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Skip
07-24-2018, 11:51
National news. Such an embarrassment the Compost has become, constantly highlighting the most radical Libtarded views in the state.

Denver Post Runs Letter to Editor Suggesting Trump Should Be Executed

https://freebeacon.com/politics/denver-post-runs-letter-editor-suggesting-trump-executed/
(https://freebeacon.com/politics/denver-post-runs-letter-editor-suggesting-trump-executed/)

Gagnon then compared Trump to the Rosenbergs, who were tried and put to death for espionage in 1953. She said there are "many more actions" that should be taken against Trump.

"If it walks like a traitor, and talks like a traitor, and acts like a traitor … it is a traitor," Gagnon said. "Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were executed on a basis of far less evidence than is had on Trump and many in his administration."

Writer lives in Lakewood, retired GS-14 Indian Affairs.

For those who don't know, the Rosenbergs were Good Comrades who gave the USSR some of our nuclear tech after WWII.

Still waiting on evidence of that level against Trump. After nearly two years, it all seems to be made up (Steele Dossier). I guess they got the 12 Russians but no still connection to LiterallyHitler.

Dims seemed to have transposed attacks against the US with losing an election.

Irving
07-24-2018, 11:53
Seems to me people should be more worried about tarrifs + income tax and other things that are continuing to ruin America.

roberth
07-24-2018, 12:18
Maybe she should look at President Trump's predecessor, but no, communists always point fingers outwards, they NEVER run a self-evaluation.

Zundfolge
07-24-2018, 12:25
The problem with this hyperbole from the left is that ultimately its going to make it impossible for left and right to peacefully coexist in America. This will not bode well for our future, as Andrew Jackson (and the Apostle Matthew) said; "A house divided cannot stand."

Irving
07-24-2018, 12:33
The problem with this hyperbole from the left is that ultimately its going to make it impossible for left and right to peacefully coexist in America. This will not bode well for our future, as Andrew Jackson (and the Apostle Matthew) said; "A house divided cannot stand."

People on here say that Hillary and Barrack should be hanged with pretty regular frequency. Would you say that such lamentations make it equally difficult for left and right to peacefully coexist in America?

BushMasterBoy
07-24-2018, 12:47
I'd be happy if I could get a doctors appointment at the new VA hospital before October. Or enough medication. Or the MRI they promised. It has only taken 40 years of misdiagnosis to get this far.

DireWolf
07-24-2018, 13:09
People on here say that Hillary and Barrack should be hanged with pretty regular frequency. Would you say that such lamentations make it equally difficult for left and right to peacefully coexist in America?Not a fair comparison...

The problems with that comparison boil down to equal treatment under the law (as we are no longer supposed to be a feudal society), a nearly overwhelming preponderance of evidence of high-crimes and treason on one side (some of which is practically common-knowledge, way more than enough for due-process and indictment on capital offenses with malice against the very fabric of our Nation), and an overwhelming preponderance of hyperbole on the other side, with absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing after multiple years of investigation (with the increasing vitriol directed in that direction only serving to highlight the hypocrisy and adding insult to injury)


Either the law is applied (more or less) equally or we should fully expect that sooner or later it will be respected by none (most definately not a place anybody wants to be...)

Also, regardless of Left/Right or where someone is from, if they're here, then they're either Americans or enjoying our hospitality and should act accordingly or move somewhere more appropriate to their world-view, as the hypocritical, seditious, and/or surly-guest mentality is getting more than a bit tiresome....

Irving
07-24-2018, 13:12
I think that one could find evidence of treason from a very high percentage of politicians. I don't think it really matters the reason that people call for someone's death. In the end it's not really news worthy unless it happens.

izzy
07-24-2018, 13:35
I think the point that people are overly divided is a valid one. The political situation really seems to have devolved into "Us vs. Them", similar to a sports rivalry. People really don't seem to care what each other think at this point. You have a D next to your name then you're wrong and I'm going to call you names. You have an R next to your name then you're wrong and I also will call you names. Deep down I don't think that we're all that far apart in what we want on one side or the other. The divide only seems to get worse however and I think it's dangerous. I agree with the House Divided comment and feel that it's being used against both sides even by their own party. The worst part for me is that I can't imagine a way to stop what I perceive to be a run away train. Guess I just grit my teeth and prepare for impact.

Skip
07-24-2018, 13:36
I think that one could find evidence of treason from a very high percentage of politicians. I don't think it really matters the reason that people call for someone's death. In the end it's not really news worthy unless it happens.

