View Full Version : Recent increase in youtube targeting and restricting of gun video's.
Anti trust now please...
https://www.patreon.com/posts/more-youtube-fun-22175262
""""On Sept 3rd of this year, YouTube quietly rolled out even more restrictive policies governing firearms and accessories content on their platform. It used to be we that we could mention where we got a firearm or accessory in video and it wasn?t in violation of their community standards. We could put a graphic or even a URL in the video stream (not a hot link, just unlinked text in video) and we weren?t breaking the rules. We could even show the installation of a silencer, bayonet, optic, etc. in video and it wasn?t in violation of the rules either.
Now, showing any of the above is against YouTube community standards. If I show a silencer being installed, I?ve ?demonstrated how to make a firearm more lethal?. If I show the insertion of a ?high capacity magazine? in video, I?m showing how to make a firearm ?more lethal? and I?m in violation of community standards. If I show my KDG quick detach Aimpoint mount being taken off or snapped on, I?ve shown how to make the firearm more lethal. If I put a bayonet on a Mosin Nagant, I?ve shown how to make the rifle more lethal.""""
GeorgeandSugar
10-20-2018, 06:45
Ridiculous! I wonder where this all ends? YouTube and Google crowd along with FB and other social media platforms are just "censoring" free speech and expression. This entire "gun-thing" fixation is over the top. What's with all this? I get it. The "leftists" agenda not only against the 2A, but the 1A.
Although, not a fan of more government regulation, time to check Google and all the rest of these "leftists" platforms.
It comes down to them shoveling their worldview down our throats. Frankly, sick of it and the pontificating by these so called "leftists elitists." Mark Zuckerberg and the rest of them can shove it.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Great-Kazoo
10-20-2018, 07:30
17 more days before we know if YT and other media sites will be empowered to do more to restrict what the public can see and hear, or not.
GeorgeandSugar
10-20-2018, 07:47
17 more days before we know if YT and other media sites will be empowered to do more to restrict what the public can see and hear, or not.
Well said. No question in my mind who I'll be supporting in Nov. Already voted. A no brainer for me. Voting against the mob, the leftists, no message Democrats except "resistance." Freedom, liberty and self-determination is at stake.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
BushMasterBoy
10-20-2018, 09:05
Corporations only care about money. Just like whores.
StagLefty
10-20-2018, 12:19
What gets me about youtube restrictions is if you don't want to watch a particular subject you have the freedom not to. We don't need youtube making those decisions for us [Rant1]
Grant H.
10-20-2018, 12:47
Until YT and other social medias are regulated as a utility, this is entirely within their rights, whether we agree with it or not.
DavieD55
10-20-2018, 13:18
Free speech and truth are kryptonite to the corrupt crony establishment elites. Historically, when corrupt people feel their power is threatened they tend to try and silence their opposition.
My comments on this subject are well known! :)
With respect to gun vids, I think this is more about denying culture and restricting technical info. The great thing about videos is they appeal to a wide audience on technical subjects no matter how you learn. I was on YT just last night trying to help a friend with her Benz and not knowing anything about the car was able to rule out a few common sense problems (electrical).
Internet videos have a been a great tool for new (younger) shooters for everything from safety, technique, to cleaning/maintenance. Not to mention building.
It makes perfect sense they will target online info and do everything they can to censor.
The social media thing is troubling. Either they have be conscripted by the government or the other way around. It's sad that the best time in history for knowledge and idea sharing is getting filtered by corporations, the Hurst news papers. I'd like to help with the solution but I have some FortNight to play.
The social media thing is troubling. Either they have be conscripted by the government or the other way around. It's sad that the best time in history for knowledge and idea sharing is getting filtered by corporations, the Hurst news papers. I'd like to help with the solution but I have some FortNight to play.
I had a numch to say on the subject but then I read the last of this post and lost the desire to wax eloquently so I will just say this about that: YouTube can't be forced to put content out they don't approve of nor would I want the government telling me what I could or couldn't or... more importantly... HAD to host. I, for one, think the world wide web should be a veritable free-for-all. Free of ALL government control. You got internet access? Have at it. I don't want ANYONE driving agendas and the only way to prevent this is to completely extract government interference. And I do mean ALL interference. 99% of the content will be crap I don't care about or approve of but, due to the expansiveness of the Dub Dub Dub I will get all I want and more from that 1%. Sure this means a short-term minimization of subjects I personally find interesting but other entities wills sprout to serve those vacuums. Maybe not as big as YouTube but... so? As long as they're accessible and we know where to find them that's all that matters. We will see sponsorship from suppliers and what not who will also reap the rewards of supporting a platform we all support since we will buy from them. The important part is the government can't say it's bad for anyone and shut it down in this scenario. The problem is that people are too focused on making sure our ideals are supported on all platforms and equally represented and this is a waste of efforts. We need focus on GunTube.com or whatever the upstart will be. Done and done.
