Fair market value CMP M1911??? [Archive] - Colorado AR-15 Shooters Club Discussion Forums

DocMedic

05-09-2018, 14:28

My ass....

CMP 1911 PRICING:
CMP has priced the 1911 type pistols at fair market value in accordance with CMP's enabling legislation.

Service Grade $1050. Pistol may exhibit minor pitting and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition.

Field Grade $950. Pistol may exhibit minor rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition.

Rack Grade $850. Pistol will exhibit rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips may be incomplete and exhibit cracks. Pistol requires minor work to return to issuable condition.

Auction Grade (Sales will to be determined by auctioning the pistol). The condition of the auction pistol will be described when posted for auction. Note: If you have already purchased a 1911 from CMP you will not be allowed to purchase an auction 1911. If you purchase an auction 1911, your name will be pulled from the sequenced list. No repeat purchasers are allowed until all orders received have been filled.

Little Dutch

05-09-2018, 14:41

I would like one, and have considered a purchase even at those prices. The Two (2) required background checks is irritating, and almost enough to put me off. Add to that the mail-order only mandate, and the random number generator to decide who gets one, and I think I'm out.

https://taskandpurpose.com/m1911-pistols-cmp-sale-details/ (https://www.tactical-life.com/news/cmp-surplus-1911-pistols/)

CHA-LEE

05-09-2018, 14:50

Why would people pay a premium for these beat up 1911's? Nostalgia?

hurley842002

05-09-2018, 14:55

Nostalgia?

Only reason I can think of. My buddy just sent me the link for these, he's planning on getting a "field grade", I'll pass.

CHA-LEE

05-09-2018, 14:58

I wonder how much tax payer money they are wasting trying to "sell" those guns.

Bailey Guns

05-09-2018, 15:25

Where are you guys buying USGI 1911s for prices less than what the CMP is planning to charge? And how do you figure tax-payer money is being wasted by selling them?

Every CMP gun I've ever seen has been better than the standard description from the CMP for any specific grade.

I'm trying to figure out why all the hate for the CMP over these guns? Maybe I'm missing something.

rondog

05-09-2018, 15:46

Wolfshoon

05-09-2018, 15:48

Would you have rather had them cut up and melted down? That is what the previous administration wanted to happen. I don't see this as a waste of taxpayer money at all, in fact I see it as one of the better uses of my taxes. Wish there were more programs like this and less "entitlement programs".

Many CMP buyers are collectors looking for pieces with history, verifiable or not.

Plus, if history is any indicator, CMP guns are usually a good buy. I regret not getting in on either the Kimber .22 sales or the Remington 40x sales of the training rifles, stupid cheap compared to what they go for today.

With that said, I'd rather buy a new Dan Wesson 1911 instead of this deal as they seem a tad overpriced.

hurley842002

05-09-2018, 16:03

For the record, I have no issue with the CMP or even the prices they set on these 1911's, I'm just not interested in paying them.

hatidua

05-09-2018, 16:32

Anyone buying one of these had best be in the mindset of buying history.

Bailey Guns

05-09-2018, 16:35

For the record, I have no issue with the CMP or even the prices they set on these 1911's, I'm just not interested in paying them.

I get that, for sure. They might not be for everyone.

But to call these guns "beat up" and priced at a "premium" and a waste of taxpayer money to be sold by CMP is a stretch to say the least. Especially since no one outside of a few people at CMP have even seen them.

I'll most likely throw my hat, and money, into the ring for a service grade gun and see what happens. In my experience of buying several CMP Garands the rating criteria has always sounded far worse than the guns actually are. Every Garand I've received has been far better than the grading description would lead you to believe.

Bailey Guns

05-09-2018, 16:39

On second thought, you guys go ahead and trash on the CMP 1911s. Talk as many people out of buying them as you can. Post negative stuff about them on all forums you frequent. Tell your friends and neighbors to stay away from these overpriced, over-hyped guns.

CHA-LEE

05-09-2018, 16:59

With 90,000 of them to be sold I don't think you will have a problem getting as many as you want.

You think the Government hasn't wasted a metric shit ton of money coordinating this sale, maintaining those firearms, or whatever else? When the government gets involved in anything they spend way more money than they should.

Given that we as tax payers have already paid for these guns (not to mention all the ammo shot through them) and they have already been depreciated to $0 in serviceable value why not do a lottery and give them out for free to upstanding Americans?

bryjcom

05-09-2018, 17:10

I think why most people are bitching is because the CMP was given these for free. I understand there are overhead costs but they're getting FREE guns..... And the CMP is a non profit org.

On top of that, the reason why the market is so high on UGSI 1911s is because there are relatively few of them in circulation. That's all about to change over the next 7 years with 75,000 units being put out on the market.

There's a reason for mass outrage at the CMP over the prices of these pistols. I have the feeling its just them trying to preserve the net worth of their personal collections.

wctriumph

05-09-2018, 17:53

I'm going to try for a service grade when the time comes.

As far as the cost to the CMP, the guns may be transferred at little to no cost (I wonder who is paying the trucking companies to ship the guns from the gov to the CMP?) but the CMP had to build a special storage facility to be able to get the guns. That could not have been cheap. And the guys and gals that work at the CMP that will receive, check over every gun, sort, classify and catalog every serial number don't work for free.

Ridge

05-09-2018, 18:15

Meh, I'll buy two Rock Island 1911s for the cost of one of these.

waffles

05-09-2018, 18:31

I'll be going for one. Much less than the price of most surplus 1911s, and pretty damn fair. I was expecting higher.

Also, let's remember the CMP's mission (posted below) is not to give dirt cheap 1911s/Garands/whatever to Americans as their birthright, but rather to support shooting/marksmanship activities.

The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a national organization dedicated to training and educating U. S. citizens in responsible uses of firearms and airguns through gun safety training, marksmanship training and competitions. The CMP is a federally chartered 501(c)(3) corporation that places its highest priority on serving youth through gun safety and marksmanship activities that encourage personal growth and build life skills.

Scanker19

05-09-2018, 18:34

I get that, for sure. They might not be for everyone.

But to call these guns "beat up" and priced at a "premium" and a waste of taxpayer money to be sold by CMP is a stretch to say the least. Especially since no one outside of a few people at CMP have even seen them.

I'll most likely throw my hat, and money, into the ring for a service grade gun and see what happens. In my experience of buying several CMP Garands the rating criteria has always sounded far worse than the guns actually are. Every Garand I've received has been far better than the grading description would lead you to believe.

+1 CMP has always had a under-promise over-deliver mindset. $1050 for a service grade USGI 1911? Where are they being sold for less? Because y’all should buy them enmass. I’d be willing to bet that the service grade pistols are going to be immaculate. Not perfect nor corrrect but good collectors. Espically when the low end price for a USGI 1911 is about $1100 for a shot out gun with little to no park left.

