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10x
07-17-2019, 08:29
Weed B Gone is so watered down it doesn't work on dandelion s in the yard. I am tired of spraying multiple times with no effect. Anyone have an alternative?

Skywalker
07-17-2019, 08:34
Big R product is what I use. https://www.bigr.com/lawn-garden/maintain/agri-star-2-1-2-gal-2-4-d-lv4-weed-killer/715060.html


Weed B Gone is so watered down it doesn't work on dandelion s in the yard. I am tired of spraying multiple times with no effect. Anyone have an alternative?

DEAGLER
07-17-2019, 08:36
Strange. The green ortho weed b gone I use takes out dandelions with 2 sessions.

ray1970
07-17-2019, 08:42
I got tired of dealing with weed issues years ago so I use TruGreen to come out and take care of it for me.

20X11
07-17-2019, 08:58
I got tired of dealing with weed issues years ago so I use TruGreen to come out and take care of it for me.

+1

thedave1164
07-17-2019, 09:07
I got tired of dealing with weed issues years ago so I use TruGreen to come out and take care of it for me.

the TruGreen BASTARDS killed my lawn, NEVER FORGET!!!!

Gman
07-17-2019, 09:13
Mix it from concentrate at a little stronger rate? Add a drop of dishwashing liquid to help it stick to the leaves? Weed-B-Gone Max?

Great-Kazoo
07-17-2019, 09:40
Here's what we use out here.

1st choice white vinegar with 1 tbsp of liquid soap in high pet traffic areas


2 and used by a lot of people with horses. Pasture Pro. whne dry pet safe

3: Weed Beater Fe. High iron content



#'s 2 & 3 are both non glyphospate? (roundup) weed killers.I just put down some weed beater on a section to see how it works compared to pasture pro.


https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/gordons-pasture-pro-herbicide-1-gal


https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bonide-1-Gal-Weed-Beater-Fe-RTU-322/305716545

00tec
07-17-2019, 09:59
This stuff did a great job nuking the dandelions and thistle in my yard.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Spectracide-Weed-Stop-32-oz-Ready-to-Spray-Concentrate-for-Lawns-Plus-Crabgrass-Lawns-HG-95703-7/202056488

Skip
07-17-2019, 11:20
the TruGreen BASTARDS killed my lawn, NEVER FORGET!!!!

Me too. (well not a complete kill just the overseeding that I paid them to do)

And they charged me ~$600 for the service that year. They still call every so often to try and sell me again, I tell the story, they say "oh."

Lawn looks way better with just me, a spreader, and $40 of fertilizer a year.

ChickNorris
07-17-2019, 13:29
Thats silly, its not orange juice & profit margins. Chemical is watered down to a specific ratio to be effective, selective & safe(r).

Many factors including temp, time, saturation, surfactant & subsequent watering all play an important roll in the effectiveness of a herbicide.

Basic rules of the trade: Apply in the early morning on a clear day 3 or more days prior to mowing, do not water for 2 days, do not apply when temps are expected to be above 90 & do apply to all surfaces of the foliage if possible & just to the point of run off. If you've followed all of these general guidelines & your weeds persist or fail to show any signs of curling/attrition there could be another reason...

Offhand, I don't remember if ortho wbg is a triamine base herbicide. If so & because of it prevalence for homeowner use, your Dandies may have built up an immunity to the salts. You'll need to try a different chemical base & follow the above guidelines.

To prevent future germination you may also try a pre emergent such as 'Preen' though you should keep in mind it will retard the growth of all seed, including lawn varieties if you have plans to overseed. Side note: your wbg has a reduced but similar affect on the surrounding soil for a short time after application.

If you have any other questions you're welcome to pm.


Everything is a weed unless you want it.

def90
07-17-2019, 14:17
Weed B Gone is so watered down it doesn't work on dandelion s in the yard. I am tired of spraying multiple times with no effect. Anyone have an alternative?

They make a "ready to use" version and a concentrate version of Weed B Gone, which are you using? I agree that the "ready to use" version is a bit weak. I buy the concentrate version and just use that without adding the water that you are supposed to add and it wipes stuff out in a few days.

https://www.ortho.com/en-us/products/weeds/ortho-weed-b-gon-weed-killer-lawns-concentrate2

As far as application goes, I spot spray the weeds right after mowing and then I don't water for a day or so afterwards. I usually see wilting by the next morning.

ChickNorris
07-17-2019, 14:30
I buy the concentrate version and just use that without adding the water that you are supposed to add and it wipes stuff out in a few days.


If you don't have licensing & regulators to answer to then yes... the 'like you mean it' approach works too. F* that weed & his whole family.

Giggle

def90
07-17-2019, 17:16
If you don't have licensing & regulators to answer to then yes... the 'like you mean it' approach works too. F* that weed & his whole family.

