Hope you Boulder guys remembered to register your weapons

[ray1970]

So, since I have no ties to Boulder I don't keep up with their bullshit. I just realized that residents who own certain types of firearms have pretty much run out of time to register them (they call it "certify" but whatever). Failure to do so means if you get caught with them and they aren't registered then your weapon will be confiscated and destroyed and you could see jail time and a fine?

[kidicarus13]

As of 11/30/18 (85) people have certified... err uh registered their assault weapons. Highly likely <85 individual owners. No one else cares.

[roberth]

All the fucking (D) should turn their guns in.

[MileHighShooting]

Compliance to registration/certification seems to be minimal at best. Even in Ontario, of the estimated 1.6 million guns affected by the registration guidelines, just 284,125 have been declared to authorities.

Will governments ever get the clue?

[thedave1164]

Compliance to registration/certification seems to be minimal at best. Even in Ontario, of the estimated 1.6 million guns affected by the registration guidelines, just 284,125 have been declared to authorities.

Will governments ever get the clue?

LOL, no one would defy a socialist utopia

[Singlestack]

Not a surprise that virtually nobody "certified". The real key will be if they prosecute, under what circumstances, and to what extent.

[def90]

Last I heard locally is there were some 300 or so certifications handed out.

[Gcompact30]

Prisons are over crowded and they are letting people out so I think Boulder resident’s will be good LOL. Amazing

[Erni]

Prisons are over crowded and they are letting people out so I think Boulder resident?s will be good LOL. Amazing
Please. You know they would make room for us even if it means releasing serious criminals.

[Will1776]

Does anyone know how the Boulder cops are? Do they even care?

[def90]

Does anyone know how the Boulder cops are? Do they even care?

I have received info from Boulder police on what they see are loopholes in the law.. which I took as they don’t care and if you do this is how to get around it.

even at the council meetings the police as well as the city attorney agrred that you would have to have an assault rifle out in the open visible to police for them to do anything about it. Driving around town with a rifle case in your back seat and they don’t have any authority to ask you what is inside of it. As a municipal code they stated that the court would never issue a search warrant on a municipal violation.

As far as I can see this law will only ever come up if you have already committed a crime and it is an add on (then again this is a city municiplal code so it would never come up on lets say an assault or murder charge as that would be charged at a different level in the court system) or if you have a crazy girlfriend or ex that accuses you of some sort of domestic and tells them you have guns that you are ready to use, basically a swatting incident.

[20X11]

As of 11/30/18 (85) people have certified... err uh registered their assault weapons. Highly likely <85 individual owners. No one else cares.

So, 1 gun owner? [ROFL2]

[BPTactical]

Boulder, City of can eat a dick.








And ask for seconds.

[Justin]

My understanding is that it's not a registration.

The cops keep no record of who certified what, and it's on the owner to keep the paper certification with their gun in case they're stopped by the cops.

Frankly, I'm somewhat surprised that no one has scanned and uploaded a high resolution copy of their certificate so others can see what it looks like.

[TFOGGER]

My understanding is that it's not a registration.

The cops keep no record of who certified what, and it's on the owner to keep the paper certification with their gun in case they're stopped by the cops.



Yeah, right.

They'll still respect you in the morning, and the check's in the mail.

[Justin]

Not a Boulder guy, but it would be interesting to hear from someone who's gone through the process.

[ray1970]

My understanding is that it's not a registration.


I?m not sure if that?s the joke or the punchline.

[DDT951]

My understanding is that it's not a registration.

The cops keep no record of who certified what, and it's on the owner to keep the paper certification with their gun in case they're stopped by the cops.

Frankly, I'm somewhat surprised that no one has scanned and uploaded a high resolution copy of their certificate so others can see what it looks like.



OK.

So think about this with a little logic. Just a little.

The City of Boulder Charges for this.

https://bouldercolorado.gov/police/firearm-certification

"The cost of this service is $20.00 for the first firearm and $5.00 for each additional firearm during the same certification. Payment can be made by cash, check or credit card. The police department is only able to accept Visa and Master Card."

