Trump says he'd have attacked school shooter

[Zundfolge]

Liberals, of course, went apoplectic and mocked him mercilessly but the thing is he's done something similar in the past.

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[Gman]

Mugger attacks Joe Blow and he'll likely get away with it. Attack a Manhattan billionaire, and they will find you.

[Delfuego]

The only way trump would have entered that school is if his twitter account was being held hostage

[buffalobo]

Or maybe his hair stylist?

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[Great-Kazoo]

The guy's a moron who while breathing has done more to fuk with liberals and D's worldwide, than any other person. Keep on going donnie.

[fitz19d]

The guy's a moron who while breathing has done more to fuk with liberals and D's worldwide, than any other person. Keep on going donnie.

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Curse you tiny attachments folk have to click on.

[fitz19d]

The guy's a moron who while breathing has done more to fuk with liberals and D's worldwide, than any other person. Keep on going donnie.


Spicy meme kidding aside. Not only has he made libs go apoplectic which is good in that it brings some of the hidden more extremists views to light for the more independant neutral people to realize the depths of leftist evils...... He's also done tons to shit on and disrupt establishment globalist garbage republicans like Paul Ryan. I wish he could force Mccain to change to his real party affiliation.

It's disgusting that senate/house republicans voted more for the immigration bill last week that was basically giving the left everything for nothing, than the other bill which was the allow some in for actual various merit based requirements/clean records/etc paired with border/wall funds.

[Zundfolge]

He pisses off the right (left) people so I like him.

That said, his comments about attacking the school shooter taken in context are much less dumb bravado than they've been made out to be (he basically said everyone in the room where he was giving the speech would have done better than the cowards of Broward County SD did).


The fundamental problem with conservatives in general is that they've spent the last 30+ years looking for some sort of messiah that was equal parts Ronald Reagan and William F Buckley and have ended up empowering well spoken cucks in nice suits because they don't like loud, brash assholes that could actually get something done.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I am by no means a fan of Trump's but he's no moron. He has a hugely inflated opinion of himself which is what both gives him the confidence and bravado to confront what he perceives to be evil or wrongdoing fearlessly but it's also (IMO) what drives his need to exaggerate and make himself out to be #1 in everything, to inflate his own deeds even when they are substantial even without exaggerating.
I fully believe Trump probably would have gone in after the shooter because he believes he is invincible and nearly invulnerable. He's gotten where he has in part because everyone else keeps mistaking his braggadocio for stupidity and assumes he's just being vacuous and over-the-top when he says something.

[Irving]

Watch where you're posting that drivel, liberal.

[dan512]

Foxtrot, good post. I am always wary (or just outright dismissive) of anyone who cannot name a flaw in "their guy" or a good point in "the other guy."

Back on topic: there are two kinds of people, those that will run towards the sound of gunshots and those that run away. I know two or maybe three guys I know for certain are in the former... but I know a lot of people.

I look at Trump and I do not see a fighter. Petulant sure, vindictive absolutely, but no meat eater there.

[Great-Kazoo]

Not exactly in response to this topic per se.... but...

Sometimes I find the pro-trump dissonance to be as amusing as I did the pro-obama at the time. To both parties, there can be no legitimate flaw to "their" guy, and no real wrong.

It's kind of like how peoples 30 year stoner/child living in their basement still makes them "proud" and can do no wrong, lauding their intelligence and how every attribute of theirs is a positive one. "He's staying home to take care of us, blah blah blah". Everything can be made to have a positive spin, no matter how screwy.

Sure, some of his policies have been beneficial and he is undoubtedly better than Hillary. However, can we stop pretending like he's a miracle cure? There's an extreme probability that because of Trump, the dems can run LITERALLY anyone next cycle and they will get elected.

