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Thought I would post this up. I was a bit surprised there were not more locations to sign.
https://coloradansvote.org/upcoming-events
Little Dutch
04-13-2019, 15:22
This wasn't very well advertised for some reason. This is the first I'd heard of this one. I missed today's, but will have a chance on Thursday, during working hours, at Magnum.
BladesNBarrels
04-13-2019, 15:31
Hopefully to allow the citizens of Colorado to vote against
SB19-042
National Popular Vote
Concerning adoption of an agreement among the states to elect the president of the United States by national popular vote.
Polis and Dems signed up on the popular vote compact that when enough states sign on the electoral college is no more. Meaning blue coastal states will from then on decide the US President.
One of many articles
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/politics/gov-jared-polis-signs-national-popular-vote-bill-into-law
Yet another reason to recall Polis.
Thanks. Sounds like something I don't want.
Zundfolge
04-13-2019, 17:16
When Trump wins the popular vote in 2020 (he's more popular now than he was in 2016), but doesn't win the vote in Colorado, yet still ends up with Colorado's electoral votes anyway I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh. And then we'll see Democrats repeal this shit so fast it'll make your head spin.
While I didn't read the entire bill effects in depth, IIRC it already permits them to cancel it "under limited circumstances", such as when the wrong person gets the popular vote. Of course, for a different "official" reason then that, but yeah, it sounds like they fully intend to have the ability to choose when to cast electorates based on when the "correct" candidate is either Colorado's choice or the popular vote, in essence, entirely circumventing voters - whether nationally popular or not. Gotta love politics.
Thanks. Sounds like something I don't want.
Colorado dems voted and Polis already signed to join the Popular Vote Pactforegoing the electoral college. This sounds like some kind of recall or initiative to change the law back to the electoral college system for Colorado.
I signed it yesterday at the PPFC (http://ppfc.wildapricot.org/) meeting. It puts a question on the ballot if the popular vote should be kept.
It's confusing to read the langage of the petition, because it sounds as if you're signing something to support the popular vote.
So it's not to repeal it per se, it's to keep it. Of couse, a "No" vote would mean to repeal it.
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Aloha_Shooter
04-15-2019, 09:26
4 hours at the ass end of Colorado Springs during a work day but 2 2-hour sessions in Black Hawk? Who planned these times?
When we did the REcallMORSE campaign, we planned on getting copies of the petitions to gun stores and gun clubs and planned out our signature collection campaign before our clock started with the Secretary of State. Getting people on the outskirts of Territory Days was pretty fruitful -- they need similar public events to get this going. Getting Democrats out to Boulder and Denver counties with the argument about Trump's increasing popularity potentially garnering Colorado electoral votes can also help. We actually got a lot of Dems to sign to recall Morse because of how he pushed to tax marijuana.
I've signed it, there's a LOT of these NPV petitions out there, all over the state. And a LOT of people getting in line to sign petitions to recall Polesmoker when his 1st 6 months are up in July. I believe Galindo too.
There's a large and growing group on Facebook to recall Polis, that's the best source of info for this stuff.
avandelay
04-15-2019, 14:48
I've signed it, there's a LOT of these NPV petitions out there, all over the state. And a LOT of people getting in line to sign petitions to recall Polesmoker when his 1st 6 months are up in July. I believe Galindo too.
There's a large and growing group on Facebook to recall Polis, that's the best source of info for this stuff.
Yes, the recall for Galindo in 50 around Greeley is already in process and she has already thrown the race/LGBT cards out there. Sad defense for her votes. Supposedly recallcolorado.org has two others identified for recall, but I'm not sure where they are with that. The Polis recall effort will be monumental since it will require 630k valid signatures and there are people out there already stating they'll intentionally fill the signature sheets with invalid signatures. At any rate, 630k signatures will be a hard slog in what is essentially 8 weeks. The main Polis recall page is a bit of a general discussion goat rope, but the county pages are a bit more sane.
ETA - Here is a current article covering the active initiatives - https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2019/04/16/second-citizen-referendum-approved-by-secretary-of-state/
Hopefully to allow the citizens of Colorado to vote against
SB19-042
National Popular Vote
Concerning adoption of an agreement among the states to elect the president of the United States by national popular vote.
Yeah, I was misled about it before. I thought it was about the direct popular vote of Colorado's citizens for Colorado's votes, not to give away the delegates to whoever is in the lead nationally. That's fucked up.
Zundfolge
05-30-2019, 16:39
Looks like the Democrat governor of Nevada vetoed the stupid National Popular Vote bill that had passed their house/senate.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/30/nevada-gov-steve-sisolak-vetoes-national-popular-vote-bill/
OMG a sensible Democrat? Hell has truly frozen over!
Circuits
05-30-2019, 17:13
When Trump wins the popular vote in 2020 (he's more popular now than he was in 2016), but doesn't win the vote in Colorado, yet still ends up with Colorado's electoral votes anyway I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh. And then we'll see Democrats repeal this shit so fast it'll make your head spin.