But as Bailey said, please tell your friends how shitty they are and discourage them.

Also taxes will be used to transfer these to the cmp or put them in captain crunch. At least this way the CMP will use the profits to do something with I forget what they do, probably something stupid...

The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a national organization dedicated to training and educating U. S. citizens in responsible uses of firearms and airguns through gun safety training, marksmanship training and competitions.

Or maybe not...

Scanker19

05-09-2018, 18:36

BPTactical

05-09-2018, 18:51

Want a pistol that may have been at Belleau Wood, Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Normandy, Bastogne, Chosin Reservoir, Khe Sanh, Pleiku?

Shut up and pay the money.

Bailey Guns

05-09-2018, 18:52

^^ That's how I see it.

Ridge

05-09-2018, 19:01

but the CMP had to build a special storage facility to be able to get the guns. That could not have been cheap.

According to this article (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/12/08/how-much-will-cmp-1911-pistols-cost/), it costs the Army $200k a year for the storage. It also says they'll release 10,000 a year, so 9 years of storage at $200k comes to $1.8mil. Assuming every single one of those were Rack Grade at $850 (unlikely), they are looking at $8.5 million per year, more than 5 and a half times the storage cost.

And the guys and gals that work at the CMP that will receive, check over every gun, sort, classify and catalog every serial number don't work for free.

With an estimated profit of $7 million per year, those are some highly paid folks for disassembling such a basic firearm.

bczandm

05-09-2018, 19:26

With 90,000 of them to be sold I don't think you will have a problem getting as many as you want.

With only 8,000 this year and 10,000 per year in future years it will have no measurable impact on the supply or availability. These will be sold out in in a day, likely in a few hours. Last year CMP had several thousand M1 Carbines to sell and all were sold out in a couple of hours. Good luck getting one, I'd bet the chances are 1 in 20 or 1 in 30 that you can get one.

Bailey Guns

05-09-2018, 20:22

According to this article (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/12/08/how-much-will-cmp-1911-pistols-cost/), it costs the Army $200k a year for the storage. It also says they'll release 10,000 a year, so 9 years of storage at $200k comes to $1.8mil. Assuming every single one of those were Rack Grade at $850 (unlikely), they are looking at $8.5 million per year, more than 5 and a half times the storage cost.

With an estimated profit of $7 million per year, those are some highly paid folks for disassembling such a basic firearm.

And what about the previous 3 to 5 decades of storage and storage beyond the 9 years during which the guns will be sold? In the grand scheme, the money isn't a large amount. It's not gonna pay off the national debt and it's not gonna be an expense that's probably on anyone's radar.

Ridge

05-09-2018, 20:31

And what about the previous 3 to 5 decades of storage and storage beyond the 9 years during which the guns will be sold? In the grand scheme, the money isn't a large amount. It's not gonna pay off the national debt and it's not gonna be an expense that's probably on anyone's radar.

The CMP isn't paying the Army's storage fees.

Big E3

05-09-2018, 20:50

Chaffee2

05-09-2018, 21:02

The only thing I'm concerned about is us older farts. If my luck holds like normal I'll be in my late 60s before I get one. I've never gotten a bad rifle from the CMP and I would expect the 1911 is going to be the same.

bczandm

05-09-2018, 21:09

I will be trying for a service grade just to hand to my dad and ask him if he thinks it’s the one he carried in Italy during WWII. I want to see if his face lights up just a little, that will be worth the price I pay.

I bought my dad a M1 Carbine, this is his photo during WWII. In his 80's he could shoot better than I could in my 50's. The Army taught him well. Enjoy your dad while you can, my is gone and we sure do miss him!
74692

Bailey Guns

05-09-2018, 22:01

The CMP isn't paying the Army's storage fees.

Well that's what you're comparing to the total yearly sales price. Regardless, we're talking about cost to taxpayers. Taxpayers either pay to continue to store them indefinitely or the CMP sells them and makes a small profit. Obviously the smart thing to do from a financial standpoint is sell them.

spqrzilla

05-09-2018, 22:36

The CMP is doling these out to get funding for their actual mission going forward, especially since their stock of M1 Garands is getting thin.

But if anyone truly thinks that these are not "market value", then they should find someone to cover a bet that the pistols don't sell out.

If anyone was really confident in such a bold opinion....

Grant H.

05-09-2018, 23:33

Want a pistol that may have been at Belleau Wood, Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Normandy, Bastogne, Chosin Reservoir, Khe Sanh, Pleiku?

Shut up and pay the money.

This would be the only reason to buy these.

Personally, I see no value in buying one of these for "historical" purposes...

Good luck to all who decide to put in for one!

rondog

05-09-2018, 23:40

A friend of mine said he wanted to show me "his grandpa's old Army pistol", and pulled out a WWI vintage Colt M1911 in outstanding condition, although it had rubber target grips on it. He didn't know what it really was, so I filled him in and helped date it by s/n. I mentioned it was a shame it didn't have the original walnut stocks, and then he reached back in the drawer and said "these things?" Sure enough.

I'd consider that pistol to be priceless!

Grant H.

05-09-2018, 23:40

It also annoys me that the CMP is so tight lipped about their financials.

When you are a .gov protected/coddled/fed monopoly, that claims to be a Not-For-Profit, you should be required to be transparent in your financials...

Grant H.

05-09-2018, 23:42

Bailey Guns

05-10-2018, 06:31

Hoser

05-10-2018, 06:37

The prices that the CMP is charging is under fair market value for a real GI 1911 or 1911A1.

If your into original 1911s, its a good deal. If you just want a 1911 plinker, go somewhere else.

roberth

05-10-2018, 06:49

Want a pistol that may have been at Belleau Wood, Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Normandy, Bastogne, Chosin Reservoir, Khe Sanh, Pleiku?

Shut up and pay the money.

^^ That's how I see it.

Exactly.

Just thinking about the history makes me want to try for one.

Imagine the unlikely event of someone knowing the s/n of the gun his grandfather or father carried at one of the battles Bert mentioned and then being able to acquire that same gun. HOLY COW, I just can't imagine that feeling.

Scanker19

05-10-2018, 07:46

I don’t understand the hate the CMP is getting in this thread. It’s like some of you walked in on the CMP and your mom while your dad was at work. Maybe I missed something? Just the fact we’re able to get these transferred to the CMP, and under Obama of all things, is nothing short of amazing. I wish I could buy two because I would. I’d like to get a colt and a Remington Rand.

beast556

05-10-2018, 09:25

I'm not a 1911 fan, with that said I would love to be able to get one of these pistols. From what I'm seeing they look very reasonably priced. Wish I had the spare funds.

MarkCO

05-10-2018, 09:47

For the record, I have no issue with the CMP or even the prices they set on these 1911's, I'm just not interested in paying them.

