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mattiooo
06-16-2019, 12:04
I need some help with load data that's not in the Western Powders loading data book. I am loading 45 Colt and I'm using Missouri Bullet Company Cowboy #1 bullets. They are powder coated lead bullets and 250 grains. The load data for Accurate #5 only has plated bullets for 250 grain and lead bullets are 255 grains. There is no lead option for 250 grains. Also, I have some True Blue I want to test, and the load data has no 250 grain option at all. Just lead 255 grain.

I've emailed Western Powders and I am waiting for a response, but does this information exist somewhere? Missouri Bullet doesn't provide load data for their bullets. I've looked in the Laser-cast load data, but they don't have Western Powders in it.

Thanks,
Matt

Colorado Osprey
06-17-2019, 19:16
**as always use internet load data as a consult only** always check multiple sources- NOT my info below My favorite is Clays for a clean burning load.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/archive/index.php/t-300174.html

My reloading books just don't show much information for a 45LC 255 grain bullet. I was looking for some reloading info on this bullet.Pappy, here's 45LC reloading data for the 255 Pb bullets - pick one ...
250-255 grain LRNFP (Lead Round Nose, flat point)
Nitro 100 use 4.7 to 5.3 grains for 800-875 fps (old formulation)
Bullseye 6.3 gr. 810
Unique 6.4 gr. 716 (very mild, caution, some bullets
can stick in barrel- this is below MINIMUM.)
Unique 7.0 gr. 722 (mild in 4 5/8" bbl)
Unique 8.6 gr. 891 MAX in one manual
Unique 8.5 gr. 734 (Actual in 7 1/2" bbl revolver)
Unique 8.5 gr. 963 (Actual in Rossi 45 Carbine)
Unique 9.0 gr. 905 MAX LOAD (I got 932.2 in revolver)
Unique 9.5 gr.*** 992 MAX+ (Actual in 7 1/2" bbl revolver)
Unique 10.0 gr.*** 1024 MAX+ (Actual in 7 1/2" bbl 250 gr. RNFP)
Unique 10.0 gr.*** 1007 MAX+ (Actual in 7 1/2" bbl 255 gr. SWC)
(I do not recommend over 8.5 gr of Unique; tough on guns)
Universal 6.5 gr. 742 Cowboy mild
Universal 7.8 gr. 941 Cowboy MAX
Universal 7.2 gr. 804
HP38 5.8 gr. 785 cowboy mild
HP38 7.1 gr. 916
HS6 9.0 gr. 787 Cowboy mild
HS6## 10.5 gr. 946 Cowboy Max load ##
Clays 4.2 gr. 713 cowboy mild
Clays 5.1 gr. 817 cowboy MAX
AA5744 16.0 gr. 773 (in 5 1/2" bbl revolver)
AA5744 16.0 gr. 872 (in 7 1/2" bbl revolver)(ES=38 fps)
AA5744 17.8 gr. 860 (-MAXIMUM LOAD Nitro)
AA5744 17.0 gr. 853 (Powder UP - see note)
(Hi=872.5 Lo=827.5 Spread=45 fps)(some unburned powder)
AA5744 17.0 gr. 802 (Powder DOWN - see note)
(Hi=809.2 Lo=792.6 Spread=16.6 fps)
AA N100 5.5 gr. 780 (mild)
AA N100 6.2 gr. 886 MAX
AA No. 2 5.9 gr. 730 (mild)(AA now says 813 fps)
AA No. 5 9.4 gr. 846 (mild)
AA No. 5 10.4 gr. 961 MAX
AA No. 5 11.0 gr.* 969 MAX + (Ruger & T/C only)
AA No. 9 13.6 gr. 800 Hi=910 Lo=813 ES 190
AA No. 9 14.0 gr. 867 Hi=909 Lo=842 ES=67
AA No. 9 14.6 gr. 905 Hi=1002 Lo=840 ES=162
AA No. 9 15.0 gr. 880=Powder Up (708=Powder Down)5" bbl.
AA No. 9 15.5 gr. 982 Hi=1016 Lo=900 ES=116
AA No. 9 14.3 gr. 850 (Factory specs)
AA No. 9 16.3 gr. 1,050 (MAXIMUM)
Nitro 100 5.5 gr. 868 (cowboy load)
Solo 1000 5.8 gr. 807 (cowboy load)
231 7.0 gr. 704 (mild)
231 7.5 gr. 843 (Actual in 7 1/2" bbl revolver)
WAP 8.6 gr. 776
IMR4227 17.0 gr. 830
IMR4227 19.0 gr. 904 Maximum for regular Colt. 45
IMR800-X 8.0 gr. 769 (mild)
IMR PB 6.5 gr. 630 (very mild)
IMR PB 7.0 gr. 700 (MAX)
VV N320 5.9 gr. 805
VV N340 6.6 gr. 641 (mild)
Trail Boss 4.5 gr. 606 (IMR start load)
Trail Boss 5.8 gr. 727 (IMR max load)
*Blackhorn 206 22.2 gr. 869 Max (full case)
N32C Tin Star 8.3 gr. 889 start
N32C Tin Star 9.6 gr. 1,001 Max
True Blue 9.3 gr. 865 near max
* Blackhorn 209 is a black powder substitute with smokeless
like qualities. Load it like Trail Boss
-------------------Ruger Blackhawk, T/C only---------------------
Nitro 100 7.3 to 8.1 gr. * 1,050 @ 8.1 Max load
(No. 5 11.8 gr.***1,080)* (10.6 to 11.8 MAX/MAX is good range)
(No. 7 14.6 gr.***1,023)* (13.6 to 15.1 MAX is good range)
(No. 9 17.6 gr.***1,180)* (15.8 to 17.6 MAX is good range)
* For Ruger and T/C ONLY !
*** ONLY USE in Ruger, T/C and modern guns. This EXCEEDS MAX LOAD Use at your OWN RISK)
## new Cowboy load from Hodgdon
AA5744 is most consistent powder I have found, point up or down in case before firing.
Less "position sensitive." Titegroup performs well.
New (2005) Trail Boss is very bulky and very consistent.
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My favorite is 6.8gr of ETR7 (4 5/8") Vaquero barrels at 768 fps with an SD of 9

spqrzilla
06-19-2019, 00:15
The powder coated bullets are going to behave just like ordinary lead bullets for reloading purposes. I would go ahead and start with the 255 grain lead bullet data. The 255 grain lead bullet is only about 2% heavier - which is pretty close to the error range of 250 grain powder coated bullets I suspect.

Hoser
06-19-2019, 07:31
Just use starting loads for the 250 and go from there.