And lets stop pretending that tweets of a twelve year old child are good, in any fashion, mmkay. "It's so intelligent because it pisses liberals off". Uh, no. It's amateurish, makes us look abso-fucking-ridiculous on the international stage, and harms our credibility in more than one way. It would be one thing if he had any elegance and actually followed through with his threats. But, no, he calls out and insults random-fucking Americans just because his fragile, cluster-b ego cannot handle ANY CRITICISM, even from the lowliest of person. The world is a big place, and you can rationalize this child to yourself all you want, but no, there is zero benefit to that crap.

Now, he has his pros. But this man is no savior. I wish people would stop treating him like he's their 30yo kid living in the basement. Undoubtedly, he will get my vote next election when he runs against the transexual-half-mexican-half arabic-half asian-giant-midget-socialist-communist-woman identifying-illegal immigrant that he is opposed by; but the other guy/woman will win in the end. And the only positive rationalization I can come up with at that point is "at least the checked all the "high time" boxes in one go".

WOW.. never imagined i could agree with everything you, or what anyone wrote in a single post. But i do.


Major LIKE +1

[Bailey Guns]

If the media didn't make a big deal of his tweets I'd never know they existed. I don't care about that. And, even though it's sometimes embarrassing, I find his approach to politics to be refreshing. He doesn't talk like a politician...he uses plain language that the everyday Joe can relate to.

I don't care about his bravado or lack of it. I voted for him to kick in political doors...not real doors with bad guys on the other side. There are others to do that. I care about his accomplishments. So far, in terms of what he's actually done, I'm happy. I don't agree with his bump stock proposals and some of his DACA bullshit. I can overlook his personal, irritating character habits as long as he keeps doing good things for the economy, the military and the country in general.

I will also say (and this is just an observation, not an endorsement) he has weathered an unprecedented level of attacks, against himself personally, his family and against his presidency, by the left and the right. They have been vicious and continuous and we haven't seen anything like it in probably 75 years. Joe McCarthy is the only guy that may come close...and he was right about almost everyone he was accused of. He just came across as an asshole. For the most part Trump has overcome the attacks from all sides without altering course and continues to push forward.

[Great-Kazoo]

I will also say (and this is just an observation, not an endorsement) he has weathered an unprecedented level of attacks, against himself personally, his family and against his presidency, by the left and the right. They have been vicious and continuous and we haven't seen anything like it in probably 75 years. Joe McCarthy is the only guy that may come close...and he was right about almost everyone he was accused of. He just came across as an asshole. For the most part Trump has overcome the attacks from all sides without altering course and continues to push forward.


He's been attacked from day 1 due to him not being an insider, lifer politician. The R party had shitty candidates, which has been their MO since Clinton. Had they actually had a serious challenger to the D side then maybe someone else would be president.

But they didn't and it's beyond time they put aside their butt hurt and FOCUS on running the country. Not ruining it along with those flag burning, freedom hating, leftist

Perhaps they should follow that saying, Elections Have Consequences. Step up, support Trump, and keep the left out of power.

[Joe_K]

However, can we stop pretending like he's a miracle cure? There's an extreme probability that because of Trump, the dems can run LITERALLY anyone next cycle and they will get elected

The only part I disagree with in your post Foxtrot is the above. I honestly believe no matter if it was Rand Paul, Jelly Belly - Jeb Bush, Classless Kasich, Cruz, or Rubbery Rubio, the Leftist Media would have the idiots in this country, (the majority are in fact idiots),believing they hadn’t won the election fair and square, their family history would be blasted, they would be equated with Hitler, and Global warming. Dead kids, War and famine, racism, and cold dinners, and spilled hot coffee would all be their fault. So I think next election the Dims could put Joe Biden’s blind, one legged midget half nephew as their candidate and they will win regardless of which R won.

[BushMasterBoy]

I think he would have run in and tackled the shooter.

[buffalobo]

Foxtrot, good post. I am always wary (or just outright dismissive) of anyone who cannot name a flaw in "their guy" or a good point in "the other guy."