What it means...


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

What some think it means...


I don't like that person


It's actually a pretty high bar.

Irving
07-24-2018, 13:37
I think the point that people are overly divided is a valid one. The political situation really seems to have devolved into "Us vs. Them", similar to a sports rivalry. People really don't seem to care what each other think at this point. You have a D next to your name then you're wrong and I'm going to call you names. You have an R next to your name then you're wrong and I also will call you names. Deep down I don't think that we're all that far apart in what we want on one side or the other. The divide only seems to get worse however and I think it's dangerous. I agree with the House Divided comment and feel that it's being used against both sides even by their own party. The worst part for me is that I can't imagine a way to stop what I perceive to be a run away train. Guess I just grit my teeth and prepare for impact.

Yup, pretty much. The next economic collapse could bring people together if enough people are convinced that it was the government's fault. However, I don't think that's going to happen at all. For the same reasons that Trump was elected, a socialist of some flavor will be elected and things will get much, much worse. sad face.

Irving
07-24-2018, 13:39
What it means...



What some think it means...




It's actually a pretty high bar.

That's about the truth. I should have lowered my finger pointing to illegal/unconstitutional behavior, rather than treasonous behavior.

Skip
07-24-2018, 14:15
That's about the truth. I should have lowered my finger pointing to illegal/unconstitutional behavior, rather than treasonous behavior.

A lot of people confuse sedition with treason too. Treason is a whole other ball park and it's why the death penalty is a potential sentence.

Either way, nothing to justify Trump's death sentence has been proved with anything other than Fusion GPS/DNC/Clinton FakeNews documents. Nunes even got the FISA warrant app released (although redacted) and shows the fake Steele Dossier was the only exhibit.

These people are nutters and are going to burn down the country because they lost a rigged election.

WETWRKS
07-24-2018, 14:21
Russia didn’t cause me to vote for Trump...Hillary caused me to vote for Trump. And I don’t even like Trump.

Rumline
07-24-2018, 14:41
Deep down I don't think that we're all that far apart in what we want on one side or the other.
I used to think this was true but I don't any more. Most liberals I talk to want open borders (without calling it such of course), class warfare (punish businesses through regulation, tax the "rich" to pay for free healthcare and college tuition), gun bans, and no restrictions on abortion. Even on things that should be a no-brainer like clean water and good schools for our kids R and D disagree. D not only want clean water but to save every little useless species of guppy that is ever so slightly different from the guppies a few miles down. D want to abolish charter schools because they "rob" money from public schools. The only people I talk to who I could consider middle of the road are the politically-disconnected, as in, "I couldn't care less about politics, hey let's play xbox".

Skip
07-24-2018, 14:43
Russia didn’t cause me to vote for Trump...Hillary caused me to vote for Trump. And I don’t even like Trump.

So you openly admit to being a Nazi on the internet then?

[Sarcasm2]

Irving
07-24-2018, 15:07
If I were someone hell bent on saving every single species of animal, I'd suggest that if we don't need every species of guppy, that we don't need every different model of handgun. Is it comparable? Not really. It does open conversation though.

Bailey Guns
07-24-2018, 16:44
I used to think this was true but I don't any more. Most liberals I talk to want open borders (without calling it such of course), class warfare (punish businesses through regulation, tax the "rich" to pay for free healthcare and college tuition), gun bans, and no restrictions on abortion. Even on things that should be a no-brainer like clean water and good schools for our kids R and D disagree. D not only want clean water but to save every little useless species of guppy that is ever so slightly different from the guppies a few miles down. D want to abolish charter schools because they "rob" money from public schools. The only people I talk to who I could consider middle of the road are the politically-disconnected, as in, "I couldn't care less about politics, hey let's play xbox".

Agreed. I don't think a true conservative has anything in common (in terms of the direction in which the country is taken) with a true progressive.

Even on other levels...conservatives are generally of the live and let live mentality. Progressives are of the live like I do, or how I want you to, or else I will attempt to force you to through one means or another, mentality.

izzy
07-24-2018, 17:18
I used to think this was true but I don't any more. Most liberals I talk to want open borders (without calling it such of course), class warfare (punish businesses through regulation, tax the "rich" to pay for free healthcare and college tuition), gun bans, and no restrictions on abortion. Even on things that should be a no-brainer like clean water and good schools for our kids R and D disagree. D not only want clean water but to save every little useless species of guppy that is ever so slightly different from the guppies a few miles down. D want to abolish charter schools because they "rob" money from public schools. The only people I talk to who I could consider middle of the road are the politically-disconnected, as in, "I couldn't care less about politics, hey let's play xbox".

