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JohnnyDrama
09-28-2018, 11:13
Just watch the first 30 seconds and ask if you know any well people who talk this way. Watch her face.
This is becoming a meme but I think it's illness and probably shouldn't be mocked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UZo-x2Ixlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UZo-x2Ixlc
I feel sorry for the woman. She's going to have the credibility of Monaca Lewinsky after this....
The Dims went full retard. Never go full retard.
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1 Timothy 2:5
No good ever comes from full retard....
Yes, she is a useful idiot.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/lindsey-graham-drops-bomb-accuses-christina-fords-activist-lawyers-of-not-telling-her-she-could-give-private-testimony-video/
Senator Graham pointed out a major discrepancy in Christina Ford’s remarks and the Committee’s emails to her attorneys.
Apparently, Ford’s far left activist attorneys did not tell her she could testify in private and in California.
This is a HUGE development!
Sen. Lindsey Graham: I about fell out of my chair when Dr. Ford said yesterday, “I didn’t know you would be willing to come to me.” The email interactions between this committee and her lawyers. “My staff would still welcome the opportunity to speak to Dr. Ford any time, anyplace, convenient to her. Come to us or we to you. I’m willing to have my staff travel to Dr. Ford in California or any where else to obtain her testimony. September the 19th.” Well, that wouldn’t fit in the plan. It wouldn’t be public and it would get over sooner than people wanted. I don’t know what to believe but I tend to believe that Dr. Ford did not know about this invitation. And, I’ve been a lawyer most of my adult life and somebody needs to ask the question to her lawyers how could she not know about this?
DireWolf
09-28-2018, 11:51
Disclosure: Watched a few clips, read the highlights, including here. Have better things to do than watch seven hours of that shitshow.
I wish someone would have brought up the whole "repressed memory" thing of the 1980's - 1990's and how many innocent people were convicted of that bullshit. They could have played along and said:
PS: That's obviously not from the hearing, that's from foxtrot, pissed off speechwriter.^That's excellent.
Just my .02, but I think maybe you should consider packaging that up, maybe "de-thorn" it just the tiniest amount (so as not to pour too much sand in anyone's panties), and see if any of the online media outlets will publish under a pseudonym...
Flake is flaking. Tried to make a side deal with Dims.
Looks like Dims might have bought another week delay.
HA! Dims just tried to take the whole process away and had to clarify their votes as "no on the nominee."
They are asking the floor vote get pushed a week.
This isn't up to the Judiciary Committee.
Grassley says he supports the delay and will advocate but can't control Senate timing. It's up to McConnell.
Everyone says one week.
Flake is flaking. Tried to make a side deal with Dims.
Looks like Dims might have bought another week delay.
Haven't seen these news feeds. Source? (Not doubting, just curious)
ETA: Nevermind. Just saw some relevant feeds.
Flake taking a payoff before leaving. GOP Swamp
Bailey Guns
09-28-2018, 12:31
Jeff Flake is a spineless SOB. If any republican was gonna cave you knew it would be him. He's doing the country a favor by retiring. Just wish is was sooner.
Bailey Guns
09-28-2018, 12:38
As usual we get dems demanding something without offering anything in return. What happens if the FBI concludes yet another investigation into Kavanaugh and reports there's nothing to report? Will these shithead dems then vote for Kavanaugh? Of course not. This is just more democrat bullshit designed to give them more time to find something else to throw at Kavanaugh. And Flake is stupid enough to go along with it.
How in the holy fuck did AZ wind up with him and McCain at the same time? It's mind boggling.
As usual we get dems demanding something without offering anything in return. What happens if the FBI concludes yet another investigation into Kavanaugh and reports there's nothing to report? Will these shithead dems then vote for Kavanaugh? Of course not. This is just more democrat bullshit designed to give them more time to find something else to throw at Kavanaugh. And Flake is stupid enough to go along with it.
How in the holy fuck did AZ wind up with him and McCain at the same time? It's mind boggling.
Everybody hates Flake! But he is giving cover for Collins and Murkowski. It has always been about them.
You are right. The week will come and go with witnesses reaffirming their committee statements on new FBI 302s. More allegations will be made. Dims will continue to screech about beer, baseball tickets, and baseless claims of perjury. Then they will claim temperament problems because innocent men accused of serial rape should really take it better.
Booker himself spoke for 20 minutes listing all the BS reasons why they oppose Kavanaugh that had nothing to do with the Ford allegations directly.
Another question: If the Ford allegations deserve an FBI investigation why not Ramirez? Swetnick? I mean, how can we be 100% sure of anything unless we take months to unravel all of this?!?
If McConnell caves to this, to get Collins and Murkoski on board, I hope the FBI can highlight Ford's inconsistencies and look into her background. But it won't matter. The smear is about narrative, not fact.
DireWolf
09-28-2018, 13:45
[B]...But he is giving cover for Collins and Murkowski. It has always been about them...
Correct me if I'm off on this, but didn't Murkowski lose a primary a while back and then win the in thr general as a write-in, or force a recount and come up with a bunch of votes that "got missed" originally? I seem to remember it being one of those but can't recall which offhand...
hollohas
09-28-2018, 13:54
By Wednesday next week the Dems will march out a new accuser. They already know who this person is. Then they'll demand another investigation and delay. And on it goes until November.
Martinjmpr
09-28-2018, 14:18
By Wednesday next week the Dems will march out a new accuser. They already know who this person is. Then they'll demand another investigation and delay. And on it goes until November.
Well, really, wouldn't delaying until after the mid-terms be a smart move by the GOP?
Think about it: The ELECTION is in November - but the new Congress that is going to get elected doesn't get seated until January.
The democrats aren't stupid (despite all the evidence to the contrary.) They know they have very little real chance to stop a SCOTUS nomination with the Republicans holding a majority in the senate.
What they're doing now is trying to use this to mobilize their base. Dems always do poorly in mid-terms because their base usually doesn't care enough to come out and vote unless there's an Obama or a Bill Clinton to vote for. What percentage of dem voters can name even one of their senators?
Right now they're trying to whip up the narrative of "Republicans is the party of rapey white males! Stop the rapey white males before they rape us all!" It's a stupid narrative but if it gets 5% or 10% increase in turnout then it benefits them.
I haven't looked at the projections for the senate races (since only 1/3 of the senate gets elected each election cycle) so I don't know if it's even possible for the Republicans to lose control of the senate. But let's assume arguendo that they do. Let's assume that November 6th is exactly the "blue wave" that democrats have been having wet dreams about for two years.
So what? Even if every republican that is up for election loses and the senate flips to the Democrats, that won't take place until January. Meanwhile, the still-republican controlled Senate could meet on November 7th or 8th and confirm whoever they wanted and the dems could do f*ck all to stop them.
Could they scream their heads off? Jump up and down? Yell "it's an atrosmissy?" Well, that wouldn't be much different from what they've been doing over the past 2 years so I don't know that anyone would even notice.
Voting for the SCOTUS nominee AFTER the election deprives the Dems of the value of the current circus.
FFS, an amateur can see through this BS character assassination. The other side won't agree to anyone that's remotely conservative. You have a majority, make it happen.
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Earn the title "do nothing Congress" and lose in the next general election.
hollohas
09-28-2018, 14:43
So what? Even if every republican that is up for election loses and the senate flips to the Democrats, that won't take place until January. Meanwhile, the still-republican controlled Senate could meet on November 7th or 8th and confirm whoever they wanted and the dems could do f*ck all to stop them.
I don't disagree with your assessment at all. Makes perfect sense. However, if they vote for confirmation after a possible blue wave but prior to Jan, I wonder how many of the sitting GOP congressmen would turncoat and vote against confirmation just to please their new upcoming donkey shaped majority?
68Charger
09-28-2018, 14:56
Or how many that are going to lose their seat could be lured into changing their vote by a nice cushy job opening that will conveniently be available when they vacate office?
Correct me if I'm off on this, but didn't Murkowski lose a primary a while back and then win the in thr general as a write-in, or force a recount and come up with a bunch of votes that "got missed" originally? I seem to remember it being one of those but can't recall which offhand...
I don't remember but I do know that she is in a very delicate position.
The problem these Senators have is trying to read how this Kavanaugh thing will complication their elections. And they won't know until midterms (even if they aren't up, they'll know). They are going to have to vote first.
It's like a different level of politics!
Bailey Guns
09-28-2018, 15:06
Trump just ordered a new investigation into Kavanaugh.
Bailey Guns
09-28-2018, 15:13
Well, really, wouldn't delaying until after the mid-terms be a smart move by the GOP?
Absolutely not. It gives democrats time to do everything they need to do to stop this nomination. If they win the senate in Nov you can forget about this seat being filled by a conservative. There won't be time and there will be even less incentive for chickenshits like Flake to do their jobs.
Democrats will use this week to energize their base even more than the frenzied condition they're in now. There is no good that will come of more delays.
Trump just ordered a new investigation into Kavanaugh.
This is exactly what Hitler would do. Literally Hitler.
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Judge makes second statement under penalty of perjury to address Swetnick allegations. He remains consistent and continues to cooperate. He is asking for a level of confidentiality which probably has to do with his alcohol problem.