Exactly. The more money they raise, the sooner they build another CMP Shooting Park. Win-Win.

mb504

05-10-2018, 11:16

It would be cool if you could enter a requested S/N and get the actual gun your father/grandfather/great-grandfather carried.

Gman

05-10-2018, 14:39

It would be cool if you could enter a requested S/N and get the actual gun your father/grandfather/great-grandfather carried.
I guess the Army hung onto the 1911s. My dad has my grandfather's Colt M1917 from WWI.

roberth

05-10-2018, 15:00

I guess the Army hung onto the 1911s. My dad has my grandfather's Colt M1917 from WWI.

Oh wow!! I had a S&W 1917 for a few years, cool revolver.

wctriumph

05-10-2018, 15:53

My service grade M1 Carbine I got in the recent CMP sale was way better than the service grade description. I have purchased other surplus items from the CMP and have been completely happy with the overall condition, better than a grade one surplus item I ordered from MidwayUSA.

The only problem I see will be if I get a service grade and it dates to WWI, I'll have to start looking for WWI rifles too. That will really start getting expensive.

Del_Gue

05-10-2018, 21:34

When they were selling the M1 carbines a few years ago (mid-2000’s), I got 1 from each manufacturer (except IP and CC). They are all worth much more than what I paid for them, and they won’t be selling any more of them (except thru the auction). I got a collection of CMP 1903’s, 03-A3s and an M1917, and they are all out of those, too. I scraped hard to find the money to buy these when they were available, and I’m very glad I did.

Aloha_Shooter

05-10-2018, 22:13

The problem is that until now, "US Government Property"-marked 1911s have been scarce enough that the prices listed are on the generous (to buyer) side of fair market value, even knowing these will be mixmasters. At 1000/yr max release (800 for this first year), that's still FMV. I paid $600 17 years ago for a USGI Remington Rand but it had been refinished by the idiot prior owner so lost most of its value as a collector.

Ah Pook

05-11-2018, 21:59

For the historical significance, I’d say they are cheap.

I might pick one up down the road.

Scanker19

05-11-2018, 22:14

The price of Garlands and Carbines hasn’t dropped in fact it’s the opposite. I’d imagine the will happen to the 1911s as well

bryjcom

05-11-2018, 23:33

DenverGP

05-12-2018, 09:50

I had heard they're letting 10K a year go.

They're getting something like 75,000 of them total.

Yeah, his numbers are off.... it's 8k this year, and up to 10k a year after this.

While the National Defense Authorization Act granted transfer of a maximum of 10,000 1911s per year to the CMP, the Secretary of the Army allowed only 8,000 1911s to be transferred to the CMP for sale and distribution this fiscal year.

Bailey Guns

09-11-2018, 16:52

I sent my order packet in today. Oct 4 is the deadline...your order must be postmarked by then if you want a chance to get one of these from the first group released.

Skip

09-11-2018, 17:04

I sent my order packet in today. Oct 4 is the deadline...your order must be postmarked by then if you want a chance to get one of these from the first group released.

Fingers crossed for you Bailey!!! Keep us updated.

I've decided to sit this one out. The M1 Carbine lottery was disappointing and I found a M1911A1 in collectable condition and bought it.

I am very curious to see what people get though. Either way, these guns are going to have some history on them, some maybe three wars!

Bailey Guns

09-11-2018, 17:09

I figured my chances are slim and none. But I've had very good luck with CMP Garands. I'm hoping if hell freezes over and my number gets picked I'll get a nice one. Who knows?

Skip

09-11-2018, 17:14

I figured my chances are slim and none. But I've had very good luck with CMP Garands. I'm hoping if hell freezes over and my number gets picked I'll get a nice one. Who knows?

The way M1911 prices have been going, I don't think you can do wrong for $1K if you get picked. Solid shooters are going for at least that much and these will have history. If you get something you hate, put it on GB.

And if you swing and miss, at least you tried. 8K is better odds than the M1 Carbine lottery.

I just reviewed their site and along with limited to one, they are pulling auction buyers from the list! So they are really protecting the lottery.

Bailey Guns

09-11-2018, 17:30

Yep. Lifetime limit of one for each person picked...that includes those bought at auction. Saw that.

A lot of people complaining about the paperwork and prices. The application took me 10 mins to put together aside from the time it took to get the form notarized at my bank. And I don't think the prices are bad at all.

Gman

09-11-2018, 18:26

Best of luck BG!

wctriumph

09-11-2018, 18:28

Good luck BG! I decided to sit the first chance out as my funds are on the skinny side right now.

Bailey Guns

09-11-2018, 19:08

Good luck BG! I decided to sit the first chance out as my funds are on the skinny side right now.

Yeah, I get that. I have to figure out what to sell on the off chance I have to pay for one.

Aloha_Shooter

09-11-2018, 19:38

Yep. Lifetime limit of one for each person picked...that includes those bought at auction.

Of course, there used to be a lifetime limit of 1 Garand per person too ... and that went by the wayside so there's always a possibility the limit will be raised in the future.

Scanker19

09-11-2018, 20:11

I sent mine in Thursday. I wish they’d tell us what number we were but it sounds like no packets are getting opened until the number comes up? Oh well a good chance to get a decent 1911. Some are Anniston depot fresh.

Skip

09-12-2018, 08:33

Of course, there used to be a lifetime limit of 1 Garand per person too ... and that went by the wayside so there's always a possibility the limit will be raised in the future.

What kind of a jackwagon needs more than one M1911?

https://imgur.com/16m3KMP.jpg

Aloha_Shooter

09-12-2018, 11:28

What kind of a jackwagon needs more than one M1911?

Me.

wctriumph

09-12-2018, 16:06

Me too, one for each hand and one for each family member.

Bailey Guns

11-06-2018, 08:26

Update from CMP: They received about 19000 packets...I thought it would've been a lot more. They're assigned the random numbers that have been generated to the packets. They're saying it may take 30-60 days to notify the "winners".

1911 UPDATE - NOVEMBER 6TH

Our Random Number Generator (RNG) has selected random numbers for all the packets received. We are working on assigning those random numbers to the 19,000 packets we have received. This will take some time - PLEASE BE PATIENT! It may take 30-60 days to inform you of your random number. Please DO NOT CONTACT US ASKING WHAT YOUR NUMBER IS.

As we process orders, we will call customers as we work through the list.

**If your information has changed (you have moved or your FFL has gone out of business), please DO NOT CONTACT US. You may update us when your number is selected and we contact you.

Skip

11-06-2018, 10:10

Update from CMP: They received about 19000 packets...I thought it would've been a lot more. They're assigned the random numbers that have been generated to the packets. They're saying it may take 30-60 days to notify the "winners".

8:19, slightly worse than 50/50, but still good odds.