So let assume someone pays the Police Dept $30. Basic math tells me that is 3 "assault weapons". Any disagreement?

Is the City allowed to keep a record of who made financial transactions with them, how much it was for, and what it is for?

So please explain the difference to me between recording Joe Bob paid $30 for firearms certification (which means 3 guns) and a registry? It is simply semantics.

And if you pay via CC your CC company has a record also....

[DDT951]

So, 1 gun owner? [ROFL2]


There are 2. You forgot John Caldara...

I wonder when Boulder PD will arrest him since he filed suit against them?

[BPTactical]

My understanding is that it's not a registration.

The cops keep no record of who certified what, and it's on the owner to keep the paper certification with their gun in case they're stopped by the cops.

Frankly, I'm somewhat surprised that no one has scanned and uploaded a high resolution copy of their certificate so others can see what it looks like.


Please, tell me your not that naive and ignorant.

[Justin]

If the cops weren't given the funds to stand up and maintain a database, then they're not going to stand up and maintain a database.

[spqrzilla]

The point is that the accounting section of Boulder city has a database.

[Hummer]

There are 2. You forgot John Caldara...

I wonder when Boulder PD will arrest him since he filed suit against them?

If they were so thoughtless, John would surely sue the PD, and that would likely include monetary damages.

I do like his approach of publicly calling out the city council members as ignorant, intolerant bigots.

Personally, I thing they should all be tried for treason and hanged.

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2019/01/02/caldara-on-january-1-i-became-a-gun-criminal-in-my-hometown-of-boulder/

[davsel]

Directly from the Boulder PD link:
https://bouldercolorado.gov/police/firearm-certification

Once the background check comes back clear, two certificates per firearm will be filled out by hand and given to the person registering the firearm.

[Lippy Laroux]

How the hell are you supposed to use cash or check if they don't take either of them? Is there another registration venue that does take cash? Must be written by Liberals.

[BPTactical]

Again: Boulder, City of can eat a dick.

[hurley842002]

Again: Boulder, City of can eat a dick.You've got it all wrong, they would like eating dick way too much.

[boxy]

What weapons?

[Will1776]

What weapons?

Lost em fly fishing since we don't have the ocean here lol

[Mtneer]

Longtime resident, moved outside the city line a decade ago. No registration for me. Just bought a new car and found out I saved 5% sales tax (roughly $1500) that would have gone to the city but for a few miles. Boulder council: I fart in your general direction.

[Great-Kazoo]

Bad news people. All of CO is about to get Polised. What's good for boulder will be proposed by spring for all of CO.

[BPTactical]

^^^Unfortunatly what he said.

[brutal]

^^^Unfortunatly what he said.

Then the state can eat a bag of dicks.

[Great-Kazoo]

Then the state can eat a bag of dicks.

That's a mean spirited slight towards your new governor. Or a truism based on known gender selection.

[BladesNBarrels]

If they were so thoughtless, John would surely sue the PD, and that would likely include monetary damages.

I do like his approach of publicly calling out the city council members as ignorant, intolerant bigots.

Personally, I thing they should all be tried for treason and hanged.

https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2019/01/02/caldara-on-january-1-i-became-a-gun-criminal-in-my-hometown-of-boulder/

Saw the commentary in the Denver Post, where John Caldara is a regular contributor.
https://www.denverpost.com/2018/12/28/on-january-1-i-become-a-criminal-for-doing-nothing/

In a city of such incredible tolerance, why are his children being bullied in school? And what is the School Administration doing about that?
Inquiring Minds Want to Know???

[.455_Hunter]

In a city of such incredible tolerance, why are his children being bullied in school? And what is the School Administration doing about that?
Inquiring Minds Want to Know???

My kids are in Boulder Valley School District and I know for a fact that such bullying would NOT be tolerated at my son's middle school. The Principal is, how could we say, "a good guy".

[hollohas]

Bad news people. All of CO is about to get Polised. What's good for boulder will be proposed by spring for all of CO.Exactly.

