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Shooter45
08-25-2018, 18:50
Arizona Sen. John McCain, a former Republican presidential nominee and a decorated veteran of the Vietnam War, died on Saturday. He was 81.
McCain, who had a history (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/19/health/gupta-mccain-glioblastoma/index.html) of skin cancer, was diagnosed with brain cancer (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-mccain-cancer_us_596ff35ae4b0110cb3cb9014?9zg&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009) in July 2017 after a routine physical revealed a blood clot over his left eye. He had surgery to remove the clot, which doctors then determined was the result of an aggressive tumor called a glioblastoma. Earlier this week, McCain decided to discontinue his cancer treatment. (https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1033006388732022785/photo/1)
The diagnosis did not immediately impede McCain from his work in the Senate, where, among other issues he was involved in, he played a major role in derailing the Republican effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act. He later described the disease as “very, very serious,” and said his doctors had told him he had “a very poor prognosis (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mccain-calls-brain-cancer-prognosis-very-poor-104422143.html).”
McCain was hospitalized (https://www.apnews.com/dd1307012e4f43458a30474a785be205) in December 2017 with a viral infection, his office said (https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=7AE6EBA2-D37E-4E61-B687-2D92C49177C5), and returned home to Arizona to recuperate. In April, the senator had surgery to treat an intestinal infection (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mccain-surgery-infection_us_5ad53a3ee4b0edca2cbd05ad) at the Mayo Clinic in Phoenix. He had reportedly been recovering at his home near Sedona with his wife, Cindy.
McCain was born on Aug. 29, 1936, at a U.S. air base in the Panama Canal Zone. After his family moved to Northern Virginia in 1951, McCain attended the prestigious U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland. He later trained as a fighter pilot and served aboard several U.S. aircraft carriers in the 1960s.
On Oct. 26, 1967, McCain’s plane was shot down while he was flying a bombing mission over Hanoi in Northern Vietnam. The North Vietnamese held him in captivity for five and a half years, during which he was interrogated and subjected to repeated beatings. The injuries McCain sustained left him unable to raise his arms above his head. He was ultimately released on March 14, 1973, after his captors determined he was no longer of value.
McCain’s military service briefly became a flashpoint during the 2016 presidential race, after real estate mogul and then-Republican candidate Donald Trump questioned his status as a war hero (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-john-mccain_55aa7ff1e4b0caf721b2feb7). McCain said he never received an apology (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-mccain-60-minutes-trump_us_59c8ea4ce4b01cc57ff379a2?gyi) from Trump.

After his return and rehabilitation in the U.S., McCain served as the Navy’s liaison to the Senate in 1977. Following his separation from his first wife, Carol Shepp, he married Cindy Lou Hensley and settled in Phoenix. There, he successfully ran for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 1982. Four years later, McCain was elected to the Senate, defeating his Democratic challenger by some 20 points.
McCain served six terms in the Senate at various posts, including stints as chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee. Early in his career, he made campaign finance one of his signature issues by working to curtail the influence of political contributions and dark money. His efforts eventually led to the passage of the McCain-Feingold Act in 2002, which restricted the use of “soft money” to boost campaigns.
As a member of the so-called Gang of Eight, McCain helped craft a bill overhauling the nation’s immigration system that included a comprehensive path to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants. It passed in the Senate, but was not taken up in the House. Later in his career, he became a prominent voice among foreign policy hawks, advocating for a more aggressive U.S. approach to world affairs. His experience as a prisoner of war lent him credibility in opposing so-called enhanced interrogation techniques such as waterboarding.

