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Five weeks until deadline. Also haven't seen a discussion on the $50 preference point fee for moose, goat and sheep on top of the tag increases. Will have to think a little harder whether I'm willing to pay a few hundred dollars more for the privilege to hunt these 3 species.
Shooter45
02-25-2019, 19:35
After the politics of this state and the way the DOW is running things, I'm done hunting here and moving soon.
bkincaid
02-25-2019, 20:58
Sucks to have to pay the additional fees, but gotta pay if I want to play.
Just the point fees coupled with app fees, both R and NR combined, will generate >$10m this year over last year. You know, gotta help out those Parks folks........
eta- this will be year 32 for me trying to get a bull moose tag, I'm in it till the end. [BooHoo]
What part of a bull moose tastes better than on a cow moose?
Sucks to have to pay the additional fees, but gotta pay if I want to play.
Just the point fees coupled with app fees, both R and NR combined, will generate >$10m this year over last year. You know, gotta help out those Parks folks........
eta- this will be year 32 for me trying to get a bull moose tag, I'm in it till the end. [BooHoo]
After 32 points, how much does another point increase your odds of a successful draw?
bkincaid
02-25-2019, 22:30
After 32 points, how much does another point increase your odds of a successful draw?
There isn't a way to have 32 points, used to be lottery. I have 3 points and 18 weighted points in this current process. The first year I put in was 1988.
Another weighted point theoretically helps because your random generated number is inverted and converted and divided by weighted points plus 1. You want the lowest number at the end of the process per draw unit.
bkincaid
02-25-2019, 22:32
What part of a bull moose tastes better than on a cow moose?
Goals are goals and a bull has always been mine.
GilpinGuy
02-25-2019, 23:17
What's with needing to buy a "qualifying license" like small game or spring turkey in order to apply for big game? Just another way to steal more money from us peasants or am I missing something?
There isn't a way to have 32 points, used to be lottery. I have 3 points and 18 weighted points in this current process. The first year I put in was 1988.
Another weighted point theoretically helps because your random generated number is inverted and converted and divided by weighted points plus 1. You want the lowest number at the end of the process per draw unit.
DOW's version of common core? My head hurts
ACE2GOOD
02-26-2019, 12:48
The $50 tag thing I think is their new answer to everyone applying for every tag after making it only $3 or whatever it was to apply last year. If a ton of people still apply then it is even more money coming in for them. The requirement for small game or other tag in addition to Big Game I think is something other states do so it is another angle for them to grab at more money. I imagine these type of things will change year to year until they figure out the "new way" to do things since they went away with the old system that worked perfectly fine for a long time in my opinion.
Is there publicly available information with a break down of how all the money is used?
kidicarus13
02-26-2019, 14:28
Another weighted point theoretically helps because your random generated number is inverted and converted and divided by weighted points plus 1. You want the lowest number at the end of the process per draw unit.
Makes perfect sense. There must be some genius hunters in the woods of Colorado. I bet Arkansas' point system is not as complicated.
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BladesNBarrels
02-26-2019, 17:30
Makes perfect sense. There must be some genius hunters in the woods of Colorado. I bet Arkansas' point system is not as complicated.
Yep, the Arkansas director of hunting points at a group and says, "You all go huntin' today"
Makes perfect sense. There must be some genius hunters in the woods of Colorado. I bet Arkansas' point system is not as complicated.
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Ahh. Now I get it. Thank you
What's with needing to buy a "qualifying license" like small game or spring turkey in order to apply for big game? Just another way to steal more money from us peasants or am I missing something?
And it appears a fishing license alone, is not a "quailifying" license.
Little Dutch
02-26-2019, 21:37
I’ve hunted at least one season a year for the last 20 years. I’m still not sure I want to participate in the CPW money grab this year.
GilpinGuy
02-26-2019, 21:56
I imagine these type of things will change year to year until they figure out the "new way" to do things since they went away with the old system that worked perfectly fine for a long time in my opinion.
Yeah, the way that worked fine for decades and ran in the black. Leave it to (mainly leftist) government to fuck shit up without fail. Asshats.
