View Full Version : NY City Police raid house, find arsenal of weapons and ammo
DenverGP
04-23-2018, 16:33
Usually their "arsenal" is a couple guns and couple hundred rounds of ammo
This time, i think the story is getting closer to correct usage. 65+ weapons, and over 50,000 rounds of ammo.
Guess I need to step up my game.
https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2018/04/18/nypd-makes-massive-gun-bust-finds-unprecedented-amount-ammo/
Hmmm....I wonder who ratted him out....
mattiooo
04-23-2018, 16:49
https://i.imgflip.com/1qnjx3.jpg
Quite literally a victim-less crime, facing 25 years.
Naw that's a small collection with some Shooting ammo IMHO. Is it just me or is it getting painful to read anything reported about firearm related topics anymore. Seemed like a Lot of it was C&R stuff.
Some real classics in that collection.
There's got to be more to this story.
And with that many firearms, 50k+ rounds isn't even that much.
Hell, they listed airguns, which are probably illegal in NYC, too. Given the media and liberal police agencies involved, is it safe to assume that BB's and/or pellets contribute to the 50k?
buffalobo
04-23-2018, 17:02
Quite literally a victim-less crime, facing 25 years.Almost victimless, the perp is being victimized IMO.
Anybody have any info on perp, background or criminal history?
CoGirl303
04-23-2018, 17:12
a Colt Light Machine Gun front end...what in the hell?
Quite literally a victim-less crime, facing 25 years.
well if he had full auto weapons (the Thompson) and no stamp...he brought it on himself.
The tax stamp racket is bs and we all hate it but it is enforceable.
you can rest assured every single one of those weapons will be destroyed. they wont bother with selling them.
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SideShow Bob
04-23-2018, 17:17
“A Colt Light Machine Gun front end” Can someone point out/explain that one for me ?
I saw what could be a couple of SBR ARs, but “a Colt Light Machine Gun front end” ?
“A Colt Light Machine Gun front end” Can someone point out/explain that one for me ?
I saw what could be a couple of SBR ARs, but “a Colt Light Machine Gun front end” ?
NM Found it.
Look at the bipod supported rifle on the left in the last photo. Maybe that's it?
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SideShow Bob
04-23-2018, 17:25
Saw where? I didn't see any photos, or links to photos.
Click the hi-lighted in blue words in the link.
“A Colt Light Machine Gun front end” Can someone point out/explain that one for me ?
I saw what could be a couple of SBR ARs, but “a Colt Light Machine Gun front end” ?
Looks like it’s gonna be this firearm located in the center of the pic
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Automatic_Rifle
That doesn’t look like the stockpile of a gang banger’s underground arms dealer to me
Every time I see a photo of a bunch of cops standing around a table full of guns, I have more and more respect for firefighters.
Every time I see a photo of a bunch of cops standing around a table full of guns, I have more and more respect for firefighters.
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eddiememphis
04-23-2018, 17:55
Police also found two bags of cocaine on the scene, sources said.
Bailey Guns
04-23-2018, 18:27
Every time I see a photo of a bunch of cops standing around a table full of guns, I have more and more respect for firefighters.
Do you think if the NYFD had gone into his home for whatever reason and saw that stash of guns/ammo they wouldn't have freaked out and let LE know about the "arsenal" this guy had?
Well, I don't think that fire fighters would gather around a table full of unignited gas cans and pat themselves on the back for being such heroes.
Bailey Guns
04-23-2018, 18:38
Sorry...but your analogy just isn't working. It's not the FD's job to confiscate illegal property. The FD would call the PD to seize the gas cans and the photo op, which is strictly political in nature and probably doesn't feature a single rank and file officer involved, would feature cops AND firefighters...mostly brass.
Big city, east coast FDs and PDs have a much different attitude about a lot of things people in this part of the country (the west) see as normal or not a big deal.
Sorry...but your analogy just isn't working. It's not the FD's job to confiscate illegal property. The FD would call the PD to seize the gas cans and the photo op, which is strictly political in nature and probably doesn't feature a single rank and file officer involved,
Yep, this is the issue right here. Don't worry, no one is hating on cops, certainly not enough for anyone to run to their defense.
CoGirl303
04-23-2018, 18:46
Every time I see a photo of a bunch of cops standing around a table full of guns, I have more and more respect for firefighters.
starting to think the "theory" that police and military won't be against the 2A/gunowners crowd is a bunch of hogwash.
Police also found two bags of cocaine on the scene, sources said.
getting harder and harder to feel sorry for this guy. he's making it really difficult.
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Is he though? How long does it take a person to acquire a collection like that? Especially in New York? My impression (based on almost nothing) is that this guy has been laying low for a long time.
chuckchili
04-23-2018, 19:36
Some neat stuff in there. Always wanted a SPAS 12. Too bad it’s probably all going to the shredder.
Some neat stuff in there. Always wanted a SPAS 12.
...the last time I saw one, I was watching The Terminator.
[QUOTE=CoGirl303;2136875]a Colt Light Machine Gun front end...what in the hell?
Light machine gun uppers were made by Colt for the M16 family of rifles. The LMG upper generally shipped with an open bolt set up to prevent cook offs, had a very heavy barrel and a larger hand guard to protect the shooters hands from heat, as well as a bipod. I think they mounted on any lower without any parts being changed out, but I'm not 100% certain on that.
A cook off is a situation where the barrel gets so hot that the rounds ignite from the heat of the chamber, usually only stopping once the magazine is empty. This upper prevents that from happening because it is open bolt.
Is he though? How long does it take a person to acquire a collection like that? Especially in New York? My impression (based on almost nothing) is that this guy has been laying low for a long time.
