Bad politicians? Bad luck?
Moral decay causes cultural decay which leads to bad government policies implemented by bad politicans. Luck doesn't exist.
Planned Parenthood came from the Eugenics movement. It's not something they like to advertise.
Yup, if people only knew...
I knew that too.
Yes it is......
Shitty , ineffective, spineless, afraid to counter them being called racist, Republican legislators . That's who i blame. Fuktards like McConnell should have been given the boot or tarred & feathered a long time ago.
FFS when there's someone like Jeb Bush who ran the platform of I'm the Nice Guy [ROFL2]. Honestly until they started mocking him for that platform. I didn't know he was even running for office.
Then there's the entire R party who instead of supporting Trump have been back stabbing him since he got the nomination. From the time of Clinton's administration up till now they share a major portion of the blame
Have to agree, the capitulation of the GOP to the communists. This started in the mid-80s when RR started to lose his touch and really started moving with Bush the Senior and his globalist pals. Bush the Younger pushed the accelerator to the floor and used our tax money to bail out financial institutions and businesses that should have been allowed to fail. The Messiah continued these failed policies and now we have 21T in debt and we're fighting the swamp.
Way OT -
As an aside, if homosexuality is so repulsive to God why did God allow the human mind to even give thought to homosexual behavior. God could have engineered the DNA strands to never combine in such a way to produce a homosexual human being.
Now someone may say "free will", God gave us free will but that still doesn't answer why the human being was designed to allow same-sex preference even if it is a choice and not a natural state.
Maybe God isn't is great as I think he is, or maybe God doesn't hate homosexuals with the same vigor as some humans obviously wish God did. I mean a human hated homosexuals enough to write it in the Bible and claim that hatred was God's word when it probably wasn't (based on the fact that homosexuality is probably as old as prostitution) which makes that human a liar and deceiver of men at least as far as God's attitude toward homosexuality goes.
Great-Kazoo
03-26-2018, 18:29
I knew that too.
Now ask on a left of center forum, what their opinion is of Margret Sanger. If there's a link between Hitlers Master race and what PP's founders put forth. Don't bother as that mentality would track you down , yelling through bullhorns you're the RACIST.
Now ask on a left of center forum, what their opinion is of Margret Sanger. If there's a link between Hitlers Master race and what PP's founders put forth. Don't bother as that mentality would track you down , yelling through bullhorns you're the RACIST.
She wanted PP in the black neighborhoods so she could kill them off.
We could ask them about Robert Byrd too, a klukker (D) POS.
You'd blow their minds if you told them the truth about hitler, hitler was a democrat too, just a nazi instead of communist.
jhood001
03-26-2018, 20:05
The Bible is where I get my direction from in life, it is what guides me, and provides my moral code, like “True religion is this that a man love his neighbor as himself”, or “Let him without sin cast the first stone” and “Greater love hath no man, that a man lay down his life for his friends”
Got it.
Follow all three when you're posting here.
This isn't a pulpit. It's a firearms forum.
Got it.
Follow all three when you're posting here.
This isn't a pulpit. It's a firearms forum.
Got it.
I strive to.
Not a preacher, I was answering a question about where I get my moral direction.
I thought this was the politics and legislation sub forum of said forum.
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Here is the list of communist co-sponsors - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5087/cosponsors
DeGette, Perlmutter, and Polis are included.
A snippet from Liberty's Torch - https://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/
Francis writes:
I keep coming back to the disclosure of Dr. Floyd Ferris:
"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against -- then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can be neither observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers -- and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with." [Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged]
The (D) seeks to load law after law upon us, stealing our innocence, making us criminals in every aspect of our lives, paving the way to the boxcar that takes us to the internment camp.
A quote attributed to one of Stalin's men goes like this - "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime". That is where the Democrats are heading and gun legislation isn't the only vehicle they'll use. Look at Masterpiece Bakery, they are prosecuting Jack because he is a Christian and chose to stand by his beliefs. The (D) prosecute you in the workplace with affirmative action which denies you the right to choose the best person for the job. I'm sure there are other examples.
The (D) are pushing for guns because after they get the guns NOTHING will stop them in their pursuit of the totalitarian government they seek. We make fun of this legislation and it probably won't pass but they'll be back to try again.
Singlestack
03-27-2018, 08:55
An snippet from Liberty's Torch - https://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/
Francis writes:
The (D) seeks to load law after law upon us, stealing our innocence, making us criminals in every aspect of our lives, paving the way to the boxcar that takes us to the internment camp.
A quote attributed to one of Stalin's men goes like this - "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime". We make fun of this legislation and it probably won't pass but they'll be back to try again.
Yup, Leon Trotsky, as I recall. One of my favorite presidents was "do nothing" Calvin Coolidge. Dems are all about endless legislation and rules they favor. We have all heard about the average law-abiding citizen probably violating dozens of laws they don't even know about, probably not counting removing the mattress tags. I think one of the best thing Trump has done is eliminating tons of regs/rules in the Federal Register - that crap just increases.
I have been thinking about the advantages the libs have worked for and accumulated over the years - packing the courts with extreme and leftist judges, taking control of all levels of public education, controlling the overwhelming bulk of the print and TV media, allowing corruption of our voting processes, and taking control of the internet and social media. Pretty darn overwhelming. When you couple that with the average American's apathy and easy-to-make emotional arguments vs more difficult fact-based arguments that our side tries to make, its a pretty difficult ship to get turned around. I don't believe my elected officials pay attention to my calls and letters, partially because they don't view me as their constituent, but also because I advocate for policies they have proven to not support. Not sure where things are headed, but it looks grim to me.
The D's cosponsor it like flies to trash. But that is so close its not even a metaphor anymore.
From the Raconteur Report - https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-gods-of-copybook-headings.html
Until you unplug succeeding generations from default auto-Leftardism, you aren't going to have anything to look forward to but terror and slaughter. You'll just keep feeding more of them to the volcano, and there'll be less of you.
From the comments:
Like so many things, Leftists have changed the meaning of the word "compromise". It used to mean "You get something you want, I get something I want, it's a win-win." Now it means "I get some of what I want, you get to keep what I didn't take, but I'll be back for it later." The cake analogy of gun control comes to mind.
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