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Westminster city council has voted to increase water rates in Westminster. Dang it, my water bill was over $200 a month in the summer and I'm not going wild watering the lawn. I don't even drink that radioactive sludge coming from Stanley lake. I would like to have more of a vote before I am taxed. The city council seems to be full of a bunch of liberal women looking for ways to spend tax payer money. They are focusing on picking new colors for the city website, choosing ugly outdoor light fixtures for the streets and making crappy bike lanes all over that nobody uses while closing down lanes for cars. For all of you Westminster folks - Lets get enough signatures to recall the socialist women here:
http://www.westminsterrecall.com/your-share-of-the-task.html
Grant H.
10-17-2018, 15:51
Just your water bill was $200/month?
You say you weren't going hog wild watering your lawn, but at $9.91/1000gals (highest published residential water rate for Westminster) that's a sh!tload of water...
Anecdotally, I don't glow green and I spend all summer in Standley!!! :D
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1906/43577342180_878bcb4e24_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/29oMgBS)20180819_121239 (https://flic.kr/p/29oMgBS) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on Flickr
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The way water rates increase, in most systems, is kind of a cronie-ism system.
The utility spends money to maintain/upgrade/improve service, then goes to the rate board to request a rate increase to pay for those expenditures and then make additional profit.
beast556
10-17-2018, 15:54
I feel your pain, our water bill has tripled in the last few years.
BushMasterBoy
10-17-2018, 16:01
If you can pee in the backyard, you can save some money.
ChickNorris
10-17-2018, 16:34
If you can pee in the backyard, you can save some money.
Greenest spot in the whole lawn
The rates were also raised to pay for new development, you know because millionaire developers can't be expected to pay for new utilities to get to their new developments when they're paying for the campaigns of communists.
I hope the morons who voted the (D) onto the council are happy with their new, higher water rates.
Maybe you?ll get some sort of cost of living raise at work to kind of level everything out.
Snowman78
10-17-2018, 18:43
Just your water bill was $200/month?
You say you weren't going hog wild watering your lawn, but at $9.91/1000gals (highest published residential water rate for Westminster) that's a sh!tload of water...
Anecdotally, I don't glow green and I spend all summer in Standley!!! :D
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1906/43577342180_878bcb4e24_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/29oMgBS)20180819_121239 (https://flic.kr/p/29oMgBS) by ARNEWB (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61071044@N08/), on Flickr
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The way water rates increase, in most systems, is kind of a cronie-ism system.
The utility spends money to maintain/upgrade/improve service, then goes to the rate board to request a rate increase to pay for those expenditures and then make additional profit.
Is it still a dry lake (no alcohol )?
Just to have w/s in Nederland is $60 a month. Double/triple that if you are in the business district.
I can't wait to see the water bills in Candellis(sp). Denver Water is totally farking Gross reservoir.
I miss having well/septic.
Grant H.
10-17-2018, 20:34
Is it still a dry lake (no alcohol )?
Yes.
Not a huge deal for us, since our group is out there to work on progressing with wakeboarding, not just to party barge and occasionally ski/board.
It actually is nice on the holiday weekends, where drunk boating on state lakes is a real problem...
BPTactical
10-17-2018, 21:16
Westminster, City of is a total sham, right up there with Denver.
Know why your rates are so high?
Those nice big new tanks they are building.
88th and Sheridan development- Westy is footing a huge part of that and your paying the note. The tanks are tied into it somehow, the city leveraged the old mall out knowing they would pull this.
BIL lives @ 94th & Lowell and is furious.
It seems every city in the metro is pulling this kind of shit.
Tax and spend.
Fuck the citizens, we need the tax base!
Democratic "leadership", management and ideals.
Hell, 20-30 more years of this and we will be right up there with Detroit, Philly, Chicago.
Hate the front range. Love the state but I wish the front range would fall into a sinkhole.
StagLefty
10-18-2018, 08:16
I live in a mobile home park in Westminster and this management company does whatever they want on water and sewer. Westminster says it's private property and they can't do anything about it because they bill the park for the entire usage. The one that kills me is $50 a month for sewer for everyone even if the neighbor has 10 people living there compared to me alone in my place.