That being said.... Fortnite. In!
(BTW, folks need to hit up the Official Fortnite thread (https://www.ar-15.co/threads/169906-The-Official-Fortnite-Battle-Royale-Thread) and share how to connect so we can all party up and get those XP bonuses!)
Scanker19
10-21-2018, 08:31
The problem with that is that Guntube or whatever will most likely never have an app for the PS4 or apple tv or fill in the blank. Gone are the days of Youtube being a side entertainment app that you show your friends on a laptop while getting drunk. for the last 4-5 years now youtube has been my primary entertainment ahead of netflix, et al.. Maybe I'm the minority on that. I'd love to dump youtube right now if I could but I have no other options for watching the programs I like to see barring standing around a laptop like its 2008.
Rather than run, maybe we should make it hard on youtube. I had this idea a while back this laundromat pissed me off. I figured just writing a bad review would be pointless. So I wanted to, but never did, write a "positive" review. Write a nice 5 star review on google or whatever people review on that made them look bad.
"Great place, most laundries frown on people like me washing my KKK robes, but not here A++++ service. Bonus no blacks or Jews working there."
And maybe that's what we need to do. inundate them with so much shit. Or just keep uploading what they are. Or make Pro-gun "antigun" videos with terrible terrible links to where you can buy these products.
If not what's the alternative? Full30.com hahahahahah don't make me laugh. Sadly as much as we don't want the govt. to regulate this how is it any different than them having their way with Ford motor co. or PepsiCo. The moment we fail to realize that our modern society revolves around tech companies (specifically google) while giving them all this power with no stop gaps or checks and file it under, "it's a private company..." We're fucked. They control the exchange of ideas discussions and thoughts. This isn't Ma and Pa small business telling and controlling what happens and us saying not to. This is THE information superhighway. What are you going to use Bing? hahaha....Bing...
Much how the 1st Amendment or the 2nd or even the 3rd don't GRANT rights they protect god given rights, maybe these companies need to be told what they're not allowed to not allow rather than what they are allowed to allow or not allow.
The problem with that is that Guntube or whatever will most likely never have an app for the PS4 or apple tv or fill in the blank. Gone are the days of Youtube being a side entertainment app that you show your friends on a laptop while getting drunk. for the last 4-5 years now youtube has been my primary entertainment ahead of netflix, et al.. Maybe I'm the minority on that. I'd love to dump youtube right now if I could but I have no other options for watching the programs I like to see barring standing around a laptop like its 2008.
Rather than run, maybe we should make it hard on youtube. I had this idea a while back this laundromat pissed me off. I figured just writing a bad review would be pointless. So I wanted to, but never did, write a "positive" review. Write a nice 5 star review on google or whatever people review on that made them look bad.
"Great place, most laundries frown on people like me washing my KKK robes, but not here A++++ service. Bonus no blacks or Jews working there."
And maybe that's what we need to do. inundate them with so much shit. Or just keep uploading what they are. Or make Pro-gun "antigun" videos with terrible terrible links to where you can buy these products.
If not what's the alternative? Full30.com hahahahahah don't make me laugh. Sadly as much as we don't want the govt. to regulate this how is it any different than them having their way with Ford motor co. or PepsiCo. The moment we fail to realize that our modern society revolves around tech companies (specifically google) while giving them all this power with no stop gaps or checks and file it under, "it's a private company..." We're fucked. They control the exchange of ideas discussions and thoughts. This isn't Ma and Pa small business telling and controlling what happens and us saying not to. This is THE information superhighway. What are you going to use Bing? hahaha....Bing...
Much how the 1st Amendment or the 2nd or even the 3rd don't GRANT rights they protect god given rights, maybe these companies need to be told what they're not allowed to not allow rather than what they are allowed to allow or not allow.
Great, now we just need to grant the government the legal power to tell people/companies what content they can & can't post on the world wide web thus regulating the subject matter of every item posted (or not posted) to the world wide web. What could go wrong with that?
