View Full Version : Looks like no more Shell gas for me...
OldFogey
04-12-2019, 16:41
https://kdvr.com/2019/04/08/gas-station-clerk-fired-for-shooting-armed-robber-problem-solvers-investigation/
So, it appears the company had a policy against its employees having firearms on company property? And you're upset because the guy was fired for violating company policy?
BushMasterBoy
04-12-2019, 17:06
eff the company...
It's not shell. Its suncor.
Also this is standard in almost any industry as a means of self preservation. Tis the overly litigious society we live in
You'll forget about this fake outage and be filling up at a shell by the end of the month.
DenverGP
04-12-2019, 18:39
It's not shell. Its suncor.
This. Suncor is the one who operates all the shell stations in many states. Suncor has a license to sell Shell and Exxon gas.
You'll forget about this fake outage and be filling up at a shell by the end of the month.
Not me... I preferred Shell gas, but wife has been telling me to fill up at Costco or King soopers, since we get discounts at both. This will be the excuse I need. At this point, I think there is very little difference in gas brands, so my very old brand loyalty was pretty stupid.
Bailey Guns
04-12-2019, 18:40
I'd get fired if I got caught carrying at work, too.
I was once fired for carrying at work, without actually having carried at work.
kidicarus13
04-12-2019, 18:51
Shell... for those who like overpaying for gas.
kidicarus13
04-12-2019, 18:52
I was once fired for carrying at work, without actually having carried at work.Perception is reality in today's Colorado.
Grant H.
04-12-2019, 18:55
A significant majority of the industrial world has the same policy. This includes EVERY SINGLE O/G industry partner...
If you were to try and avoid every company that has a "no gunz" policy, you would lead a very sad and bland life...
I understand where the annoyance at these rules comes from, but the reality is that trying to "vote" with your dollars does nothing but inconvenience you.
OtterbatHellcat
04-12-2019, 18:56
I'd get fired if I got caught carrying at work, too.
Yep.
In fact just today I decided that I will no longer carry to work and leave it in my car during the workday. It pisses me off.
JohnnyEgo
04-12-2019, 18:57
I'd get fired if I got caught carrying at work, too.
Same here. I don't like it, but they've made me very aware of the policy and I still take their checks. And I will still be buying gas at Shell when my choices are otherwise limited.
Grant H.
04-12-2019, 19:02
I will also throw in here... (Focused on Shell since this thread focuses on how evil shell is...)
Kroger buys their gas from lots of companies, Shell included...
Costco is in the same boat. They specifically call out Shell as one source...
From the Costco List:
Shell
Chevron/Texaco/Anadarko (sale just announced today)
Exxon/Mobile
Marathon
BP/Amoco/Arco
Want to take a guess as to what one of the common safety rules for EVERY SINGLE company mentioned above is?
That's right.
No guns on premise (not even in personal vehicles - specific to being a contractor/employee/service worker of any kind), no CCW, no nothing... No guns. 100% guaranteed firing offense if you are caught...
I'd get fired if I got caught carrying at work, too.
I'm one of few who can't because its allowed per state law unless they install screening and screen everyone entering.
Was even in a meeting with polis and his security detail in the room with my ccw in pocket, with one in the chamber last week.
OtterbatHellcat
04-12-2019, 19:06
No guns on premise (not even in personal vehicles - specific to being a contractor/employee/service worker of any kind), no CCW, no nothing... No guns. 100% guaranteed firing offense if you are caught...
I have succumbed reluctantly. Even if in a locked (safe) inside your vehicle, you're fired if they search it. Ain't right, but it's real.
Grant H.
04-12-2019, 19:10
No guns on premise (not even in personal vehicles - specific to being a contractor/employee/service worker of any kind), no CCW, no nothing... No guns. 100% guaranteed firing offense if you are caught...
I have succumbed reluctantly. Even if in a locked (safe) inside your vehicle, you're fired if they search it. Ain't right, but it's real.
Yep. It sucks, but it's part of the deal when you take their money...
I'd guess this very site is hosted on Amazon servers. Amazon has the same policy.... Just sayin'
SideShow Bob
04-12-2019, 19:44
I'm one of few who can't because its allowed per state law unless they install screening and screen everyone entering.
Was even in a meeting with polis and his security detail in the room with my ccw in pocket, with one in the chamber last week.
Me too, actually twice in the last few weeks........
SideShow Bob
04-12-2019, 19:45
Don?t know what I did & ended up quoting myself....... [sorry]
KevDen2005
04-12-2019, 19:48
I fill up at King Soopers. I took a fraud report once at a local gas station where the state inspectors came by. Someone had put a machine into the gas pump, collecting data from anyone who used the pump with a credit card. I asked them what the safest gas station to get gas was and both said, King Soopers.
While I'm annoyed by companies that don't allow lawful CCW by their employees, it's still their right as a company and as employees we are required to follow the rules of our employers.
People also have the right to break the rules all they want. Just no crying if you have to get another job in a hurry.
Well.... he's alive, safe, and in the clear.
And he was fired from a gas station job.... I'm thinking he can land another gas station gig without too much trouble.
Buy Shell - it pays my dad's pension
Although Brand Gas stations are owned by individual franchisee, not too many likes corporate shell for other reasons as well.
I believe they (Koninklijke Nederlandse) still bs around at Nigeria with Nigerian govt?
Buy Shell - it pays my dad's pension
Good enough reason for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYdvxBxHX2U
No more Shell gas for me.