Back on topic: there are two kinds of people, those that will run towards the sound of gunshots and those that run away. I know two or maybe three guys I know for certain are in the former... but I know a lot of people.

I look at Trump and I do not see a fighter. Petulant sure, vindictive absolutely, but no meat eater there.What would be a good point "in the other guy" from last election? I sure as hell can't find one. I can point out plenty of Trump flaws but can find no good whatsoever of any kind in "the other guy".

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[Gman]

The people are getting tired of the establishment candidates on both sides. The challenger on the D side was stopped because Hillary had completely bought control of their system for determining the party candidate. On the R side, Trump completely steamrolled an impotent organization that gives us RINOs and tired candidates because 'it's their turn' (remember Bob Dole? Great man, not a great presidential candidate).

If Trump continues to get the economy humming, voters can manage to overlook the things they don't like about him. I do appreciate him exposing the media bias. I don't care for his sometimes juvenile Tweets, but I also think he knows how to get what he wants by triggering his opposition.

[Irving]

What would be a good point "in the other guy" from last election? I sure as hell can't find one. I can point out plenty of Trump flaws but can find no good whatsoever of any kind in "the other guy".


There was something he was doing to encourage people to buy houses that really helped me when we bought our first house. I don't even remember what it was (I think a rebate of some sort) and I think it could have been argued as a bad idea as far as encouraging people who couldn't really afford to buy a house to take out a mortgage (a la 2008 collapse) but it was still a good deal and I still took advantage of it.

[buffalobo]

There was something he was doing to encourage people to buy houses that really helped me when we bought our first house. I don't even remember what it was (I think a rebate of some sort) and I think it could have been argued as a bad idea as far as encouraging people who couldn't really afford to buy a house to take out a mortgage (a la 2008 collapse) but it was still a good deal and I still took advantage of it.

Wasn't last election Trump v Hitlery?

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[Irving]

Oh a good point for Hillary? Without taking a few hours to think about it, I would offer a snarky remark along the lines of increased pantsuit sales.
Honestly, it's a lot more tough to find good points for someone who never made it into office to actually accomplish anything.

[Skip]

The people are getting tired of the establishment candidates on both sides. The challenger on the D side was stopped because Hillary had completely bought control of their system for determining the party candidate. On the R side, Trump completely steamrolled an impotent organization that gives us RINOs and tired candidates because 'it's their turn' (remember Bob Dole? Great man, not a great presidential candidate).

If Trump continues to get the economy humming, voters can manage to overlook the things they don't like about him. I do appreciate him exposing the media bias. I don't care for his sometimes juvenile Tweets, but I also think he knows how to get what he wants by triggering his opposition.

And by steamrolling he demonstrated he was going to fight and not be a "good loser" (controlled opposition). People actually like those tweets even if they didn't always agree with the content.

As I keep saying... Results matter. If Trump implements any new gun control he is a one termer. If this was a careful calculation with offsetting support for breaking his base, maybe he would be playing that 4D chess. Gun control won't win him any support from Libs who want him dead. Not even a "thank you." But it will cost him dearly.

This betrayal won't be overlooked or forgotten. It has been damn hard to be a Trump supporter and stand up to Libs. Many of us have lost friends, had difficulties with family, and troubles at work too. All with 95% neg media coverage. Every day being told you were an idiot for voting for Trump. It took that amount of strength for him to win.

If he stabs us in the back, he's done saving any major bombshell that is worse than this. I think the smart people in the WH have done this math.

[Gman]

Many of us have lost friends, had difficulties with family, and troubles at work too. All with 95% neg media coverage.
There's a reason that you don't discuss politics or religion. If you're discussing politics at work, you had better know your audience. I have co-workers that hunt and we've discussed firearms. They even come to me when they're considering a CCW purchase to discuss (which we do discretely). I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.

Politics is a strategic game. If you ever watched Ron Paul you'd get it. Trump seems willing, but knows it won't happen.

