View Full Version : Why did Colorado go blue? This will answer all your questions.
The video is 45 min or so but well worth your time.
https://youtu.be/A6i7k07TpMk
Zundfolge
04-06-2019, 10:01
Nice to see someone put together a concise video version of The Blueprint (https://www.amazon.com/Blueprint-Adam-Schrager/dp/1936218003).
It's a great vid!!!
Leaves out the role of local media and the "independent" voter who wouldn't vote for a GOPer because he said something embarrassing according to media, so they voted for a Dim and gave away our state. Independents have determined every CO political outcome in my lifetime.
I think this explains why the recalls were successful. Independents bought Dims on media perception and then had buyer's remorse. Rinse/repeat.
Does touch on that pot connection so many of us here have pointed out.
Hopefully people are starting to see that the interests of the folks in Colorado are not being represented at the capitol and ask whose interests are being represented.
Aloha_Shooter
04-06-2019, 11:27
I know I'm spitting into the wind but would really prefer people used the historically correct color associations of Red = Democrat (Commies), Blue = GOP. Those were the traditional color associations used going back to the 1876 or so. The media changed the colors without any explanation in 1984. I suspect Republicans went along with it because in the 1980s, red was viewed as a "strong" color but it's also psychologically associated with being alarming and threatening while blue is calming and speaks to loyalty.
Colorado didn't "go blue", it veered socialist/anti-Western/anti-tradition/anti-Christian/pro-totalitarian, all in accordance with a predefined plan drafted by the Socialists and others who wanted to tear down traditional American society.
theGinsue
04-06-2019, 11:33
Wonderful video, but HOW do we get the word out - not just in CO, but across the nation?
How can we get the (few) conservative billionaires to intelligently levy some of their money in our cause to restore freedoms to the People?
Conservatives continue to remain divided over minor issues without focus on the big picture whereas the liberals have overcome petty differences with their eyes set on the end goal - and it's winning for them big time.
What strategy can we implement to unite conservatives, to mass our resources and to ignite our passion to others who desire maintaining their freedom over their own destiny?
I have lots of questions but very few answers.
theGinsue
04-06-2019, 11:38
I know I'm spitting into the wind but would really prefer people used the historically correct color associations of Red = Democrat (Commies), Blue = GOP. Those were the traditional color associations used going back to the 1876 or so. The media changed the colors without any explanation in 1984. I suspect Republicans went along with it because in the 1980s, red was viewed as a "strong" color but it's also psychologically associated with being alarming and threatening while blue is calming and speaks to loyalty.
Colorado didn't "go blue", it veered socialist/anti-Western/anti-tradition/anti-Christian/pro-totalitarian, all in accordance with a predefined plan drafted by the Socialists and others who wanted to tear down traditional American society.
I noticed this as well and wondered why I hadn't heard any discussion on the topic before.
The blue/liberal versus red/conservative association was a well executed maneuver which plays exceedingly well into the subconscious of citizens. Blue is a calming color and red is well associated with danger. Whether individuals realize it or not, this change of color association is manipulating them into their decisions. Just another cog in the play book to fundamentally change people perceptions.
BushMasterBoy
04-06-2019, 11:59
If you want a successful political campaign, read, study and implement "The Art of War". If you don't follow the principles outlined by Sun Tzu, your campaign will surely fail. We really should have an "Art of War" section in the forum. COMSEC, OPSEC,OPSTEMPO, ad infinitum...
You should add Machiavelli's The Prince to that curriculum.
All the strategy in the world won't save us unless we are willing to organize and fund a consistent effort against Libs. The Gang of Four had time, money, and opportunity.
This has always been the weakness... Conservatives would rather pay higher taxes after losing then freely donate time/money to the cause of winning. Libs take our tax dollars and use them against us. We continue to pay Lib corps for goods/services and work as employees in Lib run corps. They now have the advantage in the private and public economies.
We voluntarily capitalize our enemy in the private economy while he decapitalizes us using the public economy.