Libs wanted the FBI to put the screw to Judge because he's the one person who was close to Kavanaugh who could verify multiple allegations from the high school timeframe.
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1045760994021134336
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoNKFOYXkAEa2HR.jpg:small
Grant H.
09-28-2018, 15:30
Given that Trump has now ordered the investigation of Kavanaugh in regard to this farce, I have a sneaking suspicion that the outcome is already pretty well known.
My guess is that this will yield nothing new, and may in fact be used to discredit Ford, so that it can't be an election killer for the GOP.
The one good thing about Flake's request, is that it makes the likelihood of the dems successfully trotting out another paid "he touched me" political prostitute very low. Being a narrow scope investigation, and limited in time, even when the dims bring out the next political hooker, it won't be included in the investigation. Or least that's how I'm reading what is going on.
But, I'm not a political scientist, so I could very well be wrong.
All I know is that we need to see Kavanaugh confirmed, or we are going to permanently lose our country to the ultra liberal fawkwads.
The investigation pledge has completely won over Democrats who are now being completely fair and reasonable.
Or not.
https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1045744811628810241
https://imgur.com/DcjpGdv.jpg
I wonder how the telephone conversation went from POTUS to Chris Wray and Rod Rosenstein after her sent the directive over to them to conduct an investigation. [LOL]
Bad move. Sets a precedent for future confirmation "hearings." They just keep getting worse.
Time to just tell them to shut up and follow the rules.
Tired of the enabling.
Grant H.
09-28-2018, 15:58
Bad move. Sets a precedent for future confirmation "hearings." They just keep getting worse.
Time to just tell them to shut up and follow the rules.
Tired of the enabling.
Agreed.
It's just going to get worse...
#CivilWar2020
Er... wait...
That would be bad.
BPTactical
09-28-2018, 16:02
The most powerful country to have ever existed is entirely engaged in discovering whether a teen grabbed a boob in the 80s.
Madness
Bailey Guns
09-28-2018, 16:03
The investigation pledge has completely won over Democrats who are now being completely fair and reasonable.
Or not.
Exactly. It doesn't matter how positive the outcome is for Kavanaugh it's not going to change the minds of democrats. This just emboldens them to demand more and more.
Can you imagine what the next person on the short-list of nominees is thinking about now? We're eventually gonna get to the point that republican presidents will be looking at municipal night court judges to fill seats because no one else will take the job simply because they don't want to be subjected to democrat character assassinations. They sure as hell won't want it for their families, either.
This is just more democrat maneuvering.
Bailey Guns
09-28-2018, 16:05
The most powerful country to have ever existed is entirely engaged in discovering whether a teen grabbed a boob in the 80s.
Madness
There's a lot of truth to this. I'm going strictly from memory of the statutes in CO so I could be wrong. But I think the behavior she described is basically just Class 1 Misdemeanor unwanted sexual contact in CO. One of you current guys feel free to correct me.
Exactly. It doesn't matter how positive the outcome is for Kavanaugh it's not going to change the minds of democrats. This just emboldens them to demand more and more.
Can you imagine what the next person on the short-list of nominees is thinking about now? We're eventually gonna get to the point that republican presidents will be looking at municipal night court judges to fill seats because no one else will take the job simply because they don't want to be subjected to democrat character assassinations. They sure as hell won't want it for their families, either.
This is just more democrat maneuvering.
We're supposed to think this was all about women and the pushback against Kavanaugh was legitimate.
You're right...
https://imgur.com/73uWrKX.jpg
The most powerful country to have ever existed is entirely engaged in discovering whether a teen grabbed a boob in the 80s.
Madness
Would you say this is better or worse than pubes on a Coke can?
hurley842002
09-28-2018, 16:20
There's a lot of truth to this. I'm going strictly from memory of the statutes in CO so I could be wrong. But I think the behavior she described is basically just Class 1 Misdemeanor unwanted sexual contact in CO. One of you current guys feel free to correct me.This is just memory from what I've read today, but as it pertains to the original Ford accusation, worst case scenario would be "attempted rape", which at the time of the alleged offense was a misdemeanor carrying a one year statute of limitations.
About 80 minutes ago, the Women's March account called Jeff Flake a "rape apologist."
After Flake did what they wanted and brokered the one week delay. This is why these people need to be voted out. It isn't so much principle at stake as the ability to navigate Lib duplicity and win.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoNqdnHV4AAxCzV.jpg:small
DireWolf
09-28-2018, 16:29
Correct me if I'm off on this, but didn't Murkowski lose a primary a while back and then win the in thr general as a write-in, or force a recount and come up with a bunch of votes that "got missed" originally? I seem to remember it being one of those but can't recall which offhand...
I don't remember but I do know that she is in a very delicate position.
The problem these Senators have is trying to read how this Kavanaugh thing will complication their elections. And they won't know until midterms (even if they aren't up, they'll know). They are going to have to vote first.
It's like a different level of politics!Finally had a few minutes of down time to check this, and voila:
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24606637.html
Maybe it's just me (and I try to keep the tinfoil hat buried pretty deep), but I just find this a bit interesting in-light of recent perspectives and hindsight...
BPTactical
09-28-2018, 16:44
Would you say this is better or worse than pubes on a Coke can?
Is this a male or female can?
Finally had a few minutes of down time to check this, and voila:
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24606637.html
Maybe it's just me (and I try to keep the tinfoil hat buried pretty deep), but I just find this a bit interesting in-light of recent perspectives and hindsight...
She may have even more wiggle room then depending on how this polls. I think staff is probably pretty busy trying to get a sense of that.
Is this a male or female can?
I don't know but I think it was a set up.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1290/4287/products/1_81dc156d-1420-4730-8195-a2e7449de1eb_1024x1024.jpeg
Great-Kazoo
09-28-2018, 17:13
Would you say this is better or worse than pubes on a Coke can?
Depends what flavor lube she used, hypothetically.
Depends what flavor lube she used, hypothetically.
[ROFL2]
Lost.
None of us are making it onto the USSC.
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Ford's team trying to control FBI process just like they did the hearing. I hope Rape-Apologist Flake is feeling really good about this! It's also interesting watch Dim pols pretend they aren't working with Ford's lawyer/PR people. It's like compromising for peace with the PLA only to wake up to news of Hammas blowing people up.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/409041-lawyer-for-kavanaugh-accuser-fbi-probe-should-not-have-artificial-limits
Debra Katz, a lawyer for Christine Blasey Ford, said on Friday that "artificial limits" should not be placed on the FBI as it reopens its background investigation into Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
"No artificial limits as to time or scope should be imposed on this investigation," Katz said in a statement.
Jeffrey Lebowski
09-28-2018, 17:43
I’m actually pretty indifferent to Kavanaugh, but the fact that they hate him SO MUCH makes me like him and want them to quit with the games, vote, put him in, and tell the Dems to STFU.
Bailey Guns
09-28-2018, 18:44
Debra Katz, a lawyer for Christine Blasey Ford, said on Friday that "artificial limits" should not be placed on the FBI as it reopens its background investigation into Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
"No artificial limits as to time or scope should be imposed on this investigation," Katz said in a statement.
There ya go. Right now it's a week. In a few days they're gonna be screaming for more time. This is why they should've been told to take their FBI investigation and shove it up their ass. This bullshit from the democrats will never end until Kavanaugh either withdraws his nomination or Trump decides to pull him out.
It should be painfully obvious that democrats are fucking liars and will do whatever they can to obstruct, resist and generally fuck things up until they're back in power. Then, God help us all.
And this is all from the same party who locally refused to do anything about Denver Mayors sexual abuse of an officer.
Bailey Guns
09-29-2018, 08:07
Now Maryland is jumping on the bandwagon. I wondered when that was gonna happen. All this over an alleged misdemeanor that occurred 36 years ago.
Authorities in Maryland on Friday said they were prepared to conduct a state-level criminal investigation into sexual assault allegations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh -- provided that a victim comes forward.
The disclosure by Montgomery County Police Chief J. Thomas Manger and Montgomery County State’s Attorney John McCarthy came Friday, the same day that President Trump ordered the FBI to conduct a limited "supplemental" investigation.
But Manger and McCarthy noted that prosecution was unlikely in Maryland because authorities would have to apply the law that existed at the time of the offense, not the law that exists now, Baltimore's FOX 45 News reported.
“For example, in 1982, assault and attempted rape were both misdemeanors and subject to a one-year statute of limitations,” they wrote.
(ETA: Which is exactlly what hurley posted above.)
GilpinGuy
09-29-2018, 08:18
I honestly haven't been following this ass clown circus as closely as many of you. But with a delay, doesn't it just make the Democrats look even more childish and desperate? It'll be a week more of whining, blatant and transparent lies, and more silly accusations. We all see through this crap, even Democrats who are spouting all this nonsense. But they ARE desperate, and rightfully so, so they kinda have to do it in their minds because means and ends and all that. Right and wrong don't mean shit in politics.
If things were reversed, with the balance swinging dramatically to the left, would Republicans be using the same tactics?
