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SideShow Bob
08-03-2019, 12:54
Just caught a blurb......
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/el-paso-tx-shooting-live-updates/index.html
SuperiorDG
08-03-2019, 13:07
multiple shooters + El Paso + Walmart = gang bangers
kidicarus13
08-03-2019, 13:13
https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/el-paso-again-tops-list-of-safest-us-cities/269-e4d89fbe-060a-4dfd-9243-85e1beb9351e
Singlestack
08-03-2019, 13:31
https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/el-paso-again-tops-list-of-safest-us-cities/269-e4d89fbe-060a-4dfd-9243-85e1beb9351e
Hold it. Didn't Beto just lecture us a few days ago on how LPaso was one of the safest cities in the world? Early view of Antifas announcement of a Texas visit around beginning of September?
Just caught a blurb......
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/el-paso-tx-shooting-live-updates/index.html
And from that article, the Dem candidates are already looking for ways to take advantage of more blood and steal away our freedoms for their political gain.
Sounds more like single white guy. Walked in with earmuffs and some very basic looking AK. WRU a return on actually forcing mental health and asylums, because dollars to donuts it's another FBI and everyone else already had plenty of warning signs in hand.
Pic link may or may not work.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/510623757476560917/607304113578836020/shooter.png
Are there or are there not fatalities? Aside from the early comment from the mayor, it's difficult to tell.
Perp didn't want to damage his hearing, or he's 'special' and somebody sold those to him as a "silencer".
It's still illegal to attempt to murder people, but we need more laws to prevent this. /SARC
Prayers out to those affected.
ETA: CBSN is reporting 10 dead.
Hold it. Didn't Beto just lecture us a few days ago on how LPaso was one of the safest cities in the world? Early view of Antifas announcement of a Texas visit around beginning of September?
MSNBC news on TV quote the deputy mayor of the area as saying that town is/was one of the safest in the nation...
Just found out a friend was in the mall when this happened.
Zundfolge
08-03-2019, 15:18
I find it ironic that just days after Antifa announced (https://noqreport.com/2019/07/29/antifas-planned-el-paso-attack-saul-alinsky-steroids/) that it would begin engaging in a "seige" of El Paso TX that this happens.
Rucker61
08-03-2019, 16:05
I've seen up to 19 dead, and this Walmart is fairly close to the border. I've seen some commentary that it's very popular with Mexicans who come across the border legally to shop.
I've also seen that the shooter came from Dallas.
This seems like a new thing.
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I think the biggest tragedy in these things is that likely 90-95% of Americans wait with anticipation to see if it's one of "the other guys" who did it, and if so, gleefully shove it in everyones face while breathing a sigh of relief that "it's not them". These are so heavily politicized anymore by all sides and accounts it's disgusting.
There's a failure all around here (I don't mean this site), this issue is not about politics, it's about the squishy thing inside the head that people don't use anymore.
I wish we'd get over sentiments and invest in brain research like we do space - not that space investment is bad, but we know leaps and bounds more about space and physics than our own brains, and a surprising amount of society's ills could be resolved (and fully understood) if we just knew more.
ETA: A good start would be for everyone to stop bitching about guns and force every surviving shooters to go through the most advance FMRI and neural pathway tracing systems that we have [fuck their rights at that point... right?], many times, even hundreds, under many circumstances, and make that data available to any researcher.
I know, that's what I'm trying to point out.
Sorry the body count was only 4 this time everybody. Better luck next month when it happens again.
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/174954-Shooting-at-California-festival-kills-3-suspect-is-dead?p=2227583&viewfull=1#post2227583
Nailed it. Only had to wait five days until the next statistical anomaly that none of us should worry about.
Meets the minimum threshold for "mass shooting." - check
Assuming it's regular criminal violence (i.e. gangs). - check
Upon finding out it was a lone shooter that doesn't appear to be a minority or token "illegal", quickly pivoting to relating date of shooting to latest date of some completely unrelated event in another part of the country (Antifa). - check
Antifa MO: Large group of masked individuals that start riots with melee weapons under the guise of "counter protesting" some other "conservative" event.
Recent shooting: Lone individual, no mask, shoots up a public place that isn't hosting any type of event.
Close enough right?
Itz tax free back to school shopping in Texas, lots more families and kiddos at the mall....
Patrick Crusius DOB 7/27/1998 of Dallas TX alive and in custody. He posted a manifesto about this and it's available online in addition to pictures wearing ear protection muffs and an AK during the shooting. Early sources are claiming about 20, including a number of children casualties
78555
I forgot about those sales tax breaks for back to school. That really sucks if this nut leveraged this to up the body count of kids.
kidicarus13
08-03-2019, 17:24
Patrick Crusius DOB 7/27/1998 of Dallas TX alive and in custody. He posted a manifesto about this and it's available online in addition to pictures wearing ear protection muffs and an AK during the shooting. Early sources are claiming about 20, including a number of children casualties
78555Nice find. Thanks to adding a quality post to this thread.
KevDen2005
08-03-2019, 17:31
Patrick Crusius DOB 7/27/1998 of Dallas TX alive and in custody. He posted a manifesto about this and it's available online in addition to pictures wearing ear protection muffs and an AK during the shooting. Early sources are claiming about 20, including a number of children casualties
78555
good find. How?d you come across this? This is not going to bode well for anyone. What a pos!
Latest info and this will probably be my last post on this. Best wishes to all my associates on this forum.
"At least 20 people died and at least 26 others were injured in the shooting, according to Texas Governor Greg Abbott."
ChickNorris
08-03-2019, 18:40
Latest info and this will probably be my last post on this. Best wishes to all my associates on this forum.
"At least 20 people died and at least 26 others were injured in the shooting, according to Texas Governor Greg Abbott."