This includes investing in our kids too so they can come into power rather than inherent loss... (And there's that public school conversation again.)
I dont know.. the party has done more than its share of shooting itself in the foot in this state with its choices as to candidates to push.
I dont know.. the party has done more than its share of shooting itself in the foot in this state with its choises as to candidates to push.
I'd say the Colorado Republican party has been infiltrated and brought down from the inside. This is more than just a conspiracy at this point. The libs are playing a new level of dirty pool.
I know, I was thinking the same thing. The only thing I could come up with is to pass this video along - educate the people (not the idiots as the other side claims). Keep passing it along. This video has been out there for several years. I can't believe it took me so long to stumble across it. Better pull a copy before Youtubes social patrol pulls it. You can see the same thing happening in TX, VA, NC, SC, FL. All places that I would think are hardcore conservative. I'm not very optimistic about bringing Colorado back but these other Conservative states better start getting their act together or they will all be smoking dope under the rainbow flag in a state where nobody works for a living - IT'S ALL FREE! We can toss the US Constitution out the window.... Rant off - have a good day. I like the "Art of War" strategy.
BushMasterBoy
04-06-2019, 14:59
"Machiavelli believes that a prince's main focus should be on perfecting the art of war. He believes that by taking this profession an aspiring prince will be able to acquire a state, and will be able to maintain what he has gained. He claims that "being disarmed makes you despised." He believes that the only way to ensure loyalty from one's soldiers is to understand military matters. The two activities Machiavelli recommends practicing to prepare for war are physical and mental. Physically, he believes rulers should learn the landscape of their territories. Mentally, he encouraged the study of past military events. He also warns against idleness."
Quoted from Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince
These loser Progressive transplants filling our state amazes me. At our monthly gun range clean up today we got stuck with a 40 yr old dim-whit from Illinois. As we all talked about shooting, silly red flag law, and guns he spoke up. Told us Red Flag law was better for us all, even one shooting involving kids was too many, and the need to register assault rifles. He was serious. He joined our range for ?hunting? and to teach his kids gun safety. You should have seen the group clear away from him. We let him go off on his own to pick up trash. Just what every gun range in Colorado needs...
See if you can chase Pat Stryker out of Colorado! That thing lives in Fort Collins somewhere.
The Colorado GOP is either a bunch of fucktards, or they are being paid by the enemy
"Machiavelli believes that a prince's main focus should be on perfecting the art of war. He believes that by taking this profession an aspiring prince will be able to acquire a state, and will be able to maintain what he has gained. He claims that "being disarmed makes you despised." He believes that the only way to ensure loyalty from one's soldiers is to understand military matters. The two activities Machiavelli recommends practicing to prepare for war are physical and mental. Physically, he believes rulers should learn the landscape of their territories. Mentally, he encouraged the study of past military events. He also warns against idleness."
Quoted from Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince
So much more to it than just warfare, like controlling the people by the purse and through fear.
There's no word to get out. There's no video to see.
Government keeps expanding because they are spending into debt. They love Governing, they love spending, and they leave us with debt.
Even the bill of rights, which were meant as protection of the people, from the government, are being overwhelmed.
-John
Bailey Guns
04-06-2019, 19:22
The republican party, and more so many republican voters, have elevated making perfect the enemy of the good to an art form.
I hate progressives. But they know how to rally behind their party and their party's candidate.
Conservatives believe in the process and traditional American values. They'd rather lose than compromise their values and what they believe to be right.
Progressives believe in the outcome. The end justifies the means. And that's a large reason they've become successful. Make promises...worry about keeping them, or not, later on. They'll cross that bridge when the time comes. And when they have to break their promises they blame someone else (conservatives) and simply make more promises. And the ignorant continue to believe them.
It's hard to fight that with values and principles.
Great-Kazoo
04-06-2019, 19:38
They'll cross that bridge when the time comes.
It's hard to fight that with values and principles.