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[kidicarus13]

SENTINEL COLORADO

EDITORIAL: Colorado Dems must go with the political flow and enact gun safety bills now - Sentinel Colorado

  

The tide has turned at the state Capitol, and it?s time to seize the opportunity to make Colorado safer.
Democratic legislators and Colorado?s new governor, who effectively now control state government, would make a grievous mistake by finally enacting long overdue gun-safety legislation.
The once-honorable National Rifle Association has evolved to become a ruthless political arm of the nation?s $43-billion-a-year gun industry. Its clear focus is to ensure the easy and prolific procurement, use and sale of firearms and ammunition.
Over the past few decades, the NRA and groups such as Rocky Mountain Gun Owners and the Independence Institute have deviously woven a gun-rights mythology with fierce patriotism.
It?s not in any way patriotic to turn firearms on fellow citizens upwards of 100,000 times a year.
Colorado residents are the unwitting subjects of a vastly expensive and relentless marketing scheme coupled with an ocean of money spent annually on ensuring compliance from obedient and fearful members of Congress and the Colorado Legislature.
The NRA mythology is pegged on equating the U.S. Constitution?s First Amendment, guaranteeing free speech, with the Second Amendment, preserving the ability of citizen militias to help defend the nation against foreign invaders. They have worked tirelessly to persuade Congress and Colorado voters that there should be no regulation of firearms in the same way there is virtually no regulation of speech.
The result is a chaotic free-for-all where about 100,000 Americans are killed or maimed each year by firearms. We are killed and wounded by guns at a rate that is 25 times higher than any other developed democratic nation. It is our nation?s biggest embarrassment and preventable tragedy.
For those who insist gun-safety measures won?t reduce gun violence and mass murders, the dozens of free, Democratic nations across the globe that protect the rights of hunters and sportsmen and reasonably regulate firearms are proof that it can be done.
Colorado Democrat Party leaders should set aside talk of the last time Democrats had this kind of control in 2013 and pushed through measures to ensure background checks and magazine size. The two bills were born of the Aurora theater shooting massacre and were only the start of a long list of work needing to be done to rein in rampant gun violence.
Shortly after, Republican extremists surprisingly and successfully recalled two lawmakers over their support of the gun bills. The recall was pulled off in a special election that few voters took notice of. Even if the same extremists pulled the same stunt again, voters and Democrats are wise to the scam.
Some Democrats are fearful of certain backlash from gun-rights and right-wing extremists if they act now on pushing through a red-flag bill and other gun-safety measures that can provably save lives. They should step down now. Every lawmaker was sent by voters to the state Capitol to do a job, not to work to preserve their power.
The political tide, however, has strategically turned across the state. A majority of voters here have made it clear they no longer believe the outrageous lies generated by the NRA and other gun lobbyists. Voters see through the empty rhetoric of the far-right and have overwhelmingly pushed back against the government of President Donald Trump.
History, voters, common sense and righteousness are on the side of Democrats and Republicans who know that realistic gun-safety legislation can and will reduce gun violence and deaths.
Start now in Colorado.

[Irving]

ensuring compliance from obedient and fearful members of Congress and the Colorado Legislature.

This was my favorite part.

[BPTactical]

SENTINEL COLORADO

EDITORIAL: Colorado Dems must go with the political flow and enact gun safety bills now - Sentinel Colorado

  