McCain first ran for president in 1999 with a scrappy and upstart campaign known for its “Straight Talk Express” bus that promoted his reputation as a “maverick” who would do and say things other Republicans would not. He lost the race, however, to the establishment-backed George W. Bush, due in part to a bitter smear campaign that falsely claimed McCain had fathered a black child out of wedlock. Bush and his team denied involvement, but McCain suspected otherwise.
His 2008 presidential run was more successful. After key wins in the New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries, and the flame-out of other challengers, including former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R), both of whom would later go on to mount presidential bids in 2012, McCain finally won his party’s backing for president.
Facing freshman Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), McCain cast himself as an experienced and sensible Republican, but his quixotic decision to select Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) as his running mate also turned into a major liability as the political novice floundered time and time again under the spotlight. McCain was ultimately unable to prevail against a younger, charismatic candidate who promised change amid a harsh recession and the costly war in Iraq.
On Capitol Hill, the longtime lawmaker was celebrated for, among many noble qualities, his quick wit and good humor. He often sarcastically chided reporters to dismiss or make a point. He traded barbs with colleagues and was known to frequently (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2011/10/mccain_paid_staffers_blood_relatives.html) repeat some of his favorite quips.
“After I lost [the 2008 election], I slept like a baby,” McCain has joked (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/stephen-colbert-john-mccain-2008-loss) over the years. “Sleep two hours, wake up and cry. Sleep two hours, wake up and cry.”
In recent years, McCain took on the role of party statesman, but one who was fiercely critical of the Obama administration’s strategy with respect to renewed conflicts in the Middle East, Ukraine and Libya. Along with friend and colleague Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), McCain advocated for committing additional U.S. troops on the ground to defeat Islamic State terrorists in Iraq and Syria.
In 2016, McCain easily won re-election to his sixth term in the Senate by defeating Democratic Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick. The longtime lawmaker faced a more difficult test with several challengers in the GOP primary, reflecting pent-up frustration with his time and record in Washington among several tea party groups that failed to oust him in 2010.
The following year, McCain played a pivotal role in opposing several Republican bills to repeal and replace the health care program known as Obamacare. In a surprise move that cemented his legacy, McCain cast a dramatic late-night vote against GOP legislation rescinding the law. He repeatedly urged Republican leaders to start over by including Democrats in a more open process.
Toward the end of his life, McCain appeared to have made peace with his approaching death. In his book The Restless Wave, an excerpt of which was published on Apple News on April 30, the senator said his current term would be his last.
“If I hadn’t admitted that to myself before this summer, a stage 4 cancer diagnosis acts as ungentle persuasion,” he wrote. “I’m freer than colleagues who will face the voters again. I can speak my mind without fearing the consequences much. And I can vote my conscience without worry.”
Asked last year during a CNN interview (https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/10/politics/john-mccain-cancer-cnntv/index.html) about how he hoped to be remembered, McCain said, “He served his country.” He added: “And not always right, made a lot of mistakes. Made a lot of errors. But served his country, and I hope you could add honorably.”




The senator is survived by his wife and seven children, including popular author and national radio personality Meghan McCain.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/john-mccain-senator-former-republican-002331682.html

flogger
08-25-2018, 19:00
I would have loved to sit down and have a couple of beers with Mr. McCain but I would never trust him as a politician.

That being said, a heartfelt RIP Sir and thanks for your service and sacrifice.

Duman
08-25-2018, 19:08
I disagreed with a number of his positions, but he was a good man. R.I.P.

Bailey Guns
08-25-2018, 19:13
I won't miss him in the US Senate. But I also wouldn't wish what he went thru as a POW and with cancer on anyone.

Shooter45
08-25-2018, 19:18
Definite patriot from what he went through politics aside.

MrPrena
08-25-2018, 19:24
RIP

Great-Kazoo
08-25-2018, 19:27
I won't miss him in the US Senate. But I also wouldn't wish what he went thru as a POW and with cancer on anyone.

I agree.

waffles
08-25-2018, 20:39
He always struck me as a person who honestly tried to do what he believed was right for his country, not just what he thought would own the libs or trigger the snowflakes or whatever. He was one of the last I could say that about, even if I didn't always agree with all his positions.

Honey Badger282.8
08-25-2018, 20:45
RIP Senator McCain.

OtterbatHellcat
08-25-2018, 21:13
Principled man that served our country, thank you Sir for your service, and rest well....blessings to his family.

I only heard today that he refused any further treatments, and now I hear that he has passed.

Zundfolge
08-25-2018, 22:33
Mama said; "if you can't say something nice .... "

WETWRKS
08-25-2018, 23:05
My great uncle was head of the navy dental division. When McCain was freed my uncle worked on restoration on him. Several times my uncle commented on how McCain had better never be elected President. Unpredictable and loose cannon were a few of the terms used.

roberth
08-26-2018, 05:03
Mama said; "if you can't say something nice .... "

Yup.

Singlestack
08-26-2018, 06:07
Yup.