Got my picks in today.. missed the deadline last year because I was so busy with work and other crap.
Now the wait to see what I get.
Thanks for the reminder. Got my preference points put in.
2 week warning, clocks ticking
whitewalrus
03-19-2019, 10:49
Will be putting in this weekend for the big game draw. Hope the negative point creep that seemed to be for turkey is for big game too.
Trigger Time 23
03-27-2019, 10:22
Deadline is at 8:00 PM, not midnight like in years past.
You've got 23 hours to put in. Thanks to jslo for reminding us every year.
Good luck everyone.
Glad I saw this.
PANIC
[panic]
hunterhawk
04-01-2019, 22:11
Ha, finally got mine done today.. i really feel like i have a hold on this whole procrastination thing..
whitewalrus
04-04-2019, 19:23
Now the waiting begins. Wish they would release the results sooner now that everything is done electronic.
Is there a reason your Hunter Safety number can't be a part of your profile? It's not a number I have committed to memory and have no reason to.
Found out Wyoming Game and Fish is trying to change season dates and unit rules on the unit I drew an elk tag for this year. Glad they wait until after I have the tag in hand to change the game.
Is there a reason your Hunter Safety number can't be a part of your profile? It's not a number I have committed to memory and have no reason to.
Found out Wyoming Game and Fish is trying to change season dates and unit rules on the unit I drew an elk tag for this year. Glad they wait until after I have the tag in hand to change the game.
If you present your Hunter Safety card at a CPW office, they will tie it to your name & CID number so you won't have to write it again, or even carry it with you when hunting. In the future your licenses will indicate "verified", re your safety card number.
What's up with the "qualifying license" bullshit? I bought several of the qualifying licenses anyway, and before I saw the requirement, but we definitely lost a hunter this year because of it.
I applied for cow elk, buck deer, buck pronghorn and cow moose. I'll pick up OTC bull elk and bear licenses when they go on sale Aug. 8th.
I procrastinated applying until the last day. I'm not very happy with the new rules which require the purchase of a "qualifying license" that I didn't need or want to buy, and almost a bad, the CPW website didn't make it easy to buy qualifying licenses by failing to provide quick links. In the past the Habitat Stamp was the required qualifier. Seniors don't have to purchase the Habitat Stamp and since there are more of us every day they had to stick us somehow. I understand their budget problems but I think that approach is very wrong.
Just as bad is charging $50 to acquire a preference point for moose, sheep and goat tags when you don't draw. I get the point creep problem but if I had had to pay $50 for every point toward my 2018 bull moose license, after 19 years of applying it would have cost $950 just for the gamble of living long enough to be awarded a license. Another friend waited 32 years and he took a moose at age 79. It would be fairer to simply raise all license fees to the necessary level to make up for the previous years inflation when they didn't raise license costs in a timely fashion.
With the $50 charge just to get a PP, I decided to give up on the Bighorn Sheep draw as it's unlikely I'll live long enough to draw and hunt them. I can do it now but imagine climbing high elevation peaks in my late eighties to mid nineties with a pack and rifle. Even Irving will be too old to help me pack sheep meat. ;)
I applied for all three, but I agree. I'm wondering if I'll have greater chance at drawing this year. I have one family member that has been boycotting hunting in Colorado since before I even started hunting.
I applied for all three, but I agree. I'm wondering if I'll have greater chance at drawing this year. I have one family member that has been boycotting hunting in Colorado since before I even started hunting.
You might have a greater chance of drawing. There's also the new program that opens 20% of tags in certain GMUs that require lots of points, to go to applicants with at least 5 points. I entered one of those for elk.
As far as boycotting hunting, that's a loser's game. IMO, people who do that don't really want to hunt. It's too hard or too much bother.
I haven't missed a big game season in 36 years, and wish I had started earlier. I love and live in the woods. I'll hunt to the very end if I can.
I agree on the too hard part, at least with respect to if you feel that 's too onerous to hunt in Colorado as a resident, I don't see you hunting in any other state. I know my family member doesn't.
