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Anyone have any real experience with this? Especially wives making big decisions, out of character. Need some info for a friend. Already asked a friend in the business and it sounds like it happens somewhat regularly.
Not an expert, but it sounds like a manic episode could be happening. Anything Bi-polar diagnosis ever?
Fentonite
02-18-2019, 17:24
Not an expert, but it sounds like a manic episode could be happening. Anything Bi-polar diagnosis ever?
Same thing came to mind.
Women are a little unbalanced to begin with. Add in some meds and who knows how they?ll act.
JohnnyDrama
02-18-2019, 17:56
Women are a little unbalanced to begin with. Add in some meds and who knows how they?ll act.
Having just gone through some shit myself, how old is said wife? Furthermore, how does this figure into the hot/crazy matrix?
Seriously, I hope nothing gets out of control, and if there are problems, they can be resolved with a solution other than what I just experienced.
Scanker19
02-18-2019, 18:12
Welbutrin.
I’ve seen it many times with some women. And men too. Exactly how you’re saying just doing weird things, nothing dangerous but just out of character.
Or.... a philosophical question would be, could it be IN character for them? I’m not a doctor I just pretend to be one at bars to get laid.
Well part of the thing with SSRIs is that they give you more energy, not like RedBull, but they make you more willing to be active. The warning about increased chance of suicide at the beginning of a treatment is for people that have a desire to kill themselves, but just can't work up the motivation. SSRIs provide that motivation and bad stuff can happen. So this could be simple enough as something she's been wanting to do but wasn't motivated, and now she is. Please ask real experts in addition to us though.
Scanker19
02-18-2019, 18:23
Well part of the thing with SSRIs is that they give you more energy, not like RedBull, but they make you more willing to be active. The warning about increased chance of suicide at the beginning of a treatment is for people that have a desire to kill themselves, but just can't work up the motivation. SSRIs provide that motivation and bad stuff can happen. So this could be simple enough as something she's been wanting to do but wasn't motivated, and now she is. Please ask real experts in addition to us though.
That’s the point I was trying to make, OP. Lately I’ve been questioning if the “out of character” things people do is that or maybe They are just showing us who they were the whole time.
Edit: OP does this involve a Postpartum situation?
I 'll pass it along. I do know a few professionals. Known some since before they could drive.
BushMasterBoy
02-18-2019, 19:09
I have experienced that 9 out 10 doctors are undereducated. I was poisoned by beryllium and 9 out of 10 couldn't spell it. Make sure that what you think is psychiatric, isn't a physical disease. On the other hand, maybe all she needs is a nice vacation to a warm place.
I need a vacation to a warm place, where a doctor will actually prescribe what I need. VA & military doctors are idiots.
gnihcraes
02-18-2019, 19:13
Welbutrin.
They believe that crap helped my stroke to happen.
Anti-Seizure meds make ya crazy too. Each person is different and how they react or not to any of these medications. Trial and error basically.
Great-Kazoo
02-18-2019, 19:21
I have experienced that 9 out 10 doctors are undereducated. I was poisoned by beryllium and 9 out of 10 couldn't spell it. Make sure that what you think is psychiatric, isn't a physical disease. On the other hand, maybe all she needs is a nice vacation to a warm place.
I need a vacation to a warm place, where a doctor will actually prescribe what I need. VA & military doctors are idiots.
The V.A isn't any worse or better (in general) than any other "medical professional" The only way to get an honest 2nd opinion is go out of network. If not all the second opinion is doing is fellating the previous dr.'s opinion
They believe that crap helped my stroke to happen.
Anti-Seizure meds make ya crazy too. Each person is different and how they react or not to any of these medications. Trial and error basically.
Unfortunately a Dr's or other treating's suggestion is to write a script for something more addictive than what they wrote you for before that .
Not_A_Llama
02-18-2019, 19:25
Ambien is a little more famous for weird behavior (https://www.reddit.com/r/ambien/)
BushMasterBoy
02-18-2019, 19:52
The VA is worse! They surgically lobotomised 4500 veterans after World War 2. I don't think the military lobotomised any patients.
I hate doctors that just throw pills at patients without doing all the necessary tests. Big pharma is a big scam.
As for the OP's significant others Dx(diagnosis), I would make sure a Vitamin D test is measured. Low vitamin D can cause depressive symptoms. A 25-hydroxy vitamin D blood test. A level of 20 nanograms/milliliter to 50 ng/mL is considered adequate for healthy people. A level less than 12 ng/mL indicates vitamin D deficiency.
In fact I am going to take Vitamin D gel cap right now...
If anyone is interested in a first hand account of mental illness and seeking treatment, "Noonday Demon" is a good read. Better in audio book, the author narrates.
Mental illness and psychotropics make for an unpredictable frontier.
Anyone have any real experience with this? Especially wives making big decisions, out of character. Need some info for a friend. Already asked a friend in the business and it sounds like it happens somewhat regularly.
It's certainly a real thing. That said there are a lot of meds and a lot of different conditions. It's tough to make a blanket statement.
Anti depressants by design alter the way your brain works. It's been known to cause people to change how they behave in other ways, too, like rationalizing in a way they historically would not.
Ambien is a little more famous for weird behavior (https://www.reddit.com/r/ambien/)
Ain't that the truth. My wife would be up in the middle of the night having conversations with people who weren't there
clodhopper
02-19-2019, 09:25
Anti depressants by design alter the way your brain works. It's been known to cause people to change how they behave in other ways, too, like rationalizing in a way they historically would not.