[hurley842002]

There's a reason that you don't discuss politics or religion. If you're discussing politics at work, you had better know your audience. I have co-workers that hunt and we've discussed firearms. They even come to me when they're considering a CCW purchase to discuss (which we do discretely). I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.Good post, I agree.

[buffalobo]

Oh a good point for Hillary? Without taking a few hours to think about it, I would offer a snarky remark along the lines of increased pantsuit sales.
Honestly, it's a lot more tough to find good points for someone who never made it into office to actually accomplish anything.You think there would be good points if she got into office? If there were it would be accidental and far outweighed by the horrible points.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[buffalobo]

You got to hand it to Obama... he did some phenomenally good unintentional work in the field of gun sales and firearm rights. [Coffee]True dat.

But terribly outweighed by the bad.

The best thing he did was turn Mrs bo away from Dem party, only small draw back is she is "Huuuuuge" Trump supporter.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[Skip]

There's a reason that you don't discuss politics or religion. If you're discussing politics at work, you had better know your audience. I have co-workers that hunt and we've discussed firearms. They even come to me when they're considering a CCW purchase to discuss (which we do discretely). I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.

Politics is a strategic game. If you ever watched Ron Paul you'd get it. Trump seems willing, but knows it won't happen.

They bring it up with you and will even corner you in your own cube as you're trying to work. They've been told to get in everyone's face. They will even coordinate trips to HR.

Or you get called into a team meeting and the leader tells a joke about Conservatives or Christians. You're in the minority of people who aren't laughing.

[Gman]

They bring it up with you and will even corner you in your own cube as you're trying to work. They've been told to get in everyone's face. They will even coordinate trips to HR.

Or you get called into a team meeting and the leader tells a joke about Conservatives or Christians. You're in the minority of people who aren't laughing.
Sounds like a pretty crappy place to work. Maybe they don't have enough work to keep them focused on the business?

If they got in my face, they'd get a "That's my business and mine alone."

[Irving]

I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.


I believe the correct phrase you're looking for is this one that I just made up: "I can count the number of people on one shop teacher's hand."


You think there would be good points if she got into office? If there were it would be accidental and far outweighed by the horrible points.


No, I'm saying it'd be difficult to point out something good, since nothing ever happened. I knew I wasn't going to vote for Hillary, so I never spent any time trying to look for any good. If I had basic reading comprehension and realized you were talking about the last election, and not the last administration, I wouldn't have said anything since I'm in agreement with your opinion about the last election.


They bring it up with you and will even corner you in your own cube as you're trying to work. They've been told to get in everyone's face. They will even coordinate trips to HR.

Or you get called into a team meeting and the leader tells a joke about Conservatives or Christians. You're in the minority of people who aren't laughing.

Like when you're in the HR mandated (to all employees) sensitivity class and everyone just laughs and laughs about the white male support group that the company felt like it needed to create.

[Skip]

Sounds like a pretty crappy place to work. Maybe they don't have enough work to keep them focused on the business?

There are many employees who are marginal producers with value measured by PC politics and not work performed. These are the people who will initiate a conversation with you, claim you said something you didn't, and then attempt to get you fired. HR will go full CSI on the allegation against you and never ask why that person has so much time on his hands.

If you're just there to work you aren't going to HR. But they do. How does that look? And HR often agrees with their politics. They don't view a Conservative as simply having a different opinion anymore but as a racist/homophobe/etc/etc/etc. So a HR specialist believes she is sitting down with a racist. You're guilty before the meeting starts.

I have witnessed this at multiple companies. I work in private sector tech. This is the culture, not just one place to work.

Managers will often move them after they get sick of the drama because they can't be fired. And the drama isn't just limited to politics either. If one is female and asks you to go out on a date, you can be ruined no matter what you say/do.

This is something that belongs in a few threads right now...

