HOA parking

[vossman]

Have any of your communities fought the HOA street parking rules and won? We were allowed to park on the street for a while then they just changed it again.

[DavieD55]

Have any of your communities fought the HOA street parking rules and won? We were allowed to park on the street for a while then they just changed it again.


When election season comes around go door to door campaigning to your neighbors on what bullshit the parking situation is, run for your HOA and get elected, sit on the board for a few months, make the change you desire, then resign and let someone who isn't a control freak take over.


There you have it...that's how you fight it.

[DDT951]

Check with the city/county you live in. Likely the streets are owned by the city or county and the HOA cannot enforce anything on city/county owned property. The city/county ordinances apply.

Of course an HOA can tell you they can limit street parking. They can make you life hell. But likely you will win in court. And then there will be no more HOA if you sue the officers/directors. If the HOA doesnt have the funds to settle the money you will be owed for attorney's fees, they will file bankruptcy.

How far to you want to push it? How much money do you have to push it?

[Irving]

When election season comes around go door to door campaigning to your neighbors on what bullshit the parking situation is, run for your HOA and get elected, sit on the board for a few months, make the change you desire, then resign and let someone who isn't a control freak take over.


There you have it...that's how you fight it.

My little brother did exactly this and now he's the president.

[DavieD55]

My little brother did exactly this and now he's the president.


[HiFive]

[iego]

If you can't beat them, join them. :)

-John {HOA Board Member}

[vossman]

If you can't beat them, join them. :)

-John {HOA Board Member}

Nice. I just may do that.

[DavieD55]

Especially talk with those who might have multiple vehicles who need more parking space or for when their friends and family come to visit. Look for pro gun and pro freedom bumper stickers and American flags flying a good way to build up your base of support.
[Coffee]

[iego]

That's not how HOA's work. If you show up, you get elected to be a board member.

"In this country, you gotta make the HOA first. Then when you get the HOA, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”

-John

[Skywalker]

Are you actually in COS or Peyton? We/I are dealing with this right now! I moved in and there is a deep rooted neighborhood control group vs neighborhood watch. They ran off the previous owners of this home and I felt there was something up during the purchase. They were mad about something and I'm now feeling it as well. People working coordinated complaints for anything in the two block group of fine HOA breakers themselves. I have cars... collector and hot rods and they were all nosey when I moved in and each casually coming around but were simply up to no good. Parked on the street with two daily drivers for 1 1/2 years with no problem. However, after listening to a barking dog "good dog BTW" but was left out daily to be alone. There was other neighbors who casually ask me how I put up with it... they had complained already for a long while it seems. So, when I can't catch neighbors as they don't socilize and stay inside mostly, I put in an HOA complaint. Then I get two big piles of dog shit on my covered concrete porch. In my lifetime with many dogs... neighbors dogs tend to crap in your yard but not the porch! I highly suspect the chess player neighbor from behind and not the dog owner orchastrated this with another neighborhood "control member" to leash his dogs over to my porch knowing, I would think the barking dog next door did it. It sucks not to know for sure but anyways... after the barking complaint and the crap and complaint of said crap, I'm getting hammered for parking on the street! This is my first HOA and I intended for this to be my forever home. I will not be ran off you can bet on that! I was here for approx six weeks in 2017 when my beautiful green grass in my back yard had a pile of human feces right dead center! I'm old enough to know what it looks like! Within weeks there was an area over night died and was in the shap of a 5 gal bucket of what ever tossed on it! We all should open a new community of gun loving hot rod driving only members!


Have any of your communities fought the HOA street parking rules and won? We were allowed to park on the street for a while then they just changed it again.

