*Resolved* TV/Audio/Video help

[CoGirl303]

I have a

32" Samsung LED HDTV Model No. UN32J5003AF w/ no audio outputs
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A Kenwood A/V Receiver model no. KR-V6030
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This will need to run the audio from the TV and the Playstation 3 through the surround sound. I don't plan to connect anything else (aside from speakers and sub to the receiver). The PS3 has a built in Blu-Ray/DVD player.

I run a Serviio Media Server on my computer to my PS3 to stream all of my movies and tv shows via a wireless router on my private home network (no internet connection currently).

With no audio outputs, how can I run surround sound?

Is there a switch, converter box or something that can make this possible without having to buy a new tv?

My current tv is 3 years old and I bought it from Best Buy and didn't realize it didn't have an audio output until a year and a half after I bought it.





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[cableguy11]

You need a new receiver. The audio is on the HDMI and on the digital audio out at the top. Your receiver does not have HDMI from what I can see. You would hook up everything to your receiver and one HDMI out to the TV for video and the receiver runs the audio. Your TV is newer than the receiver and hence the incompatibility. I would wager 99.9% of all TV's are just like the one you have.

[CoGirl303]

You need a new receiver. The audio is on the HDMI and on the digital audio out at the top. Your receiver does not have HDMI from what I can see. You would hook up everything to your receiver and one HDMI out to the TV for video and the receiver runs the audio. Your TV is newer than the receiver and hence the incompatibility. I would wager 99.9% of all TV's are just like the one you have.

Crap.


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[CoGirl303]

will coax cable run the audio I need to the receiver?


esit: scratch that. I don't even have a coax connection on the receiver.

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[cableguy11]

If memory serves me right, you need a digital to analog converter...Not super cheap and they do not work that great.

Could be cheaper units that do the same thing but if you look at the back cover you can see the multiple HDMI inputs and only one HDMI out that would send the video to your TV.

https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR373-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B06XVGCBZ4/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1524105546&sr=8-9&keywords=receivers

[00tec]

You should be able to make it work.

I spot an optical out on the TV,
Could use this:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toslink-Signal-Optical-Coaxial-Digital-to-Analog-Audio-Converter-Adapter-RCA-L-R-with-Fiber-Cable/441684946?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=503&adid=22222222228142138621&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=253409212717&wl4=pla-416200055899&wl5=9028734&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=111840109&wl11=online&wl12=441684946&wl13=&veh=sem

[CoGirl303]

If memory serves me right, you need a digital to analog converter...Not super cheap and they do not work that great.

Could be cheaper units that do the same thing but if you look at the back cover you can see the multiple HDMI inputs and only one HDMI out that would send the video to your TV.

https://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR373-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B06XVGCBZ4/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1524105546&sr=8-9&keywords=receivers

I'd rather not spend $200 on a new receiver. I'm pissed because I just bought this receiver off craigslist and I doubt the guy will take it back now. [emoji20] I'm out $50.



You should be able to make it work.

I spot an optical out on the TV,
Could use this:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toslink-Signal-Optical-Coaxial-Digital-to-Analog-Audio-Converter-Adapter-RCA-L-R-with-Fiber-Cable/441684946?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=503&adid=22222222228142138621&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=253409212717&wl4=pla-416200055899&wl5=9028734&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=111840109&wl11=online&wl12=441684946&wl13=&veh=sem

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[DFBrews]

I am running a optical cable from my led vizio to an older non hdmi port receiver

[CoGirl303]

I am running a optical cable from my led vizio to an older non hdmi port receiver

I dont even see an optical in on the back of the receiver.


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[cableguy11]

You should be able to make it work.

I spot an optical out on the TV,
Could use this:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Toslink-Signal-Optical-Coaxial-Digital-to-Analog-Audio-Converter-Adapter-RCA-L-R-with-Fiber-Cable/441684946?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=503&adid=22222222228142138621&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=253409212717&wl4=pla-416200055899&wl5=9028734&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=111840109&wl11=online&wl12=441684946&wl13=&veh=sem

That should work for you.

[CoGirl303]

That should work for you.

link isnt working

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[00tec]

I'd rather not spend $200 on a new receiver. I'm pissed because I just bought this receiver off craigslist and I doubt the guy will take it back now. [emoji20] I'm out $50.




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Try this link.

https://www.amazon.com/CSRET-Digital-Converter-Adapter-Headphone/dp/B0152IL7JM?gclid=CjwKCAjw2dvWBRBvEiwADllhn4VBziNrF W3DLbkRQRrcrS5USwHl-umwH82s_2IfyVgcCm3FyKp-PhoChYwQAvD_BwE

[CoGirl303]

Try this link.

https://www.amazon.com/CSRET-Digital-Converter-Adapter-Headphone/dp/B0152IL7JM?gclid=CjwKCAjw2dvWBRBvEiwADllhn4VBziNrF W3DLbkRQRrcrS5USwHl-umwH82s_2IfyVgcCm3FyKp-PhoChYwQAvD_BwE

thanks. I'll give it a try.


