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"Billionaire Bernie Marcus has already given more than $2 billion to upwards of 300 organizations, and he said he plans to donate the majority of his fortune while he?s still alive and support President Trump for re-election in the 2020 presidential election.
The Home Depot co-founder told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution over the weekend that he?s continuing to look for worthy causes to donate to while he?s still living. Marcus, 90, added that 80 to 90 percent of his wealth will go to the Marcus Foundation when he dies to fund other organizations such as medical discoveries, helping children with autism and veteran support."
https://dmlnewsapp.com/report-billionaire-donate-majority-fortune-support-trump-re-election/ (https://dmlnewsapp.com/report-billionaire-donate-majority-fortune-support-trump-re-election/)
Hope Home Depot employees are ready for the people who never stepped foot in HD to protest/boycott HD.
BushMasterBoy
06-30-2019, 19:08
Home Depot will build a Trump theme park like they did for Dolly Parton. Maybe it will have a Space Force ride too. Maybe hand out free flags. I dunno...
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This information makes me want to shop at The Home Depot at exactly the same rate as before I knew the information.
BPTactical
06-30-2019, 20:48
Tax audit in 3......2.......1
Big Orange still sucks. That is all.
kidicarus13
06-30-2019, 22:52
Tax audit in 3......2.......1.
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I’m glad he is supporting Trump. Better that than the opposite
Big Orange still sucks. That is all.
Have some respect for the President, please.
Big Orange still sucks. That is all.
Have some respect for the President, please.
I thought it might have been a personal attack toward Ray.
Have some respect for the President, please.
Lol
RblDiver
07-01-2019, 10:15
Hope Home Depot employees are ready for the people who never stepped foot in HD to protest/boycott HD.
Eh, just hire the guys who stand outside HD to counter-protest! [ROFL1]
BushMasterBoy
07-01-2019, 10:19
The lowest of the lowes...
The lowest of the lowes...
ok, that's terrifically clever.
ChickNorris
07-01-2019, 12:44
The lowest of the lowes...
ok, that's terrifically clever.
: )
Hope Home Depot employees are ready for the people who never stepped foot in HD to protest/boycott HD.
?My Ancestors Were Lynched And Hung?: Delaware Sisters Outraged After Finding Noose Hanging Inside Home Depot
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/07/15/delaware-sisters-outraged-after-finding-noose-hanging-inside-home-depot/
Noose
In the rope aisle
Where people buy rope
These rope customers are due a major settlement. Nothing less than $10M. Thankfully they weren't in the market for any chain, nails, or posts--the historical horrors of these things would have been far too much to bear.
I'm happy HD is working with local law enforcement. Because I'm sure the juvenile who was playing with rope in the rope aisle committed a hate crime.
Had to check the article to see if it was an actual noose, or just a bowline.
Had to check the article to see if it was an actual noose, or just a bowline.
Looks like a legit noose to me.
I would have posted a pic but they are all in facebook. There is a vid in the story if anyone's interested.
I didn't realize that a single race had a lock on the history of the hangman's noose. Rope is color blind.
When does the cherry-picking of what anyone decides as being offensive/hurtful to feels end? There's some ugliness in everyone's history. How many years until we stop hanging onto the past that we can't change and focus on the future that we can change?
I didn't realize that a single race had a lock on the history of the hangman's noose. Rope is color blind.
When does the cherry-picking of what anyone decides as being offensive/hurtful to feels end? There's some ugliness in everyone's history. How many years until we stop hanging onto the past that we can't change and focus on the future that we can change?
List out some situations that shed the noose in a positive light, or conversely where they aren't tied to hanging people.
Granted, when I think of a noose, I'm more likely to think of the Salem witch trials and the Wild West more than I am of lynch mobs. I'm not sure why we should be upset about their reaction though. The person that staged that noose was looking for a very specific reaction, and they got it. There is nothing defensible about putting a noose in a public spot like this, so let's not try and defend or diminish it.
hurley842002
07-16-2019, 11:58
Granted, when I think of a noose, I'm more likely to think of the Salem witch trials and the Wild West more than I am of lynch mobs. I'm not sure why we should be upset about their reaction though. The person that staged that noose was looking for a very specific reaction, and they got it. There is nothing defensible about putting a noose in a public spot like this, so let's not try and defend or diminish it.
I agree.
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How does leaving this in a public place like the Home Depot rope aisle "target" someone? Does that rise to the level of "use in a threatening matter" to you?
A noose is a knot that has some uses outside of 'only hanging black people'.
