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Skip
10-26-2018, 13:31
Gone is the belief that grassroot Dims don't want gun control and it is forced by out-of-touch elites...

What the Base Wants

https://wthh.dataforprogress.org/the-blue-wave-agenda/2018/10/26/what-the-base-wants

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5bc65a0fd7819e1a784dae84/t/5bd35df87817f7815479ee8e/1540578838237/?format=750w



Before you say "duh!" No, it wasn't always this way.

The only thing they want more than disarming their political opponents is free healthcare.

BPTactical
10-26-2018, 13:42
https://youtu.be/R-JjNp2aXys

izzy
10-26-2018, 13:43
I'm still going to say it .... Duh!

Grant H.
10-26-2018, 14:04
Not surprised, although I agree that it wasn't always this way.

Personal experience has taught me that the Dim base wants gun control because "it'll save the chilluns"...

68Charger
10-26-2018, 14:10
They have been indoctrinated through years of media bias.... and now they're getting stronger in their resolve because "those knuckle-dragging conservative retards want guns, so let's take them away"

Country is more divided than I can ever remember, and each side has a president to blame.

GeorgeandSugar
10-26-2018, 14:39
No surprise. I can feel my wallet being lifted from my pocket, not to mention my 401k heading south, less employments opportunity, no pay increase, higher taxes, and a bleaker future.


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Skip
10-26-2018, 14:43
They have been indoctrinated through years of media bias.... and now they're getting stronger in their resolve because "those knuckle-dragging conservative retards want guns, so let's take them away"

Country is more divided than I can ever remember, and each side has a president to blame.

It's also feels over facts.

Overall "gun violence" is down in the US. It remains high and increasing where there is gun control.

If the Left really cared about minorities (of all kinds) gun rights would be a bipartisan issue uniting against gun control.

Gman
10-26-2018, 14:57
Not surprised. The conservative Democrats were thrown out of the party decades ago. You either adopt the extremist platform, or you're out.

TFOGGER
10-26-2018, 14:59
They want gun control because the Party tells them they want gun control. Positive feedback loops are a bitch...

JohnnyDrama
10-27-2018, 08:16
They want gun control because the Party tells them they want gun control. Positive feedback loops are a bitch...

+1

I think gun control is a distantly removed issue for most democrats (and probably a lot of conservatives). Of the liberals I know, socialized medicine is top, hatred of Trump is next (Get Him!), then probably pay equity and/or making college "free" and forgiveness of student loans. Very few own firearms, or know people who do, with me being the exception, and it's out of sight, out of mind.

I believe this is a case of them doing what the party says to do. Scary none the less.

roberth
10-27-2018, 14:19
And the (D) that say they don't want gun control vote for candidates that push for gun control.

Eric P
10-27-2018, 21:34
Duh, how else can you steal, I mean tax, working folks money and give it to druggies, illegals and baby factories?

roberth
10-28-2018, 13:02
Duh, how else can you steal, I mean tax, working folks money and give it to druggies, illegals and baby factories?

Isn't that funny, the same group that advocates unrestrained baby creation is the same group that advocates for the murder of the same babies.

Jeffrey Lebowski
10-28-2018, 13:18
I believe this is a case of them doing what the party says to do. Scary none the less.

Ironically, they are fascinated with 1930s Germany and “literally Hitler.”

Bailey Guns
10-28-2018, 18:38
Gone is the belief that grassroot Dims don't want gun control and it is forced by out-of-touch elites...

<snip>

Before you say "duh!" No, it wasn't always this way.

Well, I'd have to disagree. At least in the sense that it's been this way for as long as most of us have been alive.

From the 1968 Democratic Party Platform:


THE NATION: The federal government has come swiftly to the aid of cities needing help to bring major disturbances under control, and Democratic leadership secured the enactment of a new gun control law as a step toward putting the weapons of wanton violence beyond the reach of criminal and irresponsible hands.


JUSTICE and LAW: Promote the passage and enforcement of effective federal, state and local gun control legislation.

And, of course, the democrats have a very racist history of denying blacks the right to own/carry guns since shortly after the Civil War. Even when the letter of the law prevented blacks/whites from certain activities in regards to guns the actual enforcement of the law was a different story.

Skip
10-29-2018, 08:21
Well, I'd have to disagree. At least in the sense that it's been this way for as long as most of us have been alive.

From the 1968 Democratic Party Platform:

[snip]

The OP makes a distinction between the elites and the base for this very reason. Of course the elites have always wanted a disarmed public to use violence (threat of violence) against us! That is the very nature of collectivism.

It's the changing opinion of the base that is significant.

Remember this from 2008... You wouldn't see this today.

https://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-10-14-aflcio.jpg

Bailey Guns
10-29-2018, 09:03
Well...someone has kept the party as a viable party all these years.

I'll concede that hard-core support for more gun control may be cyclical depending on the mood of the country. And obviously not all Democrats are in favor of it at any given time. But I'd guess the majority of Democrat voters are generally for some sort of gun control every election cycle.

Even those that aren't vote for it when they vote for Democrats. Doesn't matter how awesome a candidate is...if s/he is a Democrat, and you vote for them, you're voting for the party platform. And that includes gun control.

CS1983
10-29-2018, 09:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_vSaNMrG0

Guns are the new Salem Witch Trial.

Grant H.
10-29-2018, 10:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_vSaNMrG0

Guns are the new Salem Witch Trial.

gah...

The stupidity...

Circuits
10-29-2018, 11:09
They don't have to know with facts. Their feelings inform them that what they believe is correct.

Its the Darth Vader defense - one searches one's feelings and knows it to be true.

68Charger
10-29-2018, 11:50
What their base truly wants is to be told what to think and be taken care of, IMHO.

Where they fail at times is getting enough sensible moderates to buy their bovine scat.

GeorgeandSugar
10-29-2018, 15:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_vSaNMrG0

Guns are the new Salem Witch Trial.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181029/b1a214d086d68c662b4b242a214d10a3.jpg

LOL! Pathetic! If your a single issue voter, this definitely would be persuasive. The level of ignorance and stupidity is astonishing.

Will pass this onto my sister and explain to her why I don't want these people making decisions about MY firearms or the 2A.


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Skip
10-30-2018, 14:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_vSaNMrG0

Guns are the new Salem Witch Trial.

[ROFL2]

I'll be honest... I couldn't watch the whole thing.

Great-Kazoo
10-30-2018, 15:10
Where can i go for the deer cooking loophole ?

ChickNorris
10-30-2018, 15:10
^ What Skip said

Bailey Guns
10-31-2018, 18:25
I'll be honest... I couldn't watch the whole thing.

That had to be as painful as childbirth.

jreifsch80
11-01-2018, 11:11
I didn’t realize that hunting humans is legal