[mb504]

Are you actually in COS or Peyton? We/I are dealing with this right now! I moved in and there is a deep rooted neighborhood control group vs neighborhood watch. They ran off the previous owners of this home and I felt there was something up during the purchase. They were mad about something and I'm now feeling it as well. People working coordinated complaints for anything in the two block group of fine HOA breakers themselves. I have cars... collector and hot rods and they were all nosey when I moved in and each casually coming around but were simply up to no good. Parked on the street with two daily drivers for 1 1/2 years with no problem. However, after listening to a barking dog "good dog BTW" but was left out daily to be alone. There was other neighbors who casually ask me how I put up with it... they had complained already for a long while it seems. So, when I can't catch neighbors as they don't socilize and stay inside mostly, I put in an HOA complaint. Then I get two big piles of dog shit on my covered concrete porch. In my lifetime with many dogs... neighbors dogs tend to crap in your yard but not the porch! I highly suspect the chess player neighbor from behind and not the dog owner orchastrated this with another neighborhood "control member" to leash his dogs over to my porch knowing, I would think the barking dog next door did it. It sucks not to know for sure but anyways... after the barking complaint and the crap and complaint of said crap, I'm getting hammered for parking on the street! This is my first HOA and I intended for this to be my forever home. I will not be ran off you can bet on that! I was here for approx six weeks in 2017 when my beautiful green grass in my back yard had a pile of human feces right dead center! I'm old enough to know what it looks like! Within weeks there was an aread over night died and was in the shap of a 5 gal bucket of what ever tossed on it! We all should open a new community of gun loving hot rod driving only members!

Sounds like you need some cameras!

[Great-Kazoo]

Sounds like you need some cameras!

And paragraphs ;)

[Grant H.]

Are you actually in COS or Peyton? We/I are dealing with this right now! I moved in and there is a deep rooted neighborhood control group vs neighborhood watch. They ran off the previous owners of this home and I felt there was something up during the purchase. They were mad about something and I'm now feeling it as well. People working coordinated complaints for anything in the two block group of fine HOA breakers themselves. I have cars... collector and hot rods and they were all nosey when I moved in and each casually coming around but were simply up to no good. Parked on the street with two daily drivers for 1 1/2 years with no problem. However, after listening to a barking dog "good dog BTW" but was left out daily to be alone. There was other neighbors who casually ask me how I put up with it... they had complained already for a long while it seems. So, when I can't catch neighbors as they don't socilize and stay inside mostly, I put in an HOA complaint. Then I get two big piles of dog shit on my covered concrete porch. In my lifetime with many dogs... neighbors dogs tend to crap in your yard but not the porch! I highly suspect the chess player neighbor from behind and not the dog owner orchastrated this with another neighborhood "control member" to leash his dogs over to my porch knowing, I would think the barking dog next door did it. It sucks not to know for sure but anyways... after the barking complaint and the crap and complaint of said crap, I'm getting hammered for parking on the street! This is my first HOA and I intended for this to be my forever home. I will not be ran off you can bet on that! I was here for approx six weeks in 2017 when my beautiful green grass in my back yard had a pile of human feces right dead center! I'm old enough to know what it looks like! Within weeks there was an area over night died and was in the shap of a 5 gal bucket of what ever tossed on it! We all should open a new community of gun loving hot rod driving only members!

You need cameras, and now.

Video record everything, call the cops and file police reports when things happen. I've helped a good friend go down this same path with cameras and filing police reports against HOA twats, and it's amazing how fast they give up when you have video footage of their antics and the police come visiting to say "WTF is wrong with you"...

HOA's are of the devil, and this kind of crap is exactly why I will NEVER own a house in an HOA/covenant controlled neighborhood.

No, there isn't one good thing about HOA's.

[Skywalker]

Thanks Grant. Appreciate the reply and I have put together a full detail of events and there is much more then just the above mentioned items. I'm going to have to pursue this a bit further and really wish I had not picked an HOA type neighborhood. I actually visited the HOA Managment rep for this area Friday and left feeling a little better buth these personal issues are just that, personal and not HOA. The parking, if they enforce accross the board with the entire 2000 plus community then I can deal with that but if I was being singled out that is not cool.


You need cameras, and now.

Video record everything, call the cops and file police reports when things happen. I've helped a good friend go down this same path with cameras and filing police reports against HOA twats, and it's amazing how fast they give up when you have video footage of their antics and the police come visiting to say "WTF is wrong with you"...

HOA's are of the devil, and this kind of crap is exactly why I will NEVER own a house in an HOA/covenant controlled neighborhood.