Money and determination can achieve quite a bit.
CoGirl303
04-23-2018, 19:55
[QUOTE=CoGirl303;2136875]a Colt Light Machine Gun front end...what in the hell?
Light machine gun uppers were made by Colt for the M16 family of rifles. The LMG upper generally shipped with an open bolt set up to prevent cook offs, had a very heavy barrel and a larger hand guard to protect the shooters hands from heat, as well as a bipod. I think they mounted on any lower without any parts being changed out, but I'm not 100% certain on that.
A cook off is a situation where the barrel gets so hot that the rounds ignite from the heat of the chamber, usually only stopping once the magazine is empty. This upper prevents that from happening because it is open bolt.
well that's a first for me. learned something new. thanks for the explanation.
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Great-Kazoo
04-23-2018, 20:06
Is he though? How long does it take a person to acquire a collection like that? Especially in New York? My impression (based on almost nothing) is that this guy has been laying low for a long time.
Depending when he started Every oen of those guns was available up till the 90's. He's going to have more of an issue with the Uzi (federal charge) and all the AR's as they're banned in NYC.
However that isn't as bad as CA's latest attack on firearms. Specifically parts and possibly accessories
SACRAMENTO, CA (April 6, 2018) Firearms Policy Coalition today announced that it had acquired new "mock-up" language for California Assembly Bill 2382 (AB 2382), currently a bill authored by Asm. Mike Gipson (D - Carson) to expand the definition of "firearm" and "receiver," that would enact a radical and far-reaching new regulatory scheme by treating non-firearm parts, components, and even some raw materials in a virtually-identical manner as Gavin Newsom's Proposition 63 and Senator Kevin de Leon's SB 1235 (2016) did with ammunition.
Depending when he started Every oen of those guns was available up till the 90's. He's going to have more of an issue with the Uzi (federal charge) and all the AR's as they're banned in NYC.
However that isn't as bad as CA's latest attack on firearms. Specifically parts and possibly accessories
SACRAMENTO, CA (April 6, 2018) Firearms Policy Coalition today announced that it had acquired new "mock-up" language for California Assembly Bill 2382 (AB 2382), currently a bill authored by Asm. Mike Gipson (D - Carson) to expand the definition of "firearm" and "receiver," that would enact a radical and far-reaching new regulatory scheme by treating non-firearm parts, components, and even some raw materials in a virtually-identical manner as Gavin Newsom's Proposition 63 and Senator Kevin de Leon's SB 1235 (2016) did with ammunition.
Yep. California has all kinds of trouble. The gun laws are going to make it a hassle for any new gun owners. California is leading the way in worst quality of life. Guns are not their biggest problem. Gavin Newsom was interviewed by Adam Carolla a few years back. Good fun. Newsom is a dirtbag. Also seem to be some talk about wanting to split up California into thirds. Seem a few people are close to their limit
Wow, this poor bastard is basically the same as all of us. He’s gonna go to jail because of his location in the USA.
The UZI might have the display barrel in it. [panic]
Jeffrey Lebowski
04-25-2018, 06:22
Wow, this poor bastard is basically the same as all of us. He’s gonna go to jail because of his location in the USA.
If he had the means and resources to acquire all that over time, he could certainly have relocated / obtained a vacation home somewhere, etc. It is complete BS he'd have to, but it might have saved him.
wctriumph
04-25-2018, 06:35
If they really did find cocaine on him, he was probably trading cocaine for firearms. It would not take long to acquire a large amount of firearms by trading drugs. The junkies would line up around the block to trade guns for drugs.
Well yeah, outside of the cocaine he’s basically the same as all of us. Or not. Going by the presented information at this time no sympathy from me.
Ok so let’s even say there is no coke, no one forced this guy to live in NYC, he knew the rules, might not like them but still got to play by them.
It's too bad that Paul Harvey died, because I'd still like to know the rest of the story.
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Great-Kazoo
04-25-2018, 08:27
Well yeah, outside of the cocaine he’s basically the same as all of us. Or not. Going by the presented information at this time no sympathy from me.
Ok so let’s even say there is no coke, no one forced this guy to live in NYC, he knew the rules, might not like them but still got to play by them.
A few people i know of (hypothetically) have Penn. mailing address where they store their guns. Because they do have the money and intelligence to store common use items out of the area.
And those are smart people! I may or may not know others who do the same.
That's a collectors collection. Not a single one of those guns came from a junkie. I'd have an easier time believing that the cops planted the coke than that he was trading junkies for guns. Maybe someone higher up in the food chain of a drug business though.
Great-Kazoo
04-25-2018, 10:30
That's a collectors collection. Not a single one of those guns came from a junkie. I'd have an easier time believing that the cops planted the coke than that he was trading junkies for guns. Maybe someone higher up in the food chain of a drug business though.
You'd be surprised what floats around the darker side of society.
I don't see a single monkey paw.
CoGirl303
04-27-2018, 07:41
Wow, this poor bastard is basically the same as all of us. He’s gonna go to jail because of his location in the USA.
The UZI might have the display barrel in it. [panic]
I agree with this comment. Firearms laws need to be uniform nationwide.
I don't understand how Cali and NY and NJ get away with the majority of their gun laws.
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Umm, guy’s got prior arrests-most recent was in September when he got in a car accident, tried to hand off his handgun (unlicensed-i don’t like NYC law but it’s part of the game) to an emt to hide it who wisely declined. Again no sympathy for this chump, not a good rep for responsible gun owners. Stupid should hurt. And let’s not forget about the coke, screw him.
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