New Gun Video Channel. Full30.com. Dump YouTube. Spread the Word.

[GeorgeandSugar]

https://www.full30.com/

Time to dump YouTube and move over to Full30.com. Spread the word. This post will be duplicated and placed on other gun forums to get the word out.

“YouTube has updated it’s policies regarding videos featuring firearms, and it could result in a whole lot of gun-related content being removed from the site.

Here is how the YouTube policy on firearms content now reads:
YouTube prohibits certain kinds of content featuring firearms. Specifically, we don’t allow content that:

• Intends to sell firearms or certain firearms accessories through direct sales (e.g., private sales by individuals) or links to sites that sell these items. These accessories include but may not be limited to accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire or convert a firearm to automatic fire (e.g., bump stocks, gatling triggers, drop-in auto sears, conversion kits), and high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds).

• Provides instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories such as those listed above. This also includes instructions on how to convert a firearm to automatic or simulated automatic firing capabilities.

• Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications.”

https://www.range365.com/youtube-changes-policy-on-gun-content


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[wctriumph]

I signed up and will check back and see how they are doing.

[Irving]

Do they have other content besides guns?

[GeorgeandSugar]

Do they have other content besides guns?

Just gun-related topics, so far.


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[Irving]

So there is zero chance it will even show up on the radar of YouTube, let alone be a replacement.

[Skip]

Cool idea and glad someone did it. I'm sure it's already blacklisted from G search results.

[fitz19d]

It's actually been around like more than a year. Shows why competitors to youtube have a very hard time, especially this which is all gun/tactical/mil/leo stuff. Only hope is amazon I heard going to try and make a youtube type service, which is big enough to stand a chance, especially with people like pewdiepie and other multiple million strong subscriber personalities starting to turn against youtube for rampant monetization games and censorship. (will demonetize stuff that isnt actually given a strike for the first few days, then remonetized after the bulk of views come thru)

[Irving]

I think Apple is going to put a billion dollars into a video streaming service as well. I think that's actually to compete with Netflix though. I don't see Apple or Amazon having views much different than YouTube.

[Zundfolge]

I still wonder if Full30 isn't abandonware ... creators keep adding videos to their channel, but there doesn't seem to be any more development going on and the admins seem to be ignoring the community.


That said, its a good idea to sub to whatever gun channels there that you watch on youtube just in case youtube starts cutting throats in the middle of the night.

[OtterbatHellcat]

Come to think of it, I haven't got anything recent from Hickok 45. I kinda wonder if they cut him off...I'll look later when I have more time I suppose.

[ben4372]

I'll check back. But it's kinda clunky and dated. Still happy to see the alternative.

[MarkCO]

People are freaking out. 3-21-18 at 5:30 is rumored to be the time that YouTube drops the hammer on over 80% of gun channels. All instructional, commercial, advertising, etc.

[GilpinGuy]

People are freaking out. 3-21-18 at 5:30 is rumored to be the time that YouTube drops the hammer on over 80% of gun channels. All instructional, commercial, advertising, etc.

Seriously? Was this a press release or something? This would be great news for the alternative sites.

[Honey Badger282.8]

Full30 has been around for a few of years, it hasn't really taken off, I wish it did. Gun channels aren't the only ones leaving, Motor Trend just announced that all future episodes of their shows will be on their own site.

[GilpinGuy]

Full30 has been around for a few of years, it hasn't really taken off, I wish it did. Gun channels aren't the only ones leaving, Motor Trend just announced that all future episodes of their shows will be on their own site.

Give it about 7 hours.

[Joe_K]

Can’t say this is surprising. Until conservative/liberty loving tech gurus can compete with Google/Apple/Microsoft/Facebook/Instagram/Twitter/ and the Mainstream Media, we will continue to see the left marginalize the conservative/liberty/freedom voice.

The other side is winning. Think about what they control for a minute.

They have the schools = The next generation of this nations population.

They have the press and media = What people see, hear, and believe.

They have arts and entertainment = Social distraction and subliminal mental manipulation.

They have equal or greater political influence = The ability to force their agenda on even an outspoken minority.

They have the ability to get hundreds of thousands of people mobilized to protest and demonstrate anything, (even if the majority are professional paid protesters)

We are fighting this with losing rhetoric and explanations that don’t win anybody on the fence over to our perspective.

Clip vs Magazine
AR = Armalite Rifle not Assault Rifle
Standard vs High Capacity

We get stuck picking apart the amateurish arguments with novices and lose the moral victory, we complain about YouTube etc but no one from our side is putting realistic working alternatives, we are 15 years too late to the party.



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[hollohas]

The Military Arms Channel certainly isn't too happy about it...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/03/robert-farago/military-arms-channel-youtube-anti-gun-jihad-kicking-into-high-gear/

[def90]

Seriously? Was this a press release or something? This would be great news for the alternative sites.

yes, new terms of service state:

"Policies on content featuring firearms

YouTube prohibits certain kinds of content featuring firearms. Specifically, we don’t allow content that:

Intends to sell firearms or certain firearms accessories through direct sales (e.g., private sales by individuals) or links to sites that sell these items. These accessories include but may not be limited to accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire or convert a firearm to automatic fire (e.g., bump stocks, gatling triggers, drop-in auto sears, conversion kits), and high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds).
Provides instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories such as those listed above. This also includes instructions on how to convert a firearm to automatic or simulated automatic firing capabilities.
Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications."

