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Well, it was bound to happen. A black eye for a high profile case. We'll see.
A judge Wednesday morning signed an arrest warrant for Cody Wilson on charges relating to sex with a minor, local media reports (https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/austin-man-behind-3d-printed-gun-company-charged-with-sex-assault-involving-minor/269-591851213).
The warrant, filed by the Austin Police Dept., accuses Wilson of engaging in intercourse and oral sex with a juvenile female under the age of 17. Investigators claim Wilson paid the girl $500 after the encounter. which allegedly occurred on Aug. 15 at the Archer Hotel.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/breaking-cody-wilson-arrested-for-having-sex-with-minor/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20180921_FridayDigest_192&utm_campaign=/digest/breaking-cody-wilson-arrested-for-having-sex-with-minor/
theGinsue
09-21-2018, 07:59
Whenever I see stories like this I often wonder about the legitimacy of the charges, or if they were fabricated just to ruin the reputation and jail the person that is resisting those in power.
A little too convenient, is t it?
BPTactical
09-21-2018, 08:42
"By any means necessary"
Those that present any risk to "the establishment" and resist it will learn the meaning of that statement.
That was my first thought when I heard about it, except he went on vacation to Taiwan and never came back.
68Charger
09-21-2018, 10:01
That was my first thought when I heard about it, except he went on vacation to Taiwan and never came back.
If it was a setup, would you want to come back to be arrested, humiliated, and go to court if you had an alternative (even if it's a life like Snowden?)
The stigma attached to underage sex crimes makes you guilty before proven innocent... nobody will want to believe you are innocent, and nobody will come to your aid, less they be tainted by your sickness.
I had that thought. In the article I read, the timeline wasn't made clear, but I guess someone who knew the girl told him that she was going to complain or something so he didn't come back. I don't know if he was contact by authorities at the time. I feel like it's too easy and effective for the gov to set someone up as a sex criminal anytime that they want to shut someone down for good. In this guy's case the age of consent was 17 and she was 16. Him paying her doesn't look to good. I'm not sure how'd I'd react to an accusation personally. On one hand I'd like to think that if he really didn't do anything, and it's just a set-up, just come back and work through it. On the other hand, seems like it'd be pretty easy to just live somewhere else and not have to deal with people hating on you in person. If he never comes back, this will all be forgotten by most people in what, a month? Most people in the country have no idea who this guy even is.
DireWolf
09-21-2018, 11:01
The stigma attached to underage sex crimes makes you guilty before proven innocent... nobody will want to believe you are innocent, and nobody will come to your aid, less they be tainted by your sickness.
I honestly think if some serious shit were to start going down (e.g. active/preparatory confiscations, etc.), this is how they would try to slow-roll it...
Lots of folks with the "come and take it motherfucker" thought process who would never think of going down without a fight and imagine others would rally to defend, but likely haven't thought that a simple accusation and/or some fabricated evidence (trivially easy to create/obtain in most cases even without a bunch of "payoff" money, given modern HUMINT-mining capabilities and people's tendency to self-incriminate), and even their closest friends may turn away and say "the SOB got what was coming to them"...
Why create martyrs when they can create despicable criminals whose actions are (or would be at least, if actually true) beyond earthly redemption?
To wit, had that shit that went down in NV a few years ago with BLM, etc. been approached this way, those people would have been shunned and totally alone as opposed to seeing a variety of inter-state support inbound.
All that said, I'm curious how effective/foolproof (bullet-proof), and feasable, something like an FMRI based lie detector test is nowadays (haven't seen any recent research on this, just some older/early stuff), and the associated possibility of obtaining truthful statements which are beyond any possible doubt or reproach....
We all know that a basic polygraph is bullshit and with a $10 biofeedback machine and knowledge of interrogation/meditation techniques they can be manipulated (a good interviewer may still have their bullshit alarm go off, but intuition by itself means little), but would be interesting possibility to prevent/rectify false accusations or alternatively save a shit ton of money on legal proceedings...
68Charger
09-21-2018, 11:20
I honestly think if some serious shit were to start going down (e.g. active/preparatory confiscations, etc.), this is how they would try to slow-roll it...
Lots of folks with the "come and take it motherfucker" thought process who would never think of going down without a fight and imagine others would rally to defend, but likely haven't thought that a simple accusation and/or some fabricated evidence (trivially easy to create/obtain in most cases even without a bunch of "payoff" money, given modern HUMINT-mining capabilities and people's tendency to self-incriminate), and even their closest friends may turn away and say "the SOB got what was coming to them"...
Why create martyrs when they can create despicable criminals whose actions are (or would be at least, if actually true) beyond earthly redemption?
To wit, had that shit that went down in NV a few years ago with BLM, etc. been approached this way, those people would have been shunned and totally alone as opposed to seeing a variety of inter-state support inbound.
All that said, I'm curious how effective/foolproof (bullet-proof), and feasable, something like an FMRI based lie detector test is nowadays (haven't seen any recent research on this, just some older/early stuff), and the associated possibility of obtaining truthful statements which are beyond any possible doubt or reproach....
We all know that a basic polygraph is bullshit and with a 10$ biofeedback machine and knowledge of interrogation/meditation techniques they can be manipulated (a good interviewer may still have their bullshit alarm go off, but intuition by itself means little), but would be interesting possibility to prevent/rectify false accusations or alternatively save a shit ton of money on legal proceedings...
Like
AFAIK, any type of lie detector (polygraph, body language, fMRI, etc) is always going to be subjective due to human nature...(we are not machines with digital code, we are analog and complex) FWIW, I've seen claims of 97% by companies who provide fMRI lie detection services. It's still a matter of probabilities, and not perfect.
