View Full Version : Traffic Rant Denver is a one lane town
Stu_Padaso
06-07-2018, 18:10
[soap] Does anybody else notice that every major thoroughfare is down to one lane , and every alternate route is also down to one lane
there should be a law restricting the amount of one lane closers in a certian direction , Frustrating then again maybe im just a Stu padaso .
Stu
Hmm. I’ve never noticed any bad traffic in the Denver area.
and to think I get frustrated when my 12 mile drive to work takes 20 minutes instead of 15. So glad to be out of the Denver Metro area.
Wolfshoon
06-07-2018, 18:31
You are going to love the construction coming for I-70 as they redo the elevated part through town.....................................
Tons of repaving/general BS. I hate driving in Denver, I miss being able to bike to work so, so much.
It's just getting too damn crowded.
We should have built a wall.
...and then had the neighboring states pay for it.
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Great-Kazoo
06-07-2018, 19:14
Hmm. I’ve never noticed any bad traffic in the Denver area.
Me neither, then again i try avoiding going on any roadway south of Hwy 34.
I have to drive on 225, 70 and 36 to and from work, it can take anywhere between 45 minutes and 2 hours
Well yeah, the roads don't exist so you can get from one place to another easily and efficiently.
The roads exist so you can be trapped on them, paying 22 cents per gallon to the state plus 18 cents per gallon to the feds in taxes, the longer you sit the more they can steal.
The roads exist so you can be trapped on them, paying 22 cents per gallon to the state plus 18 cents per gallon to the feds in taxes, the longer you sit the more they can steal.
Which isn't great for "the environment". These bureaucrats apparently want to kill future generations. [Sarcasm2]
longrange2
06-07-2018, 19:58
Denver has done a good job of turning real traffic lanes into bike lanes, on purpose, to make driving so painful people will take mass transit.
I have to drive on 225, 70 and 36 to and from work, it can take anywhere between 45 minutes and 2 hours
I took I-76 to I-80 to get to work tomorrow.
I took I-76 to I-80 to get to work tomorrow.
You're going to be late. You should have left yesterday.
I know it’s a bitch thread but the logistics of massive revamping of insert the name of major transport routes due to massive a influx of humans is not a weeknight drawing on a cocktail napkin.
the state has been planning these various expansions since w’s first term easily. My favorite is i270 from 70 to 25 slated to remove clover leaf merge system mid 2025 at the earliest
Stu_Padaso
06-07-2018, 21:38
You really got to love a speed traps after the construction zones when everybody thinks its Daytona 500 and they just dropped the green flag lol.
and they scratch their heads wonder why there's so much road rage !! really ?
Stu[beatdeadhorse]
I know it’s a bitch thread but the logistics of massive revamping of insert the name of major transport routes due to massive a influx of humans is not a weeknight drawing on a cocktail napkin.
the state has been planning these various expansions since w’s first term easily. My favorite is i270 from 70 to 25 slated to remove clover leaf merge system mid 2025 at the earliest
I270 would be my favorite highway if it wasn't clogged all the time. I-225 is way better than it used to be for sure.
pickenup
06-07-2018, 23:20
I get pissed if I have to go east of Sheridan.
Grant H.
06-07-2018, 23:26
I know it’s a bitch thread but the logistics of massive revamping of insert the name of major transport routes due to massive a influx of humans is not a weeknight drawing on a cocktail napkin.
the state has been planning these various expansions since w’s first term easily. My favorite is i270 from 70 to 25 slated to remove clover leaf merge system mid 2025 at the earliest
True, but thus far CDOT has done a truly terrible job of trying to keep up, to the point of saying that "denver traffic is no worse than other metropolitan areas, so we don't need to change anything"...
I won't expound on it any further, because I know we have guys on here that work for CDOT...
sneakerd
06-08-2018, 07:17
I was ranting the same yesterday. The main routes are effed up, as are your primary alternates. It sucks.
Maybe if they make all the highways into high-priced toll roads and Lexus lanes, traffic would ease up for everyone (except those who actually have to be at work).
I have to drive on 225, 70 and 36 to and from work, it can take anywhere between 45 minutes and 2 hours
Oh yea, I forgot 270 is in that mix, probably the worst 5 miles of highway I've ever been on.
Maybe if they make all the highways into high-priced toll roads and Lexus lanes, traffic would ease up for everyone (except those who actually have to be at work).
I thought that was their plan.
Added an extra lane on the north end of I25 where it’s always congested and made it a toll lane so nobody wants to pay and it’s just as congested as ever. Same on highway 36 going out to Boulder. Extra toll lane.
While there probably are too many vehicles on the roads if 95% of these idiots would learn to drive it might actually flow pretty decent even with the large volume of vehicles.
OtterbatHellcat
06-08-2018, 14:43
While there probably are too many vehicles on the roads if 95% of these idiots would learn to drive it might actually flow pretty decent even with the large volume of vehicles.
Agreed.
