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DavieD55
12-05-2018, 01:05
That was fast: New York lawmakers want to use social media history to block people from gun ownership
Nate Madden (https://www.conservativereview.com/news/author/nmadden/) ? November 5, 2018

Some New York City lawmakers want to use people?s social media history to take away their Second Amendment rights.

According to reports, Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams and state Senator Kevin Palmer are drafting legislation that would give law enforcement the ability to comb through up to three years of a person?s social media and internet history (https://www.newsweek.com/lawmakers-propose-hate-speech-social-media-checks-gun-purchases-1200746?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR18uvkPGsnwFRmS1alDtSglbFgR5LARlGfsS0IZh raxMHqSvFnTHrQrs8U) before the person could purchase a firearm.


?If the police department is reviewing a gang assault, a robbery, some type of shooting, they go and do a social media profile investigation,? Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams said of the proposal on a recent radio appearance (https://wcbs880.radio.com/articles/lawmakers-drafting-bill-would-allow-social-media-checks-gun-purchase?fbclid=IwAR21cTENTTCWxHg_Eh6AFAv9g3D0Q9Ik g4Qu_lguol1FetRUZ6eJs_EAhuM). ?A three-year review of a social media profile would give an easy profile of a person who is not suitable to hold and possess a firearm.?

Wow. If you thought the ?no-fly, no buy? (https://www.conservativereview.com/news/senators-revive-unconstitutional-no-fly-list-gun-ban/) idea of stripping the Second Amendment rights of people on an arbitrary list with no due process was an unconstitutional farce, just wait until this becomes the next big gun trend.

The anti-gun crowd is sure to cling to it because it seems to directly address the details of the most recent gun crime ? just like stripping rights from people on the ?no-fly? list became the gun-grab proposal du jour after the Orlando shooting. However, it doesn?t hold up.


Yes, there are different forms of unprotected speech, like fighting words and direct incitement of violence, and there are crimes and conditions that can and should bar someone from gun ownership, but that?s not what we?re talking about.


What we?re really talking about is policing things that offend others under the vague premise of fighting ?hate? with government force. Like ?assault weapon,? there?s no real definition of ?hate speech,? and the term never seems to stop evolving in a society where every form of legitimate right-leaning political disagreement is quickly labeled as some ?hate? or prejudiced ?ism.?

What?s to stop those whose real end game is to ban all private gun ownership from calling pro-life posts ?hate speech? against women or pro-traditional marriage posts ?hate speech? against gays? They might even start considering anti-Israel BDS propaganda anti-Semitic ?hate speech? if it keeps guns out of private citizens? hands. Who knows? Such is the problem with using subjective, arbitrary standards to take away constitutional rights.


But saying things that hurt people?s feelings on social media isn?t a crime in the United States ? and under the First Amendment, it should never be. And it certainly shouldn?t mean that citizens lose a constitutional liberty over it.

There?s an old adage that says ?bad facts make bad law.? It?s very true, and fact-free frenzies driven by gun-related atrocities make even worse law.



Full Article (https://www.conservativereview.com/news/that-was-fast-new-york-lawmakers-want-to-use-social-media-history-to-block-people-from-gun-ownership/)

GeorgeandSugar
12-05-2018, 06:48
Figures. No end to their attempts to infringe upon law-abiding citizens. Plenty of other crap they could investigate when it comes to criminals and gun violence.

I?m not on SM, so nothing here to find. In fact, I am more interested in disappearing kinda like what happened in Altas Shrugged. Not there yet, but trying.


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Eric P
12-05-2018, 06:58
Death of conservatives on social media, or more fake accounts.

Government has no right to my thoughts and views. Government has no rights.

Irving
12-05-2018, 10:27
I?m not on SM, so nothing here to find.

Uh what? You just posted that you're not on social media, on social media.

KevDen2005
12-05-2018, 10:35
Uh what? You just posted that you're not on social media, on social media.

Come on Stu, everyone knows the people on here aren't social.

Irving
12-05-2018, 10:36
Ain't that the truth!

CS1983
12-05-2018, 11:17
Broadly, forums do include Social Media. But most people use it in a colloquial sense for things like Twitter, Facebook, etc.

Either way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_PV8QwhscI

GeorgeandSugar
12-05-2018, 13:00
Uh what? You just posted that you're not on social media, on social media.

I'll have to think about that.[emoji51]


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Justin
12-10-2018, 10:57
Not sure where I saw it, but there was an article about the guy who put this legislation forward, and evidently he has a history of getting physically violent with people.

Also, he was on Tucker Carlson's show, and comes across as a clueless idiot.

Zundfolge
12-10-2018, 21:56
I have literally one "social media" account under my real name, and that's my Linked In account. For the record, my name's not really Zundfolge.

Irving
12-10-2018, 22:36
I have literally one "social media" account under my real name, and that's my Linked In account. For the record, my name's not really Zundfolge.

That's too bad, because I took this picture of what I thought was your real name one time.

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DenverGP
12-11-2018, 00:06
That's too bad, because I took this picture of what I thought was your real name one time.


Zundfolge = "order of ignition"

Irving
12-11-2018, 00:20
Both sound like good names for metal bands.

Zundfolge
01-01-2019, 12:44
That's too bad, because I took this picture of what I thought was your real name one time.

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HA ... well that's basically where my name came from (at one time I worked on German cars for a living).