Nothing better defines that than , Ted Kennedy.
A D will keep voting for a D, even with a confirmed body count.
OtterbatHellcat
04-06-2019, 23:43
Wonderful video, but HOW do we get the word out - not just in CO, but across the nation?
How can we get the (few) conservative billionaires to intelligently levy some of their money in our cause to restore freedoms to the People?
Conservatives continue to remain divided over minor issues without focus on the big picture whereas the liberals have overcome petty differences with their eyes set on the end goal - and it's winning for them big time.
What strategy can we implement to unite conservatives, to mass our resources and to ignite our passion to others who desire maintaining their freedom over their own destiny?
I have lots of questions but very few answers.
Great post...this is where I'm at in my thinking.
About the state GOP failing, using me as an example...
Say rather than a modestly successfully small biz dude, I was a major employer in the state, had political aspirations, and knew how to unfuck Colorado. I decide to run for governor.
And I run against 90/10 media unfavorable/favorable because I'm not a Dem. "Journalists" find every little thing I've done "wrong." Interview every person with an axe to grind, verify none of it. Then they invoke identity politics because I'm a white guy and I have money. And then they find out I go to church and start asking me about certain scriptures knowing I will either have to pick between rejecting them or alienating 66.6% of the voters.
Independents say: Well, I can't vote for him, he hates the precious gays.
Reality: No governor can do a thing about gays, good or bad
Independents say: He opposes women's reproductive rights and is unelectable!!!
Reality: No governor can dramatically change abortion, it's all up the courts
I capture a third of the vote because about of third of this state isn't stupid and won't fall for these tricks. But I still lose. My legacy is all the dirt the media dug up and threw in my, and my family's face, and the obscene mischaracterizations.
Know anyone who wants to have this kind of experience?
This is why I think our candidates suck. The only person willing to wreck his life like this probably has a shitty life or is a narcissist. And there's no shortage of "true Conservatives" who would stab that person in the back. "I know Skip very well, but his positions are just too extreme for Colorado... *I'm a good dirt person please pet me*."
OtterbatHellcat
04-07-2019, 22:37
Skip 2020...
I'm in. Who else is onboard?
Bailey Guns
04-07-2019, 23:55
Not me. He's anti-abortion and hates gays. Probably kicks puppies, too.
I read bad things about him on the Internet. They must be true.
There is way too much reality in this post for you to be successful in politics. Sorry Skip. Enjoy life in obscurity. At least the people who know you will think well of you. It really is more rewarding than being one of them. Politicians.
About the state GOP failing, using me as an example...
Say rather than a modestly successfully small biz dude, I was a major employer in the state, had political aspirations, and knew how to unfuck Colorado. I decide to run for governor.
And I run against 90/10 media unfavorable/favorable because I'm not a Dem. "Journalists" find every little thing I've done "wrong." Interview every person with an axe to grind, verify none of it. Then they invoke identity politics because I'm a white guy and I have money. And then they find out I go to church and start asking me about certain scriptures knowing I will either have to pick between rejecting them or alienating 66.6% of the voters.
Independents say: Well, I can't vote for him, he hates the precious gays.
Reality: No governor can do a thing about gays, good or bad
Independents say: He opposes women's reproductive rights and is unelectable!!!
Reality: No governor can dramatically change abortion, it's all up the courts
I capture a third of the vote because about of third of this state isn't stupid and won't fall for these tricks. But I still lose. My legacy is all the dirt the media dug up and threw in my, and my family's face, and the obscene mischaracterizations.
Know anyone who wants to have this kind of experience?
This is why I think our candidates suck. The only person willing to wreck his life like this probably has a shitty life or is a narcissist. And there's no shortage of "true Conservatives" who would stab that person in the back. "I know Skip very well, but his positions are just too extreme for Colorado... *I'm a good dirt person please pet me*."
Skip 2020...
I'm in. Who else is onboard?