I would add that CO doesn't plan for the future though. They seem to plan for the "now", and by the time they're done with the project, it's already clogged up again. T-Rex for example. If you NEED and eight lane highway, then BUILD a twelve lane highway.....imo.
why not just shut the borders? :D
Same thing happened in Boston with their Big Dig. They designed it in the 70's and finished in the 2000's, it was out of date before they even started the construction.
While there probably are too many vehicles on the roads if 95% of these idiots would learn to drive it might actually flow pretty decent even with the large volume of vehicles.
Agreed.
I would add that CO doesn't plan for the future though. They seem to plan for the "now", and by the time they're done with the project, it's already clogged up again. T-Rex for example. If you NEED and eight lane highway, then BUILD a twelve lane highway.....imo.
That's easier said than done. There isn't even room for a 12 lane highway for most of I-25 where they need it.
Example: I was listening to a podcast of a guy talking about how smart mushrooms are, and he was saying that the people running the study built a scale model of Tokyo with nutrients at all the major areas. Then the mushroom grew to seek the nutrients in a way that was more efficient than the current traffic layout of Tokyo. Another study had little kids design some sort of traffic infrastructure and the design was touted as more efficient than what was currently in place. Big deal. Mushrooms and little kids don't have to navigate over a hundred years of the results of zoning laws and private property ownership.
OtterbatHellcat
06-08-2018, 15:21
When I was a teenager, the DOT spent a couple of years concreting I-25 from like highway 7 all the way to WY. They were already there doing stuff, 2 north and 2 south.
Retarded.
They had the room, the time and evidently the money to be there, and they blew it. Kinda my point, they should have at least done 3 each way back then.
That's easier said than done. There isn't even room for a 12 lane highway for most of I-25 where they need it.
Example: I was listening to a podcast of a guy talking about how smart mushrooms are, and he was saying that the people running the study built a scale model of Tokyo with nutrients at all the major areas. Then the mushroom grew to seek the nutrients in a way that was more efficient than the current traffic layout of Tokyo. Another study had little kids design some sort of traffic infrastructure and the design was touted as more efficient than what was currently in place. Big deal. Mushrooms and little kids don't have to navigate over a hundred years of the results of zoning laws and private property ownership.
If you dig deep enough along the CO traffic corridors, you'll find wagon tracks. They just kept making the same old tracks bigger over time. There's no efficiency given to any of it, just expediency (in government terms).
clodhopper
06-08-2018, 16:18
My 20 mile commute to work involves about 12 miles of dirt road, one stop sign and one light. Almost no traffic even during "rush hour". Low stress through better planning.
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I would add that CO doesn't plan for the future though. They seem to plan for the "now", and by the time they're done with the project, it's already clogged up again. T-Rex for example. If you NEED and eight lane highway, then BUILD a twelve lane highway.....imo.
Correct.
OTOH I didn't expect the population in CO to explode over the last few years either.
I’m typically getting paid while I’m commuting so that probably helps reduce my stress levels. It’s kind of like the worse traffic is the longer it takes me and the more money I make.
True, but thus far CDOT has done a truly terrible job of trying to keep up, to the point of saying that "denver traffic is no worse than other metropolitan areas, so we don't need to change anything"...
I won't expound on it any further, because I know we have guys on here that work for CDOT...
Yes we have. Rant away, I went take it personally.
But a lot of time and money is wasted on required federal studies and policies.
DBE requirement, on the job training, environmental studies, excessive tracking, the entire FHWA. Transit transfers, ect..
OtterbatHellcat
06-09-2018, 04:50
Ya just cant beat "government efficiency"... :)
thvigil11
06-09-2018, 08:40
I'm doing 55 miles one way on I25 in under 50 minutes. But then again I'm 200 miles south of denver.
[Flower]
68Charger
06-09-2018, 09:11
In Dallas, the toll roads now have toll lanes... (double tolls for Lexus lane on a toll road)
It isn't any better than Denver, and construction takes decades.
I'd say stop the toll road idea while you can.... but the realist in me says it's already been decided, so bohica
Stu_Padaso
06-09-2018, 22:07
In Dallas, the toll roads now have toll lanes... (double tolls for Lexus lane on a toll road)
It isn't any better than Denver, and construction takes decades.
I'd say stop the toll road idea while you can.... but the realist in me says it's already been decided, so bohica
i was in Virginia last year and was impressed with the hwy system , it was pretty nice , of course half population and no snow plows helps
Im glad to see there are many of you that share the frustration , not glad but you know PEACE OUT \
Stu
Are you from here originally?
68Charger
06-09-2018, 22:30
i was in Virginia last year and was impressed with the hwy system , it was pretty nice , of course half population and no snow plows helps
Im glad to see there are many of you that share the frustration , not glad but you know PEACE OUT \
Stu
No worries, I go to the metrocity less than once a month... I'm blessed to work from home and only go into the office on rare occasions.
Stu_Padaso
06-09-2018, 22:48
Are you from here originally?
My dad was in USMC and retired here in 1977 , No to answer your question
Stu
I was just curious. I feel like Denver has gotten very bad for traffic, yet I still hear about places that people say are worse. I've never experienced worse, but that's due to my limited travel.
