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def90
03-02-2018, 14:55
REI announced that they are not placing any orders with Vista Outdoors, the parent company of Camelbak, Giro, Bell, Camp Chef, Blackburn and also Savage Arms.

REI Statement:
:“We believe that it is the job of companies that manufacture and sell guns and ammunition to work towards common sense solutions that prevent the type of violence that happened in Florida last month. In the last few days, we’ve seen such action from companies like Dick’s Sporting Goods and Walmart and we applaud their leadership,” REI said in statement.

“This morning we learned that Vista does not plan to make a public statement that outlines a clear plan of action. As a result, we have decided to place a hold on future orders of products that Vista sells through REI while we assess how Vista proceeds. Companies are showing they can contribute if they are willing to lead. We encourage Vista to do just that.” "

http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/rei-...ance/709404032 (http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/rei-halts-camelbak-giro-brands-after-parent-company-fails-to-take-gun-stance/709404032)

I called and cancelled my membership with them and let them know that I don't need other people or companies to decide for me what I should or should not be able to purchase or use. I encourage anyone else that enjoys firearms and the outdoors and has an REI membership to do so as well. The operator acknowledged that they are tracking this so I must not be the only one.

CS1983
03-02-2018, 15:03
Why is the responsibility on companies to do anything to harm their brand when they are operating in accordance with the law?

How about, oh, I dunno, they do a tax strike against the .gov to force legislators to change, if they want a law or otherwise legal standing to affect their progressive stupidity? Is it cus they don't actually want to put skin in the game, and thus don't actually want to take a stand, and thus their opinion is, in fact, complete bullshit?

Bailey Guns
03-02-2018, 15:45
Fuck 'em. I don't buy their overpriced crap anyway. My wife has one of their reward Visa cards (I think...some rewards card thru REI) and can't use it here because there's no REI anywhere close. I'll talk her into cancelling it and telling them this is why. REI won't care...but I will.

Aloha_Shooter
03-02-2018, 16:08
REI has always been a company that caters to granolas and treehuggers but this is more of the Left trying the tactics they attributed to Joe McCarthy. They've lost the arguments based on facts and logic, they've lost the political contests due to running treasonous and pathetically blatant liars like Hillary so now they are exercising the two areas they are supreme at: feelings and distorting the facts (aka lying).

BushMasterBoy
03-02-2018, 16:20
REI= Rear Echelon Idiots

Aloha_Shooter
03-02-2018, 16:23
I just sent them this:


I heard today that REI issued some kind of statement about not placing orders with Vista Outdoors, apparently based on the disinformation being passed by extremists in the Democratic Party and others who seem to prefer tyrannical Socialist governments like that of the late Hugo Chavez over the republic envisioned by our Founding Fathers with rights guaranteed by the Constitution and 25 of its 27 amendments.

Not only is REI being shortsighted and practicing guilt-by-association in that Vista is a parent company with sub-companies producing some of the finest and most economical outdoor gear in the world but I am offended by their public statement which cites falsehoods like the idea that gun or ammunition companies had any responsibility for the actions of a crazed lunatic who was reported to law enforcement as a danger to the community for YEARS.

You can place a hold on future orders with Vista while you assess how Vista proceeds. I am placing a hold on future orders with REI while I assess how REI proceeds. Your mission is supposed to be hooking me and other consumers up with excellent outdoor gear and experiences at beneficial prices, NOT selling me anti-gun disinformation or limiting my choices based on what George Soros or other extremists want to portray as "virtuous". Ultimately, I may just cancel my membership with REI and apply my trade with Sportsmans Warehouse or another company that isn't virtue signalling or blatantly out of touch with reality.

APEXgunparts
03-02-2018, 17:18
REI has been actively anti-gun since at least the mid 1990's.
They used to talk in their print adverts about the donations they made to anti-gun organizations.
I have never entered one of their stores and back in the 1990's one of my Soldiers sold off his stock shares when he learned of their anti-gun policies.

Richard

Shooter45
03-02-2018, 17:31
While I think REI carries very good products, they are out of my price range and it always comes across as a granola eating hippy supporting business. The last purchase I made from them was over 15 years ago and I don't plan to ever do business with them again.

Ah Pook
03-02-2018, 17:44
Been a member since they were a mail order coop. Mail order was the only way to get climbing equipment, in OH, in the '80s. Can't say I've bought anything from them in a while. I only go the the store in Denver to look at the building.

That's a list of popular companies. Le't hope it backfires on them.

JohnnyDrama
03-02-2018, 17:55
There was a time, probably 10-12 years ago, I liked REI. At this point, it's been a long time since I bought anything from them. Not really a conscience choice, just that their product lines/styles have changed and their prices have gone way up. They wont miss my business, but now I have a reason to avoid them.

Grant H.
03-02-2018, 18:02
While this sucks, REI won't lose too many people over this.