Agreed. RIP

bellavite1
08-26-2018, 08:08
Yeah, well, I am known to be quite outspoken, so outspoken I will be.
If it wasn't for him Obamacare would be in the past.
Sounds to me he was on a personal vendetta with Trump.
I always saw him as part of a government worried more about keeping their job than doing their job.
Did not feel the need to feel sorry for him for his disease, better people than him died of cancer, still do every day.
Never liked him.
Don't have to like him now just because he is dead.

fitz19d
08-26-2018, 08:23
Yeap, hasn't been covered in the news really. But he was involved in getting the IRS to target tea party and other conservative groups that eventually resulted in that gigantic settlement against the IRS. Involved in a ton of things pre and post election that was basically lockstep with the dems. Gigantic war mongering globalist $ hound.

I don't spout good riddance or any of those things, because it is unnecessary. But it would be uninformed to act like he was doing anything positive for this country within the last decade.

Eric P
08-26-2018, 08:37
Good riddens traitorous bastard

hurley842002
08-26-2018, 08:39
Good riddens traitorous bastard

What is a riddens?

hurley842002
08-26-2018, 08:43
RIP, and prayers to his family.

Apparently I spoke too soon (but didn't post) last night when I said to myself, "this sight is different from the other one's I'm on, much more class here".

StagLefty
08-26-2018, 08:52
RIP Sir

theGinsue
08-26-2018, 08:58
At one time John McCain served his country well in the Armed Services. He continued to serve honorably as a POW, enduring torture while maintaining his oath to our nation. For that, I am greatly appreciative.

I do not rejoice in many people deaths, only those truly evil. I certainly feel sympathy for anyone who has to experience to horrors of cancer, brain cancer being one of the worst among them. Because of this, I'm glad that John McCain is no longer suffering with this illness and can find peace.

While I think, for the most part, that Sen. McCain believed he was doing what was right for this nation, his last decade of service in the Senate were destructive to our nation. He allowed his anti-Trump bias to color his comments and votes and was essentially in lock step with the Dems these last few years. John McCain was elected as a Conservative, aka Republican, Senator, yet in his last decade of service he might as well have claimed the Democratic label. For whatever reasons he felt this was necessary, he caused harm to this nation - and for that I am happy that he is no longer a member of the U.S. senate.

My hope is that Gov. Ducey selects a true conservative to replace Sen. McCain - someone who can help to re-instill true conservative values into our government and who has a good chance to be elected back into the position when the position comes up for a vote.

John McCain, may you rest in peace.

Gman
08-26-2018, 09:12
Well put, Thomas. I think some of the damage he caused goes beyond the last decade, however.

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MrAK
08-26-2018, 09:33
At one time John McCain served his country well in the Armed Services. He continued to serve honorably as a POW, enduring torture while maintaining his oath to our nation. For that, I am greatly appreciative.

I do not rejoice in many people deaths, only those truly evil. I certainly feel sympathy for anyone who has to experience to horrors of cancer, brain cancer being one of the worst among them. Because of this, I'm glad that John McCain is no longer suffering with this illness and can find peace.

While I think, for the most part, that Sen. McCain believed he was doing what was right for this nation, his last decade of service in the Senate were destructive to our nation. He allowed his anti-Trump bias to color his comments and votes and was essentially in lock step with the Dems these last few years. John McCain was elected as a Conservative, aka Republican, Senator, yet in his last decade of service he might as well have claimed the Democratic label. For whatever reasons he felt this was necessary, he caused harm to this nation - and for that I am happy that he is no longer a member of the U.S. senate.

My hope is that Gov. Ducey selects a true conservative to replace Sen. McCain - someone who can help to re-instill true conservative values into our government and who has a good chance to be elected back into the position when the position comes up for a vote.

John McCain, may you rest in peace.

You summed it up for me

BlasterBob
08-26-2018, 09:42
Thomas theGinsue, you covered it perfectly. Thank you,[blaster]

Ridge
08-26-2018, 10:06
He always struck me as a person who honestly tried to do what he believed was right for his country, not just what he thought would own the libs or trigger the snowflakes or whatever. He was one of the last I could say that about, even if I didn't always agree with all his positions.

I'll agree with this.

One of the last few politicians who put what he genuinely thought was better for the country over what the official party line called for. The last decent person on the campaign trail, too.

MrAK
08-26-2018, 10:57
I don’t know, I sort of feel like Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi might actually believe or convince themselves that what they’re doing is right for our country.

