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BushMasterBoy
03-19-2018, 16:37
OK, who is setting up bombs in Austin TX ? BLM ? Veteran ? Whack job ? And why won't they give us the details of the bombs ? Place your bets here!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/us/austin-bombings-explosion.html
thedave1164
03-19-2018, 16:46
unabomber wannabe
My wife told me about this last week, and it wasn't a few hours from when she told me that a package I didn't order showed up at my house. My address, but a different name. Amazon box, but retaped and mailed from a UPS store. I wasn't too worried since the UPS guy carried it from the truck and handed it to me; but it never went into my house. Number I called returned my call and it was some girl mailing a package to her boyfriend. I walked it up to his house.
This likely isn't BLM since the two of the three people knew each other from a black activist community. Third was a Latina. Initial impression was some white supremacist or something. Now the latest package got two White guys with some sort of trip wire.
Zundfolge
03-19-2018, 16:57
OK, who is setting up bombs in Austin TX ? BLM ? Veteran ? Whack job ? And why won't they give us the details of the bombs ? Place your bets here!
my money is on the Bureau of Land Management ... they're a shifty bunch.
Shooter45
03-19-2018, 17:07
After each of these bombs going off I see the common phrase the bomber has "a higher level of sophistication." The one from yesterday is being reported as some type of trip wire. Unabomber acted for around 20 years before he was captured. If the bomber keeps placing bombs they'll find him before long, but maybe not.
With as many traffic cams and doorbell cams there are, I don't see this going on quite as long, but maybe I'll be wrong. Money says the bomber is being careful to avoid doorbell cams though.
Mail order Glocks?
If the bomber has a van and wears something that resembles a uniform, I wouldn't give it a second thought.
USPS has contract carriers all over now (used to just be rural routes). Amazon has their own delivery service. And there are the third-rate shippers that you never cognize.
theGinsue
03-19-2018, 19:23
First, this bomber is attackng by placing bombs in pkgs on door steps. Media tells everyone this guys M.O. so they get wise and are weary of any pkg's at their doors.
Next, the bomber adjusts his technique to account for the now educated and weary public by hiding the bombs and using a difficult to see (if you're looking for it; likely impossible otherwise) trip wire. This guy is at least semi-intelligent and motivated to cause harm. He's not finished yet and unless he's sloppy I suspect plenty more folks will be hurt or killed. Austin,TX is not someplace I'd want to be right now.
GilpinGuy
03-19-2018, 22:35
This guy (I assume its a guy) is a sick f-er. It doesn't matter what group or affiliation he is associated with.
I've read a lot about Ted Kaczynski and he was "interesting" but still a sick f*ck. Total coward.
Great-Kazoo
03-19-2018, 23:49
The sad part of this is... The media is hoping he/she/it is of light skin, Trump Supporter AND caught with an AR15. Even if a gun is never used.. the main focus will be on their ARSENAL OF MILITARY STYLE WEAPONS [panic]
Aloha_Shooter
03-20-2018, 00:26
I'm guessing that if they had any evidence of the bomber being a vet, white supremacist, or Trump supporter, the info would have been leaked to the media by now. Be that as it may,, this guy needs to get turned in NOW.
Sounds like another one went off in a FedEx sort facility in Schertz (near San Antonio). Package was destined for Austin.
Just recently watched the Manhunt special on Ted Kaczynski. It was pretty well done. Shows how he'd probably never have been captured if he wasn't sending all kinds of letters to the media and the FBI. This is a pretty scary concept because I suspect someone could get away with doing this for a very long time. I feel like there has to be some kind of point or message behind this. I suspect eventually who ever is sending these bombs is going to explicitly make their point. I'd like to think that'll help authorities to find this person(s). Also kinda really interested to know what that message is. Will this stay focused on Austin? Where is going to happen next?
Authorities feel the same was as you izzy, because they made a big point in putting out a number that this person can call to tell them his message.
From the bombers perspective it'd be pretty foolish to dial that number.
Double00
03-20-2018, 09:15
Yesterday at the UPS HUB security had dogs inspecting semi's. Great now I have to worry about del. bombs.
