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What an absolute freakin' tool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiPQbEny_Bc&feature=youtu.be
whitewalrus
05-12-2019, 11:40
Sounds like its not the first time they have done this either. And to admit the only reason they are doing it is to see how people respond.
Zundfolge
05-12-2019, 12:05
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/73209102/im-helping.jpg
Just a matter of time that fools like this force the ATF to reclassify braces and your "pistol" suddenly becomes and illegal SBR.
Aloha_Shooter
05-12-2019, 12:33
Couldn't get past 2:20 ... jerkoffs like this just make it harder on everyone. Intentionally provoking people FTL.
thedave1164
05-12-2019, 12:41
I am not against open carry, but that guy is a foolish idiot.
Just a matter of time that fools like this force the ATF to reclassify braces and your "pistol" suddenly becomes and illegal SBR.
I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.
I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.
ChickNorris
05-12-2019, 13:22
It's a forum. Welcome~
welcome~
welcome~
I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.
I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.
Ugh.... Here. We. Go. [facepalm]
I don't recall anyone being banned for having a different opinion on any topic. Matter of fact if you have been viewing the forum from afar you already know that there is constant disagreement on the forum. All depends on your approach. Referring to members as fools may not be the best approach, but that's your choice. Now I'm not sure how the mods would respond to anyone asking to be banned.
Btw, welcome to the forum.
Haha. Anyone who starts their presence somewhere expecting to be banned never last long. Same thing every time.
BPTactical
05-12-2019, 13:52
What an asshole.
All too often "Open Carry Advocates" do more harm to our Rights than good.
Walking through a public area packing like Wyatt Earp is a foolish endeavor and you get what you deserve.
"Dont start no shit, wont be no shit." comes to mind.
Reminds me of a former member we had who was an adamant "Open Carry" type. He got all wrapped around the axle because Arvada PD contacted him when he was at King Soopers. He was OCing and some soccer mommy called PD because of a man with a gun.
Don't bring it upon yourself and if you insist, be mature enough to handle what cometh.
If your up hiking in the hills, OC is appropriate. In an urban area, dumbass thing to do.
Your not "Educating" anybody on the 2nd Amendment walking around looking like a complete fucktard OCing.
With Rights come Responsibilities.
Be a responsible steward of our Rights.
thedave1164
05-12-2019, 13:58
I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.
I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.
Welcome to the forum, you won’t find many fudds here, and a lot of people here have done a lot more to defend the second amendment than you might imagine.
Causing the public to panic and tying up police resources to make a point is pretty much pointless, he educated no one on second amendment rights, but he did manage to provide an example of whacko gun owners to those that would normally be pretty neutral.
We have 2 people that open carry at my church every Sunday, no one has made a deal out of it, but I guarantee you that if either walked in with an AR pistol, there would be some concerned folks.
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We have 2 people that open carry at my church every Sunday, no one has made a deal out of it, but I guarantee you that if either walked in with an AR pistol, there would be some concerned folks.
https://imgur.com/vCoM1BN.jpg
Bailey Guns
05-12-2019, 15:21
I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.
I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.
Well, if you continue with that attitude, I'm hopeful this was your last post, too.
I happen to agree with everything you said up until the point you started calling those with a differing opinion fools and fudds. You have no idea who does what to support the 2A at various levels on this forum unless you're out there with them when they do it. And then you pretend to know exactly how everyone's going to respond is just the epitome of arrogance and ignorance. You obviously don't know this group very well. If you've been lurking at all you sure as hell haven't been paying attention. There is at least one very pro 2A state representative that occasionally posts here. There are people that have spent countless hours at the state house lobbying for 2A causes. There are people here that have spent countless hours getting signatures for petitions and other causes that support the 2A.
So what have you done besides come here and piss people off?
Next time they can do 1st amendment audit on a juvenile in front of the court house.
"Fu-- you! Knock your bit-- ass out right now!"
See how well it goes. :)
BushMasterBoy
05-12-2019, 15:43
It doesn't piss me off. The more members we have, the better this forum will be. I try to stick to the facts about firearms and the people that use them. All the emotional drama, I try to shy away from.