Can't wait to see what hits the auction site. That will be a good indication of top condition guns from the lot.

def90

11-06-2018, 15:15

From what I can tell based on what they have posted about the 1911s so far is that you only put a packet in once. Each year they get an allotment of 1911s. All the packets basically get put in line and if you don't get in this years cutoff you are automatically in next years draw in the order that you are in now. So if I have read everything that they have posted correctly if you don't get one this year you will pretty much get one next year. You are only allowed 1 1911 until a point in time that all of the people that have submitted a packet have received one so there will not be anyone buying up a bunch and reselling them online.

I think the prices are good, where else can you get a Gov issued 1911 at those prices that hasn't been dicked with by a dozen previous owners? As well as based on their grading of their M1s I think the service grade 1911s will likely be in pretty nice shape. I'm in for a service grade, the only issue is what to do if I get drawn late in the round and there is nothing left but rack grades?

From the CMP:
"The Random Number Generator will provide a list of names in sequential order through the random picking process. Customers will be contacted in the sequence provided by the Random Number Generator. The CMP 1911 customers will select their grade of pistol (Service, Field or Rack) from available inventory at the time of order notification. Customers with higher numbers may have fewer grades from which to choose. When this year?s allotment of 1911s is exhausted, the remaining orders will be held in the existing sequence for all future allotments of 1911s. The CMP does not know what future allotments might be."

^^ Basically, if you are not drawn this year you will pretty much get one next year.

def90

11-06-2018, 15:28

Here is a good article from American Rifleman:

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2018/5/22/the-cmp-m1911s-the-inside-story/

A small number of them came from the Army Museum System and it is stated that most of these will be the auction 1911s. Most of them have the original factory finish.

The Museum 1911s:

https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3148188/cmp_18img_0160.jpg?width=507&height=338

The rest/majority of them came from the Defense Logistics Agency warehouse, went through ANAD between 1978 and 1982 and have been stored ever since.

Boxed up ANAD rebuild 1911s:

https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3148180/cmp_08img_0139.jpg?width=509&height=339

This is an example of a service grade 1911.. Ithaca produced in 1945 and went through an ANAD rebuild in 1978

https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3148181/cmp_09img_0131.jpg?width=490&height=276

https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3148182/cmp_10img_0138.jpg?width=491&height=277

https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3148184/cmp_12img_0136.jpg?width=496&height=280

https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3148185/cmp_14img_0206.jpg?width=499&height=281

This will be one of the auction 1911 that came from the museum warehouse, it is a Remington/UMC.

https://assets.americanrifleman.org/media/3148191/cmp_21img_7236.jpg?width=515&height=290

Bailey Guns

11-06-2018, 16:03

8:19, slightly worse than 50/50, but still good odds.

That's what I thought...a little better than 4 in 10 chance.

I really thought there would be 100s of thousands of applicants. At least 2 or 3 hundred thousand. I'm pleasantly surprised. I bet if the guns turn out to be in better shape than what a lot of people are saying (and I personally think they will be) the naysayers will start to turn in their packets.

Bailey Guns

11-06-2018, 16:04

Here is a good article from American Rifleman:

I read that. Good info in that article.

def90

11-06-2018, 17:53

Thinking about the article above and that if the majority of the 1911s came from the depot and they have all been stored since refurb they should all generally be service grade I would think.

As far as how many 1911s there are the legislation that opened these up says that the army must release no less than 8000 and no more than 10000 each year until the reserves are used up.

Skip

11-06-2018, 18:03

I read that. Good info in that article.

+1, that was good, thanks def90!

I'm looking at those pics and thinking of the collectability forgetting that these were rebuilt to be serviceable weapons. Lots of history there! Will be really cool to see what people get.

Ithaca M1911A1 S/N 2088647 and its box. This pistol was rebuilt at Anniston Army Depot in June 1978 and it is an example of the overall condition that the Service Grade CMP M1911A1s will present.

Shipped 1944 in a batch of 59,300. Can you imagine!

The "X" marked frames are interesting too, and will fun to see what they get at auction. Been seeing these off and on over the years. They are viewed skeptically because anyone can make one that is indistinguishable from a genuine collectable M1911. I would rather have a full serial, even if arsenal rebuilt, that goes back to a ship date/batch.

Gman

11-06-2018, 20:31

Blockhead

11-08-2018, 14:56

I put in, but haven't heard anything yet. I can guarantee that these pistols will be worth more than what CMP is selling them for. These are not intended for someone who just wants a shooter 1911.

Scanker19

11-08-2018, 15:29

I’m hoping for about a 3000 area number.

Bailey Guns

11-08-2018, 17:25

So, what number did you get? [Coffee]

Trust me...I'm anxiously awaiting the results.

Gman

11-08-2018, 18:16

Trust me...I'm anxiously awaiting the results.

You haven't called to ask them about your number?

Oh, yeah. You can read, comprehend, and follow instructions. I was just being a smart aleck.

Skip

11-08-2018, 19:53

You haven't called to ask them about your number?

Oh, yeah. You can read, comprehend, and follow instructions. I was just being a smart aleck.

You need to call daily to increase your odds ;)

(this is a joke)

With the M1 Carbine lottery people actually did this. I got good info just by watching the CMP forums and it was cool to see the guns people were getting at the same time.

Bailey Guns

12-01-2018, 16:22

Looks like they started number notifications by email back in early Nov. According to the CMP1911 forum they're up to about #2800 give or take as of yesterday. Latest post on 11/30 guy said he was #2774.

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=236429&page=7

I haven't seen anything but still have my fingers crossed. Some guys are saying they've received shipping notifications already. Bastards...

Check that...just went back to the forum and several guys have already received their guns. Most of them look to be in great condition.

Bailey Guns

03-07-2019, 10:35

Well, finally heard from CMP. My randomly generated number is 15760. Obviously won't be getting anything from the first batch. This is the email I received:

This email is to notify you that your order has been received and you have been assigned a number through the random number generating process. You will find your number listed below. At this time, we do not have enough 1911 type pistols to complete your order. Should the Army send us another shipment of sufficient quantity, we will use those 1911 type pistols to fill the next orders in line. Please do not contact us or reply to this email at this time.

Your generated number: 15760

Thanks,
CMP 1911 Program

Maybe next year.

Skip

03-07-2019, 14:01

Dammit! Sorry to hear this but yes, always next year.

Or you could scoop one up from a private seller. That's the route I went when I missed out on the M1 Carbines. Happy I did, everyone loves to shoot that gun!

Blockhead

03-07-2019, 14:52

I got my number some time ago and it looks like I'll make the cut for the first batch: 4199. Expect to get a call within a month if CMP keeps moving as they have.

Bailey Guns

03-07-2019, 16:28

^^ Good for you! That's awesome. There are some good looking guns coming out of this first batch.

Skip

03-08-2019, 09:06

You OWE us pics as soon as you sign for it!!!

Bailey Guns

03-08-2019, 09:29

IF I ever get one.