DenverGP
03-20-2018, 09:52
This guy (I assume its a guy) is a sick f-er. It doesn't matter what group or affiliation he is associated with.
I've read a lot about Ted Kaczynski and he was "interesting" but still a sick f*ck. Total coward.
If you haven't seen it, there is a mini series on netflix called Manhunter: unibomber. Was pretty good.
If you haven't seen it, there is a mini series on netflix called Manhunter: unibomber. Was pretty good.
+1
already said that though [Beer]
CoGirl303
03-20-2018, 12:15
Sounds like another one went off in a FedEx sort facility in Schertz (near San Antonio). Package was destined for Austin.
psycho sent two of them, but one didn't go off.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/20/595136020/bomb-destined-for-austin-explodes-at-fedex-hub-near-san-antonio
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Further proof we need to ban person to person mail transfers, and packing of ones own box without oversight by the sending authority. The Mail Store loophole MUST be closed!
UrbanWolf
03-20-2018, 16:40
Knowing how packages are handled, Im surprised those packages can make it to the door step before going off.
CoGirl303
03-20-2018, 16:53
Authorities feel the same was as you izzy, because they made a big point in putting out a number that this person can call to tell them his message.
Something tells me a psych profile on this guy/girl has already been done and they did this to draw him/her out.
From the bombers perspective it'd be pretty foolish to dial that number.
not when they have an ego and this guy/girl definitely has an ego. The fact that he/she hasn't been caught yet plays into that. He/She isn't stupid, in fact this person is very intelligent, but do they have enough self-control to refrain from calling the number?
Further proof we need to ban person to person mail transfers, and packing of ones own box without oversight by the sending authority. The Mail Store loophole MUST be closed!
A 10 day waiting period on packages would help too. If any bombs had timers they would go off before delivery.
Also, ban package shoulder things that go up...
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/75/00/8e/75008ec1f3400257d4a37c6514ff1687--cottage-inglesi-art-postal.jpg
OtterbatHellcat
03-20-2018, 19:32
Further proof we need to ban person to person mail transfers, and packing of ones own box without oversight by the sending authority. The Mail Store loophole MUST be closed!
I wouldn't be surprised if we end up there someday in the not too distant future.
Incendiary device in goodwill donation box in SW Austin
http://www.9news.com/mobile/article/news/sixth-explosion-device-not-a-package-bomb-but-an-incendiary-device-apd/269-530453605
Incendiary device in goodwill donation box in SW Austin
http://www.9news.com/mobile/article/news/sixth-explosion-device-not-a-package-bomb-but-an-incendiary-device-apd/269-530453605
That's so shitty on several levels.
GilpinGuy
03-20-2018, 20:07
If you haven't seen it, there is a mini series on netflix called Manhunter: unibomber. Was pretty good.
I have seen it. Good stuff that shows the mind of bastards like this.
Something tells me a psych profile on this guy/girl has already been done and they did this to draw him/her out.
not when they have an ego and this guy/girl definitely has an ego. The fact that he/she hasn't been caught yet plays into that. He/She isn't stupid, in fact this person is very intelligent, but do they have enough self-control to refrain from calling the number?
Ego or not, still foolish.
Great-Kazoo
03-20-2018, 23:44
Something tells me a psych profile on this guy/girl has already been done and they did this to draw him/her out.
not when they have an ego and this guy/girl definitely has an ego. The fact that he/she hasn't been caught yet plays into that. He/She isn't stupid, in fact this person is very intelligent, but do they have enough self-control to refrain from calling the number?
I heard Ted Kaczynski at one time wanted to call, but he couldn't find a pay phone.
That worked.
DenverGP
03-21-2018, 00:12
So apparently the goodwill "explosion" was an artillery simulator, presumably like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBwRR1P_U3k
And they don't think it was intentionally donated/placed there, but rather someone unknowingly donated a box containing one of these.
So apparently the goodwill "explosion" was an artillery simulator, presumably like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBwRR1P_U3k
And they don't think it was intentionally donated/placed there, but rather someone unknowingly donated a box containing one of these.