How is that any different than the LGBT crowd shoving their gross lifestyle down our throats until it became normal?
I love seeing people open carry and the looks they get from irrational snowflakes. Much like I still give the grossed out look to the LGBT freaks. I also love seeing the look of my lib neighbors when I carry uncased ARs to the truck, cause concealed carry of rifles is technically illegal.
Aloha_Shooter
05-12-2019, 18:07
Haha. Anyone who starts their presence somewhere expecting to be banned never last long. Same thing every time.
True but it's not because of any ban hammer ... they just get bored because we won't react the way they predict.
ChickNorris
05-12-2019, 18:45
Back on topic...
Absolute needless provocation. Those officers were not responding with intent to harass the videographer. They were responding to a concern, called in by a citizen about a man in a park with a non holstered firearm. I have respect & empathy for those officers & applaud them for the restraint & courtesy they afforded that man from the go.
It's a forum. Welcome~
welcome~
welcome~
I see what you did there.
If the police didn't investigate concerns from the citizenry, there wouldn't be much need for the police.
buffalobo
05-12-2019, 21:32
I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.
I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.
Welcome, join the fray, is my typical reply to first posts. Not sure if it should be for yours.
Glad to see your participation, disappointed you didn't pay attention to posting rules and guide lines. Personal attacks/name calling will make you a short timer.
Bring your best to the debate/discussion/argument, leave the BS elsewhere.
Except the officer who was holding the pistol, others were like oh,,,one of those situation again.....
What an asshole.
All too often "Open Carry Advocates" do more harm to our Rights than good.
Walking through a public area packing like Wyatt Earp is a foolish endeavor and you get what you deserve.
"Dont start no shit, wont be no shit." comes to mind.
Reminds me of a former member we had who was an adamant "Open Carry" type. He got all wrapped around the axle because Arvada PD contacted him when he was at King Soopers. He was OCing and some soccer mommy called PD because of a man with a gun.
Don't bring it upon yourself and if you insist, be mature enough to handle what cometh.
If your up hiking in the hills, OC is appropriate. In an urban area, dumbass thing to do.
Your not "Educating" anybody on the 2nd Amendment walking around looking like a complete fucktard OCing.
With Rights come Responsibilities.
Be a responsible steward of our Rights.
100% THIS. [Beer]
wctriumph
05-13-2019, 13:00
I would not do what he did in the way that he did. It was certainly, in my opinion, over the top. There are better ways to "educate" people.
The bit where he gets all spergy about how the people who called the cops should have been smart enough to know the difference between an AR15 and an AR-based pistol was cringey.
newracer
05-13-2019, 14:34
I wonder what would happen if he walked through the same park open carrying a typical looking pistol.
Zundfolge
05-13-2019, 14:57
I would not do what he did in the way that he did. It was certainly, in my opinion, over the top. There are better ways to "educate" people.
Are you talking about the guy that shot the video or JHW87?
Lots of things are rights, not all rights exercised in all ways are intelligent.
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whitewalrus
05-13-2019, 16:03
I wonder what would happen if he walked through the same park open carrying a typical looking pistol.
Thought he mentioned that he had an FNX as the cops were walking him back to the truck. But it may have been the cop talking to him. Wasn't paying all that much attention to it at that point.
Haha. Anyone who starts their presence somewhere expecting to be banned never last long. Same thing every time.
Doesn't look like they have logged back in since the first post. [welcome]
I look at it like I do the 1st amendment. You CAN say it but should you.
Given the number of people in any group, there is bound to be a percentage that behave badly. I find this to be reasonably universal. This thread could be used as an example along with the video in the OP.
Be safe.
Hey, who you callin' 'reasonable'? [Sarcasm2]
I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.
I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.
Yep, without a doubt this was yet another example of things poorly done.
The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.
I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.
This, too, was poorly done. Were you raised by wolves, or simply incapable of behaving with social grace?
Given the number of people in any group, there is bound to be a percentage that behave badly. I find this to be reasonably universal. This thread could be used as an example along with the video in the OP.
Be safe.
That's the main reason I don't like bands with more than four members, especially if one of them is a keyboardist.
