View Full Version : Homicide Suspects Trade Shots With Las Vegas Police
BushMasterBoy
07-17-2018, 13:10
This is pretty crazy video. Police chasing homicide suspects are being shot at. Police officer responds by firing back through his windshield. Video ends with bad guys slowly crashing into wall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34r4_kxmSro
Crazy reload.
Comments i see suggest he was trying to get thecar in park at the same time. I know for me you break from routine movement and usually become clumsy.
There are a lot of lessons to be learned from that video and I hope LEAs all over the country are using it to show the need for better training, keeping on a fleeing criminal, and going home at the end of their shift. Glad no good people were hurt in the filming of that video.
Batteriesnare
07-17-2018, 14:11
Comments i see suggest he was trying to get thecar in park at the same time. I know for me you break from routine movement and usually become clumsy.
Not sure, given his grip (especially LH thumb placement) I'd wager there wasn't much in the way of solid weapons manipulation training. Not judging, just observing.
Comments i see suggest he was trying to get thecar in park at the same time. I know for me you break from routine movement and usually become clumsy.
That's kind of what I was thinking as well. I've for sure fallen apart when trying to do new things under pressure.
Yet another reason why cops need M79 grenade launchers.
.455_Hunter
07-17-2018, 16:03
Maybe that officer should have been working at the Mandalay Bay last October.
Absolutely nuts what LE has to go through. LEO needed a trunk monkey to return (aimed) fire.
Another reason I love these body cameras. It's telling the whole story and not some MSM narrative of "why did you need to shoot him?!?"
Strange timeline in the video. Shooting through windshield, to clean windshield stating he's being fired at, back to shooting through the windshield, out the driver's side window, reload, and then approaching the vehicle on foot shooting into the perp's vehicle.
Strange timeline in the video. Shooting through windshield, to clean windshield stating he's being fired at, back to shooting through the windshield, out the driver's side window, reload, and then approaching the vehicle on foot shooting into the perp's vehicle.
Accurate timeline here:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CSu9c_1531783380
Wow....shooting out your own windshield. I've only seen that in movies.
You would think they would have hands-free comms, some of those one-handed maneuvers were tricky.
Glad it all worked out, looks like a clusterfuck from the start to end
Pursuit ended in an elementary school yard. Will the anti-gunners count this as a school shooting?
Back in April DPD had a similar situation in that the officer fired through the windshield. A friend took this photo.
https://s19.postimg.cc/b2fc0y3hv/2955563F-270E-4CC3-A8B8-E68B5AAF21C0.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/ow3opzw33/)
I thought general consensus was not to pursue at high speed. Either way, I wouldn't want the guy shooting his window in charge of delivering pizzas. Police work is a VERY tough profession, not everyone has the marbles for it. Not impressed.
GilpinGuy
07-18-2018, 00:14
How can you possibly know what's beyond your target when you're driving?
I thought shooting through the window was crazy, driving with his knee I assume. Glad it ended up like it did though, he went home to his family. Don't have any F's to give for the other two aholes.
How can you possibly know what's beyond your target when you're driving?
Don't know if I'll start some drama by saying this, but I don't think it's possible to use guns for work in the capacity of law enforcement and be able to 100% follow the rules of gun safety.
Will1776
07-18-2018, 12:17
Don't know if I'll start some drama by saying this, but I don't think it's possible to use guns for work in the capacity of law enforcement and be able to 100% follow the rules of gun safety.
I’m not LE but that makes sense
Don't know if I'll start some drama by saying this, but I don't think it's possible to use guns for work in the capacity of law enforcement and be able to 100% follow the rules of gun safety.
Agree
Here is a great video. Ad up front, but worth the watch.
https://youtu.be/tAI73k_rHkg
Don't know if I'll start some drama by saying this, but I don't think it's possible to use guns for work in the capacity of law enforcement and be able to 100% follow the rules of gun safety.
For 90% of the LEOs, it is, since less than 10% ever even draw their firearm and less of them actually shoot a gun. But for that other group, probably right. They still have a duty to not shoot bystanders, which, to me is what a lot of the social media angst and couch commandos have gotten upset about. Windshields can do odd things to bullets and I think it safe to say that a little luck, or guardian angel, or something was on the officers side in that one. I know that most of my friends who are LEO have had a firearm on someone, finger on the trigger, and did not shoot.
I didn't read the whole thread but just because someone is in law enforcement doesn't necessarily make them a "gun guy". Now, the guy in Irving's video is definitely a gun guy.
That video was impressive. The window of opportunity to shoot the running suspect, with a clear background, was only a second or two.
One more second and the perp would have been in front of shoppers entering/leaving the store.
Pursuit ended in an elementary school yard. Will the anti-gunners count this as a school shooting?
Of course.
"Everytown defines these incidents as any time a firearm discharges a live round inside a school building, or on a school campus or grounds. Its database, however, includes incidents where no one was injured; attempted or completed suicide, with no intent to injure others; and cases when a gun was fired unintentionally, resulting in injury or death. The list covers schools from elementary through college."
http://www.politifact.com/california/article/2018/feb/28/how-are-school-shootings-defined/
Bailey Guns
07-19-2018, 18:03
Wow...that's an amazing display of skill by that APD officer.
GilpinGuy
07-19-2018, 20:09
Don't know if I'll start some drama by saying this, but I don't think it's possible to use guns for work in the capacity of law enforcement and be able to 100% follow the rules of gun safety.
I'm no LEO either and not bashing the officer. He did what he thought was right at the time and I wasn't there.
But jeez, bad guys start launching bullets at you in public while driving. Maybe it's best to back off so THEY stop shooting? Not necessarily give up the chase. And if any innocent bystander got killed by the cops bullets, what a shitstorm. Thankfully it did end well.
OtterbatHellcat
07-19-2018, 20:36
I don't have a problem with this officers actions.
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