Lost my nephew, from Ohio, for an elk hunt. An extra 85 to 155 for a "qualifying" license he wouldn't use sent him looking elsewhere.
That's what I was trying to explain to my wife. Some people who live here only hunt one thing. Most people who come here only hunt one thing, they aren't going to want to waste the money on a license they won't use.
Little Dutch
04-05-2019, 07:49
Not everyone I know can even afford the $100+ price point just to successfully draw a single big game tag. It pushed them out totally.
I decided to pay to play again this year, but for a single species. The price hike actually resulted in less money flowing from me to the CPW. I may be in the minority on that.
I paid for points for sheep and mountain goat, but I think I'll stop putting in for those.
I just started applying for moose and sheep tags last year. Unless they change their $50 point fees, I'll take my 1 point to my grave with me.
Firehaus
04-05-2019, 20:30
Qualifying license is definitely wrong, but I always get one anyway so I can hunt grouse while I elk hunt.
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I just got a Turkey license which I wanted anyway.. A small game license is a no brainer anyway, last year while I was Elk hunting on my otc tag I could have shot 5 grouse within 10 feet of me if I wanted. Many ways you could take advanntage of the additional license. In a way the additional license culls out some of the out of staters that people were complaining about last year whenthey removed the down payment part of the draw so I would guess that a number of out of staters on the fence simply wont apply which should be a plus for us.
I thought there was a set percentage of non-resident licenses awarded? They didn't raise non-resident tag prices and, if true, the "qualifying" license requirement is just a backdoor grab at more money. If they need more in the budget, set the tag prices accordingly, don't force someone to buy something they don't want or need. I believe, the majority of the budget is made up of out-of-state fees, and if non-residents say FU be prepared for us to make up the difference in years to come.
Little Dutch
04-06-2019, 08:54
I thought there was a set percentage of non-resident licenses awarded? They didn't raise non-resident tag prices and, if true, the "qualifying" license requirement is just a backdoor grab at more money. If they need more in the budget, set the tag prices accordingly, don't force someone to buy something they don't want or need. I believe, the majority of the budget is made up of out-of-state fees, and if non-residents say FU be prepared for us to make up the difference in years to come.
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hunterhawk
04-06-2019, 17:55
I'll be honest i wasn't a huge fan of buying my dads out of state qualifying license... but im ok with out of state people find other places to hunt too :-) i have seen more and more people in the spots i hunt every year.. gets a bit crowded.
USMC88-93
04-06-2019, 20:58
I just put in for a preference point this year.
whitewalrus
04-09-2019, 10:20
I just got a Turkey license which I wanted anyway.. A small game license is a no brainer anyway, last year while I was Elk hunting on my otc tag I could have shot 5 grouse within 10 feet of me if I wanted. Many ways you could take advanntage of the additional license. In a way the additional license culls out some of the out of staters that people were complaining about last year whenthey removed the down payment part of the draw so I would guess that a number of out of staters on the fence simply wont apply which should be a plus for us.
Grouse are very good eating...would make the camp food that much better :)
bkincaid
05-03-2019, 20:25
Got my desert sheep and mountain goat unsuccessful emails today.
Same, which is what I was expecting.
No sheep tag this year. Still have more rejections to come yet.
whitewalrus
05-13-2019, 20:45
Never have put in for sheep or goat
Never have put in for sheep or goat
I don't care about record books, my only hunting goal is to take every big game species in Colorado. I have taken elk, mule deer, antelope, and last year I took my mountain goat. So that leaves white tail, bear, moose, Rocky mountain bighorn, and desert bighorn.
No mountain lion?
I forgot about lion, need one of those as well.
Results for elk, deer, pronghorn, bear, and moose drop June 3-7th. Thanks again to Jslo who reminds me just in time each year to apply.
whitewalrus
06-04-2019, 09:59
Looks like I get another weighted moose point. Have a $50 charge to my CC. Still no emails from them though.
Pronghorn pref point, but not showing actual status (e.g., if 2nd-4th choice). No change to deer or elk.
I also got a Pronghorn point but no CC charge or change in draw status.