Their prices are sometimes inflated, but often not that far from the market, and their warranty is damn near unbeatable.

I bought a GPS from them, a Garmin handheld, and when it failed 2.5 years later, they gave me full purchase price in credit towards a new model. I didn't have the receipt, the box, or any of the documentation, but they took it and gave me the credit.

I haven't shopped there in a while anyway, but this stunt will make it an active decision going forward.

kpp80202
03-02-2018, 19:01
I like REI, but this pisses me off. I don’t shop there except for sales, but I think I’ll rethink that, too.

CoGirl303
03-02-2018, 19:08
I will not be shopping there any more. I have a membership and have bought several packs, hiking boots (all that were returned due to foot problems and comfort problems). A better place to spend your money is the Wilderness Exchange just down the street from them. They have used gear for consignment prices too.

I don't understand how a "co-op" makes this decision without first consulting the people who actually own the store...their customer base. But I guess they forget that without hunters and guns 80% of all the outdoors funding goes away.

Irving
03-02-2018, 19:12
All these stores are making me nervous that the stores that matter to me will do something dumb. Total Beverage, Home Depot, Rock Auto, Safeway, and Advance Auto Parts.

CoGirl303
03-02-2018, 19:20
I'm just trying to figure out how to rent a car anymore? National, Alamo, Budget, Enterprise and Hertz are all on the anti-gun bandwagon...where the heck do you rent a car if you need one and you don't wish to support that nonsense?

Ridge
03-02-2018, 19:22
REI has always been a company that caters to granolas and treehuggers but this is more of the Left trying the tactics they attributed to Joe McCarthy. They've lost the arguments based on facts and logic, they've lost the political contests due to running treasonous and pathetically blatant liars like Hillary so now they are exercising the two areas they are supreme at: feelings and distorting the facts (aka lying).

Exactly. They never sold guns before, but this will get them brownie points with the leftists who make up the vast majority of their customer base.


I'm just trying to figure out how to rent a car anymore? National, Alamo, Budget, Enterprise and Hertz are all on the anti-gun bandwagon...where the heck do you rent a car if you need one and you don't wish to support that nonsense?

Turo

20X11
03-02-2018, 19:34
Fuck REI... I'll never darken their doors agsin

Irving
03-02-2018, 19:44
I'm just trying to figure out how to rent a car anymore? National, Alamo, Budget, Enterprise and Hertz are all on the anti-gun bandwagon...where the heck do you rent a car if you need one and you don't wish to support that nonsense?

There is a place in Denver called UglyVans or something. Friend rented one for a Bachelor party once.

Great-Kazoo
03-02-2018, 21:07
I'm just trying to figure out how to rent a car anymore? National, Alamo, Budget, Enterprise and Hertz are all on the anti-gun bandwagon...where the heck do you rent a car if you need one and you don't wish to support that nonsense?

I've read (Online) a slide hammer works.

Aloha_Shooter
03-02-2018, 22:58
I'm just trying to figure out how to rent a car anymore? National, Alamo, Budget, Enterprise and Hertz are all on the anti-gun bandwagon...where the heck do you rent a car if you need one and you don't wish to support that nonsense?

Depends where you are. Some airports have Thrifty. I'd stay away from Fox.

brutal
03-02-2018, 23:00
I'm just trying to figure out how to rent a car anymore? National, Alamo, Budget, Enterprise and Hertz are all on the anti-gun bandwagon...where the heck do you rent a car if you need one and you don't wish to support that nonsense?

Whatever you do don't ever, ever, ever even think about renting a car from Payless. Despicable company. Plus, they are actually owned by Avis/Budget group and Avis/Budget refuses to slap them upside the head regarding their deceitful and immoral business practices.

Me? I have no choice but to rent from Avis/Budget due to corporate policy. Unfortunately, I still need a jerb. that said, it's not like I was using the NRA discount anyway so meh.

brutal
03-02-2018, 23:01
Depends where you are. Some airports have Thrifty. I'd stay away from Fox.

And Payless. Terrible, terrible, evil company.

BushMasterBoy
03-02-2018, 23:16
Rented a truck from Avis/Budget for a move 2 months ago. One front tire was 25 lbs low. Engine oil was 2.5 quarts low on a 7 quart system. Scumbags didn't even offer a discount. Used it for a 350 mile trip, company set us up to fail. Inspect any rental vehicle carefully. This was from Pueblo...

CoGirl303
03-03-2018, 08:31
Rented a truck from Avis/Budget for a move 2 months ago. One front tire was 25 lbs low. Engine oil was 2.5 quarts low on a 7 quart system. Scumbags didn't even offer a discount. Used it for a 350 mile trip, company set us up to fail. Inspect any rental vehicle carefully. This was from Pueblo...

Penske is the way to go. Always top notch. Then Ryder, then Uhaul if you must.