Zundfolge
10-21-2018, 09:07
The problem with that is that Guntube or whatever will most likely never have an app for the PS4 or apple tv or fill in the blank. Gone are the days of Youtube being a side entertainment app that you show your friends on a laptop while getting drunk. for the last 4-5 years now youtube has been my primary entertainment ahead of netflix, et al.. Maybe I'm the minority on that. I'd love to dump youtube right now if I could but I have no other options for watching the programs I like to see barring standing around a laptop like its 2008.
I've been complaining on Full30s forum for more than a year that they need to build a Roku app ... it seems like every church with an iPad and more than 10 members has a Roku channel up so its not like its difficult or expensive.
Great, now we just need to grant the government the legal power to tell people/companies what content they can & can't post on the world wide web thus regulating the subject matter of every item posted (or not posted) to the world wide web. What could go wrong with that?
Right now they have several protections from government because they're a "platform" not a "publisher" and they're abusing the public trust with those special protections. Simply remove the protections and tell them "If you act like a platform you get the liability protection of a platform, but if you're going to act like a publisher you're responsible for every second of video you host". Then YouTube and others could decide if they want to respect free speech and be treated as a platform, or censor like a publisher.
Scanker19
10-21-2018, 09:40
Great, now we just need to grant the government the legal power to tell people/companies what content they can & can't post on the world wide web thus regulating the subject matter of every item posted (or not posted) to the world wide web. What could go wrong with that?
Isn't that basically what's happening now, only switch government with youtube/facebook/twitter/ etc... At least if the gov did it we'd have the illusion of choice with a vote.
https://youtu.be/ptiWBrd9YbQ
Scanker19
10-21-2018, 18:59
https://youtu.be/ptiWBrd9YbQ
I just watched that and was going to say something about it here. See that’s weird of YouTube to do.
BushMasterBoy
10-22-2018, 00:51
What if you had a computer so big it took up millions of square feet just for the storage of data? A computer so big it was connected by fiber optics in several states? You could probably post anything you want on the utuber. Or you could have it taken down. You think you are free and have privacy? This machine will own you.
https://modernsurvivalblog.com/government-gone-wild/nsa-locations-in-the-united-states/
I had a numch to say on the subject but then I read the last of this post and lost the desire to wax eloquently so I will just say this about that: YouTube can't be forced to put content out they don't approve of nor would I want the government telling me what I could or couldn't or... more importantly... HAD to host. I, for one, think the world wide web should be a veritable free-for-all. Free of ALL government control. You got internet access? Have at it. I don't want ANYONE driving agendas and the only way to prevent this is to completely extract government interference. And I do mean ALL interference. 99% of the content will be crap I don't care about or approve of but, due to the expansiveness of the Dub Dub Dub I will get all I want and more from that 1%. Sure this means a short-term minimization of subjects I personally find interesting but other entities wills sprout to serve those vacuums. Maybe not as big as YouTube but... so? As long as they're accessible and we know where to find them that's all that matters. We will see sponsorship from suppliers and what not who will also reap the rewards of supporting a platform we all support since we will buy from them. The important part is the government can't say it's bad for anyone and shut it down in this scenario. The problem is that people are too focused on making sure our ideals are supported on all platforms and equally represented and this is a waste of efforts. We need focus on GunTube.com or whatever the upstart will be. Done and done.
That being said.... Fortnite. In!
(BTW, folks need to hit up the Official Fortnite thread (https://www.ar-15.co/threads/169906-The-Official-Fortnite-Battle-Royale-Thread) and share how to connect so we can all party up and get those XP bonuses!)
Sorry man, but that ship sailed a long time ago. The days of the internet being a wild west free for all where anyone can start a site and have a decent chance of finding an audience are over. What's worse is that these companies were able to gain competitive advantages over more traditional forms of media not only by the nature of how the internet works, but by having protections for themselves and their industry built into the DMCA.
They were able to get legal protection by claiming that they aren't publishers and don't have the ability to gatekeep information in the same way a tv station or traditional print publisher could. But the fact that Facebook, Google, Youtube, Twitter, etc. are now very clearly acting as informational gatekeepers by shutting out people that don't agree with their corporate or political agendas shows that the protections they earned under DMCA were granted to organizations acting in bad faith.
These corporations built massive empires on a distributed network that was based around the free exchange of information. They now have the ability, methods, and interest, and motives (political and financial) in gatekeeping what information is seen while ensuring that smaller competitors will never, ever, ever, ever see the light of day.