I'm looking at you K-pop groups...
Zundfolge
05-13-2019, 19:08
That's the main reason I don't like bands with more than four members, especially if one of them is a keyboardist.
Hey now, you don't speak ill of my precious Dream Theater.
Rucker61
05-13-2019, 20:58
That's the main reason I don't like bands with more than four members, especially if one of them is a keyboardist.
Rick Wakeman was the only normal bloke in Yes.
That's the main reason I don't like bands with more than four members, especially if one of them is a keyboardist.
I'm looking at you K-pop groups...
Hey now.. see if I give you any tickets... geesh.... lol
What an asshole.
All too often "Open Carry Advocates" do more harm to our Rights than good.
Walking through a public area packing like Wyatt Earp is a foolish endeavor and you get what you deserve.
"Dont start no shit, wont be no shit." comes to mind.
Reminds me of a former member we had who was an adamant "Open Carry" type. He got all wrapped around the axle because Arvada PD contacted him when he was at King Soopers. He was OCing and some soccer mommy called PD because of a man with a gun.
Don't bring it upon yourself and if you insist, be mature enough to handle what cometh.
If your up hiking in the hills, OC is appropriate. In an urban area, dumbass thing to do.
Your not "Educating" anybody on the 2nd Amendment walking around looking like a complete fucktard OCing.
With Rights come Responsibilities.
Be a responsible steward of our Rights.
What is the difference between this person, doing nothing illegal and following the law, exercising his rights to ensure the rights remain and say, the US Navy exercising freedom of navigation operations in waters claimed by China in the South China Sea or exercising freedom of navigation operations in the Caspian Sea?
Is the USA assholes for enforcing our rights using Military ships in areas that are claimed by other countries?
As the police. They argument is he shouldnt do it because they swarmed and came in hot. The police's over-reaction to a situation is on them not on the person who is doing nothing illegal. They even used the excuse that people are trying to kill police with rifles. Again, the over re-reaction is on them. How do they jump from someone carrying a pistol legally, to the person being a cop-killer?
If any side were the side acting unreasonably, I would say look at which side was the placing blame for their actions on the other side. That is generally a good indication which side acted incorrectly.
What is the difference between this person, doing nothing illegal and following the law, exercising his rights to ensure the rights remain and say, the US Navy exercising freedom of navigation operations in waters claimed by China in the South China Sea or exercising freedom of navigation operations in the Caspian Sea?
Is the USA assholes for enforcing our rights using Military ships in areas that are claimed by other countries?
As the police. They argument is he shouldnt do it because they swarmed and came in hot. The police's over-reaction to a situation is on them not on the person who is doing nothing illegal. They even used the excuse that people are trying to kill police with rifles. Again, the over re-reaction is on them. How do they jump from someone carrying a pistol legally, to the person being a cop-killer?
If any side were the side acting unreasonably, I would say look at which side was the placing blame for their actions on the other side. That is generally a good indication which side acted incorrectly.
So the only time Police should respond with a heightened sense of safety is if the call comes to them as man with a gun firing it at people? Regardless of legal/not legal, it is NOT normal in 99% if America to stroll through an urban area with a long gun, much as we might wish it were. People doing it think they are creating positive dialogue and social change, but guaranteed, they are in fact doing the opposite.
What the US and PRC Navies do over contested seas has almost nothing to do with this discussion, but since you want to draw parallels, if the Chinese felt threatened enough and acted in an aggressive manner, we could easily wind up at War with them. In essence a zero positive outcome.
If the Police ignore all but verified legitimate calls of ?Man with Gun?, as in someone literally killing folks, and treat other calls of man holding a rifle in a public park the same as a call of ?Man holding newspaper? how do you think that will work out?
Would YOU walk into a bank wearing a ski mask?
Stand on a street corner and scream random things at passers by?
Walk into a Police station wearing a shirt that said ?F$&? The PO-Lice??
No? Why not? Because they?re stupid things to do, Zero positive outcome events.
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So the only time Police should respond with a heightened sense of safety is if the call comes to them as man with a gun firing it at people? Regardless of legal/not legal, it is NOT normal in 99% if America to stroll through an urban area with a long gun, much as we might wish it were. People doing it think they are creating positive dialogue and social change, but guaranteed, they are in fact doing the opposite.
