It was fun while it lasted - EU to destroy Internet

[Zundfolge]

If (hell, when ... they don't care what the people think) the EU passes Article 13. a copyright law, it will end up banning even linking to copyrighted material (even with permission) thus basically shutting down all but the big media web sites in Europe. But because of the way the internet works there will be no way to prevent the automated systems they'll put in place to enforce this from impacting the Internet in the US and Asia, so it will either cause the rest of the world to have to firewall the EU segment of the internet or more likely just impose their draconian laws on the rest of the world by default (which the big tech companies want to do anyway as it eliminates all but their voices).

https://news.sky.com/story/memes-will-be-banned-under-new-eu-copyright-law-warn-campaigners-11398577

[Mad]


Here's a good video on the subject (while its still legal to link/embed videos on this site :p )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwR34cT1grw

[Great-Kazoo]

We get the Government We Deserve.

Of course Britan was the loser when Brexit passed, or were they ;)

[Gman]

I've been reading all week that the US is looking to take back management of Internet domains.

In the long run, the EU is toast. Every nation has their own interests in mind.

[Zundfolge]

If sites people use are impacted, they will start to divert to VPN's for American IP (or where have you) and run there.

If indeed American sites decide to wall themselves off from Europe than you are correct. If, however, American sites like Facebook, twitter and Google decide to go along with them we'll get stuck with the same rules by default here. Of course that will hasten the demise of Facebook twitter and Alphabet (which would be a boon for the free exchange of ideas) I also think this heavy handed attack on the open and free Internet by the EU will light the Euroskeptic flame in millions of apathetic, apolitical Europeans overnight and thus hasten the demise of the EU overall.

So this could turn out to be a great thing. But its going to suck in the short term.

But who knows, maybe Italy will bring down the EU before this is implemented :)


And yes, this does kind of light the fire under me to get off my ass and pick a good VPN (maybe I should start a discussion thread on that).

[BushMasterBoy]

Elon Musk will just put up satellites/servers in space and the rebels will just subscribe to them.

[Great-Kazoo]

And yes, this does kind of light the fire under me to get off my ass and pick a good VPN (maybe I should start a discussion thread on that).

Please do with (if possible) explanations why and how for us Luddites.

[Wulf202]

Please do with (if possible) explanations why and how for us Luddites.

+1

[Gman]

Elon Musk will just put up satellites/servers in space and the rebels will just subscribe to them.
Hopefully the satellites will be better at avoiding crashing into stationary objects than his cars.

[BushMasterBoy]

Spacex rocket boosters seem to have a pretty good record.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2018/06/08/spacex-plans-major-expansion-kennedy-space-center/685098002/

[cstone]

This was inevitable after video killed the radio star.

[crays]

Hopefully the satellites will be better at avoiding crashing into stationary objects than his cars.Well... Technically he would then have a driverless car AND a satellite in orbit at the same time, so........ 🤤[emoji44][emoji856]

Sent from somewhere...

[asmo]

But because of the way the internet works there will be no way to prevent the automated systems they'll put in place

"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it". -- John Gilmore 1993

[def90]

Pornhub just launched a VPN service.. free with ads, $13/mo without..

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3276050/privacy/pornhub-vpnhub-vpn-service-free-unlimited-bandwidth.html

More info on other VPN services..

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3198369/privacy/best-vpn-services-apps-reviews-buying-advice.html

[rondog]

Kinda glad I don't understand ANY of this bullshit.....

[wyome]

We'll still be able to see kitty cat videos tho?

[68Charger]

The article is crap... they mentioned wanting to monetize material used for memes, but I didn't see one suggestion for how to do that, other than maybe sue people for posting your pics?

VPN wouldn't do much for this, it would be content posted on servers they would go after... so you can be harassed by this new group of dickheads, not just the MPAA (Many People Acting like Assholes)

Whatever, I doubt it will amount to much since the EU doesn't have the balls to kick refugees out from their own countries after beating and raping women there.

[68Charger]

Ok, just to be clear... >I< don't need a VPN for this bovine scatology... but I use one frequently anyway.

And I was trying to relate to the OP's title... the EU can barely wipe their own ass, and don't use deodorant on a regular basis... they CAN'T break the internet, except in the EU.

[Justin]

"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it". -- John Gilmore 1993


We sure were innocent and starry-eyed back then, weren't we?

[Gman]

Where there's a will, there's ways to get around it.

[Rumline]

Whatever, I doubt it will amount to much since the EU doesn't have the balls to kick refugees out from their own countries after beating and raping women there.
No, they choose not to go after refugee criminals because refugees have more societal value than citizens / indigenous people. Refugees don't really make memes, so they'll put the full force of law behind prosecuting that.

[brutal]

Another piece of GDPR garbage.

We're all fucked with this EU BS. Anyone and everyone is a target for litigation through non-compliance of EU regs.

I'm getting queries from some (less sophisticated) clients because IBM is sending out letters demanding they acknowledge they do business with IBM, which is bound by GDPR due to business conducted within the EU. It's guilt by association. I'm talking mom and pop machine shops that only make, market, and sell domestically. Just because they use Big Blue iron, they're subject to this crap.

I don't profess to understand it all, but the EU can go fuck themselves with an ebola infected cactus.

[DireWolf]

Another piece of GDPR garbage.

We're all fucked with this EU BS. Anyone and everyone is a target for litigation through non-compliance of EU regs.

I'm getting queries from some (less sophisticated) clients because IBM is sending out letters demanding they acknowledge they do business with IBM, which is bound by GDPR due to business conducted within the EU. It's guilt by association. I'm talking mom and pop machine shops that only make, market, and sell domestically. Just because they use Big Blue iron, they're subject to this crap.

I don't profess to understand it all, but the EU can go fuck themselves with an ebola infected cactus.

Just figured I'd add my .02 here - Completely agree as to the fucked-up way that law was written and all the BS unintended consequences cropping up...

That said, there was/is valid underlying reasoning (the intent was solid, but end result got fucked up), and this is ultimately the result of shitbags in expensive suits that won't act properly unless beaten into submission, which is the intent of those 4% Gross Revenue fines for non-compliance...

Expect way more of this coming down at the fed/state level because as previously stated, there is a real need (CA just passed a similar privacy law, and while as usual they let special interests fuck it up, they actually came close to doing something right for a change...), but I'm still not holding my breath for the personal accountabity (civil & criminal) which is really required to solve the underlying problem(s) that law was meant to address..

[Irving]

Can anyone take the time to unpack this and explain what it means to the lay person? Or have a link to an article or something?

[Great-Kazoo]

Can anyone take the time to unpack this and explain what it means to the lay person? Or have a link to an article or something?

The EU has sway over domestic items.

novus ordo seclorum

[Zundfolge]

Well good news for now, some UKIP MEPs were able to get the thing dragged out of secret and to a vote to put it off for further debate and amendments (which may kill it). So this gives them until September to mobilize opposition to it (which had grown pretty strong in the last few days anyway).

Or in other words, they've given Italy, Hungary, Poland and Romania more time to destroy the entire EU before it comes up for a vote again.