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mattiooo
09-17-2018, 16:06
Will this affect NFA fingerprint cards? I was saving up to SBR my Scorpion.
Fingerprinting Services Discontinued at
the Erie Police Department
Effective October 1, 2018, the Erie Police Department will no longer provide fingerprint services. This change is in response to Senate Bill 17-189.
The Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) will roll out the Colorado Applicant Background Services (CABS) program on September 24, 2018.
Specific vendors will be appointed and trained by CBI, and will be the only places where fingerprinting services are available. The vendor services will be located throughout the State, increasing applicants’ ability to obtain fingerprints in a timely manner. Applicants will be able to schedule appointments online with the vendors and the fingerprint cards will be submitted electronically. This will allow for results to now only take hours instead of days or weeks.
The fee for the fingerprinting service is $10/applicant plus the state and FBI fees (if required).
To view locations, read additional information or to schedule a fingerprinting appointment, visit: https://www.identogo.com/locations/colorado.
Many class 3 dealers do this already. Cheaper than the leo.
Not related IMHO.
Under current law, there are a number of professions that require fingerprint-based background checks. Some of those fingerprint requirements direct that the fingerprints must be taken by a law enforcement agency.
I've been through a pretty high level Fed clearance BGC process that didn't require LEO take the prints.
Go get em now, and have an extra set made if you think you're gonna form something in the next 2 years.
Not related IMHO.
What do you mean not related? He asked how it affects NFA items. Even said he was saving up to SBR. The new state law wont affect your ability to get stamps.
Silencer shop kiosks are not LEO and accepted by the NFA. Others have similar and accepted by ATF.
He wasn't asking about guberment jobs.
Little Dutch
09-17-2018, 20:35
I have never had my NFA prints done by law enforcement. Unless you no longer have a location near you to get the prints done, it won't effect your NFA purchases.
My prints have either been done at work (We had a fingerprint lady at the DOD company I worked for), the ladies down at Maggies Print Shop (downtown Co Springs), or through the Silencer Shop kiosk.
mattiooo
09-17-2018, 21:00
I didn't need prints when I did all my other NFA purchases. This will me first post-rule changes. I did get some fingerprint cards from ATF.
What do you mean not related? He asked how it affects NFA items. Even said he was saving up to SBR. The new state law wont affect your ability to get stamps.
Silencer shop kiosks are not LEO and accepted by the NFA. Others have similar and accepted by ATF.
He wasn't asking about guberment jobs.
OK, so I misunderstood. No reason to bust my balls.
He also didn't ask how it will affect getting stamps if you want to be pedantic.
Not related IMHO.
Under current law, there are a number of professions that require fingerprint-based background checks. Some of those fingerprint requirements direct that the fingerprints must be taken by a law enforcement agency.
I've been through a pretty high level Fed clearance BGC process that didn't require LEO take the prints.
Go get em now, and have an extra set made if you think you're gonna form something in the next 2 years.
This is actually relative to me since I'll need to submit progress for some things that probably require LEO to do it.
I just use the digital fingerprinting place (Colorado Fingerprinting) on Klamath. Get them done once in person, and after that you just order them through their website or just walk in and ask for more copies.
That's news to me. I've been there before a few times, never realized I could just order more.
I just use the digital fingerprinting place (Colorado Fingerprinting) on Klamath. Get them done once in person, and after that you just order them through their website or just walk in and ask for more copies.
I worry a little bit about the security of such places. The personel, their servers, etc.
JeffCO went digital a while ago FWIW.
I worry a little bit about the security of such places. The personel, their servers, etc.
JeffCO went digital a while ago FWIW.
I get mine at Parker PD. Walk in M-W-F 9-6PM. Digital. Takes a few minutes to fill out their form and $10 a set for DougCo residents. Our grandson goes to the same preschool as the guy that typically does. ;-)
I had to do a set old school 6 months ago. Then go down 2 floors and they did them digital for something related.
I just use the digital fingerprinting place (Colorado Fingerprinting) on Klamath. Get them done once in person, and after that you just order them through their website or just walk in and ask for more copies.
This is what their website says:
I have been fingerprinted previously, why do I have to get fingerprinted again?
Fingerprints previously submitted to agencies for processing are not retrievable. When a new check is needed, they require another set of fingerprints.
It's probably easier for you than me.
Their website also says this:
What is “Live Scan” and is it acceptable instead of traditional ink?
Live Scan is an ink-less electronic means to capture fingerprints. All state and federal agencies accept and prefer live scan capture and print on fingerprint cards. With live scan, there is no smudging or smearing. The software helps determine a good fingerprint, and our highly trained fingerprint technicians can see the fingerprints in detail to help get the best possible fingerprints.
Yet, every where I need finger prints always has some bullshit like this:
We do not accept fingerprint results from other vendors or other states.
Background checks and fingerprinting has turned into just another money making bullshit scheme. One of the vendors I recently applied with sent out an email saying something along the lines of "Due to changing requirements from carriers, we now only accept background checks from this one vendor, you have to pay for it, and it's $70." All of that is total bullshit as I work for all those same carriers through other companies and they have no such BS requirement, and background checks cost no where near $70 a pop. It's a bunch of BS. Rant over.
That is one reason I am in favor of State Licensing for adjusters and home inspectors. My license is good for 3 years and I don't have to submit backgrounds, bonds or anything else to carriers I work for, provided they, or I, send a confirmation of my PE licensure.
DireWolf
09-21-2018, 14:09
...background checks cost no where near $70 a pop...
While I agree with the rest of this post and even think making you personally foot the bill for the BC is a bunch of BS, the $70 price tag is actually about on-par for what a basic criminal background check with natsec/fed/state/county and record verification costs (I typically have to do at least a few of these every year and have priced out a handful of providers). To be fair, you can get them done cheaper, but those often are only subsets of a full cbc...
So they said that due to the Colorado law change, they can't reuse your prints for CBI, but they can send your documented prints for every other state anytime you need. I had been there within the last few years, but I wasn't in their system for some reason.
I need prints for a Form 1 in Colorado Springs. Where can i get them done?
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