Is the job of Law Enforcement to investigate / prevent violations of the law or it is it to investigate abnormal people? Should police be able to stop and contact anyone for displaying abnormal behavior or should they need reasonable suspicion that a violation of the law has been committed?
What the US and PRC Navies do over contested seas has almost nothing to do with this discussion, but since you want to draw parallels, if the Chinese felt threatened enough and acted in an aggressive manner, we could easily wind up at War with them. In essence a zero positive outcome.
The Chinese do feel threatened.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-military/china-condemns-us-for-south-china-sea-freedom-of-navigation-operation-idUSKCN1MC04F
"China’s Defence Ministry said a Chinese naval ship had been sent to warn the U.S. vessel to leave.
The ministry said China has irrefutable sovereignty over the South China Sea islands and the waters around them, and the situation there is progressing well thanks to the hard work of China and countries in Southeast Asia.
“The U.S. side repeatedly sends military ships without permission into seas close to South China Seas islands, seriously threatening China’s sovereignty and security, seriously damaging Sino-U.S. military ties and seriously harming regional peace and stability,” the ministry said."
The big difference between the two situations who has more might.
If China thought they could get away with attacking the ship (think USS Pueblo) they would.
The equivalent situation is if 200 OCer descended on the park and clearly had the force advantage over the police.
A good example is the Pro- OC protests in Boulder. The police
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/04/22/gun-rights-rally-boulder/
https://www.dailycamera.com/2018/04/21/pro-gun-demonstrators-rally-in-downtown-boulder-against-assault-weapons-ban/
The police left them alone because they were armed and didnt have a huge force disparity. The police even admitted this.
"Boulder police Sgt. Alastair McNiven said that there was some “education” provided to demonstrators by police regarding the code, but no one was ticketed for an open carry violation.
“With the limited resources available, we monitored the event in order to prevent a breach of the peace,” he said."
So obviously, the "man with a gun argument in urban areas" falls flat on its face as soon as the police arent the ones with over whelming force.
It is 100% like freedom of navigation operations.
Is the job of Law Enforcement to investigate / prevent violations of the law or it is it to investigate abnormal people? Should police be able to stop and contact anyone for displaying abnormal behavior or should they need reasonable suspicion that a violation of the law has been committed?
Don't act like a weirdo and people won't treat you like a weirdo.
Is the job of Law Enforcement to investigate / prevent violations of the law or it is it to investigate abnormal people? Should police be able to stop and contact anyone for displaying abnormal behavior or should they need reasonable suspicion that a violation of the law has been committed?
Would you investigate if dispatch told you there was a guy wearing a ski mask standing in line at a bank?
Would you tell dispatch no thanks if they told you there was calls of man with gun in park?
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The equivalent situation is if 200 OCer descended on the park and clearly had the force advantage over the police.
A good example is the Pro- OC protests in Boulder. The police
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2018/04/22/gun-rights-rally-boulder/
https://www.dailycamera.com/2018/04/21/pro-gun-demonstrators-rally-in-downtown-boulder-against-assault-weapons-ban/
The police left them alone because they were armed and didnt have a huge force disparity. The police even admitted this.
"Boulder police Sgt. Alastair McNiven said that there was some ?education? provided to demonstrators by police regarding the code, but no one was ticketed for an open carry violation.
?With the limited resources available, we monitored the event in order to prevent a breach of the peace,? he said."
So obviously, the "man with a gun argument in urban areas" falls flat on its face as soon as the police arent the ones with over whelming force.
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That just seems like common sense.
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Furthermore there?s quite a bit of difference between a lawful assembly with a city/county permit and a lone knucklehead in a park conducting a ?2A audit?.
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Furthermore there?s quite a bit of difference between a lawful assembly with a city/county permit and a lone knucklehead in a park conducting a ?2A audit?.
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Did the Boulder protesters have a permit? I seriously doubt they were given a permit.
And if you have to have a permit to protest the government, is it a right or is it a privilege?