Your attempting to defend a notion of the internet as it existed 20 years ago. That internet no longer exists, and the people who have built their empires in it are slowly ensuring that form of the internet will never exist again.
That you don't think these psychopaths shouldn't be held to account because it somehow conflicts with a dead conception of what the internet is supposed to be is absolute insanity. You are defending the very people who wish to slit your throat.
Great, now we just need to grant the government the legal power to tell people/companies what content they can & can't post on the world wide web thus regulating the subject matter of every item posted (or not posted) to the world wide web. What could go wrong with that?
This already happened with the passage of the DMCA.
Sorry, Jer, but the values spelled out in A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace have been dead for over a decade. It's time to adapt to the new reality.
ChickNorris
10-22-2018, 12:33
Decaf
; )
Sorry man, but that ship sailed a long time ago. The days of the internet being a wild west free for all where anyone can start a site and have a decent chance of finding an audience are over. What's worse is that these companies were able to gain competitive advantages over more traditional forms of media not only by the nature of how the internet works, but by having protections for themselves and their industry built into the DMCA.
They were able to get legal protection by claiming that they aren't publishers and don't have the ability to gatekeep information in the same way a tv station or traditional print publisher could. But the fact that Facebook, Google, Youtube, Twitter, etc. are now very clearly acting as informational gatekeepers by shutting out people that don't agree with their corporate or political agendas shows that the protections they earned under DMCA were granted to organizations acting in bad faith.
These corporations built massive empires on a distributed network that was based around the free exchange of information. They now have the ability, methods, and interest, and motives (political and financial) in gatekeeping what information is seen while ensuring that smaller competitors will never, ever, ever, ever see the light of day.
Your attempting to defend a notion of the internet as it existed 20 years ago. That internet no longer exists, and the people who have built their empires in it are slowly ensuring that form of the internet will never exist again.
That you don't think these psychopaths shouldn't be held to account because it somehow conflicts with a dead conception of what the internet is supposed to be is absolute insanity. You are defending the very people who wish to slit your throat.
I don't know, to me it sounds like you admit my idea is a pretty good one in your very response. This idea that "that ship has sailed and we'll never get the toothpaste back in the tube" is the very defeatist attitude that continues giving all of our rights away... just at a slightly slower pace.
Might sound stupid, but 30 years ago, the concept of the internet didn't exist and it was created out of 100% whole cloth. It seems completely ridiculous, but there is no reason that another "internet" couldn't be created, seeing as how the real estate in cyberspace is infinite. Far fetched? Maybe. E-Rome wasn't built in a day.
I don't know, to me it sounds like you admit my idea is a pretty good one in your very response. This idea that "that ship has sailed and we'll never get the toothpaste back in the tube" is the very defeatist attitude that continues giving all of our rights away... just at a slightly slower pace.
Yeah, and the idea of wide open wild spaces in Colorado is great, too, but sure as shit, it isn't going to stop the I-25 corridor from becoming one solid hellscape of strip malls and Applebees.
Might sound stupid, but 30 years ago, the concept of the internet didn't exist and it was created out of 100% whole cloth. It seems completely ridiculous, but there is no reason that another "internet" couldn't be created, seeing as how the real estate in cyberspace is infinite. Far fetched? Maybe. E-Rome wasn't built in a day.
All systems inevitably centralize. Doesn't matter what they are.
All systems inevitably centralize. Doesn't matter what they are.
Agreed, just pointing out the possibility of starting over and getting the E-Declaration of Independence right the next time. Kind of like the US I guess. I suppose the dark web might just become more main stream over time.
Agreed, just pointing out the possibility of starting over and getting the E-Declaration of Independence right the next time. Kind of like the US I guess. I suppose the dark web might just become more main stream over time.
The Dark Web is already under surveillance.
The three best hopes you've got are the following:
1.) Blockchain, maybe.
2.) The thing Tim Berners Lee is working on.
3.) Mars.
ChickNorris
10-22-2018, 13:21
Yay Byzantine Generals!
ChickNorris
10-22-2018, 13:21
Ledger... my vote
Nothing will ever exist again without surveillance, but I'd still argue that is a better situation than active censorship.
SideShow Bob
10-22-2018, 13:51
Nothing will ever exist again without surveillance, but I'd still argue that is a better situation than active censorship.
You’ve must have tried to access this site from a Kaiser Permente WiFi. There, this site is no bueno.