Bailey Guns
09-29-2018, 08:27
Republicans have never done what democrats are doing. Not in the last 100 years anyway. The worst example the democrats can bring up is Merrick Garland. With him, McConnell just refused to schedule a vote. Nothing more. There was no character assassination and wild claims of sexual assault from anonymous victims.
Democrats have done it over and over. They have a long track record of using this tactic...during my lifetime anyway.
And this is all from the same party who locally refused to do anything about Denver Mayors sexual abuse of an officer.
The hypocrisy is so amazing it's hard to even begin!
Hillary Clinton was just their candidate (Bimbo Eruption Squad and actual rape apologist)
Corey Spartacus Booker admitting in an editorial to being a drunk groper
Keith Ellison beat the living shit out of his side piece
"Judge Kavanaugh has a drinking problem" Yet no DUIs, public intox, etc...
Beto O'Rouke (TX) had a DUI wreck, ran from it, and lied, running right now!
Chris Cuomo (CNN) just had a DUI wreck (classic Firebird) and is talking shit about K
Ted Kennedy permanent state of inebriation including when he practiced his pregnant girlfriend problem solving skills
Now Maryland is jumping on the bandwagon. I wondered when that was gonna happen. All this over an alleged misdemeanor that occurred 36 years ago.
(ETA: Which is exactlly what hurley posted above.)
"Prepared"
This is the same "news" that's been reported for over a week. Local LE is saying they have received nothing but will look into it. Huge problem for accusers when the Dims shriek "INVESTIGATE!!!" and they won't even file police reports with the agencies that have jurisdiction.
I pointed out pages ago, they want the FBI to do the accuser's dirty work. I think this too will backfire.
The SoL analysis I've seen has been contradictory. Maybe our LEOs/legal experts can enlighten me? But it would seem LE can take a report even if SoL is up. SoL/charging determinations are made by DAs, right?
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Internet sleuths are off of work and digging today. If you follow socials, you'll see some of it. There are discrepancies on the timing of the house remodel (which Ford claimed triggered her memories). She claimed '12 but it looks like '08 according to Google street view.
Keyser (Ford's HS BFF) has reiterated she does not recall the party or the assault. The is the second witness to indicate they are sticking to their initial story in light of an FBI investigation. The attorney tried hard to add narrative which Libs are taking to mean the witness supports Ford's claim (actually the exact opposite).
Huge argument on if this is actually exculpatory. Since Ford named Keyser as a key witness and BFF, I think it is. Had Kavanaugh named her, BFD.
https://twitter.com/emmersbrown/status/1046021355030945799
New: Leland Keyser’s lawyer tells Judiciary she will cooperate with FBI. Reiterates she doesn’t remember the party or know Kavanaugh, and adds: “Notably, Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account.“
“However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question.”
If witness testimony doesn't change (and it isn't), you can expect lots of dirty tricks in the next week. Dims will need to invent more controversy.
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Lots of talk about how Ford's name/story was leaked to media after Feinstein denied it Thursday. Speculation is that some other Dim did it. Nothing solid and media won't talk.
I think this shows how Libs really view Ford treating it this way. You can half-way respect Feinstein for not leaking (if she didn't) out of care for Ford but some Lib said "fuck this woman, we need to stop Kavanaugh!" and everyone else followed suit.
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More info on the doxxing...
IP Address of Person Who Doxxed GOP Senators Points to Maxine Waters’s Office
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/breaking-ip-address-of-person-who-doxxed-gop-senators-points-to-maxine-waters-office/
National Security expert David Reaboi says the IP addresses point to Maxine Waters.
[snip]
Kathleen Sengstock, a staffer for Maxine waters, posted from this IP.
These people are too stupid to use a proxy while posting edits on Wiki that logs IP. Yup.
Kind of makes it obvious they know this is all BS too.
With the USSC opening this week, what cases will the 9th judge be missing that has the libs riled up?
With the USSC opening this week, what cases will the 9th judge be missing that has the libs riled up?
The conspiracy talk is that it's Gamble.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/28/politics/supreme-court-double-jeopardy-clause/index.html
What I have heard Libs say is that allowing state/local prosecution of crimes is a way to get Trump because they can't get around his executive authority. Of course we know that is nuts because they haven't found anything to charge Trump on in two years in any court.
A constructionist view of double jeopardy would like decide in favor of Gamble. Constitution matters and all that. Libs want us subject to multiple levels of prosecutorial discretion. Which is unsurprising given how they have weaponized government.
But everything goes back to Trump LiterallHitler.
hollohas
09-29-2018, 11:57
The most powerful country to have ever existed is entirely engaged in discovering whether a teen grabbed a boob in the 80s.
MadnessExactly. It's embarrassing.
On Gamble, would UCMJ fall under Federal, or is it technically a separate entity?
On Gamble, would UCMJ fall under Federal, or is it technically a separate entity?
Is there something you should tell us Cav?
(J/K, I don't know but great question)
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Scope creep within 24 hours. Ramirez was not part of the "one week delay/FBI" deal.
FBI reaches out to Deborah Ramirez, Boulder woman who accused Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct: Report
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/politics/fbi-reaches-out-to-deborah-ramirez-boulder-woman-who-accused-kavanaugh-of-sexual-misconduct-report
Either we have another runaway DoJ or they are trying to clear as much as they can, under instruction, by next week.
I was wondering more on guys who have been convicted by civilian courts for DUI (or whatever) and then are subject to UCMJ for the same thing.
ETA: and to clarify, no, I have never been in trouble with UCMJ or civilian courts. I either never got caught (:D) or I was given the option of "paper or sweat?" by NCOs who had no desire to screw up my future.
I was wondering more on guys who have been convicted by civilian courts for DUI (or whatever) and then are subject to UCMJ for the same thing.
ETA: and to clarify, no, I have never been in trouble with UCMJ or civilian courts. I either never got caught (:D) or I was given the option of "paper or sweat?" by NCOs who had no desire to screw up my future.
If you never pulled "Office Hours," you weren't doing it right!
Here's an attorney's answer. It sounds like technically that isn't DJ but they coordinate on the charges.
https://www.militarydefense.com/Practice-Areas/When-Double-Jeopardy-Doesn-t-Apply-For-Military-Personnel.shtml
Most people have heard of the concept of Double Jeopardy, the principle that a person cannot be convicted of the same crime twice. Military service members often believe that means that they cannot be prosecuted by both the military and civlian authorites. That belief, however, is incorrect. Civilian criminal laws and the UCMJ are different sets of laws, even if they are often similar. Service members may and have been prosecuted under both sets of law.
I wonder if Gamble will apply here?
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Woman Who Confronted Flake In Elevator Runs Soros-Funded Organization
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/woman-who-confronted-flake-in-elevator-runs-soros-funded-organization/
This is the woman screaming at Flake that many think rattled him and convinced him to make the deal.
What are the odds she is both a victim and works for Soros?
Bailey Guns
09-29-2018, 15:47
I'm just shocked at all these new developments. Shocked, I tell you.
Bailey Guns
09-29-2018, 16:00
76223
The most powerful country to have ever existed is entirely engaged in discovering whether a teen grabbed a boob in the 80s.
Madness
Can you imagine if it was more than a teet?
What if it was like "Hey wanna smell my finger?" then instead of Boobgate we'd have the stinky finger scandal [Coffee]
BPTactical
09-29-2018, 19:03
Can you imagine if it was more than a teet?
What if it was like "Hey wanna smell my finger?" then instead of Boobgate we'd have the stinky finger scandal [Coffee]
Close enough.
Don't worry Dave, we have the teenage boy fart scandal attached to this, the entire "Boofed" line of questioning from Mr Whitehouse.
See, aren't the Dems grand? They have all the bases covered.......
I’m surprised Whitehouse didn’t demand a sample.
JohnnyDrama
09-29-2018, 22:14
I was wondering more on guys who have been convicted by civilian courts for DUI (or whatever) and then are subject to UCMJ for the same thing.
ETA: and to clarify, no, I have never been in trouble with UCMJ or civilian courts. I either never got caught (:D) or I was given the option of "paper or sweat?" by NCOs who had no desire to screw up my future.
There's only one right answer there...
If you never pulled "Office Hours," you weren't doing it right!...
I had a Sergeant Major gig me .1 point on proficiency when he saw my conduct marks....
Said I wasn't trying hard enough. Kind of makes me wonder what my sergeant got away with...
As to Boobgate/Stinkyfinger I just think about all the movies made in the era about those subjects...
BPTactical
09-29-2018, 22:22
Video evidence of Ford /Kavenaugh party:
https://youtu.be/0i6ET9DMnLk
Video evidence of Ford /Kavenaugh party:
https://youtu.be/0i6ET9DMnLk
It's 40 years later...but still funny.
Great-Kazoo
09-30-2018, 00:16
As to Boobgate/Stinkyfinger I just think about all the movies made in the era about those subjects...
Like Porky's, or the passed out drunk daughter of Dean Wormer scene?
I thought it was the mayor's daughter...?
I was in high school those same years, and there was a push regarding teenage sexuality in all types of media (film, music, etc.), plus the hormones...
AIDS put a damper on that later.