No, there isn't one good thing about HOA's.

[brutal]

Are you actually in COS or Peyton? We/I are dealing with this right now! I moved in and there is a deep rooted neighborhood control group vs neighborhood watch. They ran off the previous owners of this home and I felt there was something up during the purchase. They were mad about something and I'm now feeling it as well. People working coordinated complaints for anything in the two block group of fine HOA breakers themselves. I have cars... collector and hot rods and they were all nosey when I moved in and each casually coming around but were simply up to no good. Parked on the street with two daily drivers for 1 1/2 years with no problem. However, after listening to a barking dog "good dog BTW" but was left out daily to be alone. There was other neighbors who casually ask me how I put up with it... they had complained already for a long while it seems. So, when I can't catch neighbors as they don't socilize and stay inside mostly, I put in an HOA complaint. Then I get two big piles of dog shit on my covered concrete porch. In my lifetime with many dogs... neighbors dogs tend to crap in your yard but not the porch! I highly suspect the chess player neighbor from behind and not the dog owner orchastrated this with another neighborhood "control member" to leash his dogs over to my porch knowing, I would think the barking dog next door did it. It sucks not to know for sure but anyways... after the barking complaint and the crap and complaint of said crap, I'm getting hammered for parking on the street! This is my first HOA and I intended for this to be my forever home. I will not be ran off you can bet on that! I was here for approx six weeks in 2017 when my beautiful green grass in my back yard had a pile of human feces right dead center! I'm old enough to know what it looks like! Within weeks there was an area over night died and was in the shap of a 5 gal bucket of what ever tossed on it! We all should open a new community of gun loving hot rod driving only members!


Sounds like you need some cameras!


And paragraphs ;)


You need cameras, and now.

Video record everything, call the cops and file police reports when things happen. I've helped a good friend go down this same path with cameras and filing police reports against HOA twats, and it's amazing how fast they give up when you have video footage of their antics and the police come visiting to say "WTF is wrong with you"...

HOA's are of the devil, and this kind of crap is exactly why I will NEVER own a house in an HOA/covenant controlled neighborhood.

No, there isn't one good thing about HOA's.

Ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto.

[Hoser]

Have any of your communities fought the HOA street parking rules and won? We were allowed to park on the street for a while then they just changed it again.

We got the same notice.

Our HOA can go eat a dick.

We should go to a meeting and make the motion that we abolish the HOA.

[Skywalker]

Please insert your own genitalia into one of your orifices. [ROFL1]


And paragraphs ;)

[battlemidget]

Check out Arlo cameras. They're a little pricey, but they're battery operated (really does last 2-3 months), and wireless so installation is rather simple. They store 1 weeks worth of hits 'in the cloud' for free, and you can hookup a usb hard drive to the camera hub to keep the video stored locally indef.

[Skywalker]

Outstanding review IMHO. I like netgear products! There is an ARLO PRO 2 out now. https://youtu.be/Zu50FNOae1U https://youtu.be/3bbZwt8rqtA


Check out Arlo cameras. They're a little pricey, but they're battery operated (really does last 2-3 months), and wireless so installation is rather simple. They store 1 weeks worth of hits 'in the cloud' for free, and you can hookup a usb hard drive to the camera hub to keep the video stored locally indef.

[BushMasterBoy]

If you have someone bothering you, run a background check. Intelius is a good company for that. See if they have any felony convictions,bankruptcies etc. Check the relatives that stay around the subjects house, too. See if they are registered sex offenders. Check social media. Build a dossier.

[Skip]

Almost got the Arlos but realized I would never have time to recharge and be diligent about it.

Went with Wyzecams instead. Power is hard-wired but data is wireless. Has cloud event storage and a local SD card (limited to 32GB which is about 3-4 days of HD).

Integrated IR. Sound alerts (but sometimes that is sketchy). Can set a motion alert pattern. Cams are $25 and with some cheap housing from Amazon they do well outside although mine aren't exposed to water. I painted the housings and these are so small you can't even see them from the curb.

[Irving]

Link to what you bought. Do they come in packages?