Ridge
08-26-2018, 11:24
If they believe what they are doing is right, and if those they represent agree with them, then that is democracy, the foundation of our country's ideology.

Zundfolge
08-26-2018, 12:04
As for McCain's heroism in Viet Nam, at one point Benedict Arnold was a hero at the capture of Fort Ticonderoga, but we judge him from his later actions, so...


My hope is that Gov. Ducey selects a true conservative to replace Sen. McCain - someone who can help to re-instill true conservative values into our government and who has a good chance to be elected back into the position when the position comes up for a vote.

Its my understanding that McCain hand picked his own wife to be his successor. Lets hope Gov. Ducey ignores that request.

At any rate, your assessment of his career may be correct, though I think you give him too much credit (but to be fair, neither of us knew the man and what was really going on in his head).

The McCain saga is finally over, and for that we can all be thankful.

OtterbatHellcat
08-26-2018, 13:25
Seems to me that I recall McCain was part of a group that approached Pelosi and the 'Crats about the impending Lender Industry Doom.....and he was ignored at the time.

As far as I understand it, at least he tried.

Wolfshoon
08-26-2018, 15:15
Thanks for his military service, for his career after he should have been jailed for his role in the "Keating 5" debacle.

how politicians get away with crimes just amazes me, and even more amazing are the voters who continue to keep them in office even when the dirt is exposed.

BPTactical
08-26-2018, 15:49
Been looking all day...











...haven't found a single fuck to give.

bobbyfairbanks
08-26-2018, 18:19
Now that’s funny

glock74
08-26-2018, 20:07
RIP

Zundfolge
08-26-2018, 20:29
[tinfoil hat]John McCain died exactly 9 years to the day from the death of Ted Kennedy ... and they both died of the same brain cancer.[/tinfoil hat]

JohnnyDrama
08-26-2018, 20:41
[tinfoil hat]John McCain died exactly 9 years to the day from the death of Ted Kennedy ... and they both died of the same brain cancer.[/tinfoil hat]

The Truth is Out There....

BPTactical
08-26-2018, 21:04
[tinfoil hat]John McCain died exactly 9 years to the day from the death of Ted Kennedy ... and they both died of the same brain cancer.[/tinfoil hat]

What did they have on Hillary?

Mazin
08-26-2018, 21:22
What did they have on Hillary?

http://i68.tinypic.com/292r4f8.jpg

Gman
08-26-2018, 21:37
[tinfoil hat]John McCain died exactly 9 years to the day from the death of Ted Kennedy ... and they both died of the same brain cancer.[/tinfoil hat]

They both also co-sponsored a number of bills together. Coincidence?

buffalobo
08-26-2018, 21:44
RIP.

I Did Not Attend the Funeral, But I Sent a Nice Letter Saying I Approved of It

DavieD55
08-27-2018, 21:34
The guy was a sociopathic scumbag who primarily worked for the advancement of the deep state agenda and his own personal gain to the detriment of the USA and the Constitution. A deep state establishment stooge who worked against the USA for many years in favor of the not so Christians In Action, war gaming mil industrial complex, and a favorite of the Council on Foreign Relations. Not to mention a big supporter, enabler and helper of the unconstitutional not so patriot act.


Good riddance shitbag!

Zundfolge
08-27-2018, 21:42
(NSFW - Language)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DhBrTtn2Ho&t=0s

bellavite1
08-28-2018, 07:55
Hey, at least Trump did not jump on the bandwagon praising him.
In a world of hypocrites it is quite refreshing.
He did not like him alive, still does not like him.

Delfuego
08-28-2018, 09:52
Way to keep it classy DavieD55. Obviously no one taught you to not speak ill of the dead. Please keep your ignorant tinfoil BS to yourself.

MrAK
08-28-2018, 10:01
Way to keep it classy DavieD55. Obviously no one taught you to not speak ill of the dead. Please keep your ignorant tinfoil BS to yourself.

Looking at the last few examples in Davies comment makes me think that there’s factual evidence to support at least some of his claims. Thought I recalled McCain being involved with those topics.

DavieD55
08-28-2018, 10:08
Good riddens traitorous bastard

X2 [Beer]

BPTactical
08-28-2018, 10:13
..........Still looking...........[Peep]

TFOGGER
08-28-2018, 11:50
..........Still looking...........[Peep]

Not buying it. You aren't even trying to find one...