This. And... they affect people differently. There is the generally expected outcome that is the result for maybe more than half of users, but many people get a different effect. Just because a drug is supposed to one thing, keep a close eye when starting a script as it might not work that way for you or yours. Went through a raft of different meds for my daughter when she was little (genetic mental issues from bio-dad) and the variety of results was amazing. I will tell you Ritalin can be pretty scary with some kids. There is no reason to believe that adults will be any different on mood drugs.
Mucking about with brain chemistry is no joke. A good friend of mine was married to a woman with mild depression. She was a bright, motivated, successful real estate agent, as well as a great mom. Her shrink prescribed an SSRI, and the change was abrupt and alarming. Within a matter of weeks, she had lost her job, started drinking and taking other recreational drugs, had taken up with one of her former boyfriends, and pretty much abdicated any responsibility for the care of their daughter. This was after ONE course of the SSRI. They divorced within 6 months, and he got sole custody based on her growing arrest record.
Little Dutch
02-19-2019, 11:03
Mucking about with brain chemistry is no joke. A good friend of mine was married to a woman with mild depression. She was a bright, motivated, successful real estate agent, as well as a great mom. Her shrink prescribed an SSRI, and the change was abrupt and alarming. Within a matter of weeks, she had lost her job, started drinking and taking other recreational drugs, had taken up with one of her former boyfriends, and pretty much abdicated any responsibility for the care of their daughter. This was after ONE course of the SSRI. They divorced within 6 months, and he got sole custody based on her growing arrest record.
Damn. I know they are no joke, but wrecking (maybe subjective, but there it is...) your life on one dose of meds is scary stuff.
Well, one course, not one dose. But still just as scary.
Mucking about with brain chemistry is no joke. A good friend of mine was married to a woman with mild depression. She was a bright, motivated, successful real estate agent, as well as a great mom. Her shrink prescribed an SSRI, and the change was abrupt and alarming. Within a matter of weeks, she had lost her job, started drinking and taking other recreational drugs, had taken up with one of her former boyfriends, and pretty much abdicated any responsibility for the care of their daughter. This was after ONE course of the SSRI. They divorced within 6 months, and he got sole custody based on her growing arrest record.
Holy shit. Granted, I know nothing about this, I'd wonder if that could be grounds for a law suit against the doctor and/or drug manufacturer... but I don't know how any of that would work... It just seems, at face value, that if something completely wrecked ones life in such maniacal fashion, the patient affected by it should have some kind of recourse. Unfathomable.
Nothing I ever want to mess with.
Before we had kids, the wife and I agreed we would never put our kids on any mind/behavior altering drugs unless it was life/death.
I know someone that has an appointment with a doctor to put kid on ADD drugs because he's not doing well in math. Zero effort has been made to tutor son in math. Very depressing.
I know someone that has an appointment with a doctor to put kid on ADD drugs because he's not doing well in math. Zero effort has been made to tutor son in math. Very depressing.
Very sad. :(
That child will have his mind modified for the rest of his life and maybe just needed a tutor like you said, or needs to learn mental discipline (this is a thing and I still struggle with it).
Anyone have any real experience with this? Especially wives making big decisions, out of character. Need some info for a friend. Already asked a friend in the business and it sounds like it happens somewhat regularly.
I am aware of changes in shopping, gambling, and other addictions that can be attributed to anti-depressants. It is not uncommon.
Has she recently been around cats for the first time in her life?
Wolfshoon
02-19-2019, 15:50
Had a friend on Ambien for sleep aid after surgery. He was fine using it for the first month until his wife woke him up from deep REM sleep. He remembers nothing until 2 days later waking up in douglas county jail, apparently he ripped out the wrought iron stairway handrail (Super strength), drove off with his wife hanging off the hood, got pulled over for DWI, released improperly after wrong diagnosis, arrested again on way home for DUI, DUI proved negative so they charged him with marijuana instead, also proved negative, so charged with kidnapping (wife on hood of car) even though she stated he didnt kidnap her the police were determined to charge it anyway, DA kept saying she had battered wife syndrome and didnt know what she was talking about (which eventually led to a separate legal court battle she won) . First arresting deputy put on leave for improper release on what should have been a medical hold. Big big mess, lots of lawyer time and lots of incidences of Ambien causing all sorts of weird behavior in different ppl came up in court. Wound up with a year's probation and an expunged record after all was said and done. Been normal since and hasn't touched Ambien, just out $30k+ in legal fees. Had to give up his weapons to a holding service for the year he was under probation (didnt even know there were businesses like that)
BushMasterBoy
02-19-2019, 17:04
Has she recently been around cats for the first time in her life?
This! I have a horrible disease from a cat! Most people are not affected.
Aloha_Shooter
02-20-2019, 13:33
I know someone that has an appointment with a doctor to put kid on ADD drugs because he's not doing well in math. Zero effort has been made to tutor son in math. Very depressing.
That's insane. My nephew wasn't doing well in math either when he was in grade school but turned out he had a mild form of dyslexia that affected his number perception. When given the same tests verbally rather than in written form, he excelled. After the diagnosis and change in curriculum, he graduated from an IB program with something like a 3.8 GPA and is currently studying bioengineering.
I've seen some things that have stemmed from SSRIs. It's very concerning.
Not_A_Llama
02-20-2019, 21:14
Has she recently been around cats for the first time in her life?
Going for the Toxoplasma angle?
Going for the Toxoplasma angle?
Just something I was aware of. Might be worth discussing.
Going for the Toxoplasma angle?
That is such a wacky disease. Especially the incubation, and effects on the brain.
BushMasterBoy
02-20-2019, 22:47
That is such a wacky disease. Especially the incubation, and effects on the brain.
The pain is unreal. I was already crazy. Anybody got any pyrimethamine ? I have accidently almost burned the house down twice. Is this just the .gov idea of training for the space alien war? (bastards)
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