Scanker19

03-08-2019, 12:44

I got 8808. I wish we could sell trade numbers hahaha.

MrWhiteRabbit

03-08-2019, 22:41

I'm in the 18,000s. Wanna trade numbers? :)

Bailey Guns

03-09-2019, 10:01

I got 8808. I wish we could sell trade numbers hahaha.

So close...

Scanker19

03-09-2019, 17:00

I want a field grade. I don’t think I’d want one with those 80s replacement slides

bobbyfairbanks

03-09-2019, 17:36

Anyone buying one of these had best be in the mindset of buying history.

No shit. That?s all your getting.

Bailey Guns

03-09-2019, 18:08

No shit. That?s all your getting.

I don't think that's true at all.

bobbyfairbanks

03-09-2019, 18:30

I don't think that's true at all.

Ok well you rock on with your rattle can 1911. I?ll shoot something good. But if you want history buy a Old loose as snot 1911. I?m not gonna argue with you bailey. Some know what the goods are and others argue.

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Bailey Guns

03-09-2019, 19:05

I didn't realize you'd seen all the guns coming out of the first batch of CMP pistols. Regardless, the prices are very good for what you're getting.

And frankly, I've never had a wartime 1911 that didn't shoot well and I've had lots. (...deleted...that was just antagonistic)

If you don't recognize the value of "the goods" in this photo, that's unfortunate. It hardly looks like a "loose as snot" rattle can. It may not be your cup of tea, and that's fine. But to say there's no value in a gun like that other than history is just silly.

ETA: By all means, not all of the guns look like this one. But every single one I've seen looks pretty darn good.

https://i.imgur.com/WGFqMkx.jpg

bobbyfairbanks

03-09-2019, 19:25

Yup your right I can?t shoot. Don?t care. They are history. Plan and simple. Shot a shit ton of those in the military and there was a reason we turned them back in and went back to a M9 then to a Glock. Not gonna waste my time with you anymore. They are beautiful history. But history they are.

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Bailey Guns

03-09-2019, 19:27

There are lots of legitimate things to complain about with these old guns. Like the pretty horrible (by today's standards) sights, hammer bite, etc. There are plenty of legitimate things to like about them, too.

Bailey Guns

03-09-2019, 19:33

They were turned in because their useful lifespan as a military issue sidearm was over. They were turned in because the M9 became standard issue. They were turned in because the US wanted to standardize on the 9MM with the rest of NATO. I shot them in the military, too.

And I apologize for the phrase I deleted and admitted already it was purely antagonistic. I'm just trying to be objective about the guns that are being released by CMP.

ray1970

03-09-2019, 19:55

They were turned in because their useful lifespan as a military issue sidearm was over.

Not to be a stickler but isn?t that kind of agreeing with someone else?s statement about them pretty much being worn out?

Scanker19

03-09-2019, 20:55

Not to be a stickler but isn?t that kind of agreeing with someone else?s statement about them pretty much being worn out?

I think he means they obsolesced. They’re not “Loose” at least not the service grade ones. As I dated before some had their slide repacked by current (1980sat the time) slides and parts before they went into long term storage. They all gauge within servaice able and useable range fornissue to the military.

I also don’t understand why these are getting so much hate? No one complains about the Garands or Carbines, or mossberg .22s, or Kimber .22s. Is it the price? The process? The prices isn’t bad, don’t believe me check the collectors market. Are there cheaper ones? Yes but they are collectors items. The process was explained in simple English. It’s different as it’s a whole other department in the CMP wih different rules, set forth by congress, not CMP. It’s easy. Dont tlike then don’t buy one.

Bailey Guns

03-09-2019, 21:01

Not to be a stickler but isn?t that kind of agreeing with someone else?s statement about them pretty much being worn out?

Not at all. Tens of thousands of these guns will go on to reliably function and provide useful service to their new owners in various roles, just like the tens of thousands (or more) M1s, 03s, various military revolvers, etc, did. You could hardly say the M-14 was worn out after it's short lifespan as the main battle rifle but it was replaced, too. I'd venture a guess that pretty much every one of these 1911s will function quite well.

Bailey Guns

03-09-2019, 21:03

Dont tlike then don’t buy one.

Exactly. You don't have to like them or want one. But why make shit up about what they are and aren't?

Irving

03-09-2019, 21:17

I'm going to rebuild mine and shoot it then.

def90

03-10-2019, 08:06

Going back to post #67 all of the 1911s being sold directly (non auction) were referbished in 1978, packaged up in to crates and stored ever since. Not rattle ans and no need to rebuild.

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/168621-Fair-market-value-CMP-M1911?p=2171688&viewfull=1#post2171688

The ones being auctioned came from the Army museum system amd consist of rare/hard to find models.

Aloha_Shooter

03-10-2019, 09:42

Highest number I saw on the CMP Forums was 18999 and I still haven't got my RNGP yet.

Bailey Guns

03-10-2019, 10:27

^^ I was starting to think I screwed up my packet somehow and wasn't going to get a number. Be patient, I guess. They'll get there.

Bailey Guns

03-10-2019, 11:17

For the 1911 junkies, thought I'd share. No rebuild marks. All internal parts are correct/original as far as I can tell. Shipped to SA March 1918. I don't even remember where I got it.

Early 1918 Colt
https://i.imgur.com/JYEBRfk.jpg

def90

03-10-2019, 13:56

My RNG number is 11075, just got the email a week or two ago.

Bailey Guns

03-10-2019, 13:58

Nice. You'll definitely get one when the next batch is released.

Skip

03-10-2019, 14:42

[snip]

Early 1918 Colt

We need more 1911 appreciation. Let's do this!

Feb 1918 Brooklyn Navy Yard (last M1911 Navy contract)
https://imgur.com/Tg1yNVu.jpg
https://imgur.com/GYRnPtQ.jpg
https://imgur.com/qnV4Ezq.jpg

Here she is with her M1917 JMG inspected sister. Haven't quite figured out how to load these .45ACP revolvers. Mags don't fit!!!
https://imgur.com/FnWrXda.jpg

Ratty old M1911A1 1943 shipped GHD "S" marked. Looks like a repro but it's not. Paid way too much. POS barely shoots. Don't understand how they beat Hitler with this crap.
https://imgur.com/l9ThoVL.jpg

Bailey Guns

03-10-2019, 15:11

Damn, Skip... That's some nice hardware! I suspect a few forum members have some amazingly nice pieces. hope to see more here.

I do have this one, too, but it's obviously a repro. It's fun to fondle, though.

Remington UMC/Turnbull repro:
https://i.imgur.com/OgL3D2M.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8brKKl6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5fcIF5K.jpg

Irving

03-10-2019, 15:17

These nice guns make me appreciate my beat up war gun even more.

Bailey Guns

03-10-2019, 15:21

My old Colt from the first picture is pretty rough on the other side from poor storage. Rough and beat up is perfectly OK...I never worry about taking it out and shooting it.