Not saying there aren't differences that just plain old won't be agreed on. In general though there seem to be two extremes that are making things look way further apart than they actually are. Saying rationally that you want thing X or thing Y and talking about it is very different than you're on the other side and I must physically attack you. It's natural to compartmentalize people into nice little segments but people on either side are far more complex than that. It's really difficult to say all R's or all D's want some list of things. I know plenty of Ds who love firearms for instance and quite a few Rs who care very strongly about conserving all the useless species of guppy as you put it.

In general a lot of the things the sides argue about are a sign of just how successful our society has become. You think the original settlers of our country, maybe even 150 years back, were thriving enough to even consider half this garbage? I'm pretty sure most families in war torn 3rd world countries don't give a damn about guppies or charter schools.

Gman
07-24-2018, 17:24
It seems like they don't teach civics in public schools anymore.

Irving
07-24-2018, 17:32
Agreed. I don't think a true conservative has anything in common (in terms of the direction in which the country is taken) with a true progressive.

Even on other levels...conservatives are generally of the live and let live mentality. Progressives are of the live like I do, or how I want you to, or else I will attempt to force you to through one means or another, mentality.

I don't think this is correct at all, but your belief isn't necessarily an issue with your thinking so much as it is a result of the digital world in which we live today. I'll expand later when I'm not at a birthday party.

izzy
07-24-2018, 17:35
It seems like they don't teach civics in public schools anymore.

Now that you mention it I don't recall taking any class called civics. Though I guess you could say I had a bit of an alternative education.

rondog
07-24-2018, 19:26
It seems like they don't teach civics in public schools anymore.

Not since the 60's.

Aloha_Shooter
07-24-2018, 20:28
People on here say that Hillary and Barrack should be hanged with pretty regular frequency. Would you say that such lamentations make it equally difficult for left and right to peacefully coexist in America?

I've suggested they both wear orange jumpsuits for a fair number of years but have never suggested execution. For one thing, the last thing we need is to deify Obama by making him a martyr. A living symbol of the wages of corruption would be great (but never happen).

Bailey Guns
07-24-2018, 20:30
Yeah, I don't recall anyone saying they should be hanged, either. But I haven't read every single post ever made here, nor do I recall every one I've read.

Irving
07-24-2018, 21:32
I've suggested they both wear orange jumpsuits for a fair number of years but have never suggested execution. For one thing, the last thing we need is to deify Obama by making him a martyr. A living symbol of the wages of corruption would be great (but never happen).


Yeah, I don't recall anyone saying they should be hanged, either. But I haven't read every single post ever made here, nor do I recall every one I've read.

Don't ask me to find specific posts, because who knows how many hundreds of threads I'd have to look through. Also, if I found one, I wouldn't want to draw attention to anyone in particular like they were the only one, because they weren't. I'm not trying to say that people shouldn't hold that opinion either, only that it is definitely not exclusive to the other side.

Bailey Guns
07-25-2018, 06:25
I completely agree that hatred and irrational behavior is not exclusive to one side. But it's far, far less common, especially coming from more prominent figures on the right than it is the left. That's how I see it anyway. On the other hand, ignorance and stupidity know no political bounds.

Aloha_Shooter
07-25-2018, 07:23
Don't ask me to find specific posts, because who knows how many hundreds of threads I'd have to look through. Also, if I found one, I wouldn't want to draw attention to anyone in particular like they were the only one, because they weren't. I'm not trying to say that people shouldn't hold that opinion either, only that it is definitely not exclusive to the other side.

Well, you made a very specific allegation WRT people on this board, one that contradicts my memory (although I have not read every post on this board, far from it). That's a Chris Cuomo-esque or Chris Matthews-ish behavior, alleging something vile on the part of people who oppose Obama or Clinton without any documented support. I'm sure that's not your intent but it's the way it comes across.

Irving
07-25-2018, 07:30
I guess I don't see what the problem is. If you did see a post like that, would you say anything? Usually no one does, so they aren't memorable, in addition to people generally having a blind spot to people whom are "on thier side" I'm not surprised most are drawing a blank.

Skip
07-25-2018, 09:22
I've used Advanced Search and can't find anyone here suggesting Obama be hanged. I used the phrase "Obama" and "hang" also "Obama" and "execute" Got a lot of noise. Then I used "Obama hang" and got nothing. Then I used "Obama should be hang" and got...