The tide has turned at the state Capitol, and it?s time to seize the opportunity to make Colorado safer.
Democratic legislators and Colorado?s new governor, who effectively now control state government, would make a grievous mistake by finally enacting long overdue gun-safety legislation.
The once-honorable National Rifle Association has evolved to become a ruthless political arm of the nation?s $43-billion-a-year gun industry. Its clear focus is to ensure the easy and prolific procurement, use and sale of firearms and ammunition.
Over the past few decades, the NRA and groups such as Rocky Mountain Gun Owners and the Independence Institute have deviously woven a gun-rights mythology with fierce patriotism.
It?s not in any way patriotic to turn firearms on fellow citizens upwards of 100,000 times a year.
Colorado residents are the unwitting subjects of a vastly expensive and relentless marketing scheme coupled with an ocean of money spent annually on ensuring compliance from obedient and fearful members of Congress and the Colorado Legislature.
The NRA mythology is pegged on equating the U.S. Constitution?s First Amendment, guaranteeing free speech, with the Second Amendment, preserving the ability of citizen militias to help defend the nation against foreign invaders. They have worked tirelessly to persuade Congress and Colorado voters that there should be no regulation of firearms in the same way there is virtually no regulation of speech.
The result is a chaotic free-for-all where about 100,000 Americans are killed or maimed each year by firearms. We are killed and wounded by guns at a rate that is 25 times higher than any other developed democratic nation. It is our nation?s biggest embarrassment and preventable tragedy.
For those who insist gun-safety measures won?t reduce gun violence and mass murders, the dozens of free, Democratic nations across the globe that protect the rights of hunters and sportsmen and reasonably regulate firearms are proof that it can be done.
Colorado Democrat Party leaders should set aside talk of the last time Democrats had this kind of control in 2013 and pushed through measures to ensure background checks and magazine size. The two bills were born of the Aurora theater shooting massacre and were only the start of a long list of work needing to be done to rein in rampant gun violence.
Shortly after, Republican extremists surprisingly and successfully recalled two lawmakers over their support of the gun bills. The recall was pulled off in a special election that few voters took notice of. Even if the same extremists pulled the same stunt again, voters and Democrats are wise to the scam.
Some Democrats are fearful of certain backlash from gun-rights and right-wing extremists if they act now on pushing through a red-flag bill and other gun-safety measures that can provably save lives. They should step down now. Every lawmaker was sent by voters to the state Capitol to do a job, not to work to preserve their power.
The political tide, however, has strategically turned across the state. A majority of voters here have made it clear they no longer believe the outrageous lies generated by the NRA and other gun lobbyists. Voters see through the empty rhetoric of the far-right and have overwhelmingly pushed back against the government of President Donald Trump.
History, voters, common sense and righteousness are on the side of Democrats and Republicans who know that realistic gun-safety legislation can and will reduce gun violence and deaths.
Start now in Colorado.

The comments are great.

[DDT951]

Bad news people. All of CO is about to get Polised. What's good for boulder will be proposed by spring for all of CO.

I have a few definitions of "Polised" running through my head....

I probably can't say what they are.... but the meaning is probably 100% spot on...

[TEAMRICO]

Colorado Constitution.

Section 13. Right to bear arms. The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.


Anyone care to break this down?

[DDT951]

Colorado Constitution.

Section 13. Right to bear arms. The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.


Anyone care to break this down?


It is easy to break down:

We are Boulder City Council and we dont give a damn about your rights, the judges dont give a damn about the Colorado Costitition or law and will do social engineering from the bench and back us, so dont bother with posting irrelevant drivel like the Colorado Constitution which sense we are home rule city dont have to follow anyway.



Does that break it down well enough?

[TEAMRICO]

Crystal clear!
And I shall do the same. If rule of law means nothing then they set the example.

[Rucker61]

Colorado Constitution.

Section 13. Right to bear arms. The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question; but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.


Anyone care to break this down?

1. Open carry is a right except when it isn't, and concealed carry is a privilege,
2. As long as you can own one type of weapon your right isn't restricted.

That's the CO Dem interpretation.

[Hummer]

https://www.nratv.com/videos/relentless-lesley-hollywood-brave-boulder-colorado-residents-not-complying-with-new-gun-ban

[wctriumph]

When the law makers break the law, then there is no law.

[Hummer]

When the law makers break the law, then there is no law.

I firmly believe that there should be criminal penalties for public officials who break the law. Too often there are no consequences for blatantly defying the laws and the only recourse for those affected is through a costly civil system designed to delay and enrich attorneys.

[Great-Kazoo]

I firmly believe that there should be criminal penalties for public officials who break the law. Too often there are no consequences for blatantly defying the laws and the only recourse for those affected is through a costly civil system designed to delay and enrich attorneys.