Looks like I drew pronghorn, as I knew I would. Showing something for elk, but I still have zero points which is confusing to me because I was expecting to only get a point this year since I decided to start putting in for bull. No change in deer, looks like I didn't draw moose, which is a bummer.
I applied for mule/whitetail and an elk prefference point.. nothing showing up yet. My bank account has been charged $39.75 though.
2x 39.75 charges on mine. Hrm.
Deer and antelope are $38 so I’m guessing I got a deer tag, now the question is which one?
Whoa, after I finally figured out which card I used for this, I've got two charges for $39.75 and one for $50.00. Now I'm super curious to see what's going on. I realistically only expected to draw for antelope this year since I changed up what I was going for.
No change in my CPW account or bank account
yankeefan98121
06-05-2019, 07:24
Looks like I was charged for my and my sons' Elk and Deer tags. Also got charged for Moose preference point. CPW's site only has the Antelope and Moose preference points updated. Nothing for which hunt codes we drew for Deer or Elk yet.
Oh, I think that $50 might be for the moose pref point, right?
yankeefan98121
06-05-2019, 10:27
Oh, I think that $50 might be for the moose pref point, right?
I believe that is correct
I gained an elk pref point. sigh. Gonna be OTC this year, if anything.
Got deer 1st choice but points still there.
yankeefan98121
06-05-2019, 12:04
CPW just updated. Both my son and I got our Elk and Deer tags. They were second choice so we got pref points too
So I managed to draw a buck tag for my second choice in unit 33. It usually takes me three years to draw a buck in my muzzleloader season, so two years in a row feels weird.
Looks like I drew second option on elk as well. I was expecting to draw nothing but antelope and have to do OTC bear and turkey during my main muzzleloader season. Looks like I've drawn for buck antelope, buck mule deer, and cow elk. Sweet. Maybe I'll land a few and make up for a total bust last year.
I got emails after noon on my draws.
Drew my last Deer option, a whitetail only archery hunt, same tag I hunted last year as a left over tag that I purchased a week or two before thanksgiving. At least its a long hunt consisting of October 1-25, November 6-30 and December 15-31.. Will have to try to actually do some scouting ahead of time instead of going in blind this year.
The only whitetail I saw on my hunt last year was this:
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PP deer and got my elk tag. Now to get back in shape for the 7 mile hike back in to camp.
PP deer and got my elk tag. Now to get back in shape for the 7 mile hike back in to camp.
I put on 7 (total) the day one in our party harvested. Packing that out was a bitch. First trip out was a hind quarter on my shoulder. Then we got the packs.
I put on 7 (total) the day one in our party harvested. Packing that out was a bitch. First trip out was a hind quarter on my shoulder. Then we got the packs.
Please don't ever do that again without a pack. A shoulder maybe, but you'll get to be a broken down old guy with a bad back all too soon.
As expected I drew cow elk and buck pronghorn but am disappointed I didn't get a deer license. I knew my first choice deer would get me a PP, but nothing for 2nd, 3rd and 4th choices. Also PP's for elk and cow moose. I'll pick up bull elk and bear licenses when they go on sale in August.
In the combined seasons we go armed with multiple licenses and high hopes of filling them all but that seldom happens. Fortunately it's rare that I go home without at least one big game animal in any year. I didn't see an elk during season last fall so I dearly want one this year.
Please don't ever do that again without a pack. A shoulder maybe, but you'll get to be a broken down old guy with a bad back all too soon.
LOL, too late.
Actually, my back's still pretty good but the rest of me is already broken.
whitewalrus
06-08-2019, 09:49
PP deer and got my elk tag. Now to get back in shape for the 7 mile hike back in to camp.
Wow you go in far. I have always been too worried about getting anything back out if I got anything that far in. But I typically hunt with just another person.
yankeefan98121
07-06-2019, 09:30
Anyone receive your physical tag(s) yet? My son and I are still waiting on ours....
Got mine yesterday. Now I just need to turn them back in. lol.
Antelope showed up yesterday.