The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search

What I did see in the returns was a lot of posts using the word Obama with a slew of criminals that posters said should be hanged; child abusers, murdering illegals, etc... And a quote about how the Continental Congress would hang together during the Revolutionary War.

I could spend all day looking!

But this board is not a newspaper and the posters here are not "journalists" informing the public. The comments here are not published and delivered physical/digitally to millions of homes (I honesty don't know what the Compost's circulation/view numbers are these days). That OpEd was published by the editor. It wasn't just the echo chamber in some crazy cat lady's head. It was the Denver Post!

Editors get all sorts of letters from crazies, every day, for over a century. They choose what to publish (responsibility).

If you want to find parity, you should search for the paper that published an OpEd suggesting Obama be executed. I have tried that as well and I can find all sorts of reporting of people hanging effigies and the like but no paper actually publishing that opinion.

Justin
07-25-2018, 10:11
Note to self:

It wasn't worth it.

Irving
07-25-2018, 11:03
I've used Advanced Search and can't find anyone here suggesting Obama be hanged. I used the phrase "Obama" and "hang" also "Obama" and "execute" Got a lot of noise. Then I used "Obama hang" and got nothing. Then I used "Obama should be hang" and got...



What I did see in the returns was a lot of posts using the word Obama with a slew of criminals that posters said should be hanged; child abusers, murdering illegals, etc... And a quote about how the Continental Congress would hang together during the Revolutionary War.

I could spend all day looking!

But this board is not a newspaper and the posters here are not "journalists" informing the public. The comments here are not published and delivered physical/digitally to millions of homes (I honesty don't know what the Compost's circulation/view numbers are these days). That OpEd was published by the editor. It wasn't just the echo chamber in some crazy cat lady's head. It was the Denver Post!

Editors get all sorts of letters from crazies, every day, for over a century. They choose what to publish (responsibility).

If you want to find parity, you should search for the paper that published an OpEd suggesting Obama be executed. I have tried that as well and I can find all sorts of reporting of people hanging effigies and the like but no paper actually publishing that opinion.


People on here say that Hillary and Barrack should be hanged with pretty regular frequency. Would you say that such lamentations make it equally difficult for left and right to peacefully coexist in America?

I had to look back at what I said, and I did specifically say hanged. I should have been less specific and said "killed," as I doubt there are very many instances of that exact phrasing. That's egg on my face I guess.

To the point of your thread Skip, you are absolutely correct that there is a distinct difference between the general public (including here) saying/feeling things, and an editors decision to publish such things. I can't even argue that the only thing being informed by the paper is that someone has an opinion because as you said, I'm sure they get all kinds of ridiculous letters on the regular, and it is up to them to decide what to publish. I could argue either way on the editor's decision, but I won't because in the broad context of the media, I see this in other places as well and find it to be an embarrassing commentary on the state of our society. I actually have at the ready an example of this that I think is even worse, even though there is no direct suggestion of violence.

So, I'll stand by my original statement that I've seen people on here saying similar things about politicians that they don't like. My intention wasn't to compare people's feelings with the actions of the editor, only to compare with the thoughts of the letter writer.

Skip
07-25-2018, 12:13
I see what you're saying but this is a standard in place nearly my whole life and earlier. There were people who applauded Hinckley in 1981. There were people who said George W Bush should be executed for war crimes (oddly, not the Dims who voted for the war in the first place though).

I was shocked to see this the other day from before my time...

https://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Wanted_for_treason.jpg

It was just a local flyer posted before the assassination. Assassination by a Communist.

The fact that someone said this isn't new or thread worthy. I see this comment and similar regularly on the socials.

The line we just passed was a major-ish regional newspaper thinking this thought accurately reflected the community and was worth being published including its ignorance of the facts. It was published in the false context (FakeNews) that collusion occurred with no correction (Editors can correct on their page) or clarification.

The ComPost also published the Steele Dossier (credited to WashPoo). To date, they have not retracted or corrected the record on that either in spite of it being declared a fraud upon the FISA Court (and the American people by extension). The golden shower bit (yes, it was that outlandish) would have NEVER been published about Obama even if sourced and verified.

Ah Pook
07-25-2018, 12:20
Is this what the DP is reduced to to get people to read their rag? Not going to waist my time.

Irving
07-25-2018, 12:24
Agreed.

roberth
07-25-2018, 12:33
Skip nails it...again. :)