You may want to wait on that endorsement until Denver7 interviews my ex-girlfriend.
There is way too much reality in this post for you to be successful in politics. Sorry Skip. [B]Enjoy life in obscurity. At least the people who know you will think well of you. It really is more rewarding than being one of them. Politicians.
YES!
Not me. He's anti-abortion and hates gays. Probably kicks puppies, too.
THIS!
Aloha_Shooter
04-08-2019, 10:33
Bailey's right about self-styled conservatives and non-socialists being our own worst enemy by letting 58 different versions of "perfect" oppose "good enough" while we let the worst of anti-American socialism into office. Yes, the state GOP has its issues but we're certainly not helping ourselves by letting the likes of Michael Bennet get elected (repeatedly) to the Senate, Hickenlooper and Polis to the governor's mansion, etc. A lot of people like to be "moderate" so it also doesn't help us to have traditional middle-of-the-road values be labeled "conservative" or even "alt right". That just moves centrists reflexively to the left.
Reagan won with a "Big Tent" philosophy -- he welcomed pro-gay financial conservatives along with big government social conservatives and everything in between. For that matter, so did W -- and while I disagreed with W's expansive government and a number of other items, he was a helluva lot better than getting Al Gore or John Kerry.
Time to find some non old white guy conservatives to run... take away a little bit of the identity politics advantage the dorks have
Being 'unaffiliated' does not make one a 'moderate'. I are one of them. I'm very conservative and libertarian (the ideology, not the 420 focused party) in my ideas about the role of government.
The Republican party in Colorado is a bunch of morons and they don't speak for me.
Besides, the idiots that changed the primary system in this state made party registrations totally unimportant.
Bailey Guns
04-08-2019, 21:32
Time to find some non old white guy conservatives to run... take away a little bit of the identity politics advantage the dorks have
Not sure if you're referring specifically to Colorado or just the GOP in general, but plenty of "non old white guy" candidates run at various levels. Look at the 2016 republican presidential candidates: Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal. Almost 30% minorities and/or women. Not to mention some of the others that were white but far from old. That's not really the problem in my opinion. A candidate can't force voters to vote for them.
Skip hit the nail on the head when he mentioned the bias in the media. That is an almost insurmountable problem for conservatives in many states. The bias is obvious and it's overwhelming. The media is basically the propaganda arm of the democrat party. And when a democrat says something the media takes it as gospel. Just like when Reid accused Romney of not paying taxes. It was a blatant lie but the media dutifully ran with it. When questioned about the accusation later Reid's response was, "It worked, didn't it?" And that was the end of it. And that's just an isolated example. Look what Kavanaugh just went thru.
The hatred of anything and anyone conservative by the media is a huge problem.
And we haven't even mentioned the brainwashing that goes on in schools and colleges/universities against any ideology that's not Marxist.
Great-Kazoo
04-08-2019, 22:16
Not sure if you're referring specifically to Colorado or just the GOP in general, but plenty of "non old white guy" candidates run at various levels. Look at the 2016 republican presidential candidates: Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal. Almost 30% minorities and/or women. Not to mention some of the others that were white but far from old. That's not really the problem in my opinion. A candidate can't force voters to vote for them.
Skip hit the nail on the head when he mentioned the bias in the media. That is an almost insurmountable problem for conservatives in many states. The bias is obvious and it's overwhelming. The media is basically the propaganda arm of the democrat party. And when a democrat says something the media takes it as gospel. Just like when Reid accused Romney of not paying taxes. It was a blatant lie but the media dutifully ran with it. When questioned about the accusation later Reid's response was, "It worked, didn't it?" And that was the end of it. And that's just an isolated example. Look what Kavanaugh just went thru.
The hatred of anything and anyone conservative by the media is a huge problem.
And we haven't even mentioned the brainwashing that goes on in schools and colleges/universities against any ideology that's not Marxist.
The GOP fielded more "diversity' last presidential election cycle, than the D'd have in decades.
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