There are likely a percentage of the population (Cluster B, maybe others?) that can defeat them with ease because they don't see it as a moral issue at all...their brains just don't work the same way. And of course they are the most dangerous.
Polygraphs (or any other technique) that use a human "examiner" is doubly subjective... because if the examiner has a bias against a person, they can affect the results. Multiple polygraphs with different examiners can maybe reveal this- but maybe not... a high profile person could never get an unbiased examiner, even less likely than getting a unbiased Jury (based on limited pool of examiners)... Even an fMRI needs the results interpreted, if they can write an AI to do it- that removes direct bias, but it's still limited by the interpretation of those who programmed it.
Whenever I see stories like this I often wonder about the legitimacy of the charges, or if they were fabricated just to ruin the reputation and jail the person that is resisting those in power.
These are the claims made regarding charges against the El Paso County Sheriff Maketa
If the FMRI test is the same one I'm thinking of, I don't think it matters if you are Cluster B or not. It's simple biology.
Zundfolge
09-21-2018, 12:13
The whole point of a polygraph is a big giant bluff ... make the subject think the machine actually tells when you're lying or not and you'll get a liar to admit their lies.
So for a criminal interrogation I can see some benefit to them, but for anything else they're at best worthless at worst they muddy the water.
Whether a traditional polygraph or a voice stress analyzer, all these things do is look for markers of stress when being asked a question.
When I was young I was accused of something I didn't do (a petty theft), and the repercussions of the accusation being believed ultimately seriously and permanently damaged several familial relationships. As such I've always been extremely touchy about false accusations (against myself or others) so I would tend to have a greater stress response to such questioning than someone that didn't have that history so I imagine it would be easier for a polygraph tech to think I was lying when I was telling the truth.
I've been subjected to a polygraph once. I was 100% truthful and I only passed 99% (the tech insisted I was showing deception on one minor point that didn't really alter the outcome of their investigation, so it wasn't included in the report). But that proved to me that the entire thing was 100% bullshit and the reason he said I was being truthful on the other parts is because other evidence came to light proving my position. I don't think the actual results of the test meant anything (and I still suspect his insistence that I was showing deception on the one minor point was nothing more than the tech trying to protect his own belief in this nonsense).
BushMasterBoy
09-21-2018, 12:23
He had sex with an underage prostitute? A Lolita swallow? Now he is in a country that definitely is in threat of invasion by a communist regime? And he is pissing off the "powers that be"? Just my point of view...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexpionage
68Charger
09-21-2018, 12:29
The whole point of a polygraph is a big giant bluff ... make the subject think the machine actually tells when you're lying or not and you'll get a liar to admit their lies.
So for a criminal interrogation I can see some benefit to them, but for anything else they're at best worthless at worst they muddy the water.
You reminded me of an old story:
Police in Amherst, Idaho interrogated a suspect by placing a metal colander on his head and connecting it with wires to a photocopy machine. The message "He's lying" was placed in the copier, and a detective pressed the copy button each time they thought the suspect wasn't telling the truth. Believing the "lie detector" was working, the suspect confessed.
And while I hate this guy, and this show- even he got this almost completely correct...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyDMoGjKvNk
Great-Kazoo
09-21-2018, 14:55
Cluster B
More like a Cluster Fuck
Just was reported Cody Wilson has been arrested and is custody in Taiwan
I still can't believe he was this stupid!
And guys, if the media reports the same about me, I didn't do it. I don't print anything but just want to head that one off now while I can.
In a lot of states the age of consent ins 16. I heard a report that she looked YOUNG. Like 12 or 13. But in this age of anything goes, I find it funny they are spending so many resources on this. I'm gonna file this away in the "different laws for different people" folder. I for one don't judge. Maybe he identifies as a minor? Maybe she misrepresented her age when she signed up for the adult hooker site? What I do know is I have little faith in the justice system. If I was him I'd be extremely nervous.
Any bets on whether he sees his next birthday? BTW age of consent in DC is 16. I know I'm surprised.
Many judges are heavily, mouth-foamy liberal.
So you're saying all he has to do is identify as a minor and problem solved? :)
O2
Age of consent used to be 14 in a few states, but I think that has changed now.
Seems like misrepresenting your age should be some form of entrapment, but once you're a sex worker, all bets are off. People don't turn in their drug dealers for being shady.
BushMasterBoy
09-22-2018, 07:44
He probably took her client list from her cell phone. You can't do that until you are at least a senator or a judge.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/nation-now/cody-wilson-3d-printed-gun-designer-jailed-in-houston-on-sex-assault-charge-following-arrest/465-96c6517d-2cb6-40f5-b422-97296ac29550
BladesNBarrels
09-23-2018, 10:50
Just was reported Cody Wilson has been arrested and is custody in Taiwan
If so, he picked the wrong country.
Rajmund Roman Thierry Polański is a French-Polish film director, producer, writer, and actor.
Since 1978, he has been a fugitive from the U.S. criminal justice system, having fled the country while awaiting sentencing in his sexual abuse case, where he pleaded guilty to statutory rape
Polanski was told by his attorney that "the judge could no longer be trusted..." and that the judge's representations were "worthless". Polanski decided not to appear at his sentencing. He told his friend, director Dino De Laurentis, "I've made up my mind. I'm getting out of here." On the day before sentencing in 1978, Polanski left the country on a flight to London, where he had a home. One day later, he left for France. As a French citizen, he has been protected from extradition and has lived mostly in France since then.
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