Also known as a Marine Corps alarm clock. Man I hated those things as a boot.
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DenverGP
03-21-2018, 03:08
Just saw a breaking report that the suspect in the Austin bombings blew himself up as police closed in.
CoGirl303
03-21-2018, 03:38
and he's dead. foiled by receipts and security footage...apparently not so smart afterall.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/21/austin-bombing-suspect-kills-self-with-explosive-as-police-close-in-report.html
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The man, whose name was not released...
If he was a school shooter, his name would have already been plastered all over the "news".
BPTactical
03-21-2018, 07:18
The last thing through his mind......overpressure
StagLefty
03-21-2018, 07:24
The last thing through his mind......overpressure
"this is a blast " [ROFL2]
Was scrolling through his facebook friends, trying to see a pattern, when his friggin page went dark. 15 friends on FB. Posts hidden. Nothing that immediately jumped out. Only went to one friend's page and when I went back to his, it was gone.
Have now scrolled through the mom's and at least one sister's FB. Nothing political or religious that I can see, other than a pic of the alleged bomber and a note from his mom about him graduating and potentially looking to go on a mission trip. No particular affiliation noted. Mom is into anti-aging cosmetics sales.
DireWolf
03-21-2018, 09:39
The tripwire thing was apparently freaking a bunch of people out, heard several comments yesterday from people who nomally ride bikes to/from work (around Austin) and had started using Uber as a result...
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BushMasterBoy
03-21-2018, 10:28
I figured he would end up as a suicide bomber. I just thought he would do it where he was making the bombs, accidentally. Now we just have to be careful, there could be more packages in transit.
buffalobo
03-21-2018, 10:39
At least we don't have to spend next 20 yrs hearing about his appeals.
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If he was a school shooter, his name would have already been plastered all over the "news".
Was scrolling through his facebook friends, trying to see a pattern, when his friggin page went dark. 15 friends on FB. Posts hidden. Nothing that immediately jumped out. Only went to one friend's page and when I went back to his, it was gone.
How is anyone able to find his Facebook if his name wasn't released? Perhaps that was just a single article?
BushMasterBoy
03-21-2018, 11:26
I'm sure facebook deleted access to his account. Digital forensics taking place now, to see if it was a conspiracy. My instincts say he is a loner on this case. I may be wrong though.
hollohas
03-21-2018, 11:59
Well, here we go with the agenda based MSM.
Headlines are he's a "homeschooled Christian".
They just can't help but print insignificant garbage when they think it will hurt the right wing.
Zundfolge
03-21-2018, 12:00
Don't worry we'll be seeing photos of him wearing a MAGA hat any day now.
And then Trump will be asked to step down because one of his "followers" is a loon (of course nobody is asking Bernie to step down over the Republican baseball shooting).
Well, here we go with the agenda based MSM.
Headlines are he's a "homeschooled Christian".
They just can't help but print insignificant garbage when they think it will hurt the right wing.
Is that really what's going on? People want to know everything about criminals, regardless of if it's "significant."
hollohas
03-21-2018, 12:11
Is that really what's going on?
Yes, that's exactly what's going on.
Just like how they won't release his name, yet every single article I've read says it, if it's not right in the headline?
Just like how they won't release his name, yet every single article I've read says it, if it's not right in the headline?
The timeline has advanced. This morning before work, no name. They usually have a school shooter's name out quicker. I'm not surprised his name finally got out, especially if it makes him look like a right wing nutter.
From what I can tell, the police haven't released his name but those around the incident have revealed his name. This morning's news also had his age at 24, while other reports say 23.
CoGirl303
03-21-2018, 17:56
Well, here we go with the agenda based MSM.
Headlines are he's a "homeschooled Christian".
They just can't help but print insignificant garbage when they think it will hurt the right wing.
his blog suggests this may be an accurate depiction and that he was also anti-gay.
http://definingmystance.blogspot.com/?m=1
The link to the blog was derived from an article on LGBTQ nation which appeared in my fb feed from a friend's post.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/03/austin-bombing-suspect-mark-conditt-antigay-conservative/
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That was 6 years ago. A lot can change with a person in 6 years.