Skip

03-10-2019, 16:06

Damn, Skip... That's some nice hardware! I suspect a few forum members have some amazingly nice pieces. hope to see more here.

I do have this one, too, but it's obviously a repro. It's fun to fondle, though.

Remington UMC/Turnbull repro:

drool

The blue on that repo is beautiful and you can shoot her!

My shooter is a Colt O1991 (sans plastic MSH)...

https://imgur.com/cWrsWlF.jpg

Hasn't had a hiccup that was its fault, I blame the cheap Colt factory mags. Bought some Mecgars that have run great and keep wondering if I should pick up some of the Wilson mags, but I don't shoot this gun enough to justify the $$$.

Need moar 1911 pics gents!!!

Bailey Guns

03-10-2019, 16:24

The rest of my 1911 herd:

https://i.imgur.com/Gc5XYmU.jpg

Aloha_Shooter

03-10-2019, 18:48

^^ I was starting to think I screwed up my packet somehow and wasn't going to get a number. Be patient, I guess. They'll get there.

Same but when I went through the thread, I was seeing a few guys with numbers below 10000 that just got their numbers last week. The thread has closed so the latest info in it was dated Mar 7.

Bailey Guns

03-10-2019, 21:03

Hasn't had a hiccup that was its fault, I blame the cheap Colt factory mags.

I've found the Kimber Tac-Mags and the McCormick PowerMags work best in mine. I love the Wilson mags but hate plastic followers. If they had a metal follower they'd be pretty much perfect.

Skip

03-11-2019, 08:40

I've found the Kimber Tac-Mags and the McCormick PowerMags work best in mine. I love the Wilson mags but hate plastic followers. If they had a metal follower they'd be pretty much perfect.

That's the funny thing about 1911 mags... There are gazillions of them and it's such a basic design, a decent one should be $7. But nope, you're spending $35+.

Blockhead

03-11-2019, 13:12

Plenty of reasons to buy guns, one of which is regular shooting. When I get my 1911 from CMP I'll shoot it, but I've got plenty of modern, less valuable, non-collectible guns that will I'll shoot far more regularly. And if anyone questions if these guns are worth what CMP is asking, all you need to do is attend auctions or look at Gunbroker to see that comparable USGI 1911s almost always sell for more.

wctriumph

03-11-2019, 17:25

My Colt. This is right after I bought it 2005. I took it to the range and put 200 rounds through it, had two FTF, no FTE. After that it has never malfunctioned, not once. It shoots to point of aim and while the trigger is nothing to write home about, it works fine for combat type training when at the range. I have had a few others before and since, I will keep my Colt. I have one Colt mag and three Wilson Combat, all work just fine. Round count is not much, maybe 3500.

10x

03-13-2019, 07:52

1911 is still my favorite handgun to shoot. You fellas have some nice examples.

roberth

03-13-2019, 10:47

I like 1911s too, the MC Operator is my favorite. I don't have any collectibles though, I do admire them at the Collector's Show in May.

77580

Bailey Guns

03-13-2019, 13:17

My Colt.

Nothing wrong with that. My wife bought me a blue enhanced Colt for Valentine's day one year. From Dave's Guns in Parker so it was a while back. Late 90s I believe.

Irving

03-13-2019, 13:33

Here is my friend's collectible 1911. I know nothing about it except that it's very gold, and very shiny.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pNtFtwibEcFZpoeetd8vHSjX92orIvAc3SGLjG0Fpcf3Uw3EhO IK6rZUHHH89JUSYG-IqZGv_S-h1dCBwSMkMWDWxUKDsmwLs5w1iwlvmefaJc-G8AJU3nisJaRgZfH0Yl-jlcbmyUE0466WUh2OEZAcOmQnzg26rNIfAzHhpyoKBpOXBAl6a oad65rt_aFcIV_AuC4qT2O_gzEAwU1pYqXb7UKrJcH62r79Qjj ACnrVOSxIS4qz9sHxGPR3p8H8e5ICMHKAySQwxiyEl1celR5Vh iFgS5f2CxS4pyvKfEPhG8dzTeXtehha0gAKL0ybkHJD-wEQ-9u6cFophcfYXb6Ob36C4X6pXC_LXthsOx2ovHH2o2WVUR1zfAs q3E8XFQoYBj90uGY3hhr9B2dl0XdsV4D7kf2d5rutu3-Wp0yqaDZXZRxV86UhizZAu4klDNS95MOJJrcfeG6OM32hgkQAK s5IVELn9JgHOmO7E-pQE432MQ8dWOCcy3ro7hSXzjcRPdBgvkqryGgAIuL1Jhbd6BsM m4Xteh_jgJAhjPciwLxMcTxVtekEuxgbdlxvJRvrIBAt2bq8U6-Ai7L_ws5d-GmGopeLKD9ERDHWKe5CCOSJ5TDqD2F5Hj4ohVZ7q8zMq9eHR8j NUltYq7guQBoF3q0-YLf8WINAeIWXhmD15gtHA8YJ9pFV8BeeL2N5M66C0j3JbV29UG 2xrcpz_yNfIg=w1024-h576-no

Blockhead

03-13-2019, 14:54

Here are my three. 1) Colt 1911 frame with WWII Ithaca slide, AA rebuild 2) WWII Ithaca 3) modern M45A1 with USMC provenance

https://i.imgur.com/ps7LKgRl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HqRDbJSl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QlcxoQil.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2mv29Bql.jpg

Bailey Guns

03-13-2019, 15:23

Nice! 3 different war-time periods represented right there.

That Tet gun is way outta my league.