[Skip]

Here's what I bought...

https://www.wyzecam.com/

They are a la cart unless you get on the email list and see a deal (this has only happened once). You buy as many as you need, fixed v2 or pan. Each has it's own MAC ID and is config'd via the app.

I bought one to try it out before I bought more and hard-wired.

[CS1983]

Is the wireless via WPS or will it auto rejoin if it loses connection?

[brutal]

Almost got the Arlos but realized I would never have time to recharge and be diligent about it.

Went with Wyzecams instead. Power is hard-wired but data is wireless. Has cloud event storage and a local SD card (limited to 32GB which is about 3-4 days of HD).

Integrated IR. Sound alerts (but sometimes that is sketchy). Can set a motion alert pattern. Cams are $25 and with some cheap housing from Amazon they do well outside although mine aren't exposed to water. I painted the housings and these are so small you can't even see them from the curb.

I bought Wyze cams on sale cheap and tried to use the openIPC/dafang hacks to use them with Blue Iris . Useless. They were always locking up or going offline. Not bad cams for the price, but didn't meet my needs. You can integrate them with TinyCam as is, but that's just one more platform for me to mess with and I'd like to keep everything running through Blue Iris. The cheap Foscam and Hikvision cams work great so I'll just stick with those.

[ETA] Looks like they'll be releasing RTSP via a separate firmware for RTSP users Q2. https://forums.wyzecam.com/t/wyze-q-a-episode-1/18230

[Skip]

Is the wireless via WPS or will it auto rejoin if it loses connection?

I don't know about WPS but I use WPA2 and have no issues. My cams are always up AFAIK. I do get the occasional warning about HD/bandwidth on my outmost cams outside the house.

I just use the Wyze app with them. It is frustrating having to use the app for everything though which is limiting. But for $20-25 each I'm willing to deal with it.

[Martinjmpr]

We put in Arlo cameras in 2017 and they work great. Yes, they do need to be recharged every few months. It's a hassle, yes, but a pretty minor one. I get the ladder out, get the camera down, plug it into the charger for a day or so and then put it back up.

WRT HOA's and the specific question the OP posted, as with most legal questions the answer is "it depends." Some HOA neighborhoods are on public streets and the HOA can eat a dick if they don't like the way people park as long as they are following city/county/state laws regarding public parking (and do your research here, some municipalities require street-parked vehicles to be moved every 72 hours.)

However, some HOAs have streets that are NOT public and therefore HOA rules apply (big condo/townhouse communities are often like this, and gated communities almost always are.) In that case, you can still beat the HOA even if they are technically correct if you can show the rules are being enforced arbitrarily or inconsistently.

Funny story: We live in a neighborhood with a "voluntary" HOA. About 18 months ago the HOA sued a homeowner for not clearing their shed project with the HOA architectural committee. The HOA took the resident to court and lost. We later found out that this HOA has been to court 15 times in the past 3 years suing residents and has lost 14 times.

The HOA rules state that only HOA members can vote which in practice means there is a small "core" of people who just keep voting for each other. The drawback to the HOA being "voluntary" is that most people don't care enough to get involved (there are 199 houses in our subdivision and the highest the HOA membership has ever been is about 45. Current membership is around 30 or 15%.) For the most part they're harmless.

WRT the "value" of HOAs we live right next to a larger neighborhood with a much less restrictive HOA (for example, in that neighborhood they can park RVs in front of their homes - that's a no-go in our neighborhood where they have to be behind a fence.) I've also noted, though, that home values tend to be lower in that neighborhood than they are in ours.

Is it the HOA that makes the difference? Could be - the houses are more or less identical to the ones in our neighborhood but the homes in our area tend to be better kept up.

Having said all the above, our next home (which we will move to after I retire in about 8 years) will NOT be in an HOA neighborhood. Wife and I both agree on that.

[CS1983]

I don't know about WPS but I use WPA2 and have no issues. My cams are always up AFAIK. I do get the occasional warning about HD/bandwidth on my outmost cams outside the house.

I just use the Wyze app with them. It is frustrating having to use the app for everything though which is limiting. But for $20-25 each I'm willing to deal with it.