Either they are doing something illegal or they are not. A bunch of people doing something illegal doesnt make it legal because they are in a group. A single person doing something legal doesnt make it illegal because they are not in a group.
What is the difference between a group of people armed with rifles and a single person with a rifle (or in this case a pistol)?
Would you investigate if dispatch told you there was a guy wearing a ski mask standing in line at a bank?
Would you tell dispatch no thanks if they told you there was calls of man with gun in park?
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There are different levels of reaction that are warranted in different circumstances. Not every interaction required swarms of police coming in pointing guns at people. The police chose their reaction and investigation technique. That is on them.
You (we) have come to tolerate that police can do whatever they want when they are profiling based upon 2A.
How do you think it would would be portrayed if I called police because I saw a black man walking in my neighborhood at 11pm? I would be called a racist and police would not investigate. But where I live, that is rare and would be "weird".
Why are we supposed to accept this "weird" behavior, so as to not be racist, but we are not to accept someone with a firearm.
Keep in mind there are 10 enumerated rights. 2A is one of them. Strict scrutiny applies.
You (we) have come to tolerate that police can do whatever they want when they are profiling based upon 2A.
Why do you think this only has to do with 2A? We have come to tolerate that police can do whatever they want in any situation. That you would assume it is a 2A specific issue is your own personal blindspot. Blindspot is not the correct word, perhaps tunnel vision is better.
I think we can at least all agree that The Clash's Combat Rock was a great album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lfInFVPkQs
Why do you think this only has to do with 2A? We have come to tolerate that police can do whatever they want in any situation. That you would assume it is a 2A specific issue is your own personal blindspot. Blindspot is not the correct word, perhaps tunnel vision is better.
I dont have that tunnel vision.
2A audit is just the topic of the thread..
I am well aware of what you say above and agree with you.
I am going to be conducting a 5th AMENDMENT AUDIT.
Will1776
05-22-2019, 16:47
How to get open carry banned 101 lol
Zundfolge
05-22-2019, 17:32
I think we can at least all agree that The Clash's Combat Rock was a great album.
London Calling was beter.
I'm conducting a 9th Amendment audit.
So... who is conducting 25th amendment audit?
:D
Aloha_Shooter
05-23-2019, 14:06
Guy probably goes into crowded movie theaters and yells "Fire!" as part of his First Amendment audits ...
He should test those 1st amendment rights by saying something about an explosive device while going through airport screening.
Guy probably goes into crowded movie theaters and yells "Fire!" as part of his First Amendment audits ...
He should test those 1st amendment rights by saying something about an explosive device while going through airport screening.
Funny but great examples. LOL.
I think the point is to challenge unconstitutional laws like the NFA and normalize the right to bear arms in every capacity. If we continue to allow people to consider our constitutional rights a public disturbance, and allow a militarized police state to bully us into submission then we've failed. The fact that you quote his firearm as being a "pistol" and without hesitation declare short barreled rifles illegal is cringy. The only fools are the people sitting behind their keyboards mocking a guy who is actively protesting for your rights. I don't have to agree with everything he says or does to acknowledge he's taking more initiative than any of you are by ganging up on him and snickering. It's the typical fudd clique mentality that has accelerated the slippery slope we're knee deep in.
I already know how you're going to respond to this post. Who does this guy think he is, with one post, coming in here and disagreeing with us? We've been here for over a decade and everyone agrees with our opinions. This is OUR echo chamber. I know what'll work. Ban me. Then you won't have anyone to challenge you.
Still hasn't been banned by anyone on staff.
It does seem like JHW87 banned themselves. It isn't very hard to join the board, but I'm not sure I understand how it is worth it to join just to make one post and then walk away. But it seems like we may never know.
In general I am pretty libertarian when it comes to 1st and 2nd Amendment Audits. Done well, they can serve a useful purpose to educate and condition a less extreme response to what otherwise is a legal, Constitutionally protected activity. Some auditors are obviously not well educated and are just looking to provoke a bad response. Here is an audit I consider to be pointless and not at all worth the time it takes to watch. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WlgkSLqskE&t=56s
OtterbatHellcat
05-23-2019, 21:15
That exchange pisses me off.
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