Irving

03-13-2019, 16:25

Only took me an hour of looking. Here's my war bring back gun, I assume from Vietnam.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/iAuAhe8G2tLSZ3GvlOzXfc9b1c-WxbfL6T8sm53b7G0o4pX6B8UA_Wt3x2WiKTe4KfmLA6dNxH_ii kX1mXfNnn-6mIpazmeOynzh441C3IgrNc8g2Q7aVkPCGt63uCQZ6BPCgjWNA JoDXxQfy-tG3F4YV6N6A42V86zDSVtV2c6tIJLLNy8ONSuVLwrjw1lbjKxq Jvrl-jXkd2ChkOq4xRA0omGx3yUtXB_nlu-5BWHpgYjBrQd3OtH5cwPvoMDGG52EkxtAOm-ZhYPi1S5QWxp0Ge_ZnXVUsuqV1jsfQAtHw3uX2vta7u_q46_QO nzlZC-CmsxuNXWKremLE3OrkKTYK6VNVPa8L5_03LNSmmZ5p8rmDGNqB pXsw4T6ayWONv8wwI9H_TNNinoQuz3lHm8RkF-gi_Ty_tRQ5c7_GtWN8f0vAFmk-rmB5Re_QRiJdPdJGGxP2e3d48qytRDlgQIm2qHCO7B8fGeNtUK T0J6Qx5qXCDJgLT2NVs9e4SnTIUsq4R1CPwnEdfSTKHvPIuTXu djNtG66d2A0kd1k4S6my88ct662vN6yGvTBuQYuCdRYWb53QfQ rh7WVH8kFVAtwc0TR7_-aDvX2ae0skJ2xDa6SoiTCP_bDjehAffE4gcy-tjWirKEdymPkctTUTKlDML7ghrtp1H6w8CILmTV1dXqTM0pKpW 4ngp-Din1Vpi9VdQUSkIrKNEHNdLHQ4p14GQ=w1112-h625-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/T82OvgMzD08OXae-_KxrwapbPqqSVInI_33IXTnYfvpUnPon2eVVSc4HG2SJU--dCKR__0mf-sFU2gpm62dkk4gfnQ-5XfNwIhIeM-7X3W6zCrCU8Q3Hy6JBZjFwxqdb-j7VLTbRIRsHfeziXW6LFcGV1YMSeU_HiDiAeOdJw25YY5CJkm8 XP-ZogMh1ffwKGjNqtDgiLK7LFzFF9ZX5gX1nkK-938rhQDYuYk8iVJDwSdi5oVJmtvf0BabLbEbGXxC5uPuoW3rWi f0wIS26U3AUvnhKDW3COje7UCmfDmE9s0m2XjK4-BI-KaMD0gRaaxe_7YmdhZWpd4nQmPsv35z-HHuGAQ_pZBywcruASvd0FNFcRg_Dgxku2eCD8-rc8h2IxrtEApAoRhtRQLKbFcmmZx4OJB6_TCQYt5q4yVuFlDD3 TmOWKLxm7ENPLFXBYnSpMgKBeljNuKFBrNnZwm_VaWR1Mp77pH 4QpFOp0tRDISRKjegq7WZyPb-JZNGraqQzwfQLJrYLuLrB_C2aTlyxkp831jh8ZZa6NkdcpW7fZ D0g4fooleUd56awMyS1fVtCkvyLkSlkZBT1mJTwSv94RT_qsOq C6PgUiu2GpulCgg_zQXNJxKf5A73I10VRgg5bJaprxHeOjcxze hx0Y1DApVhtQcun6XjpadZ69m0PfsHaBEglXk4Q4gWvdfs27x7 ip5o718CogaJnbRKRi4gGnw=w1112-h625-no

ray1970

03-13-2019, 19:05

Only took me an hour of looking.

Sheesh. What? Do you have hundreds of handguns stashed in random places or something? Why did it take you an hour to find it?

Bailey Guns

03-13-2019, 20:10

I never know when to take him seriously.

Grant H.

03-13-2019, 20:18

What? Do you have hundreds of handguns stashed in random places or something?

You don't?

:D

Aren't you Tier 1?

Irving

03-13-2019, 20:40

Haha, you know I don't.

An hour of looking through a few years of photos.

Skip

03-15-2019, 08:32

Here are my three. 1) Colt 1911 frame with WWII Ithaca slide, AA rebuild 2) WWII Ithaca 3) modern M45A1 with USMC provenance

Very nice!!! Was briefly interested in an M45 but they are very collectible!

Only took me an hour of looking. Here's my war bring back gun, I assume from Vietnam.

With no rebuild marks (that I can see) that might be even more interesting. I thought most of the M1911A1s were rebuilt going into VN.

There are guys on the 1911 boards that know everything and could probably tell you.

Slides below Colt serial 11400001-1145000 should be stamped with the serial under the firing pin plate. Rebuilt guns are seldom numbers matching.

Irving

03-17-2019, 21:33

Very nice!!! Was briefly interested in an M45 but they are very collectible!

With no rebuild marks (that I can see) that might be even more interesting. I thought most of the M1911A1s were rebuilt going into VN.

There are guys on the 1911 boards that know everything and could probably tell you.

Slides below Colt serial 11400001-1145000 should be stamped with the serial under the firing pin plate. Rebuilt guns are seldom numbers matching.

I had to look up the number again, it is 164xxxx. Websites say 1944 production I guess.

Skip

03-20-2019, 12:09

I had to look up the number again, it is 164xxxx. Websites say 1944 production I guess.

Could be original then if there are no arsenal rebuild stamps and can't exclude mismatched parts.

Aloha_Shooter

08-08-2019, 00:23

Got a nice phone call this morning. At first, I was annoyed to get a call at 6 AM then I recognized the 256 area code. Sure enough, it was the CMP calling me before I went in to work. They found my packet (which I had thought was lost in the mail, turns out I sent it to the wrong CMP address) and were letting me know I was one of the lucky individuals selected to order one this year. They wanted to know what grade I wanted (service grade of course) and cautioned me that the order might be processed tomorrow, it might be processed next week, it might take 3 months. I told Tracy I was just happy to be having that phone call. Can't wait to see what war veteran I get ...

Bailey Guns

08-08-2019, 07:03

Good for you! You WILL have pictures, right?

Gman

08-08-2019, 07:14

[Awesom]..

Bailey Guns

08-08-2019, 08:47

Kinda pisses me off. My number's 15000+ and I even sent mine to the correct address. They should gimme your number.

[Coffee]

Skip

08-08-2019, 09:26

[dancing banana.jpg]

Post pics when you get her!!!!

wctriumph

08-08-2019, 09:31

Congrats!!!

Yes, we will all expect several detailed photographs!

Aloha_Shooter

08-08-2019, 15:35

The only regret is that after looking at some of the field grades on CMP's forums, I have the feeling I should have gone that route ... but the nice thing is that you know ANYthing you get from CMP is a veteran.

Scanker19

08-08-2019, 16:23

Did they tell you your number?

Aloha_Shooter

08-09-2019, 07:53

Good for you! You WILL have pictures, right?

Congrats!!!

Yes, we will all expect several detailed photographs!

I'll take pictures. Whether I post them or not ... ;-)

Kinda pisses me off. My number's 15000+ and I even sent mine to the correct address. They should gimme your number.

[Coffee]

It's funny ... I've found you're often better off if they feel like they screw up because they bend over backwards to fix the situation. There was a post on the CMP forums where one guy had several items dorked up on the one he received so after a lot of thought and consultation, he sent it back in, not knowing if he was going to get a replacement or a refund. From what he said afterward, he got an ultra-nice replacement.

Did they tell you your number?

No. To be honest, I didn't want to ask because I didn't want the answer to be that they bent the rules because they felt bad that my packet had been sitting at another desk since week 1 of applications being allowed. If I don't ask, they don't have to say anything, no one gets annoyed. Knowing the number only matters (to me) when waiting to be selected. Now that I've received the call and told them what I want ... I just want the call from Whistling Pines saying they have a package for me.