Only takes effect when states equalling a majority of the electoral vote have adopted it, so it will likely not be in effect in 2020.
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OMG a sensible Democrat? Hell has truly frozen over!
Just thinking about this a bit...
If a group of states entered into a private compact that directly challenged the Constitution, Federal authority, and threatened "Constitutional crisis" over our elections that could result in violent conflict, one would have to think carefully about which side he places his name, Democrat or Republican.
Many civil wars in other countries have started over confusion regarding who has lawful authority (elected) in matters authority greatly determine how and who can live. Happening now in Venezuela.
Rucker61
05-31-2019, 09:59
Only takes effect when states equalling a majority of the electoral vote have adopted it, so it will likely not be in effect in 2020.
Everyone seems to miss this part. I don't see we'll ever see enough states signing on.
If you don't like the electoral college, follow the process and change the Constitution. This country has gone from being a nation of laws to lunacy.
Zundfolge
06-01-2019, 11:02
Everyone seems to miss this part. I don't see we'll ever see enough states signing on.
You're right. I didn't catch that part when I originally posted about it. Still, pointing out to liberals that "You do realize your Electoral Votes would have gone for Trump if this National Popular Vote compact nonsense goes through" when he wins the national popular vote but loses the popular vote of Colorado will be a useful tool for repealing this nonsense.
With so much of California being rabidly Democratic, Trump would probably still lose the popular vote. Just because one populous state goes really far off the deep-end, going with the popular vote nationally would mean the rest of the country doesn't matter. It would take a big city imposing its will on the rest of the state to a national level.
Backing this concept in any form is playing with fire.
avandelay
06-01-2019, 20:28
With so much of California being rabidly Democratic, Trump would probably still lose the popular vote. Just because one populous state goes really far off the deep-end, going with the popular vote nationally would mean the rest of the country doesn't matter. It would take a big city imposing its will on the rest of the state to a national level.
Backing this concept in any form is playing with fire.
With all of the 'vote harvesting' going on it will be tough. CA turned three seats via 'vote harvesting' and I'm afraid our current overlords are setting Colorado up for the same scheme.
Zundfolge
06-02-2019, 15:10
With so much of California being rabidly Democratic, Trump would probably still lose the popular vote.
Keep in mind that there are a lot of California (and other deep red state) Republicans that either don't vote because it doesn't matter, or vote to serve some other strategy (A bunch of California Republicans where pushing a scheme to vote for Jill Stein because if the green party got a large enough percentage of the popular vote they would be eligible for federal dollars and thus a bigger thorn in the side of the Democrats down the road).
So if we magically flipped a switch to kill the EC, you can't assume that everyone would still have voted exactly the same as they did and that the totals would be exactly the same.
OneGuy67
06-02-2019, 16:26
I was at the Tanner gun show today and there were people there with the petitions. One lady was outside and approached me. I had already signed the petition at Centennial Gun Club, so she chatted with me for a minute. She stated she was surprised at how many people going to the gun show were against putting the NPV up for a state wide vote and expressed frustration over it.
I was at the Tanner gun show today and there were people there with the petitions. One lady was outside and approached me. I had already signed the petition at Centennial Gun Club, so she chatted with me for a minute. She stated she was surprised at how many people going to the gun show were against putting the NPV up for a state wide vote and expressed frustration over it.
Probably becaue they're afraid that the same idiots who voted the morons into office who thought NPV would be a good idea and pushed it through would vote it into the state constitution.
I was at the Tanner gun show today and there were people there with the petitions. One lady was outside and approached me. I had already signed the petition at Centennial Gun Club, so she chatted with me for a minute. She stated she was surprised at how many people going to the gun show were against putting the NPV up for a state wide vote and expressed frustration over it.
I was there too today, she told me the same thing-I also signed at CGC. Yesterday they were collecting signatures for the recall against Tom Sullivan. Unfortunately I was not eligible to sign that one.
eddiememphis
06-08-2019, 20:25
https://www.krdo.com/news/top-stories/100k-sign-on-to-put-national-popular-vote-compact-on-ballot/1084507452
100,000 has been reached. Only need 24,634 more although they are trying to get 200k.
https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2019/06/08/national-popular-vote-referendum-signature-gathering-effort-nears-completion/
I'm fully expecting the new (D) SoS to do something along the lines of "Wrong shade of blue ink, 150,000 signatures are invalid" or some crap.
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Great-Kazoo
06-09-2019, 08:30
I'm fully expecting the new (D) SoS to do something along the lines of "Wrong shade of blue ink, 150,000 signatures are invalid" or some crap.
O2
Or a shade that triggers nano aggressive tendencies
whitewalrus
06-09-2019, 09:56
Probably becaue they're afraid that the same idiots who voted the morons into office who thought NPV would be a good idea and pushed it through would vote it into the state constitution.
This is the problem with putting it to the people. This state has turned for the worst and this is a strong possibility.
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