I'm assuming you have to connect to the cam w/ the app somehow and set up its access to the wireless network w/ network password, then?

My only experience w/ wireless cams has been the DLink ones that you have to push a WPS button. If it drops, you have to manually rejoin by pushing the button again. So I always hated using it since it's not guaranteed to not drop and be dead for the duration of my absence. Always ran a hard line but it limited my placement abilities.

[Martinjmpr]

I'm assuming you have to connect to the cam w/ the app somehow and set up its access to the wireless network w/ network password, then?

My only experience w/ wireless cams has been the DLink ones that you have to push a WPS button. If it drops, you have to manually rejoin by pushing the button again. So I always hated using it since it's not guaranteed to not drop and be dead for the duration of my absence. Always ran a hard line but it limited my placement abilities.

FWIW I believe Arlo cameras are bluetooth connected to the home station and the home station connects to the network via a network cable to our cable modem. So our Arlo cameras are not dependent on the wireless network being up (though obviously we do still have to have internet connectivity.)

[Skip]

I'm assuming you have to connect to the cam w/ the app somehow and set up its access to the wireless network w/ network password, then?

My only experience w/ wireless cams has been the DLink ones that you have to push a WPS button. If it drops, you have to manually rejoin by pushing the button again. So I always hated using it since it's not guaranteed to not drop and be dead for the duration of my absence. Always ran a hard line but it limited my placement abilities.

Yes. You install the app with a set up process that has a QR code. Use the new cam to scan the QR which mates it to your account and then follow the WiFi setup.

I have an inside cam that is scheduled to go down (turn off) during daytime hours and only on at night. It works flawlessly and reconnects at the scheduled time.

My only visibility into uptime is when I check the cams or check events. The cams are always up when I check them. My motion events get everything (packages, cars, etc). The sound events just aren't reliable. I either get wind (nothing) or miss loud noises that I think should be events.

Oh, and only the events go to the cloud. These are 12 second clips. The clips then allow you to go back on the local SD card and capture more footage. You can store that footage to your phone as a vid or take out the SD card and read it.

[brutal]

On the Wyze firmware, I haven't experienced any issues and they're generally pretty healthy on the WiFi.

I run all my cams on a separate WiFi/VLAN that can only reach my server (blue iris) and egress to the "cloud" if they need to. If you're looking for something that's restartable if they lock up, you can always plug on into a smart plug and remote power cycle it. Assuming the smart stuff is up. Most all will be "on" after any power failure, but something to check.

[Grant H.]

Another option: Ubiquiti G3 Cameras and NVR.

https://store.ui.com/products/unifi-video-camera-g3
https://store.ui.com/collections/surveillance/products/unifi-video-nvr

Since I work in wireless tech, I don't want my cameras on wifi. It's not that it can't/doesn't work, I just prefer the speed/reliability/security of wired.

My camera network (NVR, POE Switch, and Cameras) are their own set of hardware with their own battery backup, so even with a power outage, they are still up and recording. Remote access may/may not be still up depending on internet access being up.

For remote access to your cameras, their setup is pretty simple. Create a free UBNT account, link the NVR to it, and download the app to your IOS/Android device, and off you go.

[brutal]

Another option: Ubiquiti G3 Cameras and NVR.

https://store.ui.com/products/unifi-video-camera-g3
https://store.ui.com/collections/surveillance/products/unifi-video-nvr

Since I work in wireless tech, I don't want my cameras on wifi. It's not that it can't/doesn't work, I just prefer the speed/reliability/security of wired.

My camera network (NVR, POE Switch, and Cameras) are their own set of hardware with their own battery backup, so even with a power outage, they are still up and recording. Remote access may/may not be still up depending on internet access being up.

For remote access to your cameras, their setup is pretty simple. Create a free UBNT account, link the NVR to it, and download the app to your IOS/Android device, and off you go.

Good option. Love my UBNT stuff. Maybe some day I'll be up for pulling wires and buying a POe switch. When I can no longer suffer the bandwidth utilization (now thinking about adding a 3rd AP). For now, the WiFi cams stay isolated.