May You Live in Stupid, Corrupt and yet Fascinating Times

[roberth]

We've been lied to by the media all of our lives, many of us know it but many more are deliberately still in the dark. Here is a little article that contains a clip where a managing editor for a major magazine admits it.


Of all the things I could’ve written about, you may be surprised by today’s selection. It’s a clip many of you probably saw where Richard Stengel (who was Time Magazine’s managing editor from 2006-2013) admits he approves of government propagandizing its own citizens during a Council on Foreign Relations forum. Here’s the clip.


It remains amusing how mainstream journalists continue to blame the public for not believing them, rather than admitting they themselves created this environment of deep distrust by acting as salespeople for the status quo versus challenging the powerful like they’re supposed to.

https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2018/05/30/may-you-live-in-stupid-corrupt-and-yet-fascinating-times/

I watched the clip, the perfidy is on full display.

If we want the light we must seek it, else forever in darkness we will remain.

[Singlestack]

Trust is such a hard thing to get back once lost. Given the liberal media's behavior since the 2016 election, it is clear they really don't care what average people think of them. "The mask is off", as many have pointed out.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Trust is such a hard thing to get back once lost. Given the liberal media's behavior since the 2016 election, it is clear they really don't care what average people think of them. "The mask is off", as many have pointed out.

And that is probably the most significant and important result of the 2016 election. More than anything else, anyone who isn't a committed leftist should now see just how utterly corrupt and biased the mainstream media and entertainment industry are. They're not even bothering to hide it or disguise the lack of any journalistic integrity anymore.

[Great-Kazoo]

And that is probably the most significant and important result of the 2016 election. More than anything else, anyone who isn't a committed leftist should now see just how utterly corrupt and biased the mainstream media and entertainment industry are. They're not even bothering to hide it or disguise the lack of any journalistic integrity anymore.

This was a topic i had discussed with many a forum member off board, as well as with other than gun people. My concern at the time (pre 16 election) was how many people were able to, or not able to see through the deceit of the "media" .
From Clintons Super Delegate numbers, months before the DNC primary was held. To Clinton's overwhelming electoral college sweep.

Exactly how did the "media" know this? They didn't, yet were IMO, the real Russian Election Interference.
From screwing Bernie to the ongoing onslaught of everyone who didn't vote D is a racistmysognisticalhomophobiaundereducated bigot. So they look for russkies, while it's they who were complicit trying to influence the election.

[Bailey Guns]

Finding the truth buried amidst all the deception by some in government and virtually all in media is one of life's great challenges and it's seldom achieved with complete confidence. And that's very disheartening. So many haystacks of lies, so few needles of truth.

[cstone]

“Journalistic integrity” is a bullshit mythical term invented by journalists and academics in the 1950s. Journalism has historically been the communication of information by those who pay for the message. Unbiased is like unicorns and the tooth fairy. I have more respect for sources that come out and say what they stand for so the consumer can judge the information in context.

The first lie journalists are taught in journalism school is to remain unbiased.

Alcohol is the poor man’s truth serum.

Who cares what a man says when you know he is lying? What a person does when they believe no one is watching is a far better way of learning the truth.

Be safe.

[Irving]

Reading this article reminded me of this thread. Caution, reading the following article may result in entanglement of panties.

https://qz.com/1291485/quantum-physics-can-help-explain-much-of-the-worlds-suffering/

[Martinjmpr]

“Journalistic integrity” is a bullshit mythical term invented by journalists and academics in the 1950s. Journalism has historically been the communication of information by those who pay for the message. Unbiased is like unicorns and the tooth fairy. I have more respect for sources that come out and say what they stand for so the consumer can judge the information in context.

The first lie journalists are taught in journalism school is to remain unbiased.

Alcohol is the poor man’s truth serum.

Who cares what a man says when you know he is lying? What a person does when they believe no one is watching is a far better way of learning the truth.

Be safe.

The idea that the press is supposed to be "objective" and not take sides is a very recent one, historically speaking. Just look at news reports from as recently as WWII.

Even today there are still newspapers with names like the "Times-Democrat" or the "Herald-Republican."