BladesNBarrels

08-09-2019, 10:55

I just want the call from Whistling Pines saying they have a package for me.

This is Joel Meyer and your room is ready!

https://www.seniorly.com/assisted-living/wisconsin/waupaca/whistling-pines-inc

Aloha_Shooter

08-19-2019, 16:40

CMP emailed me this morning to let me know it was going out via overnight FEDEX today. Will make a point of heading over to Whistling Pines tomorrow afternoon to pick it up ...

ChickNorris

08-19-2019, 17:04

CMP emailed me this morning to let me know it was going out via overnight FEDEX today. Will make a point of heading over to Whistling Pines tomorrow afternoon to pick it up ...

!

Bailey Guns

08-19-2019, 19:34

I expect pics to be posted from your phone while you're waiting for the BGC.

Gman

08-19-2019, 20:24

Sweet!

ChickNorris

08-21-2019, 15:07

wctriumph

08-21-2019, 15:52

Yes, well???

Irving

08-21-2019, 16:07

Was the market value fair?

Aloha_Shooter

08-21-2019, 23:31

Wasn't able to pick it up yesterday, got over to pick it up just before they closed. It's an Ithaca frame, SN 1875XXX, with a US&S slide.

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Irving

08-21-2019, 23:41

That looks pretty good. Are you happy with it so far?

Aloha_Shooter

08-21-2019, 23:48

Obviously haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but yep, very happy. Well worth the $1050 (plus CBI and transfer fees).

Gman

08-22-2019, 07:28

Nice pistol. Thanks for the pics!

ChickNorris

08-22-2019, 07:36

: )

Scanker19

08-22-2019, 08:53

My number is coming up soon. Part of me hopes they have some field grades. I’ve always like the field grades of their M1s and the 1911 have looked decent.

Aloha_Shooter

08-22-2019, 09:12

They seem to usually have field grades but sporadic selection on service grades. Reading their forums, it looked like members who got the call a week before and a week after me only got offered field or rack grade so I'm pretty happy with their service (but then, I always have been). Honestly, the pics people have been sharing of the field grades got me thinking I should have ordered one of those and saved $100 but I think you'll be happy with it no matter what.

Still don't know what my RGN was but if they used it for the order number, mine was in the very high 6000s.

Bailey Guns

08-22-2019, 12:29

Wow, AS, that's a nice gun! Very happy for you! Thanks for posting the pics.

Aloha_Shooter

09-02-2019, 12:36

Finally had time for a test firing. Nice tight lockup, ate every magazine I fed it without complaint. The pistol is more accurate than the shooter (although it has been a couple years since I went shooting handguns, the results -- especially the first couple of targets -- were an example of why I tell new shooters that we have to practice regularly).

Two targets from yesterday:
https://i.imgur.com/ZAYnU5c.jpg

For comparison, test shots from my Les Baer TRS (also yesterday):
https://i.imgur.com/oVBcqZC.jpg

No complaints from me.

Gman

09-02-2019, 18:32

Sweet!

Scanker19

09-17-2019, 21:26

waffles

09-28-2019, 07:39

So I got my 1911A1 this week. I like it. Remington rand slide and frame. Even says US Army on the frame :) Shoots real nice. My only “complaint” is the mag kind of sucks, but I can find USGI mags for about $12 at the shows.

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Does your mag have a letter on the top (toe protrusion) of the floorplate? Mine had no other markings on the floorplate, but has an S on the toe, indicating a Scovill production magazine, correct for a WW2 remington rand frame.

This is my CMP 1911, RR frame, Colt Slide, Colt barrel. I did notice the recoil spring was waaaaaay too light for standard 230gr ball, so I swapped it for a new Govt weight Wilson Combat spring and put the original spring in the hard case.

https://i.imgur.com/3Fzme9M.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/siFSUkK.jpg

wctriumph

10-01-2019, 13:43

That is awesome guys!!! I held off on submitting an order as I did not have the funds available. Perhaps when the next round of sales come around I will be in a better position.

Thanks for the photos and again awesome for you!!

.455_Hunter

10-01-2019, 14:41

Gunsport in Boulder has one on its Gunbroker account that has been bid-up to $1700.

def90

01-02-2020, 16:52

Based on my random number that was assigned to my packet I wasn't supposed to get one in the current draw but low and behold I got a phone call today saying I have a week to reply.. Looks like I'm getting one after all!

Now I just need to make sure my FFL is still around, haven't dealt with him in a couple years.

Bailey Guns

08-25-2020, 12:10

Outta the blue, got a call from the CMP store in Alabama. My 1911A1 is ready...just need to update a little paperwork. Excited!

Gman

08-25-2020, 16:53

Outta the blue, got a call from the CMP store in Alabama. My 1911A1 is ready...just need to update a little paperwork. Excited!

[Awesom]

Bailey Guns

09-05-2020, 12:35

Almost a 2 year wait but I finally have it in my hands. The CMP gods have smiled upon me!

Colt slide, Colt frame, looks like a new Colt GI barrel. Frame and slide do not match. Frame serial number dates it to 1945. I haven't looked up the slide SN but it's much earlier in the SN range. It's in excellent condition overall. Everything functions and safety checks as it should. Looks like it was arsenal rebuilt at the Anniston Army Depot in December of 1975. Aside from some dried grease (looks like brown spots) on the slide and around the mag release button it's exceptionally clean. It came with a MecGar magazine instead of a GI mag but that's no big deal.

For those naysayers...this is not a "shot out rattle trap". From what I've seen from others who've received these pistols it's just the opposite. These guns are basic, military models but they are good to go. I'm gonna head over to the range in a bit to try it out.

https://i.imgur.com/4Xkoyfj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JaobHTV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KKYM8qI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aOuA739.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4bRvl1U.jpg

Bailey Guns

09-05-2020, 12:50

Slide was made in 1943.

Bailey Guns

09-05-2020, 14:28

Put 100 rounds thru it. Only issue, aside from a bloody web of my right hand, was the very first round I tried to chamber failed to go completely into battery. A tap on the slide fixed that. No other failures. It probably is capable of better than what the picture shows but I haven't fired a round in over a year. Operator error.

https://i.imgur.com/vIOhoX3.jpg

flogger

09-05-2020, 17:46

That is sweeeee...eet! Congrats.

William

09-05-2020, 19:16

Very nice 1911!

def90

02-28-2021, 20:08

I got my field grade CMP 1911 a little over a year ago. It arrived with a 1943 Ithaca frame and commercial Colt slide. I recently bought an Ithaca slide off of a guy online and it arrived yesterday. Swapped the slide parts over today so now I have an Ithaca frame/slide. Next step is to replace the couple other later replacement parts with originals so that they better match. I've taken it out shooting a few times and it runs great, the mag that came with it is the only mag that has had any issues. Anyone that is poo-pooing these is missing out.

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