BladesNBarrels
10-18-2018, 09:18
I live in a mobile home park in Westminster and this management company does whatever they want on water and sewer. Westminster says it's private property and they can't do anything about it because they bill the park for the entire usage. The one that kills me is $50 a month for sewer for everyone even if the neighbor has 10 people living there compared to me alone in my place.
Septic systems are sized and priced by the number of bedrooms and not the number of bathrooms.
(Interesting)
Water is the limiting factor to growth in the West.
But, everyone wants to move to the West.
Been a problem that came to the forefront with the Colorado River Compact when Colorado gave away its water in 1922.
Septic systems are sized and priced by the number of bedrooms and not the number of bathrooms.
(Interesting)
Water is the limiting factor to growth in the West.
But, everyone wants to move to the West.
Been a problem that came to the forefront with the Colorado River Compact when Colorado gave away its water in 1922.
The cities and their developer pals are certainly testing the limits of water availability.
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It seems every city in the metro is pulling this kind of shit.
Tax and spend.
Fuck the citizens, we need the tax base!
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Yup. And I've lost my patience with people complaining about cost of living based on how people are voting.
Yes, Conservatives are so embarrassing... So is putting your water bill on a credit card and paying interest. So is having your car repo'd because your paycheck doesn't cover your needs anymore. Not to mention how much pride people will feel when they are forced out of their middle class homes and into a one/two bedroom apartment for a whole family.
/rant
I happen to know a bureaucrat that has been there for a long time. Not sure if Boulder slipped something into the water? By most definitions they are progressive and fairly corrupt. They seem to make up their mind to do something, and do whatever it takes to get it done. I think BP was speaking to the Westminster mall mostly being a bit of a screw job.
I bet you will still see plenty of over watering, watering concrete and asphalt, and watering in the rain. I'm happy to serve the machine.
I happen to know a bureaucrat that has been there for a long time. Not sure if Boulder slipped something into the water? By most definitions they are progressive and fairly corrupt. They seem to make up their mind to do something, and do whatever it takes to get it done. I think BP was speaking to the Westminster mall mostly being a bit of a screw job.
I bet you will still see plenty of over watering, watering concrete and asphalt, and watering in the rain. I'm happy to serve the machine.
Amen, the Westminster City Center project is a cluster cluck. The single trash hauler was silly and so was the apartment complex proposal on 112th and Sheridan. They are definitely shady and pushing crazy agenda's. Likely associated with personal financial gain. Reminds me of Adams county assessor Gil Reyes.
Just your water bill was $200/month?
You say you weren't going hog wild watering your lawn, but at $9.91/1000gals (highest published residential water rate for Westminster) that's a sh!tload of water...
Anecdotally, I don't glow green and I spend all summer in Standley!!! :D
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The way water rates increase, in most systems, is kind of a cronie-ism system.
The utility spends money to maintain/upgrade/improve service, then goes to the rate board to request a rate increase to pay for those expenditures and then make additional profit.
Thanks! You forced me out of my laziness and I did a little checking. According to multiple sources on the internet, the avg household uses 80-100 gallons of water per day. We consume half of the average until I turn my sprinklers on in the summer. My lawn still looks like crap. It's time to Xeriscape I guess. As for swimming in Stanley lake, they stored 55 gallon drums of radioactive material outdoors that rusted and leaked into a creek which fed into Stanley lake. Much of the material is still buried on-site. But I guess I should not be too concerned. There have been several super-fund sites around the metro area that have been declared safe now. I'm not a greenie nor an expert on our environment but I don't trust them.
BladesNBarrels
10-18-2018, 17:21
Years ago San Francisco had a voluntary water restriction that people bought into and used half what they had the year before.
The next year they made it mandatory and restricted people to half of the half they had already saved.
Water rights in the West are tied into "you use your allocation or you lose it."
I've seen fields around Buena Vista being irrigated with nothing planted or growing, just so the farmer doesn't lose his allocation.
Try transferring water rights in Colorado - mandatory to go through the Water Court and get it adjudicated.