I received my buck pronghorn license on Friday July 5, and my cow elk tag today July 8. My mouth is watering.....
Buck deer showed up for me today.
yankeefan98121
07-08-2019, 20:14
We got our deer tags today
It's official. Elk tag came Tuesday
whitewalrus
07-11-2019, 17:41
Got mine yesterday. Now I just need to turn them back in. lol.
Could come back just for the hunt :)
yankeefan98121
07-11-2019, 21:36
we got our Elk tags today as well, mouth is watering too....but we'll see what Really happens in the field.
jgregoir
07-18-2019, 11:34
After 7 years of applying and collecting points I finally drew my antelope buck tag for unit 87 (pawnee). I was wondering if anyone has hunted it before and has any tips. I plan to scout, etc in September but wondering if anyone was familiar with that area and wouldn't mind me asking them a few questions? Looking forward to breaking out the 1980's Winchester Mod 70 featherweight in .257 Bob for the first time in a long time. Thanks in advance!
After 7 years of applying and collecting points I finally drew my antelope buck tag for unit 87 (pawnee). I was wondering if anyone has hunted it before and has any tips. I plan to scout, etc in September but wondering if anyone was familiar with that area and wouldn't mind me asking them a few questions? Looking forward to breaking out the 1980's Winchester Mod 70 featherweight in .257 Bob for the first time in a long time. Thanks in advance!
Well, even within the Pawnee Grasslands there is a significant amount of private land so get OnXMaps or another app that will be able to tell you if you are on private or public. Huntscore (https://huntscore.com/hunts/co/pronghorn/7fffa8df-d014-4e6e-8907-bd5cbae87f57) doesn't rate that GMU all that high (pretty low on public access) and honestly all of the times I have gone up there to shoot (I go pretty deep in to the grasslands to some areas where you won't see another person the entire weekend) I haven't seen many antelope. There are a number of water troughs for cattle out there though so I would get on Google Earth and find all them that you can and then scout those areas.
Well, even within the Pawnee Grasslands there is a significant amount of private land so get OnXMaps or another app that will be able to tell you if you are on private or public. Huntscore (https://huntscore.com/hunts/co/pronghorn/7fffa8df-d014-4e6e-8907-bd5cbae87f57) doesn't rate that GMU all that high (pretty low on public access) and honestly all of the times I have gone up there to shoot (I go pretty deep in to the grasslands to some areas where you won't see another person the entire weekend) I haven't seen many antelope. There are a number of water troughs for cattle out there though so I would get on Google Earth and find all them that you can and then scout those areas.
My experience hunting in Pawnee is that where you usually go to shoot you never see another person, then on opening day you spot orange in every direction possible, especially in areas with limited public access.
hunterhawk
07-18-2019, 22:45
Start knocking and talking.. and when you get permission from someone make sure they tell the workers and other family members.. i had a guy chasing me in his truck and ruining my hunt because he thought i was tresspassing haha.. at the time i was not laughing and was freaked out some crazy dude was trying to kill me.. he still didn't believe me until i followed him back to the house.. good times.
^^^That is really good advice. If someone was hunting on my land, but no one told me, there'd be an issue for sure.
Here is something I saw from BHA about increasing access to State Land Trust areas.
https://www.backcountryhunters.org/want_access_to_500_000_more_acres_of_colorado_stat e_trust_land_during_hunting_season_it_might_just_h appen
Turned my tags back in the other day. Sigh.
yankeefan98121
07-20-2019, 10:52
Well, even within the Pawnee Grasslands there is a significant amount of private land so get OnXMaps or another app that will be able to tell you if you are on private or public. Huntscore (https://huntscore.com/hunts/co/pronghorn/7fffa8df-d014-4e6e-8907-bd5cbae87f57) doesn't rate that GMU all that high (pretty low on public access) and honestly all of the times I have gone up there to shoot (I go pretty deep in to the grasslands to some areas where you won't see another person the entire weekend) I haven't seen many antelope. There are a number of water troughs for cattle out there though so I would get on Google Earth and find all them that you can and then scout those areas.
+1 for onXHunt. great app
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