Law makers being held liable for anything, went down the shitter the night Teddy Kennedy walked home.

[def90]

Jill Adler Grano, the Council Member that initiated the Assault Weapons Ban resigns from the City Council to take on a new job with House Member Rep. Joe Neguse..

Her reward for getting this law passed?

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_32365794/boulder-councilwoman-jill-grano-resigning-take-position-u

"Boulder City Councilwoman Jill Adler Grano is resigning her seat after a year to take a position with U.S. Rep. Joe Neguse's staff.

Grano's resignation is effective Friday, and she now will become director of community affairs for Neguse, who was just elected to represent Colorado's 2nd Congressional District."

[BPTactical]

Jill Adler Grano, the Council Member that initiated the Assault Weapons Ban resigns from the City Council to take on a new job with House Member Rep. Joe Neguse..

Her reward for getting this law passed?

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_32365794/boulder-councilwoman-jill-grano-resigning-take-position-u

"Boulder City Councilwoman Jill Adler Grano is resigning her seat after a year to take a position with U.S. Rep. Joe Neguse's staff.

Grano's resignation is effective Friday, and she now will become director of community affairs for Neguse, who was just elected to represent Colorado's 2nd Congressional District."

They take care of their own dont they?

[Zundfolge]

Jon Caldera finally puts his money where his mouth is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG2c7vbJXxg

[Will1776]

Jon Caldera finally puts his money where his mouth is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG2c7vbJXxg

That is the best video I have seen in a long time. So well spoken. Wow.

[CS1983]

can someone tell me the video title so I can look it up on youpak? video embed is blocked for me.

[Irving]

"Caldera: Why I won't comply with Boulder's gun ban"

[CS1983]

Cool. thanks.

[Great-Kazoo]

They take care of their own dont they?

It's called the Weinstein Effect.

[Gman]

Are There AR-15-Owning Democrats Defying Boulder's Assault Weapons Ban? (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/01/16/boulder-n2538723)


Last year, after the tragic shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Boulder, Colorado decided to ban AR-15 rifles. Current residents who owned these firearms were subject to a grandfather clause. They also had until July 18, 2018 to get rid of, or sell, so-called high-capacity magazines and bump stocks. Those who were grandfathered in had until December 27, 2018 to certify their rifles with the local sheriff’s department. There is no paper trail. No records are kept, but it sure sounds like a test run for a gun registry. Only 342 people have certified their rifles. You know there are more out there. The Democratic Party is anti-gun, but outside of the urban strongholds, the Acela Corridor, and the liberal northeast, there seems to be more than a few who like their firearms. It appears a good cluster of pro-gun Democrats is in Boulder. And yes, they’re defying the ordinance (via Washington Times):

Only 342 “assault weapons,” or semiautomatic rifles, were certified by Boulder police before the Dec. 31 deadline, meaning there could be thousands of residents in the scenic university town of 107,000 in violation of the sweeping gun-control ordinance.

“I would say the majority of people I’ve talked to just aren’t complying because most people see this as a registry,” said Lesley Hollywood, executive director of the Colorado Second Amendment group Rally for Our Rights. “Boulder actually has a very strong firearms community.”

The ordinance, approved by the city council unanimously, banned the possession and sale of “assault weapons,” defined as semiautomatic rifles with a pistol grip, folding stock, or ability to accept a detachable magazine. Semiautomatic pistols and shotguns are also included.

[…]

The firearms community in Boulder — they may be Democrats but they love their firearms,” said Ms. Hollywood, herself a former Boulder resident.

[…]

City Attorney Tom Carr has acknowledged that enforcing the ordinance will be a challenge, telling the Boulder Daily Camera that “there’s no circumstance where we go door-to-door and ask people if they’ve violated the law.”

[Great-Kazoo]

City Attorney Tom Carr has acknowledged that enforcing the ordinance will be a challenge, telling the Boulder Daily Camera that “there’s no circumstance where we go door-to-door and ask people if they’ve violated the law.
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