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[00tec]

thanks. I'll give it a try.


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There are other options on amazon in the same vein. Some include the optical cable.

[CoGirl303]

There are other options on amazon in the same vein. Some include the optical cable.

what about this one?

HDMI Converter, CSRET 1080P HDMI to AV 3RCA CVBS Composite Video Audio Converter with Zoom Function Supporting PAL/ NTSC with USB Charge Cable for PC /Laptop /Xbox/ PS3 /TV /STB /VHS /VCR /DVD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N47KTKR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Hwa2Ab217WFZK


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[00tec]

What's your video source?

If you run through that thing, you will lose any HD to your TV.

[cableguy11]

what about this one?

HDMI Converter, CSRET 1080P HDMI to AV 3RCA CVBS Composite Video Audio Converter with Zoom Function Supporting PAL/ NTSC with USB Charge Cable for PC /Laptop /Xbox/ PS3 /TV /STB /VHS /VCR /DVD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N47KTKR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Hwa2Ab217WFZK


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You would have to swap it for each device..only one hdmi input. The optical conversion is your best bet as you are only sending the sound to your receiver.

[CoGirl303]

You would have to swap it for each device..only one hdmi input. The optical conversion is your best bet as you are only sending the sound to your receiver.

i wonder if there's multi hdmi to rca one?


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[USMC88-93]

Just be aware that the solutions provided above will provide you with left and right stereo and not "surround" sound. Your next component upgrade should be a new receiver with either optical or hdmi inputs available.

The optical out off the back of the television to a receiver that has an optical input port would allow any input into your television (all input ports) to feed audio to a receiver off one cable.

[CoGirl303]

What's your video source?

If you run through that thing, you will lose any HD to your TV.

well if I was outputting from the tv to the receiver it would just be sound. so why/how would I lose HD?

this stuff is so confusing.


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[cableguy11]

i wonder if there's multi hdmi to rca one?


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Potentially, but as mentioned you will lose your HD video quality. It is taking the HDMI signal and splitting it up into a video and audio analog. The analog video does not have the capability to pass HD signals. The receiver is too old to handle todays video signals.

[CoGirl303]

Potentially, but as mentioned you will lose your HD video quality.

I see now. swell.



Just be aware that the solutions provided above will provide you with left and right stereo and not "surround" sound. Your next component upgrade should be a new receiver with either optical or hdmi inputs available.

I guess I'll contact the guy I bought the receiver from and see what he says tomorrow.


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[CS1983]

Audio and video both flow on HDMI. When you plug into the converter, you will end up without HD for the output. If you notice in the description, it supports HD input, not output.

[USMC88-93]

well if I was outputting from the tv to the receiver it would just be sound. so why/how would I lose HD?

this stuff is so confusing.


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There is no HDMI out on any television. HDMI ports on the back of televisions are always inputs. So that is not a workable solution.

[CoGirl303]

There is no HDMI out on any television. HDMI ports on the back of televisions are always inputs. So that is not a workable solution.

Ok, I'm on the same page now.


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[00tec]

The receiver you bought is a 2 channel, you won't get surround out of it anyway. Notice that you only have left and right output, no front and rear.

Personally, I would just get the optical (toslink) to analog converter, install it on the TV output and be able to hear all of your TV sound in stereo. This way, you preserve your HD since you aren't touching the video input.

[Irving]

If you run it off your computer anyway, why don't you just run the sound from the laptop to the receiver? You probably can't do that, but thought I'd suggest it just in case.

[CoGirl303]

If you run it off your computer anyway, why don't you just run the sound from the laptop to the receiver? You probably can't do that, but thought I'd suggest it just in case.

it's in a different room. and wouldnt work anyways due to the media server software running through the PS3. It's hosted on my computer but streamed via wireless to the PS3. so the PS3 controls it via the host computer.


http://www.serviio.org/



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[daknee_k]

You can use this from the digital out of your TV to any of the receiver's inputs.
I recommend using Video One input. This box comes with the optical digital cable that goes from the TV to this converter, but not the red and white stereo RCA cables that would go from the converter to the receiver.
As was said before, this will give you louder and better sound, but not real surround sound.

https://www.amazon.com/ROOFULL-Digital-Optical-Converter-Toslink/dp/B07142SV1D/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1524111146&sr=1-3&keywords=spdif+to+rca

[Irving]

This looks like it might work for you as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVRX6400H-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B072Z399G4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1524112006&sr=1-2&keywords=Denon+AVRX6300H&dpID=41-z5%252BSODqL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

[daknee_k]

Go big or go home!