Stu_Padaso
06-09-2018, 23:00
I was just curious. I feel like Denver has gotten very bad for traffic, yet I still hear about places that people say are worse. I've never experienced worse, but that's due to my limited travel.
only place i've experienced it was visiting LA but that's a no brainer. got trapped on 405 it was honestly twice as bad compared to here . I still wouldn't live any were else , COLORADO IS STILL AWESOME [Awesom]
Really getting tired of the construction on C-470.
Denver traffic has increased over the 14 years we’ve been here. It still is pretty easy compared to the Boston-DC megalopolis or the total cluster that is LA. At least in Denver, Dallas, or Houston you can get off the highway and take surface roads or drive during the off-rush time.
Never understood why it is called “rush hour.” No one gets to go fast enough to appear like they are in a rush and most large cities have hours of traffic in the morning, afternoon, and evening. “Crawl hours” seems to be more appropriate.
I try to get a glimpse of I 25 before committing to entry. If I don’t enter or have to bail after entering, at least there are a half dozen parallel roads going in the general direction I am going.
Denver isn’t that bad when compared to Seattle and especially Honolulu, Hawaii.
Fortunately I have since moved to working an early day shift, therefore I leave my house at around 0400 and the traffic is minimal (aside from the morons doing 90+ mph on I-70). Of course, I remember a time when rush hour used to be just that. Now, you can't drive anywhere between 0800 - 1800 hours without this city being congested on the roadways. Denver had been growing vastly since I moved here in 1995, since the marijuana laws were passed people have flooded Denver and now the streets and highways can't keep up with the growth. Typical major metropolis, non-stop construction until the end of time. [Rant1]
Denver traffic was a whole lot nicer when there was only 1.5 million people living in the whole state...When I was traveling a bunch in the late 80s, I could count on getting from Lakewood to Stapleton International Airport in 25 minutes, day or night, arriving 30 minutes before my flight, and still having time to take a whiz before boarding the plane (with my pocket knife firmly in my pocket).[soap][blaster]
Stop complaining guys. Gov (well, the public-private [select Dim companies] partnership) is going to save us by making us pay tolls on the roads we've already paid to build on infrastructure many of us have been paying on for decades.
https://www.codot.gov/news/toll-adjustments-proposed-for-us-36-i-25-express-lanes
May 21, 2018 - Plenary Roads Denver requests transition to dynamic pricing to optimize travel times revenue for US 36 and I-25 Central Express Lanes
[snip]
As part of the request to move to dynamic pricing to respond to traffic conditions, PRD has asked the HPTE board to allow for the flexibility up to the current maximum rate for one way from Boulder to Denver, and from Denver to Boulder. The current maximum rates for ExpressToll account and pass users is $15.76 and $23.64 for License Plate Toll (LPT).
This state really can't get more stupid.
Stop complaining guys. Gov (well, the public-private [select Dim companies] partnership) is going to save us by making us pay tolls on the roads we've already paid to build on infrastructure many of us have been paying on for decades.
https://www.codot.gov/news/toll-adjustments-proposed-for-us-36-i-25-express-lanes
This state really can't get more stupid.
Oh... you wanna bet?
Just wait til Phaerie Dust Polis gets in the goober office
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site21/2014/0226/20140226_112107_polis%20cspan.jpg
Oh... you wanna bet?
Just wait til Phaerie Dust Polis gets in the goober office
[snip]
What a clownsuit! Who wears a bowtie. With a polo shirt. Under a coat?
Who wears a bowtie. With a polo shirt. Under a coat?
https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEjHFikABzglp1HRm/giphy.gif
BushMasterBoy
06-12-2018, 13:53
You metro guys go it easy.
http://www.kktv.com/content/news/BREAKING-Standoff-in-Pueblo-County--485195821.html
[snip]
[ROFL2]
But still...
Stu_Padaso
06-19-2018, 19:49
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FromMyColdDeadHand
06-19-2018, 19:51
There is a special kind of stupid present in Aurora and especially on I225. Don't know what it is. I see more bad driving and odd crap there than anywhere else.
The only day I experience serious issues is on Wednesday morning when I have to be into work at 9:00am. I'm coming from Aurora and get onto I-70 from Peoria. At 8:00am it's practically a parking lot already. Absolutely stupid because people don't know how to merge and a lot of big rigs in the fast lane slowing things down too. The traffic was already undesirable in Denver, but generally in the middle of the day (prior to the mass influx of people moving here) you could still get around town without much issue. Now, between 7:30am - 7:00pm it's ridiculous on the major thoroughfares.
What a clownsuit! Who wears a bowtie. With a polo shirt. Under a coat?
That's how he identifies as mannish.
You'd think someone with that much money would know how to dress.........
That's how he identifies as mannish.
You'd think someone with that much money would know how to dress.........
I'm sure he identifies as something. Not sure it's binary.
I see a lot of Libs with money that just don't know how to dress or behave, in general. Strange times.
I'm sure he identifies as something. Not sure it's binary.
I see a lot of Libs with money that just don't know how to dress or behave, in general. Strange times.
Communist and that is all that really matters. Everyone who votes for Polis is the enemy, never forget that.
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