[CoGirl303]

I don't think vimeo censors gun content. thats where most former youtube users are posting nowadays.


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[CHA-LEE]

Beggars can't be choosers. If you are running a business that relies on a third party system for free, and the third party decides to change policies then you don't have a leg to stand on. If your business relies on video content to make money you should be hosting that content yourself.

Big technology companies like YouTube, Face Book, and all the others are all about the bottom line. They also have zero patience or tolerance for being supporting of things others may consider "Bad". They don't want to be pictured as a supporter of whatever social or media fiasco is going on at any given moment. That is their choice to make with the products they provide. All we can do as consumers is voice our displeasure with our lack of participation. That is a big reason why I refuse to participate in social media platforms.

[UrbanWolf]

Can’t say this is surprising. Until conservative/liberty loving tech gurus can compete with Google/Apple/Microsoft/Facebook/Instagram/Twitter/ and the Mainstream Media, we will continue to see the left marginalize the conservative/liberty/freedom voice.

The other side is winning. Think about what they control for a minute.

They have the schools = The next generation of this nations population.

They have the press and media = What people see, hear, and believe.

They have arts and entertainment = Social distraction and subliminal mental manipulation.

They have equal or greater political influence = The ability to force their agenda on even an outspoken minority.

They have the ability to get hundreds of thousands of people mobilized to protest and demonstrate anything, (even if the majority are professional paid protesters)

We are fighting this with losing rhetoric and explanations that don’t win anybody on the fence over to our perspective.

Clip vs Magazine
AR = Armalite Rifle not Assault Rifle
Standard vs High Capacity

We get stuck picking apart the amateurish arguments with novices and lose the moral victory, we complain about YouTube etc but no one from our side is putting realistic working alternatives, we are 15 years too late to the party.



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So true.

[KestrelBike]

InRange TV has apparently started uploading to pornhub. It's actually happened, but not sure how much of a permanent practice it will be compared to just a statement of sorts.

There are a lot of people fist-bumping each other over on Instagram about it, but I don't think it's good optics for us at all.

[ben4372]

InRange TV has apparently started uploading to pornhub. It's actually happened, but not sure how much of a permanent practice it will be compared to just a statement of sorts.

There are a lot of people fist-bumping each other over on Instagram about it, but I don't think it's good optics for us at all.
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Yeah, thats a bad idea. It is telling though. I guess I'm going to have to buy my ammo in the dark, and scurry back to the car. It's funny that something in the constitution is now a fetish.

[Irving]

Educate me about where the channels on the Roku are hosted. It'd be cool to have more content on Roku. A LOT of people have Roku and other independent streaming devices. I think that would be a great move. AND YouTube sucks on the Roku.

[RblDiver]

It was mentioned at some point in the past, and I forget the specifics, but there was some law related to online content (done in the early days of the internet) that gives protection to content providers so long as they're neutral in their offerings (like, they aren't liable for the content others post unless they take an active hand in it or something).

Would love to get YT in front of Congress to explain if they should get this protection, or, due to taking stances, they are now liable for any jihadi videos, tide pod challenges, etc that get posted.

[Irving]

That would be an exchange definitely worth watching.

[UrbanWolf]

InRange TV has apparently started uploading to pornhub. It's actually happened, but not sure how much of a permanent practice it will be compared to just a statement of sorts.

There are a lot of people fist-bumping each other over on Instagram about it, but I don't think it's good optics for us at all.

Religious people will be repelled by it, youngsters who are already exposed to gun control mentality will get less exposure to gun friendly contents online, this is going to have a negative effect if they did it for real instead of a joke. The bigger channels better never follow their steps.

[Justin]

InRange did that as a statement, and likely because it matches the sense of humor Ian and Carl have.

They've also uploaded their videos to other venues as well.

[Rumline]

youngsters who are already exposed to gun control mentality will get less exposure to gun friendly contents online
I'm not sure about that. If you want to increase viewership of adolescent males I can't think of a better place to host the videos than on a porn site.

[Rumline]

It'd be cool to have more content on Roku. A LOT of people have Roku and other independent streaming devices. I think that would be a great move. AND YouTube sucks on the Roku.
Agree. These alternate streaming sites need to ensure they have apps for all platforms, including Roku.

[zulu01]

I believe Full30 was started by Military Arms Channel.

[CoGirl303]

Pornhub has banned gun vids too

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/04/01/pornhub-bans-gun-videos/


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[izzy]

Hmmm I should have been visiting that site all this time and now I've missed out.

[Gman]

Hmmm I should have been visiting that site all this time and now I've missed out.You could still hunt through the site looking for the gun videos you heard about being hosted there.

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[UrbanWolf]

Pornhub has banned gun vids too

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/04/01/pornhub-bans-gun-videos/


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Makes me wonder who exactly are the big money behind these porn sites.

[Wulf202]

I believe Full30 was started by Military Arms Channel.correct

[izzy]

You could still hunt through the site looking for the gun videos you heard about being hosted there.

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You know, for science.

[00tec]

Pornhub has banned gun vids too

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/04/01/pornhub-bans-gun-videos/


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4/1 publish date? Gonna need an additional source then.

[CoGirl303]

4/1 publish date? Gonna need an additional source then.

admittedly, I'm hard pressed to find one.


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[Justin]

That's because it was an April Fool's Day joke from TFB.