[brutal]

Audio via HDMI from the TV is only going to work if it's ARC (Audio Return Channel)

The optical out to a converter is probably your best bet.

[Zundfolge]

Is there no headphone jack on the TV?

If there is, then use this cable from your headphone jack output to the appropriate input on the receiver.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61IDd39TKkL._SX425_.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-3-5mm-2-Male-Adapter-Cable/dp/B01D5H8JW0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1524149880&sr=1-1&keywords=headphone+jack+to+rca+cable
(https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-3-5mm-2-Male-Adapter-Cable/dp/B01D5H8JW0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1524149880&sr=1-1&keywords=headphone+jack+to+rca+cable)

ETA:
Based on a little Googling ... looks like your TV doesn't have a headphone jack. Seems to be the major complaint and what keeps that particular TV from getting the highest ratings.

[Irving]

If you're running from the PS3, can you run the audio from the PS3 directly to the receiver?

[CoGirl303]

If you're running from the PS3, can you run the audio from the PS3 directly to the receiver?

It's HDMI.

I could buy the PS3 HiDef RCA's and run it to the receiver, but that doesn't resolve the issue of the audio via the OTA antenna if I want to watch a Broncos game or a tv show.


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[00tec]

I have posted the solution. [gohome]

[CoGirl303]

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will this work?

at walmart and they dont have the ones you all posted.


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[00tec]

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will this work?

at walmart and they dont have the ones you all posted.


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Nope. That will not pipe your OTA broadcast audio to your receiver

[CoGirl303]

Nope. That will not pipe your OTA broadcast audio to your receiver

Ok. guess I'll have to order it online and wait. [emoji19]


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[CoGirl303]

Best Buy had what I needed. pricey but available.


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[CoGirl303]

too cool Foxtrot. But my computer is a 27" iMAC. Also have a 15" macbook pro.

I quit using PC's and Windows based computer stuff about 7 years ago. No regrets and have never looked back.

Waiting on 4 klipsch satellite speakers to arrive on Tuesday. Got all 4 for $50 shipped.


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[CoGirl303]

ordered a pair of hdmi/ethernet wallplates. one for the living room and one for the bedroom closet.

I'm going to run the hdmi and ethernet wires under the baseboard in the bedroom to the closet and put one wall plate with bridge wires for both between the wallplates. Then install the living room wallplate and run a cord of each under the baseboard to the tv and playstation. (Already had the cables on hand in a box of electronics and wires that I went through today).

For some reason movies play great via wireless on the Serviio Media Server but downloaded tv shows are choppy and cut in and out. This should resolve the issue and I now can get a wireless keyboard (already have a wireless mouse) for the living room and pull up a browser and stream whatever I want right to the tv and play music through the surround sound. Similar to foxtrots idea but slightly different in concept and doesnt require special software, just a few cables.

The power of computing and technology is amazing.


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[BPTactical]

"On" button?

[CoGirl303]

"On" button?

my computer is never off unless I know I'm going to be out of town for several days.


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[brutal]

"On" button?

You ever figure out your 8-track?

[CoGirl303]

this throw together surround sound was a lost cause. oh well. $100 down the drain. [emoji20]

bought a new yamaha a/v receiver and a yamaha surround sound. Speakers and sub are on backorder.




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[CoGirl303]

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should have done this from the start! This sounds amazing for such a low end home a/v system. Everything works. All that's left to do is run a hard wire from the router to the PS3 to resolve the choppy streaming issues, and an HDMI from the desktop computer, install the wallplate and all is done.

[emoji16]


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[CoGirl303]

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Ran the wires, installed the wallplates. Had a minor issue with the picture skipping when running the hdmi cable from the computer to the wallplate to the receiver. Checked all the connections, they were solid.So I went from the pc to the wall plate to the tv input and resolved the issue. I can now stream live sports via the internet from the pc right to the tv and the surround sound.

Manually named all the inputs and tested each.

Setup the HD antenna and tested location on all channels then mounted it on the wall.

Bluetooth headphones work.

Aux/Line Out from the phone/ipod to the surround sound works perfect.

Iphone via bluetooth to the receiver is oddly a bit choppy. However moving the phone closer to the receiver seems to resolve the issue.

PS3 is now hard wired to the router. Video playback issues have been resolved and there is no more buffering or choppy video that cuts out.

PS3 also plays blu-ray and dvd discs.

AM/FM antenna is setup and routed.

All issues resolved. Perfect set up. No need for cable/satellite or netflixs. I now have the media world at my fingertips. [emoji16]






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