Never saw this coming...
Give an inch and they'll demand a mile.
Democrats Denounce Limits on F.B.I.’s Kavanaugh Inquiry as a ‘Farce’ (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-denounce-limits-on-fbi’s-kavanaugh-inquiry-as-a-‘farce’/ar-BBNLk7R)
hollohas
10-01-2018, 11:57
Yeah, the goal posts are moving as usual. And the Dems are visibly shifting strategy too. This weekend every Dem that gave an interview to anyone hit on two talking points:
1) His recent testimony made it clear, Kavanaugh is obviously an angry unhinged man and not fit to sit on SCOTUS.
2) That if they find out that he drank more in college then he suggested in his testimony, then he lied under oath and can't serve. And magically on queue, a "witness" came forward to say he saw the Judge drink A LOT more in college than he said.
They are obviously in the process of dropping the arguement about the sexual assault claims (because they know there is no there, there) and moving the goal posts to his demeanor and drinking/lying. They are done with Dr Ford and have basically thrown her out now.
Rachel Mitchell's analysis of Ford's testimony and timeline of events.
Good read
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4952137/Rachel-Mitchell-s-analysis.pdf
BPTactical
10-01-2018, 20:44
Rachel Mitchell's analysis of Ford's testimony and timeline of events.
Good read
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4952137/Rachel-Mitchell-s-analysis.pdf
Compare and contrast: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna915491
If it wasn't for double standards Democrats would have no standards.
RblDiver
10-02-2018, 00:53
Body language expert comments on the Ford testimony: https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/10/01/watch-body-language-expert-analyzes-fords-testimony-shes-not-impressed/
Lots of updates, no way to post them all! The fight has shifted to 100% narrative. I think Dims see a bad week ahead when the FBI comes back.
They have nearly completely abandoned "BelieveHer" narrative and are focused on temperament; anger, drinking, and ice throwing (alleged bar fight that results in no charges but one police report).
Big items...
Blasey Ford Wrote Paper On Hypnosis Used To ‘Create Artificial Situations’
https://prepforthat.com/blasey-ford-wrote-paper-on-hypnosis-used-to-create-artificial-situations/
Reporting of...
https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1046842589020925952
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DochYNrU8AAJt3v.jpg:small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DochZ01UYAEen5o.jpg:small
I don't trust any sources I don't know, but this paper has been verified.
I believed Ford was mentally ill and she was being used. I think they'll find three decades of "issues" and "treatment." This is a new twist though.
If you read the excerpted text you will see they hacked memory to try and treat depression.
You may recall Debra Ramiez (accuser #2) said her accusation was the result of six days of "memory assessment." She did not state if that was a coached or solo exercise. Accusation #1 and #2 could share memory manipulation. And this would explain why Ford seemed "emotionally credible" last week but couldn't connect emotion to fact.
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Blasey Ford pal Leland Keyser tells FBI she doesn't know Kavanaugh, 'no recollection' of party
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/2/leland-keyser-tells-fbi-she-doesnt-know-kavanaugh-/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
Asked if she had repeated the same two statements she provided the Senate Judiciary Committee, the lawyer answered, “yes.”
Keyser, Judge, and Smyth...
https://twitter.com/WardDPatrick/status/1046855662133817344
... all have remained 100% consistent. Libs were hoping testimony, especially that of Judge, would move and offer support for the smear. It hasn't.
Keyser's testimony remains the most damaging to Ford's credibility. As her best friend in HS, no avg Joe can believe wouldn't have heard about the assault.
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NBC News Sits Down With Kavanaugh Accuser Julie Swetnick But Can't Verify Claims
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nbc-news-sits-down-kavanaugh-accuser-julie-swetnick-but-cant-verify-claims-1148414
WATCH: Kavanaugh Accuser Julie Swetnick Backtracks on Some Claims in Extensive NBC News Interview
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-kavanaugh-accuser-julie-swetnick-backtracks-on-some-claims-in-extensive-nbc-news-interview/
NBC News noted there were differences in Swetnick’s initial statement and her comments to the outlet, notably her assertion that Kavanaugh spiked punch at the parties so that groups of boys could rape girls.
Swetnick did not confirm that she saw Kavanaugh spike punch, but simply said she “saw him around the punch containers.”
“I don’t know what he did,” she told NBC.
She also appeared to backtrack on her suggestion that Kavanaugh was involved in gang rapes, saying she only saw him congregated with other boys outside of rooms. When Snow asked if she thought the boys were gathered in order to rape girls in the rooms, Swetnick replied “yes.”
Swetnick (#3) is falling apart fast!
This has me (still) believing that Michael Avenatti hired her just for the smear and probably got her name from Katz. People are still thinking Avenatti got trolled by 4chan. If so, he needed a victim and fast. Katz would have needed to defend the smear in advance of Ford's testimony last week.
This connection and timing isn't coincidental.
People are angry but remember, Swetnick offered a declaration not an affidavit. She can lie her head off in a declaration without any enforcement of perjury (declarations are not sworn to an authority). Avenatti really wanted that to look like, and be respected like, an affidavit.
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My own thoughts (no links to support): If Ford #1 and Ramirez #2 are linked via memory "recovery" and Ford #1 and Swetnick #3 are linked via Katz, then the fingerprints of a Dim working group are on all three.
These were engineered to be disparate events that told the story of Kavanaugh having a serious problem with women. But they are related. If this is confirmed the people behind the smear should be revealed.
If the GOP/Trump let this drop we'll be left with an Anita Hill narrative: "He did it, we just couldn't prove it because Republicans wouldn't investigate and blocked us."
Aloha_Shooter
10-02-2018, 13:26
The Democrats opened a can of worms when they created a new standard of requesting an FBI investigation of any credible accusations. Ben Shapiro nailed that one effectively with a huge list of credible accusations against everyone from Maxine Waters to Diane Feinstein that I don't think they want full FBI investigations on. In addition, they're being hoisted on their petard WRT Ellison's assault and battery of his ex-girlfriend and Trump skewered Little Dickie Blumenthal over his insinuations against Kavanaugh. I hope McConnell and company keep pushing on the Democrat inconsistencies all month.
I still feel bad for Kavanaugh and his family having to go through this garbage and the character assassination from the Democrats but allowing the Dems to unload like they did in the hearings and after is creating a rich theater for demoralizing their base and rallying the Republican base during October.
RblDiver
10-02-2018, 14:07
More cracks! Turns out Ford's "Second front door" being due to panic attacks story is also false. https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/02/this-whole-thing-is-a-sham-new-details-undercut-christine-blasey-fords-sworn-testimony/
Great-Kazoo
10-02-2018, 14:52
Breaking News from CNN
Turns out Judge Kavanaugh failed to report the income earned while in elementary school, from his paper route !! Sen Maxine Waters has asked the IRS to review any taxes paid to see if he perjured himself on earned income.
Says the failure to report said income was probably a result of his college binge drinking
Breaking News from CNN
Turns out Judge Kavanaugh failed to report the income earned while in elementary school, from his paper route !! Sen Maxine Waters has asked the IRS to review any taxes paid to see if he perjured himself on earned income.
Says the failure to report said income was probably a result of his college binge drinking
[LOL]
There are also rumors he didn't take turns on the playground.
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More Swetnick problems...
Judiciary Committee Receives Statement Regarding Swetnick Allegations
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/judiciary-committee-receives-statement-regarding-swetnick-allegations
“During a conversation about our sexual preferences, things got derailed when Julie told me that she liked to have sex with more than one guy at a time. In fact sometimes with several at one time. She wanted to know if that would be ok in our relationship.
“I asked her if this was just a fantasy of hers. She responded that she first tried sex with multiple guys while in high school and still liked it from time-to-time. She brought it up because she wanted to know if I would be interested in that.”
[snip]
“Julie never said anything about being sexually assaulted, raped, gang-raped or having sex against her will. She never mentioned Brett Kavanaugh in any capacity.”
…
“Because I had lost Julie’s number I called her father to get it. When I talked to him about possibly bringing her on to help with my campaign, he told me that she had psychological and other problems at the time.”
[snip]
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Mike Davis (Chief Counsel) puts Avenatti in his place...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoiOlW1X0AEEPHJ.jpg:small
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Cory Spartacus Booker reveals it's not about the accusations anymore.
Flake is a such a fool!
https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1047219135460073473
Ford's ex claims there was no fear of flying and Ford coached friend on polygraph exam.
While this continues to show that Ford has/is manipulated it also shows that the FBI is using this time to look into her. It's going to be a crazy week!!!
https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1047295824374497280
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Doi9_-EW0AA--ml.jpg:small
BPTactical
10-02-2018, 21:02
This is not gonna buff out: https://www.scribd.com/document/389989823/10-02-18-CEG-to-Ford-Attorneys-1#
Unfortunately the therapist can tell Chuck "I just found my balls" Grassley to pound sand. That letter is a publicity stunt, logically equivalent to "stop or I shall say 'stop' again!"
This is not gonna buff out: https://www.scribd.com/document/389989823/10-02-18-CEG-to-Ford-Attorneys-1#
That second-to-last paragraph!!! [ROFL1]
Neither side wants to bring this up.