Zundfolge
10-22-2018, 14:10
You’ve must have tried to access this site from a Kaiser Permente WiFi. There, this site is no bueno.
Truth is the time is soon upon us where if you really want to use the internet unmolested you're going to need a VPN.
Truth is the time is soon upon us where if you really want to use the internet unmolested you're going to need a VPN.
And then they'll crack down on VPNs. With all the collusion it would be easy for the providers/services to work together to white list IPs and black list unknowns.
It's a war. We can play defense and lose, or we can kick the enemy's ass and burn his shit to the ground.
68Charger
10-22-2018, 21:50
And then they'll crack down on VPNs. With all the collusion it would be easy for the providers/services to work together to white list IPs and black list unknowns.
It's a war. We can play defense and lose, or we can kick the enemy's ass and burn his shit to the ground.
I'm already starting to see this... I use VPN virtually all the time, and I'm seeing more and more sites that don't work unless I change locations on my VPN service or shut it down and go native.
My VPN service has a way to "report" problems like this, but feels like tilting at windmills.
BTW, I'm going to take your advice and eat the vegans first... scheduling a butcher date on one of our steers for the first time... got another one that's close behind.
Techically cattle are vegans... because they're herbivores.
BTW, I'm going to take your advice and eat the vegans first... scheduling a butcher date on one of our steers for the first time... got another one that's close behind.
Techically cattle are vegans... because they're herbivores.
All cattle have had dairy though 😂
And you can?t be vegan unless you talk about it all the time.
And you can?t be vegan unless you talk about it all the time.
And get a statistically significant percentage of your protein from all of the field mice, rabbits, grasshoppers and other bugs that get ground up into all that grain you eat. And feed your dogs and cats food made from ground up animals.
If YouTube lifted their restrictions on what were allowed to be shown, but required viewers to subscribe to their YouTube Red channel, would you pay for the service?
I think I would, because the info on YouTube is just too valuable to pass up.
If YouTube had zero restrictions on what could be posted/viewed by purchased subscriptions, would you still pay for the access, knowing that there would likely be a whole lot more of stuff you find unacceptable to be hosted, would you pay for the service?
I realize that this isn't likely to happen and YouTube is trying to pick some dumb stance based on a loud minority, but I am interested in those questions.
And get a statistically significant percentage of your protein from all of the field mice, rabbits, grasshoppers and other bugs that get ground up into all that grain you eat. And feed your dogs and cats food made from ground up animals.
��
I don’t want to even think about it! I know the FDA has an allowable amount for those special ingredients. And the allowable amount is greater than zero.
68Charger
10-23-2018, 06:43
All cattle have had dairy though ��
And you can?t be vegan unless you talk about it all the time.
Is baby formula vegan? [Coffee]
I know they MAKE vegan baby formula, but I'll bet the vast majority of "vegan" humans have consumed milk from one mammal or another.
And they do talk about it plenty when they think it's feeding time...
And just like human vegans, I really can't understand what they're saying.
Is baby formula vegan? [Coffee]
I know they MAKE vegan baby formula, but I'll bet the vast majority of "vegan" humans have consumed milk from one mammal or another.
And they do talk about it plenty when they think it's feeding time...
And just like human vegans, I really can't understand what they're saying.
Saw this just this morning and is relevant...
https://imgur.com/lGWUY0h.jpg
BushMasterBoy
10-23-2018, 11:08
What is horrible is all the Jared Polis ads on almost every youtube video. I want to vote for anybody but him. The ads are so amateurish, loud and unconvincing. Obama would make a better governor. All he needs is clown makeup.
68Charger
10-23-2018, 11:33
Saw this just this morning and is relevant...
https://imgur.com/lGWUY0h.jpg
Very relevant- I don't know if gender-based violence is better or worse than non-gender violence.
I'm pretty sure the milking process isn't what I would call violent, either.
I could send her a pic of Optimus Prime (the Hereford steer going to butcher Nov 7th)- along with the cut sheet I'm filling out [panic]
(one of the many reasons I'm not on Twitter)
I'm pretty sure the milking process isn't what I would call violent, either.
It is without consent!!! [Rant1]
And every time a human drinks cow milk (or breastfeeds a baby for that matter) we are teaching them it's okay to put their hands on females.
(that was a joke but I'm sure some Feminist will tweet it soon)
ChickNorris
10-23-2018, 13:15
lol so now you're an anti-tit-tite
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.