CoGirl303
03-21-2018, 20:25
That was 6 years ago. A lot can change with a person in 6 years.
do you really think a person's political beliefs will change that much in 6 years?
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Not impossible at all. Nothing wrong with changing how you feel about things, especially when you're just a normal person and not a politician.
do you really think a person's political beliefs will change that much in 6 years?
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Yes, because mine did.
hollohas
03-21-2018, 20:42
do you really think a person's political beliefs will change that much in 6 years?
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5 years ago I'd never been to a single church service. Since then I've been baptized and even gotten so involved in church that I was elected to our board of decons.
People change even more than that in shorter periods of time.
Maybe we'll get to hear the 25 minute confession at some point. That would be a lot more significant than a random, class required blog post from 6 years ago.
I'd put money on him being gay and hating himself for it. Hid it from his conservative family.
First two victims appear to have quite possibly been of the gay persuasion.
Just my bet.
Zundfolge
03-21-2018, 21:27
I'd put money on him being gay and hating himself for it. Hid it from his conservative family.
First two victims appear to have quite possibly been of the gay persuasion.
Just my bet.
I think the whole "hates gays so must be secretly gay" trope is more wishful thinking on the part of people who promote gay rights, used as a rhetorical bludgeon, than it is a real thing.
Based on the fact that he recorded a 26 minute "confession" video and it didn't contain any sort of politically of culturally driven "call to action" (if it did we'd have all heard about it ... especially if it was anything to the right of Noam Chomsky). My money is that he suffered from a dissociative personality disorder of some sort (no, not dissaociative identity disorder, aka "multiple personality disorder" but one of the other forms). Or maybe even full blown schizophrenia.
Like most people that murder randomly, its just nutters, not some sort of terrorism.
Aloha_Shooter
03-21-2018, 21:58
do you really think a person's political beliefs will change that much in 6 years?
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Hillary's did. She supposedly entered college as an establishment Republican and definitely left it as a Saul Alinsky Leftist.
CoGirl303
03-22-2018, 05:22
Sure can.
5 years ago I'd never been to a single church service. Since then I've been baptized and even gotten so involved in church that I was elected to our board of decons.
People change even more than that in shorter periods of time.
Maybe we'll get to hear the 25 minute confession at some point. That would be a lot more significant than a random, class required blog post from 6 years ago.
im not talking religious beliefs. I'm talking political beliefs.
I know religious beliefs can change quite easily.
It's been my experience that political beliefs are less apt to change.
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The two must necessarily be conjoined, lest a person fight against themselves and truth. The religious necessarily informs the political. If it's the other way around, a person has a major problem to reconcile.
Based on the fact that he recorded a 26 minute "confession" video and it didn't contain any sort of politically of culturally driven "call to action" (if it did we'd have all heard about it ... especially if it was anything to the right of Noam Chomsky). My money is that he suffered from a dissociative personality disorder of some sort (no, not dissaociative identity disorder, aka "multiple personality disorder" but one of the other forms). Or maybe even full blown schizophrenia.
I'd be willing to bet real money he was on some sort of meds to treat a mental problem.
im not talking religious beliefs. I'm talking political beliefs.
I know religious beliefs can change quite easily.
It's been my experience that political beliefs are less apt to change.
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People change their political beliefs all the time. This isn't rare or uncommon at all.
I'm sad people haven't figured it out yet.
If the beliefs/motivations can be used against Conservatives, they will be released.
If the belief/motivations are damaging to Libs, they will be reworked or hidden.
Social media is part of media.
Guy could have been 100% mental. Being mental doesn't move the needle for Libs so that's seldom a story.
JohnnyDrama
03-22-2018, 12:45
+1 Skip
With the collective ADD our society has I figure the golden hour for the left/media to make hay has long passed. This episode will join the Las Vegas shooting as an anomalous footnote in the history of this decade.