There really are no decent human beings in national politics. NONE
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sinister-battle-brett-kavanaugh-over-202425923.html
...
Mr Kavanaugh’s reaction to the findings of his colleague can be found in the stash of released documents from the Starr inquiry. One says in his hand-written notes: “startling discovery”, “blew up portions of photo – trauma to the neck on rt side”, “appears to be bullet hole”.
He was presented with a long analysis by Rodriguez that ripped apart the earlier Fiske report and called for an open homicide investigation. This had huge implications for the Clinton presidency and caused an internal crisis in the Starr office. A decision was made to shut down that part of probe. Miquel Rodriguez said he was “forced out”. It was the end of the only genuine probe of the Foster death – conducted under oath – that had ever occurred.
Mr Kavanaugh faced a choice. He chose to go with the establishment rather than stick up for his colleague. This proved good for his career. He took over the grand jury, by then a legacy showpiece.
...
Neither side wants to bring this up.
There really are no decent human beings in national politics. NONE
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sinister-battle-brett-kavanaugh-over-202425923.html
I've read this several times over the years but without the microscopic focus on Kavanaugh's role.
Sometimes it's not about what you know but what you can prove. The Clintons have owned the FBI for a very long time! Taken from the story...
I showed him his FBI ‘302’ witness statement from the earlier, superficial Fiske probe. He had never seen the words attributed to him before.
Mr Knowlton was stunned. It contradicted his express assertions. He said the FBI had tried repeatedly to badger him into changing his story on key facts.
Had the Starr team stuck their necks out on Foster who knows what would have happened? If Starr looked into Foster's murder and had the FBI discredit this witness, it would have invalidated the whole investigation.
To this day, I personally think Foster was murdered. Sometimes people do get away with murder. Sometimes those people are Clintons.
Mr Kavanaugh was then a cocky 30 year-old from the affluent WASP suburbs of Northwest Washington, very much the country club boy with a high sense of his status, and Georgetown Prep and Yale Law School behind him, though only with a humdrum Cum Laude. If anybody was going to wind up my hard-scrabble, salt-of-America witness, it was this child of privilege.
Actually, he's Catholic and not a WASP (I am an authority on both and drink booze with a stiff upper lip), but let's not pick nicks on the character assassination.
Does this tell you what the author is trying to accomplish?
Possibly. But Mr Knowlton and his lawyer later filed a federal lawsuit against FBI agents he claimed were working for Brett Kavanaugh, alleging witness tampering and a conspiracy to violate his civil rights. This eventually reached the US District Court in Washington DC. The quixotic case was impossible to prove. Yet it was the action of a man who clearly felt wronged. To this day he blames Mr Kavanaugh personally.
Okay, this is new.
But then I have to believe the guy who is hired to be part of the team to get Clinton would go out of his way to intimidate a murder witness, to cover up the Foster murder which would inevitably lead directly to the Clintons.
This would be like Robert Mueller intimidating a witness who saw a dead hooker in Donald Trump's penthouse because Mueller only wants MuhRussia.
Does this pass the sniff test?
BPTactical
10-03-2018, 19:47
I feel pretty much like Abe Lincoln....
...I'm sick of Fords Theater
BPTactical
10-03-2018, 20:47
And Cloture filed!
Bailey Guns
10-04-2018, 06:26
FBI finds no corroborating evidence in new report. Go figure. And all those complaints sounded so legit. Vote already.
https://f002.backblazeb2.com/file/files-gab/image/bb-5bb5c7f3cddcd.jpeg
hurley842002
10-04-2018, 07:28
Just watched an ad paid for by the ACLU, comparing Kavanaugh to Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby, urging Corey Gardner to vote no on his confirmation. Absolute scum these people are.
ChickNorris
10-04-2018, 07:33
Yeah. I saw that too a day back. Seriously turned my stomach.
I'm sooo done with the noise & nonsense.
Great-Kazoo
10-04-2018, 08:20
Just watched an ad paid for by the ACLU, comparing Kavanaugh to Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby, urging Corey Gardner to vote no on his confirmation. Absolute scum these people are.
NOW, they turn on him. Wonder if HRC approved this ad ;)
The democrats will say the investigation was not done thoroughly and will discount it. It was just a ploy on their part.
hurley842002
10-04-2018, 08:38
NOW, they turn on him. Wonder if HRC approved this ad ;)Ha! Anything to stay the course of destroying Kavanaugh and ultimately the US, even if it means betraying your husband.
hollohas
10-04-2018, 09:03
NOW, they turn on him. Wonder if HRC approved this ad ;)They'll never turn on him. It just happens to be useful to include him in this particular argument.
BTW, the Clinton's are starting their "we are a happy couple, look at us doing stuff in public together" campaign. They only do that if there is going to be a campaign. She must be gearing up for another shot.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6239129/Bill-Hillary-New-York-Radio-City-Christina-Aguilera-concert-Huma-Abedin.html
hollohas
10-04-2018, 09:05
The democrats will say the investigation was not done thoroughly and will discount it. It was just a ploy on their part.They never cared about the investigation. They just wanted more time to move on to other arguments. They have given up on the sexual assault allegations and have moved onto questions about his drinking, lying and temperament.
Zundfolge
10-04-2018, 11:24
They never cared about the investigation. They just wanted more time to move on to other arguments.
That's part of it, I think the other part of their strategy is to undermine the public's trust in all its institutions. They want to sow chaos and they want to push the more unhinged members of their base to violence (and thus trigger a violent response from "our" side ... causing a spiral of escalation).
I really think the Democrat plan is to burn it all down and build their Marxist utopia in America's ashes.
68Charger
10-04-2018, 12:18
Ha! Anything to stay the course of destroying Kavanaugh and ultimately the US, even if it means betraying your husband.
Well, this one is begging to be a Nike ad meme
Mass psychosis today in the socials. FBI is now a criminal organization helping in the cover up. Libs are even ignoring their own media reports.
I think the Left has lost control of their angry masses/emotions and even ability to perceive reality. The narrative shift isn't just to find more dirt/reasons but to slowly back off the smear (which has failed) but the Left's base isn't moving with the shift.
High profile leftists still spouting off as if Ford is still credible and Kavanaugh lied.
I would say be ready for anything these next couple of days. To reframe what this means; The Court has been a powerful weapon against the country to advance progressivism and they are going to lose control on Saturday.
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Attorneys for Ford call FBI review of Kavanaugh allegations 'stain on the process'
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/409917-attorneys-for-ford-call-fbi-review-of-allegations-stain-on-the
Ford's attorneys also provided Wray with eight additional witnesses who they said were willing to speak with agents, but were not contacted. They noted that Ford herself was not interviewed as part of the review of her allegations.
Eight more "witnesses" but won't release the medical records or poly video.
And each time Ford speaks her testimony changes; poly hand written statement, WashPoo, Senate. Probably not a good thing to keep putting her out there.
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Poll: Amid Kavanaugh Confirmation Battle, Democratic Enthusiasm Edge Evaporates
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/03/654015874/poll-amid-kavanaugh-confirmation-battle-democratic-enthusiasm-edge-evaporates
Summary: Dims had a 10% "enthusiasm" margin in July. It's now 2%. This is NPR with error +/- 3.8%.
If Dim can't distance themselves from the smear/hoax this will continue to get worse.
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BREAKING: Swing Vote Jeff Flake Concedes ‘No Corroboration’ Of Ford’s Claims In FBI Report
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36699/bbreaking-swing-vote-jeff-flake-concedes-no-paul-bois?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=051717-news&utm_campaign=dwtwitter
"I think Susan Collins was quoted saying it was very thorough but no new corroborative information came out of it. That’s accurate," Flake told reporters after reviewing the FBI report on Thursday.
An excellent graphical representation of this circus...
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1047931123110539264
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dor_zOHU4AA9Yv8.jpg:small
68Charger
10-04-2018, 14:07
Troll level: expert- Do NOT try this at home, kids... he's a trained professional!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YZFZev26eo
Bailey Guns
10-04-2018, 15:13
^^ Brilliant! Stone her. That'll put a stop to a bunch of this progressive bullshit.
Troll level: expert- Do NOT try this at home, kids... he's a trained professional!
[snip vid]
Brilliant satire until you realize...
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/58868bd71200003e0aad9585.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnyMJErXoAAdmke.jpg:small
68Charger
10-04-2018, 17:32
Brilliant satire until you realize...
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/58868bd71200003e0aad9585.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnyMJErXoAAdmke.jpg:small
You just can't fix stupid
Great-Kazoo
10-04-2018, 18:02
You just can't fix stupid
She's a PLO operative, of course they will believe anything when it comes to Islam. Seeing how tolerant & diverse they are when it comes to woman's & gays rights.
Bailey Guns
10-04-2018, 19:32
You just can't fix stupid
C'mon. We've been over this. You can fix stupid. It's just not generally legal.
68Charger
10-04-2018, 19:42
C'mon. We've been over this. You can fix stupid. It's just not generally legal.
Ok, you got me... I can't fix stupid and get away with it.
So it's been nine pages of discussion; have we decided who we want for SCOTUS yet?