Someone better pass a law to prevent anyone from tying one to prevent this from ever happening again. [Sarcasm2]
Can't wait for those militant vegetarians/vegans to file suit for the hostile, intimidating, and offensive murdered animals in the meat aisle at the supermarket.
This is getting dangerously close to blaming inanimate objects like guns for what bad people can do with them.
beast556
07-16-2019, 12:59
This is getting dangerously close to blaming inanimate objects like guns for what bad people can do with them.
+1 anything to get offended about is the new hotness!!!!!
+1 anything to get offended about is the new hotness!!!!!
I find that offensive. [handbags]
[Muaha]
This is getting dangerously close to blaming inanimate objects like guns for what bad people can do with them.
No, no it isn't. Would you agree that there are things that are worth being offended about, or is anything that anyone complains about just people being too sensitive?
beast556
07-16-2019, 14:05
No, no it isn't. Would you agree that there are things that are worth being offended about, or is anything that anyone complains about just people being too sensitive?
There are very things to get offended about. Some dumb ass tieing a noose at HD is not one of them. All this PC bullshit needs to stop. No matter what you say or do it can be twisted and offend some one in this world. So should we all just sit mute and do nothing for fear of offending some one?
There are very things to get offended about. Some dumb ass tieing a noose at HD is not one of them. All this PC bullshit needs to stop. No matter what you say or do it can be twisted and offend some one in this world. So should we all just sit mute and do nothing for fear of offending some one?
If there is nothing to be offended about, why is the person who tied the noose a dumbass?
You're trying to argue that just going about your day and tying nooses are in the same category. They aren't.
Let me clear up where I'm coming from so it's not confused with anything else (like whatever the article says). Tying a noose in a public place is offensive. I'm not advocating for a new law, or any action at all. Just making the point that tying a noose is offensive. That doesn't mean that we all need to go home and cry, or have a moment of silence for the breaking of a social norm, any more than we would if someone spray paints a dick on an overpass. Just that it is an offensive action. If it's not, then why not? Would laying out a bunch of bolts in the pattern of a Swastika be any more or less offensive?
beast556
07-16-2019, 14:47
Irving why is a noose offensive? Is it's because it is used to kill people? Guns are use to kill people are they offensive?
Fentonite
07-16-2019, 14:59
My first thought when I heard that a kid had tied a noose in the rope aisle was that maybe he was contemplating suicide, not threatening anyone.
My first thought when I heard that a kid had tied a noose in the rope aisle was that maybe he was contemplating suicide, not threatening anyone.
That's a realistic concern, but it doesn't carry the same social justice score in the 'who's more woke than the next ze' game.
My first thought when I heard that a kid had tied a noose in the rope aisle was that maybe he was contemplating suicide, not threatening anyone.
Yeah, we really have no idea. I assumed it was kids messing around. Probably the Goths. But who knows.
I posted it because the timing was interesting. HD isn't explicitly racist so a symbol was found and reported as problematic. Controversy was created from the rope aisle. Where rope is known to exist.
Missing are the adults who recognize the symbol could be a problem and take care of it without public spectacle thus allowing it to do no further harm.
Aloha_Shooter
07-16-2019, 16:44
Haven't been able to see a picture to check if it's an actual noose as opposed to an overhand on a bend (aka overhand loop knot) or other loop knot but assuming it is, I have two thoughts. The first is that the woman who complained is suffering from hysterical overreaction, probably caused by contemporary society and professional "offendees" but the second is that tying and leaving a hangman's noose behind is an offensive act and pretty immature. Guns can be used for self-defense, pest control, etc. and are protected by the Second Amendment. A hangman's noose really doesn't have any other real use -- there are much better loop knots for anything else you want to do with rope. Nooses weren't even taught when I was going through Boy Scouts -- I had to reverse engineer one from pictures and I did it solely from curiosity. I've had Scouts ask about how to tie one and I've shown them but always with a discussion of why it's different from other knots (although I didn't have race-based lynching in mind).
I still think the complainant overreacted because it's hardly likely someone left the knot behind to target her or anyone else specifically. I still think it's more likely it was a different loop knot and she just mistook it for a noose but if it WAS a noose, the most likely scenario in my mind is that someone tied the knot out of idle boredom and then got pulled away before they could undo it. I think the chances of that are slim because that knot really isn't covered in most knot-tying books or references and it's hardly the first thing most people would think of doing with a loose piece of rope but it IS a possibility, particularly with a bored kid (or adult) who sees a good piece of thick rope and wonders if he can still remember how to tie that knot.
Irving why is a noose offensive? Is it's because it is used to kill people? Guns are use to kill people are they offensive?