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Do you know why I believe this anon post has some truth to it? Because I've seen how these people think and what they believe. There is no objective moral "stop" that tells these people it is wrong to get someone fired because of their beliefs. There is no limit on the lies they will tell or the shameless way they will collaborate for the cause.

You and I wouldn't dare treat someone this way. We would just think "well he has a right to his opinion" and "America is a free country."

[Skip]

[snip]

Like when you're in the HR mandated (to all employees) sensitivity class and everyone just laughs and laughs about the white male support group that the company felt like it needed to create.

[LOL]

[Gman]

I believe the correct phrase you're looking for is this one that I just made up: "I can count the number of people on one shop teacher's hand."
Perfect! I laughed out loud at that one. I still remember my 9th grade shop teacher, Mr. Swint. He had all of his digits, was quite the character, and boy did he have some stories.

"I had this guy that pushed a piece of work through the band saw and cut into his thumb. I asked him what happened, and he started to show me how he did it, and the stupid son of a bitch did it again!"

I also can identify with the "sensitivity training". I had to do that at a past employer and I never saw so many stereotypes and assumptions being reinforced in my life.

There aren't that many "marginal producers" where I work, so I can't relate.

[Singlestack]

I'm so glad to be self employed and an army of 1. When you work for a bigger company (been there, done that) and have to sit in a cube/office all day especially where the workforce is considerably younger and has more than a few females, it is easy for an over 50 white guy to have a stigma without saying or doing anything. Even though I keep my politics out of work, I wouldn't survive more than a month at a place like Google. From what I can tell, more and more workplaces are becoming more and more outwardly conservative-hostile. Any yes, as someone earlier noted, the overwhelming majority of HR people are at least left-leaning if not far left.

With respect to Trump, I didn't vote for him in the primary (Cruz), but I like most of what he has done. He does say lots of stupid stuff, but I really don't care as long as he does the right things. For most of my life, conservative politicians say the right things but don't do as they say. I can certainly handle the opposite. I truly do like how he gets under libs skins. Some of them folks gonna have coronaries if they keep that up.

[Bailey Guns]

I have never had any of that "sensitivity" bullshit training with the company I work for. I probably wouldn't work here if I had to endure that. As it is, I don't work with anyone. Nearest boss is 100+ miles away. My "corporate HQ" is a Tuff Shed and the employee lounge is a Porta Pot. The only computer I have is the handheld I use for deliveries. It's an absolutely perfect fit for me.

ETA: Back to Trump...I am tiring of his public attacks on Jeff Sessions. If Sessions isn't performing up to par, fire him and find someone else. But STFU about it on Twitter.

[BushMasterBoy]

Twitter is NOT a presidential outlet for expressing policy. Twitter is internet graffiti. An eagle does not twitter...

Definitions

verb

give a call consisting of repeated light tremulous sounds.

noun

a series of short, high-pitched calls or sounds.

[hurley842002]

Twitter is NOT a presidential outlet for expressing policy. Twitter is internet graffiti. An eagle does not twitter...

Definitions

verb

give a call consisting of repeated light tremulous sounds.

noun

a series of short, high-pitched calls or sounds.I'm not saying I agree with all of the content Trump puts on Twitter (not saying I don't agree with it either for that matter), but where else is Trump supposed to reach the masses? With all the attacks and extreme bias with the media, Trump doesn't really have any other choice.

ETA: I'm not one of the folks that thinks Trump can do no wrong, I like things he's done, and I dislike things he has done. Trump won't make everyone happy, including myself, but I'll take him all day long over #imwithher

[MrPrena]

In WWE/WWF, he can beat up anyone including CEO of WWE Vince.
:D


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[BushMasterBoy]

Trump has his own website, he doesn't ride the bus to the Capitol. He sure as hell doesn't fly commercial. Oh yeah I forgot, Hope Hicks, White House Communications deputy director just resigned. Maybe I am just old fashioned about protocol.

www.whitehouse.gov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Hicks