Aloha_Shooter
10-04-2018, 20:08
I'd like Kavanaugh to replace Kennedy immediately and the other three under consideration to replace Ginsberg, Sotomayor, and Kagan just as soon as it can be arranged.
Zundfolge
10-04-2018, 20:53
So it's been nine pages of discussion; have we decided who we want for SCOTUS yet?
Anyone that causes Democrats to lose their fucking minds at a bare minimum.
hurley842002
10-05-2018, 08:54
51-49 PASS!
51-49 PASS!
Ouch, lol.
I'll probably start seeing Not My Judge bumper stickers by Monday.
I can name several democrats that should be processed through a sewage treatment facility.
It wasn't the final vote. Today's vote was on a motion to hold the confirmation vote. There's a technical term for it but it eludes me.
It's not a done deal yet.
DenverGP
10-05-2018, 09:38
51-49 PASS!
Think that was just the Cloture vote (voting to end debate and move to the final vote).
Final vote coming up any time now.
hurley842002
10-05-2018, 09:44
Well aware that it wasn't the final vote, but still one step closer.
DenverGP
10-05-2018, 10:08
Yup, and should be a good indicator of the final vote
Bombshell...
Friend of Christine Blasey Ford reportedly felt pressure to revisit statement on allegations
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/friend-of-christine-blasey-ford-reportedly-felt-pressure-to-revisit-statement-on-allegations
Keyser told the investigators that she was -- as the Journal notes -- urged to clarify her statement by Monica McLean, a former FBI agent and friend of Ford’s, the paper reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
McLean is the friend Ford helped with her polygraph exam per the old boyfriend. McLean also lives in Delaware where Ford claimed she was prior to her testimony.
This is huge and starts to expose the "working group."
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Something big is up and all I can find is speculation. The FBI found something that is likely very bad for Dims. Grassley is now asking Ford's counsel for all communications with Democrats. This letter was sent yesterday...
https://twitter.com/senorrinhatch/status/1048204862582923264
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/grassley-repeats-request-of-katz-bromwich-banks-to-provide-evidence-cited-reported-but-never-provided-to-committee
I urge you once again, now for the third time in writing, to turn over the therapy notes, polygraph materials, and communications with The Washington Post that Dr. Ford has relied upon as evidence. In addition to the evidence I requested in my October 2 letter, in light of recently uncovered information, please turn over records and descriptions of direct or indirect communications between Dr. Ford or her representatives and any of the following: (1) U.S. Senators or their staffs, particularly the offices of Senators Feinstein and Hirono, other than your communications with me and my staff in preparation for the September 27 hearing; (2) the alleged witnesses identified by Dr. Ford (Leland Keyser, Mark Judge, and Patrick “P.J.” Smyth); and (3) Debbie Ramirez, Julie Swetnick, or their representatives.
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Conservative Twitter is saying Flake is a yes but Collins is a no. I think McConnell has a very busy 24 hours.
The folks voting against Kavanaugh (R or D) have to fully own the hoax. Even the weak "temperament" concerns are a result of the hoax.
Aloha_Shooter
10-05-2018, 11:23
Collins has been a flaky RINO for decades. I'm (pleasantly) surprised Flake is a yes, if he is. There will be a bigger story to tell about the collusion amongst top-ranking Democrats to destroy Kavanaugh's reputation in a way that makes the Bork and Thomas hearings look like pleasant picnics in the park. I hope the GOP keeps hammering that home over the next month to show people why Democrats must not be allowed any measure of power in the federal government.
Think that was just the Cloture vote (voting to end debate and move to the final vote).
Final vote coming up any time now.
Believe once cloture is invoked there is a 30 hour wait.
How much $$$ wasted on this kavanaugh baloney? Not to mention how much lost time of productivity $$$? [emoji35]
Great-Kazoo
10-05-2018, 13:11
I hope the GOP keeps hammering that home over the next month to show people why Democrats must not be allowed any measure of power in the federal government.
The R's don't have the spine to do anything but lay down. I'm surprised Graham went off script during the hearings.
Sen. Collins is now speaking as to why she voted Yes and is citing Kavanaugh’s previous decisions. I think she’s doing a great job to promote him at this point.
The R's don't have the spine to do anything but lay down. I'm surprised Graham went off script during the hearings.
McCain is dead and there's a whole lot to what he did behind the scenes that we'll never know.
It's a new world out there right now. Testes are descending at a rapid rate.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dow_Q4OX0AAl7pA.jpg:small
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COLLINS IS A YES!!!!
Honey Badger282.8
10-05-2018, 14:31
Democrat Manchin is also a yes.
Democrat Manchin is also a yes.
That should put us at 51 unless Libs assassinate some Senators.
And don't put it past them. Socials are all rage right now. [LOL]
Zundfolge
10-05-2018, 15:54
I'm surprised Graham went off script during the hearings.
My wife and I have been discussing this "New Lindsey" thing ... we're beginning to wonder if he hasn't actually been red-pilled (because 1. he's not up for re-election this year and 2. he's not that good an actor but seems genuine) ... can you imagine such a thing?
68Charger
10-05-2018, 15:57
That should put us at 51 unless Libs assassinate some Senators.
And don't put it past them. Socials are all rage right now. [LOL]
I just refer to it as "socialist media"
The Graham thing is interesting to me because I was impressed by his outburst. However, listening to Nina Totenburg (the lady from NPR that always reports on court related matters) basically said that a lot of people were talking about his outburst, but she's been around and seen him do it enough times that she wasn't impressed by it.
I don't follow the government so I don't know if this is something he's known for.
Aloha_Shooter
10-05-2018, 16:54
I'm pleasantly surprised that Collins is a Yes, not so surprised that she tried to give Feinstein cover. "Honorable woman" ... pffffeeeehhhh ... Feinstein has been a dishonorable partisan and ideological extremist since the first day she entered Congress.
I just refer to it as "socialist media"
Yeah but that's where the over narrative is happening. This is why there is such an effort to censor.
A really good CO twitter user was banned this morning. "Poof" gone. All message, tweets, responses.
68Charger
10-05-2018, 17:35
Yeah but that's where the over narrative is happening. This is why there is such an effort to censor.
A really good CO twitter user was banned this morning. "Poof" gone. All message, tweets, responses.
Hence the name, the platforms only support leftist ideas... so they're socialist media in my head.
Hence the name, the platforms only support leftist ideas... so they're socialist media in my head.
I'll put it this way...
There are millions of lefties threatening right now to step off the line. They need to understand the consequences.
Staying silent and voting every 2-4 years wasn't working. Fighting is how we beat Clinton, I'm convinced it how we're getting Kavanaugh through.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-05-2018, 19:00
Yeah but that's where the over narrative is happening. This is why there is such an effort to censor.
A really good CO twitter user was banned this morning. "Poof" gone. All message, tweets, responses.
Who?
Who?
Profile is nuked now.
No one major (like most of us), just one of us in the trenches and a fellow gun owner. Good guy! Gone. No explanation or ability to reach out.
ETA: ArmedBirddog
Again, profile nuked. Some stuff still cached.
Bailey Guns
10-05-2018, 19:26
I'm apparently in the minority but I listened to Collins' speech and I thought it was just more political, touchy-feely, bullshit. Very little other than platitudes.
She kept saying the FBI report revealed the truth about Kavanaugh and his accusers. No it didn't. We didn't learn a damn thing that we didn't already know. And, yeah...she went on about how DiFi was soooo honorable. WTF ever.
The only part of that speech that was worthwhile was the last thing she said..."I'm going to support Judge Kavanaugh".
Fuck her.
Not to mention her monotone delivery. Yawn.
kidicarus13
10-05-2018, 22:14
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Says it all
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The Senate vote is scheduled for 5:00PM ET/3:00PM MT today.
CSPAN using anything other than IE is the best place to watch online.
https://www.c-span.org/
No real news or new FakeNews today. MSM is parroting Dim talking points that we've already heard with new ones thrown in about how bad the US Senate is because it equalizes representation from the states (not a direct democracy).
Soros funded orgs are in DC screeching.
As if the 17th Amendment wasn't bad enough.
JohnnyDrama
10-06-2018, 11:27
The Senate vote is scheduled for 5:00PM ET/3:00PM MT today.
CSPAN using anything other than IE is the best place to watch online.
https://www.c-span.org/
No real news or new FakeNews today. MSM is parroting Dim talking points that we've already heard with new ones thrown in about how bad the US Senate is because it equalizes representation from the states (not a direct democracy).
Soros funded orgs are in DC screeching.
Last time I watched C-Span was during the Clinton so called "Crime Bill" (that's when I realized I had a problem). What monkeyshines! I'd watch it if I didn't have so many other things to do. Not that I'm really that interested, more to be able to say I watched it. If any of you do, you'll have to report on any "irregularities" that occur.
I imagine socialist media is in meltdown mode. Dims figure they've lost this one. Gotta organize protests.
As if the 17th Amendment wasn't bad enough.