Giggle

I was licensed by the state of Minnesota years ago. I'm pretty sure anything that can be bought off the shelf at Home Depot falls well below epa guidelines. I know the commercial stuff we used and that I had to keep a log book on worked better than even the concentrate they sell off the shelf. Either way, I think I have a long way to go before I hit the max allowable application level for my yard. ;)

Irving
07-17-2019, 17:34
Weed B Gone is so watered down it doesn't work on dandelion s in the yard. I am tired of spraying multiple times with no effect. Anyone have an alternative?

Concrete.

Gman
07-17-2019, 17:44
Tell that to the weeds growing in the cracks in my driveway. Damn things resist pulling as well.

Zundfolge
07-17-2019, 17:46
At this point the only thing making my yard green is the weeds :(

Gman
07-17-2019, 17:48
Healthy grass is usually the best solution to weeds in the lawn. I'm busy fighting some sprinkler issues and the grass is getting a bit crispy...so I don't have that.

Irving
07-17-2019, 17:56
I hear it's important to check the pH balance of the soil and correct from there. I hear that in Colorado we have the balance that is more difficult to correct to and takes years. Jer probably has some things to say about this.

MrPrena
07-17-2019, 18:18
Yes titrating the soil acid/base is important.
My guess is it is little more basic (alkaline) than other area due to heavier mineral (at least in thornton).

As long as animals dont pee/poo and give water continuously, I dont think it will go higher than 9 and lower than 5.


Edited to add: I hope 9 and 5 gave away the little humor but I am not an agri hogri expert. :)

ETA2: I am happy with weed b gone, but are there better and less expensive products?

longrange2
07-17-2019, 18:36
Go to Big R or Murdoch’s and buy a jug of 2-4, D it comes in concentrations up to 60+ % and then you can dilute it down to the concentration you want. The Home Depot pre mixed stuff is a waste of time. If you have woody/brushy extra tough weeds look for a 2-4,D and dicamba blend, just don’t apply that anywhere near the drip line of trees or shrubs because dicamba works through leaf contact and through the roots after being watered in.

The glyphosphate products are bare ground herbicides and kill everything including grass.

Erni
07-17-2019, 19:25
Any recomendations for weeds in the root zone? Drip zone?

Jer
07-17-2019, 19:30
Don't mix concentrates stronger. Stronger isn't better & in cases of Weed-B-Gone & Round-up... It's worse. You don't want it "stronger" as it will ruin the uptake channels that kill the plant. This is a common misconception when it comes to weed killers. For the same reason, you want the plant healthy. This means watering regularly before spraying. A day or two leading up to application you want the plants to be watered, hydrated & healthy. Then, upon spraying, you want them dry & for the few hours following application no moisture. Then, water regularly as this all makes them healthy enough to actually take the poison in properly. If the weeds are dry they go into shock & won't process the poison fully. These are the most common mistakes people make with application.

Source: come look at my yard sometime. ;-)

10x
07-17-2019, 19:36
I used to use wbg concentrate, but couldn't find it recently at lowes. I will try again and use it straight.

SideShow Bob
07-17-2019, 19:50
To the OP and others, when buying WBG, reach to the rear of the shelf to grab the gallon pre-mix. Then open the cap and make sure it has a milky (watery milky) color. Don’t grab the ones on the front of the shelf , that is where the returns are put. One time, I must have gotten a return that was poured out into another container, filled with tap water, then returned to to the store. After I noticed it wasn’t working on the weeds, I opened the cap and I swear it was filled with tap water.

fitz19d
07-18-2019, 07:27
To the OP and others, when buying WBG, reach to the rear of the shelf to grab the gallon pre-mix. Then open the cap and make sure it has a milky (watery milky) color. Don’t grab the ones on the front of the shelf , that is where the returns are put. One time, I must have gotten a return that was poured out into another container, filled with tap water, then returned to to the store. After I noticed it wasn’t working on the weeds, I opened the cap and I swear it was filled with tap water.

Probably, picked up a smaller boxed xmas tree a year or two back. Assholes had returned it with some rinky dink pos old xmas tree that was clearly used/not the one that was supposed to be in the package.

ScottR65
07-18-2019, 07:38
I got tired of dealing with weed issues years ago so I use TruGreen to come out and take care of it for me.

I just started using TruGreen earlier this year and I?ve been pleased with the general fertilizing and sprinkler repairs they did, but coincidentally I am arguing with them right now trying to get them to come out for another application of herbicide in my rock garden because the weeds are coming back. Since the rock garden herbicide was a one time treatment they?re saying there was no guarantee.


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Jer
07-18-2019, 08:27
I just started using TruGreen earlier this year and I?ve been pleased with the general fertilizing and sprinkler repairs they did, but coincidentally I am arguing with them right now trying to get them to come out for another application of herbicide in my rock garden because the weeds are coming back. Since the rock garden herbicide was a one time treatment they?re saying there was no guarantee.

Screw TruGreen. Bunch of hustlers that will bother you until the day you die if they ever get your number or address.