Stupidly high legal fees, and many years.
Wonder why water costs so much for cities to acquire?
(those rants are contagious)
[blaster]
Thronton regularly sends out stuff about saving water. So everybody does; then they raise rates to make up the difference.
Thronton regularly sends out stuff about saving water. So everybody does; then they raise rates to make up the difference.
Yes, God forbid the agency take a cut to their budget.
BladesNBarrels
10-19-2018, 09:04
Yes, God forbid the agency take a cut to their budget.
Yep, very frustrating.
I hate defending government or semi-government (Water Boards can be strange creatures) agencies.
But their costs don't decrease in proportion to the decrease in usage.
Future water acquisition is getting harder and harder as more people increase demand.
We're drying up the aquifers and have reached near-maximum usage of surface water. Add drought conditions (whether you believe in man-made climate change or not), solutions go beyond conservation
Dingy Dangy, I gots to quit the coffee rants
[Coffee]
Yep, very frustrating.
I hate defending government or semi-government (Water Boards can be strange creatures) agencies.
But their costs don't decrease in proportion to the decrease in usage.
Future water acquisition is getting harder and harder as more people increase demand.
We're drying up the aquifers and have reached near-maximum usage of surface water. Add drought conditions (whether you believe in man-made climate change or not), solutions go beyond conservation
Dingy Dangy, I gots to quit the coffee rants
[Coffee]
Good point.
CO needs to renegotiate that water deal with CA.
Good point.
CO needs to renegotiate that water deal with CA.
Cali need to start spinning up desalination plants and stop using Colorado water!
Yes, we need to send more water to California and put a closed out of water sign at the border.
No more water, no more residential development.
Cali need to start spinning up desalination plants and stop using Colorado water!
LOL they are far too busy catering to murderers and druggies.
They build them and then it rains so much that the dams break and they quit using them and they fall into disrepair. Repeat.
They also then have a salt problem. Dumping the salt back into ocean can upset the delicate ecosystem, don't ya' know.
If I had to pick a cause, I'd pass on Carbon dioxide, and really focus on water. All these water based "green" products might have to switch back to VOC's. Much of the foods that are healthy need much water. But nothing makes me crazier than a city that pours water into the streets. I've noticed much of the metro, especially Aurora, taking out sand or brick mediums to put in trees and flowers. Some of these trees are going to make left hand turns a leap of faith once they get bigger. Add to that the dually water trucks that block traffic while a city servant waters the plants. Usually a two person job. Federal has similar landscaping, but with a ton of irrigation. I know a bit of a rant. Huff post has a good article on water per pound of food. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/13/food-water-footprint_n_5952862.html
If I had to pick a cause, I'd pass on Carbon dioxide, and really focus on water. All these water based "green" products might have to switch back to VOC's. Much of the foods that are healthy need much water. But nothing makes me crazier than a city that pours water into the streets. I've noticed much of the metro, especially Aurora, taking out sand or brick mediums to put in trees and flowers. Some of these trees are going to make left hand turns a leap of faith once they get bigger. Add to that the dually water trucks that block traffic while a city servant waters the plants. Usually a two person job. Federal has similar landscaping, but with a ton of irrigation. I know a bit of a rant. Huff post has a good article on water per pound of food. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/13/food-water-footprint_n_5952862.html
Hufpo? What are you some kind of liberal infiltrator on a gun board? The biggest waste of water Colorado water is sending it to Cali! This is just another carbon footprint tax. Its all bullshit to support the liberal agenda. I urge to to rethink drinking the koolaid.
Hufpo? What are you some kind of liberal infiltrator on a gun board? The biggest waste of water Colorado water is sending it to Cali! This is just another carbon footprint tax. Its all bullshit to support the liberal agenda. I urge to to rethink drinking the koolaid. Yep. I would love to drink the Koolaid. I just need some some Colorado water and some organic unrefined sugar. I linked Hufpo specifically because it's not a conservative site. Amonds are grown in Cali. [Coffee]
Blocking water (that isn't ours in the first place) from California, seems like the perfect way to get MORE Californians to move here.
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