Which one is that again? ;)
Ginsburg Forgets 14th Amendment, Audience Has To Give Her Constitution
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36743/ginsburg-forgets-14th-amendment-audience-has-give-ryan-saavedra
Ginsburg couldn't find her ass with 2 hands and a map....and a flashlight. Lifetime appointments don't seem to account for the potential loss of someone's mental faculties. As long as they can still fog a mirror and cast the vote in the desired political direction, they're good-to-go. [Bang]
On the TV on C-SPAN2 (211 on Dish).
ETA: Voting in 5 minutes
DenverGP
10-06-2018, 13:49
Holy shit the left loonies in the gallery are showing just how insane they are.
They remind me of my 4 year old grand-daughter throwing a tantrum.
50-48
Associate Justice Kavanaugh
Don't forget your BeersForBrett tonight!
Calling the roll for Daines... At his daughter's wedding.
Won't change outcome or official roll call.
Holy shit the left loonies in the gallery are showing just how insane they are.
They remind me of my 4 year old grand-daughter throwing a tantrum.
They've been given positive reinforcement of this by the left. They can't get what they largely want without the manipulation of the courts.
They've been given positive reinforcement of this by the left. They can't get what they largely want without the manipulation of the courts.
Which is why five of our Justices need to stop sleeping with a pillow ASAP.
Zundfolge
10-06-2018, 14:38
https://i.redd.it/472wfpgbclq11.jpg
Jeffrey Lebowski
10-06-2018, 15:33
https://www.ar-15.co/attachment.php?attachmentid=76314&d=1538861609
BPTactical
10-06-2018, 18:13
https://i.redd.it/472wfpgbclq11.jpg
Bitch.......SLAP!
Now I'm reading articles about how this will mean a Democrat tidalwave in the mid-terms. I think they're whistling past the graveyard.
This was also a wakeup call for conservatives.
Bailey Guns
10-06-2018, 19:02
Now I'm reading articles about how this will mean a Democrat tidalwave in the mid-terms.
They should tell that to Heidi Heitkamp. She's fallen to 14 points behind her republican challenger.
Grant H.
10-06-2018, 19:12
They should tell that to Heidi Heitkamp. She's fallen to 14 points behind her republican challenger.
I was just in ND this week.
She is getting hammered, at least from what I saw.
JohnnyDrama
10-06-2018, 19:21
Now I'm reading articles about how this will mean a Democrat tidalwave in the mid-terms.
That's funny. I just saw a headline stating the opposite.
Grant H.
10-06-2018, 19:31
That's funny. I just saw a headline stating the opposite.
I think it's largely just going to mean more votes across the board.
Republitards are angry.
Democraps are angry.
Lots of people will get out and vote.
hollohas
10-06-2018, 19:44
Which is why five of our Justices need to stop sleeping with a pillow ASAP.No kidding.
hurley842002
10-06-2018, 20:08
https://www.ar-15.co/attachment.php?attachmentid=76314&d=1538861609.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181007/2e789d4709eed978c62ea916f775aa3e.jpg
Jeffrey Lebowski
10-06-2018, 20:38
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https://www.ar-15.co/attachment.php?attachmentid=76316&d=1538879919
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Jeffrey Lebowski
10-06-2018, 20:39
https://www.ar-15.co/attachment.php?attachmentid=76317&d=1538879987
76317
That Ruth Buzzy Ginsburg meme is funny.
JohnnyDrama
10-06-2018, 21:04
Drinking buddies?
Great-Kazoo
10-06-2018, 22:22
Now I'm reading articles about how this will mean a Democrat tidalwave in the mid-terms. I think they're whistling past the graveyard.
.
The state of AZ legislature has a proclamation going out Monday making October, Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh Month.
Just saw a recent vid of Ginsberg. Trump better be working on a list of who to replace her with. She did not look good.
BPTactical
10-07-2018, 14:30
Just saw a recent vid of Ginsberg. Trump better be working on a list of who to replace her with. She did not look good.
Amy Coney Barrett on deck...
The left will absolutely lose their shit if DJ seats a 3rd Justice.
I can't wait[Muaha][Muaha]
Whaddya ya know....elections really do have consequences.
Amy Coney Barrett on deck...
The left will absolutely lose their shit if DJ seats a 3rd Justice.
I can't wait[Muaha][Muaha]
Whaddya ya know....elections really do have consequences.
Yes, Yes, Yes, YES, YES, YES
Picking a woman means they'll have to get really creative with their smears.
I keep telling them we are coming for your abortions. If I don't need a gun because we have 911, they don't need abortion when they have birth control pills.
[ROFL2]
Ginsburg should also be seeing some increased stress in the next round of SCOTUS hearings...if she notices what's going on. We'll see if that has any affect.
Grant H.
10-07-2018, 17:23
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1968/45117940782_870923e3ca_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2bJVeUJ)1538869702082.facebook_1538869697349[1] (https://flic.kr/p/2bJVeUJ) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on Flickr
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1968/45117940782_870923e3ca_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2bJVeUJ)1538869702082.facebook_1538869697349[1] (https://flic.kr/p/2bJVeUJ) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on FlickrAlso not enthusiastic about Kavanaugh as a libertarian. The lefts antics are despicable.
Hillary Clinton is still finding ways to denigrate democracy (https://nypost.com/2018/10/06/hillary-clinton-is-still-finding-ways-to-denigrate-democracy/)
...an excerpt:
Willing to destroy any part of government they cannot corrupt with partisanship, members of the self-declared resistance are tearing America apart because the election didn’t go their way. They have unleashed a whirlwind of fanatical hate, with violence now routinely threatened and sometimes carried out.
There are no random events. It is a straight line from the unprecedented plot by President Barack Obama’s administration to infiltrate and wiretap the Trump campaign in the summer of 2016 to the scurrilous accusations of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh.
The probe by special counsel Robert Mueller has turned up nothing of significance against the president, yet it plods onward, searching for anything that would justify its existence.
In that context, it is beyond mildly interesting that a former FBI agent reportedly tried to pressure a friend of Christine Blasey Ford into changing her sworn statement to the Senate so it would support Ford’s charges against Kavanaugh. And one of Ford’s lawyers happens to be the lawyer for the fired former deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe.
Throw in the crooked James Comey’s drum-beating against Kavanaugh and the return of Obama to the campaign trail, and it’s clear the seamy efforts of the former administration are still going strong.
As the Kavanaugh catastrophe demonstrates, our nation is paying a heavy price for the unpatriotic attempts to abuse government power to try to pick a president, then undo the election. In a dangerous world where America has real enemies, efforts to undermine Trump’s legitimacy often align with the interests of foreign powers. John Kerry’s traitorous advice to Iran to wait for the next president are a prime example.
To be clear, what we just witnessed, and what we have seen for two years, is not a case of mere political differences, which the Founders recognized as inevitable and even desirable.
Instead, we face something more akin to the combustible climate historian Christopher Clark described as the origins of World War I. In his book, “The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914,” Clark illustrates how none of the great powers wanted war, but all felt free to escalate the build-up in the certainty that the other side would back down.
Something similar is happening here, and our nation could be sleepwalking into a second civil war. Even though justice and fairness prevailed this time, the stained confirmation process must serve as a wake-up alarm.
It is a recognition of the danger we face that, amidst the threats from Democrats to impeach Kavanaugh, we also hear calls for unity and healing. I’m all for them — as long as they’re not a fig leaf wrapped around gross wrongdoing.
For one thing, the leak of the confidential letter Ford wrote to Sen. Dianne Feinstein must be treated as a crime. As several senators noted, the leak falsely weaponized a charge about a 36-year-old event, without having any corroborating evidence. Ford wanted to remain private, but the leaker wanted to create a public spectacle that pitted her and Kavanaugh against each other like two caged beasts.
The leaker succeeded and provoked other accusers to make charges without evidence, leading to a cascade of smoke but no fire. Among the casualties was the presumption of innocence, a bedrock of our legal system and Western civilization itself. Ford and Kavanaugh both say their families received death threats.
For another thing, the role of Ford’s lawyers must be investigated. One was hired at the recommendation of Feinstein’s office, and another represents McCabe — suggesting this was a political operation from the start.
Moreover, the failure of those lawyers to turn over key documents to the Senate reeks of bad faith and perhaps something far more sinister.
Less surprising was that the fiasco revealed how the liberal media keep behaving like battering rams against Trump. The wild stories about Kavanaugh in high school and college, coming from NBC, The New Yorker and others aimed to paint him as too toxic for confirmation. Shamefully, Ivy League law schools piled on.
Their failure to stop him is cause for relief, but nothing more. The media and academia embarrassed themselves again, but show no signs of ending their blatant bias.
hollohas
10-07-2018, 19:24
Hillary Clinton is still finding ways to denigrate democracy (https://nypost.com/2018/10/06/hillary-clinton-is-still-finding-ways-to-denigrate-democracy/)
...an excerpt:I read this article today too and that first paragraph of what you quoted is one that stood out to me too. Very well written.
Jeffrey Lebowski
10-07-2018, 19:35
Also not enthusiastic about Kavanaugh as a libertarian. The lefts antics are despicable.
100% on with this and the original comment.
Grant H.
10-07-2018, 19:58
Also not enthusiastic about Kavanaugh as a libertarian. The lefts antics are despicable.