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Gman
03-03-2018, 10:32
Penske is the way to go. Always top notch. Then Ryder, then Uhaul if you must.
Ryder TRS is no more. They were bought by Budget about 20 years ago. Budget to Acquire Ryder TRS For $300 Million in Stock, Cash (https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB88897753683728500)

I got out just before the acquisition.

CoGirl303
03-03-2018, 10:50
ugh. did not know that.


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Rooskibar03
03-03-2018, 11:12
REI = Really Expensive Inventory.

ChadAmberg
03-03-2018, 17:33
This is where you go into REI, look around, check things out, say "Oh yeah this item is awesome!"

And then in front of the employees whip out your phone and buy it off Amazon.

BPTactical
03-04-2018, 00:00
This is where you go into REI, look around, check things out, say "Oh yeah this item is awesome!"

And then in front of the employees whip out your phone and buy it off Amazon.

No - here is what you do:
Go in, select the most expensive Mtn Bike, tent, pack, sleeping bag, cookset, accessories, etc try on some pricy boots and clothes and tell them you will take it all. Get a couple of associates to get all the shit to the checkout.
Ask for the manager and when he/she shows up tell them: "I would like to purchase all of this today, but unfortunately due to your stance with Vista outdoors which is clearly an anti 2A stance, I shall be taking my business elsewhere to an establishment that does not inject partisan politics into their business model."

Walk out leaving a $20,000.00 pile of merchandise at the register.

Do the same thing at Dicks

Great-Kazoo
03-04-2018, 00:07
No - here is what you do:
Go in, select the most expensive Mtn Bike, tent, pack, sleeping bag, cookset, accessories, etc try on some pricy boots and clothes and tell them you will take it all. Get a couple of associates to get all the shit to the checkout.
Ask for the manager and when he/she shows up tell them: "I would like to purchase all of this today, but unfortunately due to your stance with Vista outdoors which is clearly an anti 2A stance, I shall be taking my business elsewhere to an establishment that does not inject partisan politics into their business model."

Walk out leaving a $20,000.00 pile of merchandise at the register.

Do the same thing at Dicks


Or..
you have them ring it up , open your wallet pull out a credit card then go. Oh shit i just realized you're not accepting the NRA credit Card, sorry. But i'd keep it at the $4-5K level.

Even better have your spouse outside, you text her with I'm at the cash register, call me back. Quick conversation so they can hear you say.
Where? I'm at REI, (or dicks) why? Oh no shit you serious. I'll call you back. Then tell the cashier. You know i have to decline what i just had you ring up. Why is that (sir, madam), etc? Just found out you no longer accept the NRA Credit card or anything NRA related. Then.... walk out.

That's Voting with your Wallet.

See you at REI monday, BP?

OtterbatHellcat
03-04-2018, 00:10
Definition of.... Nice Touch.

def90
03-04-2018, 08:42
Or..
you have them ring it up , open your wallet pull out a credit card then go. Oh shit i just realized you're not accepting the NRA credit Card, sorry. But i'd keep it at the $4-5K level.

Even better have your spouse outside, you text her with I'm at the cash register, call me back. Quick conversation so they can hear you say.
Where? I'm at REI, (or dicks) why? Oh no shit you serious. I'll call you back. Then tell the cashier. You know i have to decline what i just had you ring up. Why is that (sir, madam), etc? Just found out you no longer accept the NRA Credit card or anything NRA related. Then.... walk out.

That's Voting with your Wallet.

See you at REI monday, BP?

The NRA Credit Card doesn’t exist anymore.. ;)

Gman
03-04-2018, 09:01
I believe the agreement isn't being renewed, but I haven't heard anything about the cards all being cancelled.

Zundfolge
03-04-2018, 09:30
Finding out REI is anti gun made me think of this meme:

73689

def90
03-04-2018, 12:48
I believe the agreement isn't being renewed, but I haven't heard anything about the cards all being cancelled.

Sure, the credit card company will continue to let you use your card but the NRA won't be getting their benefit when you use it.

Gman
03-04-2018, 13:11
Sure, the credit card company will continue to let you use your card but the NRA won't be getting their benefit when you use it.
That would be defined under the contract terms between the issuing bank and the NRA. Breaking the agreement could be financially damaging for the bank.

UrbanWolf
03-06-2018, 12:57
I will not be shopping there any more. I have a membership and have bought several packs, hiking boots (all that were returned due to foot problems and comfort problems). A better place to spend your money is the Wilderness Exchange just down the street from them. They have used gear for consignment prices too.

I don't understand how a "co-op" makes this decision without first consulting the people who actually own the store...their customer base. But I guess they forget that without hunters and guns 80% of all the outdoors funding goes away.

Looking at their choice of staff and usual customers, they mostly sell to the hippies, they won’t lose anything over this.

hollohas
03-06-2018, 14:07
I just wrote an email to REI cancelling my membership and explaining why. I have been a member for 17 years and have been shopping there much longer. I told them I won't ever buy a single item from them again.