Veteran or AD Military??? Are you an "Extremist"?

[Bailey Guns]

This is a link to what I consider to be a very disgusting article by Rob Waters of the Southern Poverty Law Center...a group I consider to be composed of leftist extremists.

Waters doesn't have anything nice to say about the military or the "Oath Keepers". I thought the left was the side advocating tolerance. Guess not.

http://www.alternet.org/story/143500/right-wing_extremist_group_on_active_military_duty/

An excerpt:

Oath Keepers is fully on board with all the standard right-wing conspiracy theories, as evidenced by its official list of 10 “Orders We Will Not Obey,” (http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/) in which it vows to resist any government efforts to “disarm the American people” or turn cities into “giant concentration camps.”

Yeah...what a horrible group. Who in their right mind would resist efforts to undermine the Constitution or follow unlawful orders?

What a douche-bag.

[Bailey Guns]

BTW...here are the "10 Orders":

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

I guess I don't really see a problem with them. Of course, I count myself among those extremist miltary veterans and civilian police officers he bad-mouths.

Waters most likely couldn't serve because:

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[SA Friday]

I have a hard time believing that the military is going to take Rob Waters seriously on this. The group doesn't meet the criteria for extremists, terrorists, or even misguided... The list of 10 orders would be illegal anyway as far as I can tell. I really can't see anything in this groups philosophies that contradicts any of the military branches core values. The article doesn't point out any evidence of anti-govt activity. It just states that there is some. OK, what was it?

If he thinks patches are proof, then I'm one guilty som'bitch. I wore a Molon Labe, Face Towards Enemy, and Embrace the Suck patches at various times while in Iraq. The Embrace the Suck patch stayed on my kit for the entirety of my last tour. I had to explain the Molon Labe one too often so bagged it.

SPLC is stretching IMO. The criteria the military uses to determine prohibited activities is well quoted in the article, and they don't meet the criteria. I just retired, and have never heard of this group. Considering how vocal I was on my personal stances, I would have to believe I would have been approached by this group if it was as wide spread as Waters makes it sound. It never happened. This reeks of a reporter stretching to try and make a story.

[Irving]

When written out in English, I didn't recognize "Molon Labe" at all. But as soon as I typed it into Wikipedia and saw the carving, I recognized it right away. I still didn't know what it meant though, so I just read up on it instead of asking you. I should get a patch like that as well. Nice info.

EDIT: This would make a nice tattoo.

[mutt]

So anyone who is willing to defend The People from The Government is an extremist? Yeah, I guess our Founding Fathers were extreme. I remember taking an oath to defend The Constitution of the United States, even if that meant opposing a corrupt government or refusing an unlawful order. I see no problems here. Any American soldier or govt agent who would deny the people of their constitutional rights is the enemy, period.

[Elhuero]

If the west coast represents political change via lawful, peaceful means such as elections, and the east coast represents political change via bloodshed, and Lebanon, KS is about in the middle.......

then I'd say the country is almost to the border of Missouri, moving eastbound slow but steady.

[sniper7]

If the west coast represents political change via lawful, peaceful means such as elections, and the east coast represents political change via bloodshed, and Lebanon, KS is about in the middle.......

then I'd say the country is almost to the border of Missouri, moving eastbound slow but steady.


I agree with this.