100% on with this and the original comment.
We just have to keep this cohesive mindset among conservatives through the midterms.
Jeffrey Lebowski
10-07-2018, 20:38
I should clarify - I'm not libertarian, just on board with the sentiment that I'm not wow'd but I was disgusted by the left.
Not to worry, I'll vote against the Dems every chance I get.
OtterbatHellcat
10-07-2018, 23:08
*runs in...…
Chuck Todd can suck both my nuts!
….runs out*
New questions raised about Avenatti claims regarding Kavanaugh (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-questions-raised-about-avenatti-claims-regarding-kavanaugh/ar-BBOUy0Z)
When Sen. Chuck Grassley referred attorney Michael Avenatti and his client Julie Swetnick to the Justice Department for criminal investigation Thursday, he cited Swetnick's interview with NBC News as evidence the two were trying to mislead the Senate Judiciary Committee.
In the NBC News interview that aired on Oct. 1, Swetnick back-tracked on or contradicted parts of her sworn statement where she alleged she witnessed then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh "cause girls to become inebriated and disoriented so they could then be 'gang raped' in a side room or bedroom by a 'train' of boys."
NBC News also found other apparent inconsistencies in a second sworn statement from another woman whose statement Avenatti provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee in a bid to bolster Swetnick's claims.
In the second statement, the unidentified woman said she witnessed Kavanaugh "spike" the punch at high school parties in order to sexually take advantage of girls. But less than 48 hours before Avenatti released her sworn statement on Twitter, the same woman told NBC News a different story.
Referring to Kavanaugh spiking the punch, "I didn't ever think it was Brett," the woman said to reporters in a phone interview arranged by Avenatti on Sept. 30 after repeated requests to speak with other witnesses who might corroborate Swetnick's claims. As soon as the call began, the woman said she never met Swetnick in high school and never saw her at parties and had only become friends with her when they were both in their 30s.
When asked in the phone interview if she ever witnessed Kavanaugh act inappropriately towards girls, the woman replied, "no." She did describe a culture of heavy drinking in high school that she took part in, and said Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge were part of that group.
In a statement Thursday about his referral of Swetnick and Avenatti for a criminal investigation, Grassley said, "When a well-meaning citizen comes forward with information relevant to the committee's work, I take it seriously?.But in the heat of partisan moments, some do try to knowingly mislead the committee. That's unfair to my colleagues, the nominees and others providing information who are seeking the truth."
Avenatti responded in a statement to NBC News saying, "Senator Grassley has just made a major mistake. Let the investigation into Kavanaugh and his lies begin."
Kavanaugh and Judge denied the allegations leveled by Swetnick and other women. Avenatti, asked about the inconsistencies within the second woman's account, said: "It is a sworn declaration that she read and signed and repeatedly stood behind."
According to the second woman's declaration that Avenatti provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee, she said: "During the years 1981-82, I witnessed firsthand Brett Kavanaugh, together with others, 'spike' the 'punch' at house parties I attended with Quaaludes and/or grain alcohol. I understood this was being done for the purpose of making girls more likely to engage in sexual acts and less likely to say 'No.'"
The statement also said that Kavanaugh was "overly aggressive and verbally abusive to girls. This conduct included inappropriate physical contact with girls of a sexual nature."
But reached by phone independently from Avenatti on Oct. 3, the woman said she only "skimmed" the declaration. After reviewing the statement, she wrote in a text on Oct. 4 to NBC News: "It is incorrect that I saw Brett spike the punch. I didn't see anyone spike the punch...I was very clear with Michael Avenatti from day one."
When pressed about abusive behavior towards girls, she wrote in a text: "I would not ever allow anyone to be abusive in my presence. Male or female."
Shortly after tweeting out the woman's allegations on Oct. 2, Avenatti confirmed to NBC News that it was the same woman interviewed by phone on Sept. 30. But when questioned on Oct. 3 about the discrepancies between what she said in the phone interview and the serious allegations in the sworn declaration, Avenatti said he was "disgusted" with NBC News. At one point, in an apparent effort to thwart the reporting process, he added in the phone call, "How about this, on background, it's not the same woman. What are you going to do with that?"
After NBC News received text messages from the woman refuting some of the claims in the declaration, NBC reached out again to Avenatti, who defended the declaration.
"I have no idea what you are talking about," he said in a text. "I have a signed declaration that states otherwise together with multiple audio recordings where she stated exactly what is in the declaration. There were also multiple witnesses to our discussions."
He sent a follow-up message moments later: "I just confirmed with her yet again that everything in the declaration is true and correct," Avenatti said. "She must have been confused by your question."
Roughly five minutes later, the woman sent a formally-worded text backing Avenatti. "Please understand that everything in the declaration is true and you should not contact me anymore regarding this issue," the text read.
But when reached by phone minutes later, the woman again insisted that she never saw Kavanaugh spike punch or act inappropriately toward women. She said she's "been consistent in what she's told Michael."
In a subsequent text on Oct. 5, she wrote, "I will definitely talk to you again and no longer Avenatti. I do not like that he twisted my words."
The knives are out for Avenatti. GOOD!!
Listened to a podcast with a progressive guy talking so much shit about that guy. No one seems to like him. I guess he thinks he's going to run for president now.
I hope he's the DNC's pick in 2020. It would be awesome.
I hope he's the DNC's pick in 2020. It would be awesome.
Slick Willie could be his VP, they'll hand out cigars at their rallies.
New questions raised about Avenatti claims regarding Kavanaugh (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-questions-raised-about-avenatti-claims-regarding-kavanaugh/ar-BBOUy0Z)
^ EVERYONE PLEASE READ THAT
[snip]
Referring to Kavanaugh spiking the punch, "I didn't ever think it was Brett," the woman said to reporters in a phone interview arranged by Avenatti on Sept. 30 after repeated requests to speak with other witnesses who might corroborate Swetnick's claims. As soon as the call began, the woman said she never met Swetnick in high school and never saw her at parties and had only become friends with her when they were both in their 30s.
[snip]
But reached by phone independently from Avenatti on Oct. 3, the woman said she only "skimmed" the declaration. After reviewing the statement, she wrote in a text on Oct. 4 to NBC News: "It is incorrect that I saw Brett spike the punch. I didn't see anyone spike the punch...I was very clear with Michael Avenatti from day one."
When pressed about abusive behavior towards girls, she wrote in a text: "I would not ever allow anyone to be abusive in my presence. Male or female."
[snip]
NBC knew Avanetti and Swetnick were full of shit BEFORE BREAKING THE STORY, didn't disclose that info, so Dims would have a third credible accuser before Kavanaugh's full Senate confirmation (he had already passed the Judiciary Committee at this point).
This isn't just about the rats abandoning the S.S. Avanetti, this is NBC trying to distance themselves from the hoax and come clean.
Jeffrey Lebowski
11-08-2018, 10:18
RBG falls, breaks 3 ribs, hospitalized.
Are we lucky enough that she’ll retire?
RBG falls, breaks 3 ribs, hospitalized.
Are we lucky enough that she?ll retire?Was Trump standing at the top of the stairs? Sure they'll find a way to blame Trump
Jeffrey Lebowski
11-08-2018, 10:30
She slipped on Kavanaugh’s spilled beer.
Schadenfreude for the liberal frau fraud.
May she recover in retirement.
Schadenfreude for the liberal frau fraud.
May she recover in retirement.
I can't wish her any fate worse than having participating the murder of 60M innocent humans, so I won't.
Libs are going to get it long and hard.
And for those of you who don't believe in God, this is what divine intervention looks like.
I can't wish her any fate worse than having participating the murder of 60M innocent humans, so I won't.
Libs are going to get it long and hard.
And for those of you who don't believe in God, this is what divine intervention looks like.
So Jesus pushed her down the stairs?
So Jesus pushed her down the stairs?
Of course.
Bailey Guns
11-08-2018, 14:45
Was it Jesus or orange Jesus?
And for those of you who don't believe in God, this is what divine intervention looks like.
We've turned our back on God. There are more Christians in China than there are in the US. If you want Him to pick sides...
We've turned our back on God. There are more Christians in China than there are in the US. If you want Him to pick sides...
We?
As a nation maybe, but the existence of the US as a safe place for Christianity matters or this wouldn't be happening. Gun rights has an important role in religious (ideological) freedom too.
And the Christians in China are at odds with the Communist government so these are not necessarily the same.
Grant H.
11-08-2018, 16:21
We've turned our back on God. There are more Christians in China than there are in the US. If you want Him to pick sides...
I agree with you that the USA has turned it's collective back on God.
I, personally, believe that the rise of liberal extremism that we see in the US today is the righteous and fair judgement placed upon the USA for our collective choices.
Great-Kazoo
11-08-2018, 17:01
So Jesus pushed her down the stairs?
No but i'm sure she said Jesus Christ!!, as she took a tumble.
Jeffrey Lebowski
11-08-2018, 19:06
Schadenfreude for the liberal frau fraud.
May she recover in retirement.
Schadenfreude is a stinky cologne. All I hoped was that she retire. :)
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