A noose is offensive for the same reason that a Swastika is offensive. The noose has been held up as a symbol of oppression against a people/s that were specifically targeted because of their ethnicity. It's unfortunate (kind of), but that's what's happened, and now it's taboo, just like the Swastika.
I get that people are frustrated by PC culture, we all are, but to defend things that are indefensible just as a knee-jerk reaction to ultra PC stuff is going full potato.
In no way is it a concession by you, or a win for SJW, by admitting that a noose is offensive. No angry mob needs to be formed to find the noose tying culprit, but an acknowledgement that it is a shitty thing to do is not a sign of weakness. You, beast, obviously understand and agree with that, or you never would have called the noose tyer an asshole in the first place.
I know many of you think I'm some liberal plant for the last few years, but that's not the case. I'm trying to point out a fallacy that many people fall into where by pulling back so hard from something they don't like, that they inadvertently become the very thing that they don't like.
It bothers me greatly that every damn thing possible can be twisted into something offensive. It's deceitful to act like that and when I see it, I'm embarrassed for the people involved. Similarly, when people get defensive to the point of trying to defend things that shouldn't really be defended, then they fall into the same category.
We don't need to over-exaggerate the significance of a noose, but we don't need to try and dwindle it down to nothing, either. I think the over-reaction, from either side, just keeps us in this embattled rut that we feel like we're in.
There are other examples I was thinking of, but they aren't specifically related and the thread has moved on by now. I'm not trying to defend any one point of view, just point out where these conversations are going down hill when people (again, on both sides) are completely tone deaf. If you're neighbor's toddler dies, if you tell them, "Well...kids die every day, that's just nature." You might be right, but you sound like a total asshole and rather than talking through some issue and everyone coming out the other side on the same team, you've just needlessly, further driven a wedge between everyone.
**All "yous" used are in general, and not specific unless otherwise noted.
Apparently the only way to satisfy everyone, is to not participate or interact with anyone. Ever. Sounds like Utopia.
It's not about satisfaction necessarily. I might liken it closer to bullying. Actually, let's use people that are clearly fishing for a compliment. You're having a conversation with someone. You don't even really like them. They are fishing for a compliment. They know it, and you know it. How do you move the conversation forward? You don't want to give them a "win," and they are desperately seeking the attention they need. A well practiced response would be to acknowledge what they are saying without kissing their ass and telling them how beautiful they are or how good they are at X or whatever, and move the conversation forward. This is a good response. You don't have to give anything up by playing into their scheme, but you aren't shooting them down for wanting some response or having some opinion.
Conversely, you're talking, their fishing for a compliment, and instead you tell them that their haircut looks like shit, and have they gained a bunch of weight? Well now you've needlessly created a rift and made things uncomfortable, and possibly non-correctable for interactions in the future. Is that really what you wanted to do? Maybe this person is a co-worker, neighbor, or sister-in-law. You're going to see them again, you regularly interact with their friends. On one hand, you've made your position clear so it can never be questioned how you feel. On the other hand, you look like an asshole because the path you chose was less socially acceptable than them seeking out a compliment in the first place. Even people on the sidelines who weren't in the conversation are thinking, "Damn, compliment seeker is annoying for sure, but other guy is just an asshole." Congratulations, you've managed to completely fuck up what was just a normal level of awkward conversation. Now people who know you both will have to, at the very least, act differently in the presence of each person, if not just pick sides. The relationship is forever tarnished and OH SHIT, Thanksgiving/the block party/that group project are is just next week. Well great job keeping it real, because now you've made all further interactions more needlessly more difficult. Bravo, pat yourself on the back.
Maybe I'm being blind to my own point of view here, but is this making sense to anyone? Is common decency toward other people something to be looked down upon?
beast556
07-16-2019, 18:07
A noose is offensive for the same reason that a Swastika is offensive. The noose has been held up as a symbol of oppression against a people/s that were specifically targeted because of their ethnicity. It's unfortunate (kind of), but that's what's happened, and now it's taboo, just like the Swastika.
This is the first I'm hearing of this. As far as I know the noose was used to kill people all across the world not just black people. Comparing a noose to the Swastika is absurd.
Define "common decency" in a way where it's not possible for someone to say they're offended. There is nothing "common" today. What was right is now wrong, up is now down, and dark is now light.
Every comment is second-guessed. The "community" defines the intent, like they can see into the heart & mind of the person that made it.
It's from the same mindset that has allowed the concept of "hate crime" to exist in our legal system. Is killing someone wrong and illegal? Yes. Killing someone involves facts. Allowing others to define another person's "feelings" is a slippery and unjust slope, IMO.