They didn't have those names because they were unbiased in their politics. ;)

[Irving]

Is it bad to try and be unbiased? Perhaps articles should be presented more like scientific studies where at the bring it each article the author states their hypothesis about the situation before they wrote the article, then makes a statement about whether they see the situation any differently after conducting whatever research required to write the article.

[Great-Kazoo]

Is it bad to try and be unbiased? Perhaps articles should be presented more like scientific studies where at the bring it each article the author states their hypothesis about the situation before they wrote the article, then makes a statement about whether they see the situation any differently after conducting whatever research required to write the article.


That would require work and integrity. Something today's "press" has not time for. While they're doing actual investigation of a story before it goes to the public, that story would be a week old by today's standard. Why do work when there's 1/2 doz tweets to base a story on?

Here's the current outrage (OOPS) news story. Look at how much work was done to go to press by the author instead of reposting tweets. This one has 11 of them.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/samantha-bee-apologizes-inappropriate-ivanka-trump-comment-will-not-fired-tbs-despite-backlash-190808708.html

[Irving]

Long form journalism is nearly dead.

[Martinjmpr]

I think most people don't really mind "biased" or one-sided journalism. I certainly don't. I think that when it comes to reporting the news, everybody comes at it from a specific viewpoint, whether they admit it or not.

I don't expect anything "objective" from either RT or Al Jazeera but that doesn't mean their reporting is without value. I don't expect them to be "unbiased" but even biased reporting can impart information, often times information that is not available elsewhere.

What galls me are "journalists" with an obvious axe to grind pretending to be objective. And worse than that is the hypocrisy of these same "journalists" then criticizing admittedly-biased opinion writers for not being objective.

For that matter, "bias" can be expressed in a number of ways. Probably the most effective way of expressing bias is in the choice of what gets reported and what gets buried, what is "above the fold" and what is at the bottom of Page 39 (or in TV terms, what leads the news at 6:00 vs. what gets reported at 2:30 AM.) Even journalists who see themselves as being completely disinterested and unbiased with regards to a story still show their prejudices by highlighting what they consider to be important and what they consider to be unimportant.

[DavieD55]

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[Justin]

Is it bad to try and be unbiased? Perhaps articles should be presented more like scientific studies where at the bring it each article the author states their hypothesis about the situation before they wrote the article, then makes a statement about whether they see the situation any differently after conducting whatever research required to write the article.

Maybe it's something worth striving for, but I don't expect that it's generally possible to present an unbiased story, except in the most simplistic of circumstances.

The problem isn't with the ideal of striving to reduce bias, it's with the fact that claims of journalistic integrity and neutrality are nothing more than hard-sell marketing slogans deliberately promulgated in order to condition the audience into not thinking critically about what information is being presented.

Just look at the sort of marketing language tv news uses; phrases like "most trusted name in news," "the team you can trust," "we're on your side," "most accurate news" are all designed to get the viewer to believe that what they're watching is ground truth and that there's no need to give any critical thought to what is being presented.

Long story short, news is fundamentally broken.

[Irving]

Could also say that All marketing is lies.

Even though Tom Martino is a bit of a clown, I once heard him say that whatever a company is marketing the most, is usually what they are worst at, which I've found to often be true; especially concerning customer service issues.

Comcast advertising great customer service. Every time an RTD bus is in a public crash they all get signs on the side talking about how our safety is their number one priority. Wells Fargo running adds about rebuilding trust, etc.

[Justin]

Ha. That's kind of a high brow version of what I call the Fancy Ketchup Test.

Cheap packets of generic ketchup are always labelled as "Fancy Ketchup."

Whereas if you go to a high end restaurant where they make their own, there's no need to tell you it's fancy because the fanciness is self-evident in how the ketchup is made and served.

[Zundfolge]

Long form journalism is nearly dead.

In the MSM, yes. But in the new media its seeing a resurgence and possibly a new golden age.

[Irving]

Could also say that All marketing is lies.

Even though Tom Martino is a bit of a clown, I once heard him say that whatever a company is marketing the most, is usually what they are worst at, which I've found to often be true; especially concerning customer service issues.

Comcast advertising great customer service. Every time an RTD bus is in a public crash they all get signs on the side talking about how our safety is their number one priority. Wells Fargo running adds about rebuilding trust, etc.

Yep, just got an email from Uber today and the subject line is "Your safety is our priority." Right on schedule.