CoGirl303
03-22-2018, 14:58
People change their political beliefs all the time. This isn't rare or uncommon at all.
I guess I just haven't been around those who have and I certainly haven't heard about it from anyone I know.
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I guess I just haven't been around those who have and I certainly haven't heard about it from anyone I know.
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About 5 years ago, a longtime friend of mine showed up at my house in special edition Obama shoes.
He voted for Trump.
"Austin serial bomber was part of a Christian survivalist group that spoke of weapons and dangerous chemicals"
'A lot of us were very into science; we would discuss chemicals and how to mix them and which ones were dangerous,' Schultz, now 21, said.
'We were into weapons and stuff. A lot of us did role-playing, and (role-playing games); we'd have foam weapons and act out a battle.'
Schultz, who described Conditt as a 'normal kid', said she couldn't recall bombs or bomb making ever being discussed at the RIOT groups. She added that other members of their group were shocked to hear Conditt was behind the deadly Austin bombings.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5532313/Austin-bomber-Mark-Conditt-Christian-survivalist-group.html
Survivalists against what, a bad roll in D&D? Sound like a bunch of nerds more than a "survivalist" group.
Even though i don't have a leg to stand on.
I see what you did there.
"Austin serial bomber was part of a Christian survivalist group that spoke of weapons and dangerous chemicals"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5532313/Austin-bomber-Mark-Conditt-Christian-survivalist-group.html
Survivalists against what, a bad roll in D&D? Sound like a bunch of nerds more than a "survivalist" group.
*AGHAST* Did you just confuse D&D players with LARPERS?
OH NO, YOU DIDN'T.
73968
Oh, Dr. Grey. You're such a nerd. I love it. [Coffee]
Great-Kazoo
03-22-2018, 17:19
Oh, Dr. Grey. You're such a nerd. I love it. [Coffee]
I don't understand her favoring these star wars characters over star trek [panic]
*AGHAST* Did you just confuse D&D players with LARPERS?
OH NO, YOU DIDN'T.
73968
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
I was under the impression those milieus melded together in a retainer-wearing slobber fest.
[panic]
I don't understand her favoring these star wars characters over star trek [panic]
Ordinarily, those would be fightin' words. In the enlightened era, it is okay to like both. [Coffee]
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
I was under the impression those milieus melded together in a retainer-wearing slobber fest.
[panic]
Well, now you know better. LARPers occupy the second-lowest rung of the ladder, only above furries. [Shake]
The original D&D players (as with other role-players, because there are other games) are CEOs, business owners, or other kinds of successful individuals. So neener, neener! ;)
buffalobo
03-22-2018, 19:55
Cav and Kazoo, take it to PM, quit derail.
hollohas
03-22-2018, 20:26
Survivalists against what, a bad roll in D&D? Sound like a bunch of nerds more than a "survivalist" group.
My thoughts exactly.
OtterbatHellcat
03-22-2018, 20:46
Austin Bomber = fuck-head.
That is the most cowardice way to be.........kill civilians.
Way to go, fag.
kidicarus13
03-23-2018, 12:05
What are you saying? Don't record a confession on your phone?
BushMasterBoy
03-23-2018, 14:05
Probably was AI assisted. Link below shows some prescient thinking. It was a movie from 1970 called "Colossus: The Forbin Project...the only thing that matters is that the bombing has stopped. The world is changing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRq7Muf6CKg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project
Great-Kazoo
03-23-2018, 15:06
The first article I read on him stated investigators already pieced together the bombs, tracked down where all the components were purchased, did gumshoe detective work, and tracked him down after pursuing all the component leads.
I call total bullshit. In the time-frames we are talking about? No.
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Agree it has something fishy about how this was "solved". Yet The LV shooter is "still a mystery" ??
What are you saying? Don't record a confession on your phone?
Didn't have to.
If that phone was in his pocket when he dressed up to make the FedEx drops, it pinged every tower en route, there, and back.
Imagine the time/location narrowed it to a few dozen suspects at each drop and a single cross-check left them one suspect who stood out. The phone could have led them back to the motel too.
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