Bailey Guns
08-28-2018, 13:36
Way to keep it classy DavieD55. Obviously no one taught you to not speak ill of the dead. Please keep your ignorant tinfoil BS to yourself.

Lot of irony right there.

BPTactical
08-28-2018, 14:23
Not buying it. You aren't even trying to find one...



Drats! Busted!

But even if I trip over one I doubt I would pick it up.

ChickNorris
08-28-2018, 14:28
What is a riddens?

LOL

IPA maybe?

Gman
08-28-2018, 18:55
What is a riddens?

It's a horse/bike/cycle at the end of a day of good riding.

"Hey, Bob, that's a good riddens you got there."

roberth
08-28-2018, 19:21
Looking at the last few examples in Davies comment makes me think that there’s factual evidence to support at least some of his claims. Thought I recalled McCain being involved with those topics.

I've read that McCain had a nickname "songbird" from his time as a POW.

https://rightedition.com/2017/02/18/songbird-mccain-evidence-words-fellow-veterans-captors/

Leftist websites say the information contained in the article has been debunked, but they're the same people that think the FBI did no wrong in ignoring the Clinton's private email server.

I have been suspicious of McCain since I started paying attention to politics years ago, he never passed the smell test.

ANADRILL
08-28-2018, 21:52
McCain was a commie piece of shit..

ChickNorris
08-28-2018, 22:08
"Hey, Bob, that's a good riddens you got there."

I was thinking after 10ish turns on the teacups or rollercoaster but, yeah that works too. :)

DavieD55
08-28-2018, 22:50
http://i63.tinypic.com/juu6go.png

MrPrena
08-28-2018, 23:02
The tone here sounds so opposite of 10 years ago from today. :D
(Just saying)

i know most of us voted for Juan McCain, and he would've been a better president than ObamaBinBiden.

MrAK
08-28-2018, 23:07
The tone here sounds so opposite of 10 years ago from today. :D
(Just saying)

i know most of us voted for Juan McCain, and he would've been a better president than ObamaBinBiden.


I think the look on Soros’ face in the post above yours is telling of what we would have received from a McCain presidency had he not thrown his election and had won. I doubt he would have been much different from Obama.

Duman
08-29-2018, 21:00
I thought it was interesting that Sarah Palin was not invited to the funeral service. I would have thought they had a lot closer connection.

68Charger
08-29-2018, 22:35
The tone here sounds so opposite of 10 years ago from today. :D
(Just saying)

i know most of us voted for Juan McCain, and he would've been a better president than ObamaBinBiden.

Not I, he was my senator over 20 years ago when I lived in AZ... (1988-1997) wouldn't vote for him after seeing him in action as a senator, absolutely wouldn't vote for him as president... In 2000, if he had won the primary I probably would have flushed my vote by voting third party. In 2008, I may have held my nose- or just thought of Palin when I voted... (I remember her being on local news station when I was a teenager)

but I really hated the choices in 2008...

Zundfolge
08-30-2018, 10:31
The tone here sounds so opposite of 10 years ago from today. :D
(Just saying)

i know most of us voted for Juan McCain, and he would've been a better president than ObamaBinBiden.

I don't know if I posted it here or not, but on Election Night 2008 I said quite clearly; "Bad news is Barack Obama is our next president, good news is John McCain isn't." I don't know if Johnboy would have ben a BETTER president than Obama, but I doubt he'd have been worse (only thing he probably wouldn't have done is Obamacare ... however he'd have done stupid, liberal-Democrat things and most Republicans wouldn't have stood against him because he's got an (R) after his name, so it could have been worse in some ways).


I thought it was interesting that Sarah Palin was not invited to the funeral service. I would have thought they had a lot closer connection.

The old narcissist seems to think she cost him the election (when she's the reason it was as close as it actually was).

Again, I could see the point of "not speaking ill of the dead" if they were even 1% graceful in their death, but the outright snub of both Palin and Trump negate McCain's "he's dead so we should be nice" clause (among a myriad of other things).

Bailey Guns
08-30-2018, 14:47
The thing that puzzles me about Palin not being invited to the funeral is I've never heard her say anything but good things about McCain. Of course, the same can't be said about the way McCain spoke of Palin.

I'm anxious to see who the AZ gov appoints to replace him. Almost anyone would be an improvement.