No more Shell gas for me.
Did you boycott Kotex while you're at it?
Did you boycott Kotex while you're at it?
Yep. Fuck those pussies.
bellavite1
04-12-2019, 20:27
I am required to carry at work...[Coffee]
Yep. Fuck those pussies.
Nailed it! 100 points.
DenverGP
04-12-2019, 21:42
Kroger buys their gas from lots of companies, Shell included...
Costco is in the same boat. They specifically call out Shell as one source...
From the Costco List:
Shell
Again, shell had nothing to do with this, so I don't mind Shell gas... Suncor has a license to sell Shell gas, and Suncor operates all the Shell stations in Colorado. It was suncor's decision to fire the employee.
Yes, almost all places probably have a similar policy, but they made this decision about this particular case, and so I'll avoid them (and I let them know, not that they give a damn).
Costco sells Top Tier gas and you can usually get premium at mid-grade prices.
This. Suncor is the one who operates all the shell stations in many states. Suncor has a license to sell Shell and Exxon gas.
Not me... I preferred Shell gas, but wife has been telling me to fill up at Costco or King soopers, since we get discounts at both. This will be the excuse I need. At this point, I think there is very little difference in gas brands, so my very old brand loyalty was pretty stupid.
Well Costco is anti-gun too so...
Grant H.
04-12-2019, 22:37
Again, shell had nothing to do with this, so I don't mind Shell gas... Suncor has a license to sell Shell gas, and Suncor operates all the Shell stations in Colorado. It was suncor's decision to fire the employee.
Yes, almost all places probably have a similar policy, but they made this decision about this particular case, and so I'll avoid them (and I let them know, not that they give a damn).
Not even close to all... You might want to do a little more digging on your statements.
Published numbers are sub 100 Phillips 66's and Shell stations combined, statewide. There are ~240 Shell stations alone statewide...
They have contracts to provide fuel to many other Phillips and Shell stations statewide, but they don't own or operate them...
I don't actually care. I just find your pick and choose stance on financial support of anti-gun companies a little fickle...
Enjoy the feeling of moral superiority!
Grant H.
04-12-2019, 22:38
Yep. Fuck those pussies.
[ROFL1]
Yep.
In fact just today I decided that I will no longer carry to work and leave it in my car during the workday. It pisses me off.
That's what I do
OtterbatHellcat
04-13-2019, 06:05
When I get out of this shithole state, I'll be looking to get employed by folks that either encourage, or at least don't mind if I'm carrying.
UncleDave
04-13-2019, 06:58
Just so everyone knows. The only refineries around are both owned by Suncor, a Canadian oil company. All gas in Colorado, at least front range comes from that refinery. The only difference in the different brands is the additive blends which are proprietary to the end oil company. You cannot avoid supporting Suncor and still drive a vehicle with an internal combustion vehicle, not gonna happen. They also own franchise stations all over the country. While the policy sucks, it is common with all large companies especially oil companies because they are high security operations, at least at the refineries you have. To go through very stringent security. They also don’t want to be sued by some scumbag armed robber because he was shot on their property and they have deep pockets.
Grant H.
04-13-2019, 07:20
They actually only supply 35% of the gas/diesel in CO.
One of my friends FIL's used to run refineries in PA, and when he saw the one in Commerce City made a comment to the effect of "I didn't know they made them that small"...
Having been to the big ones on the coasts, it is kind of impressive that they are at the production rates they are...
UncleDave
04-13-2019, 07:43
You are right it is a small refinery, and statewide it probably works out to 35%. They mostly supplying the front range as is I said, and western Nebraska. I used to do a lot of business with their mid stream sub companies when I was in the business
KevDen2005
04-13-2019, 07:48
My brother just took a job in Springfield, MO. He was on the phone with me going through a drive through and he was like, "Dude, the guy in the window was open carrying."
Bailey Guns
04-13-2019, 07:59
Costco sells Top Tier gas and you can usually get premium at mid-grade prices.
Nice...
Tier 1 Gasoline - for Vehicle Operators
Just so everyone knows. The only refineries around are both owned by Suncor, a Canadian oil company. All gas in Colorado, at least front range comes from that refinery. The only difference in the different brands is the additive blends which are proprietary to the end oil company. You cannot avoid supporting Suncor and still drive a vehicle with an internal combustion vehicle, not gonna happen. They also own franchise stations all over the country. While the policy sucks, it is common with all large companies especially oil companies because they are high security operations, at least at the refineries you have. To go through very stringent security. They also don?t want to be sued by some scumbag armed robber because he was shot on their property and they have deep pockets.
Does Sinclair not sell fuel made at the Sinclair wy refinery?
KevDen2005
04-13-2019, 08:34
Nice...
Tier 1 Gasoline - for Vehicle Operators
Nice
UncleDave
04-13-2019, 08:40
I did not deal much with them but my understanding is that the ship some to northern Colorado, but most goes.to Utah, Nevada, and Idaho. It is also a small facility, around 85k barrels if memory serves me.
OldFogey
04-13-2019, 08:54
You'll forget about this fake outage and be filling up at a shell by the end of the month.
Not unless they supply Costco[Beer]
DenverGP
04-13-2019, 09:20
The store that fired the guy (Arapahoe and University) is owned/operated by Suncor... Shell didn't make the decision to fire the guy, SunCor did. So even if costco gets it's gas from Shell, I'm still not supporting SunCor.
Nice...
Tier 1 Gasoline - for Vehicle Operators
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