This is the first I'm hearing of this. As far as I know the noose was used to kill people all across the world not just black people. Comparing a noose to the Swastika is absurd.
I agree. And to those cultures/religions that had the swastika/sauwastika (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika) symbol co-opted by the Germans in the 1930s, I feel bad for them as well.
This is the first I'm hearing of this. As far as I know the noose was used to kill people all across the world not just black people. Comparing a noose to the Swastika is absurd.
Sure, it was until the Klan came around. Just like the Swastika was a buddist thing, until the Nazi's adopted and then ruined it. The Klan is the most recent egregious offenders of lynching people, so that is the reality that we are currently operating in. By denying that you understand why people would be offended by a noose, is doing exactly what I was just talking about. It's intellectually dishonest. Further, is the symbol of a noose that important to you that you just can't let it fall fade into history as some bad omen? Are you securing your trailer with nooses? I get fighting against some dumb trend in the midst of while it's happening, but what's the deal?
Who is the governing body of defining what is or isn't a symbol and the meaning of that symbol? Does it come down to who used it in a negative context last? Do we just create an alternative reality because it no longer suits our overly-sensitized emotional state?
It goes along the same lines of socially conscious language that is allowed to be used to discuss anything. Letting them define the language also shuts down critical debate. That's by design.
That you can't even acknowledge that you understand the point I'm trying to make is all the information I need to know that it is a waste of both of our time and my brain cells to continue this conversation. Carry on winning debates with your noose-positive perspective.
beast556
07-16-2019, 19:23
Irving Is this how you get your jollys off??? Acting like you are better than everyone. Half the shit you say you know is bullshit your just saying it to get under people skin to have an argument with them.
Symbols are important. I said that in the other thread and see it here. I’m just highly skeptical of the facts of the story particularly when it’s the rope aisle and the gut reaction is “call the media” to broadcast the hurtful symbol.
In that other thread, I wanted the MX flag taken down, not raised all over town so I can have victim status or moral superiority.
That you can't even acknowledge that you understand the point I'm trying to make is all the information I need to know that it is a waste of both of our time and my brain cells to continue this conversation. Carry on winning debates with your noose-positive perspective.
That's so telling. I never said the noose was positive, but that's what you have to throw at me. Nice try.
What I don't accept is being defined by what the social crowd thinks is the correct answer. Peer pressure doesn't usually work on me. That's been me my entire life, and it won't change. Hence me not being one of the 'cool kids'.
They went so far out of their way to target an audience that they tied a noose on the rope aisle. These must be the laziest people on the planet to attempt to threaten a specific racial group in this manner.
Don't make decisions based on what you think people want you to think, or to win favor with a specific audience. Look at the data and make up your own mind. If you can't prove intent, there isn't any.
Irving Is this how you get your jollys off??? Acting like you are better than everyone. Half the shit you say you know is bullshit your just saying it to get under people skin to have an argument with them.
How much fun does it seem like I'm having?
SideShow Bob
07-16-2019, 21:43
Is it pile on Irving day ? Can I join in ?
For those of us old enough to remember how & when the noose got the negative connotation as a symbol of racism, we got your back on this one Irving.
Let the uneducated crap out of their pie holes.
I’ve Been called into HR for shouting “Outriggers” before lowering them on a digger Derrick truck and a greenhorn apprentice said I called him a *igger.
Yep, PC has gone too far. Anyone who looks remotely white has to walk on eggshells even on construction sites lest we say something that could be twisted into a racial slur or offend some snowflake.
I don’t even teach apprentices how to tie a bowline in case some tard thinks it is a noose.
Aloha_Shooter
07-18-2019, 09:14
Similar hysteria turns out to be a common fishing knot: https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/noose-found-at-u-michigan-hospital-turns-out-not-to-be-a-noose/
(https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/noose-found-at-u-michigan-hospital-turns-out-not-to-be-a-noose/)
https://t.co/S64fMsBtaB
This is why I wanted to see the offending knot itself. Having said that, I disagree that the noose itself is necessarily a hate symbol equivalent to the swastika and iI don't think it's tied to the KKK in most people's minds like burning crosses are but it IS a symbol indicative of execution: intentional human-caused death. There are better knots for virtually everything except what it was designed for. It's not used for hunting or self-defense.
It's not used for hunting or self-defense.
In other words, it doesn't fall into the definition of a sporting-purpose knot? :)
O2
In other words, it doesn't fall into the definition of a sporting-purpose knot? :)
O2
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