Um... I'm sorry because sometimes tone & meaning don't translate via print, but did I just read that as an uncomfortable moment like there is something more here?
Bolt, maybe you could clairify please?
Zundfolge
08-03-2019, 18:53
Many sources online are saying the manefesto is a fake.
Nothing further intended. I didn't want people to anticipate any further information from me on this mass murder.
All firearm enthusiasts are having a tough time with the current situation in this country and it will get much worse. I wanted to provide something positive to everyone on this forum.
Your positive intentions are welcome. I'm done throwing bombs in threads for today as well.
I want to say "I think it would do everyone a lot of good to wait and see what verified info comes out."
But I don't think we get good info anymore, everything is politicized.
The history of the lone gunman/mass murderer is just a little more complex then "it was a racist Republican NRA member."
SideShow Bob
08-03-2019, 20:01
Your positive intentions are welcome. I'm done throwing bombs in threads for today as well.
Well then,
There goes tonight’s entertainment.... Guess in a couple of hours I can go and see if I can spotlight the garter snakes in backyard.....
Great-Kazoo
08-03-2019, 21:37
I want to say "I think it would do everyone a lot of good to wait and see what verified info comes out."
But I don't think we get good info anymore, everything is politicized.
The history of the lone gunman/mass murderer is just a little more complex then "it was a racist Republican NRA member."
IF i were a tin foil hat type o guy I'd say
Conveniently timed with today's D debate. Nothing like a major platform to push an already in motion agenda.
I'm waiting for more details. If you guys get wind of sourced info, please share.
What we know about the El Paso shooting suspect (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/what-we-know-about-the-el-paso-shooting-suspect/ar-AAFioAh)
Allen, TX is a fairly affluent area.
Singlestack
08-04-2019, 06:54
I'm waiting for more details. If you guys get wind of sourced info, please share.
What we know about the El Paso shooting suspect (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/what-we-know-about-the-el-paso-shooting-suspect/ar-AAFioAh)
Allen, TX is a fairly affluent area.
It is. I was there in early December and it is a very nice community
IF i were a tin foil hat type o guy I'd say
Conveniently timed with today's D debate. Nothing like a major platform to push an already in motion agenda.
Dems are on all three major cable nets blaming Trump demanding gun control. So if the shootings aren't coordinated, the response certainly is. And the details carefully parsed/selectively reported.
This one is in the bag as "white supremacy." That's the jump if the suspect is any shade light enough. Then there's that "manifesto." And a 10 hour drive from Dallas to El Paso to find brown people? Because there are no brown people in Dallas.
What about Gilroy and the Iranian perp? What about the second suspect LE spent the entire night pursuing? Nothing.
And of course no one is allowed to review/discuss whatever mind-altering (legal or not) drugs these monsters are on.
There's no argument that the response is prepared in advance, because there will always be a "next shooting", and yes, all the candidates intend to use whatever political capital they can gain from it to further their causes. But, it's always, kinda... been that way with any disaster, large and small. Let no tragedy go to waste --- First rule of politician'n , since 11,000 B.C.
ETA: There's also little doubt that most of them (privately) celebrate this cluster of shootings for the sheer value of the political capital, and care little about the actual tragedies.
It is. I was there in early December and it is a very nice community
They had Volvo police cars back in the '80s.
Dems operate like a machine. The talking points go out and every one of them repeats the same message. Just like the messaging on the "Easter worshippers" killed by Islamic terrorists earlier this year.
Just got done to reading that manifesto. This kid seems to be confused in every direction possible.
Race mixing destroys generic diversity?
Wants less Mexicans so there is more room for Universal Health Care and automation?
The job of his dreams will be taken over by automation? Really?
I laughed at the part about preparing for a future that doesn't exist. Welcome to the experience of every single other person on the planet bucko.
The one thing that jumped out at me the most was his being empowered to action.
"The environment is getting worse by the year. If you take nothing else from this document, remember this: INACTION IS A CHOICE."
Then the idiot goes on to mis-state that his rights were endowed to him by the founding fathers to save our country. Apparently the details of why the founders built the structure of our government and where our rights actually come from were less important than 'climate change'.
The jackass was 21 years old for a whole week and he had all the answers. This has 'snowflake' written all over it.
When I'm hearing this drivel from environmentalists/politicians that the world will end in 12 years, why worry about the future? This BS is dangerous.
When I'm hearing this drivel from environmentalists/politicians that the world will end in 12 years, why worry about the future? This BS is dangerous.
Agreed there, though the exaggeration comes from all sides. There isn't a source kids are exposed to that isn't slanted in a 45 degree angle anymore. Either the world is ending in a landslide to the left, or an avalanche to the right; there's a lack of responsibility in presentation anymore. Thanks to the rise of click-generated revenue, headlines matter, accuracy and content do not. So whatever affiliation a kid has, a lot of them have a far,far darker world view than the reality of their future.
GilpinGuy
08-05-2019, 22:18
When I'm hearing this drivel from environmentalists/politicians that the world will end in 12 years, why worry about the future? This BS is dangerous.
I was a geology major in college in the late 80's and early 90's. There were a few "we'll run out of oil in 20 years" and "global warming will have Florida under water in 20 years" professors. Of course none of that happened....not even close.
But there were a few wise professors who told us to use our own heads and think things through. Some even said that many of the doomsday types say that crap to advance their own careers which is true. Glad I sided with these professors and not the doomsdayers. What a way to go through life, thinking everything sucks all the time.
I was a geology major in college in the late 80's and early 90's. There were a few "we'll run out of oil in 20 years" and "global warming will have Florida under water in 20 years" professors. Of course none of that happened....not even close.
I had economics professors that used those statistics, but made it very clear that those studies are developed with just the known (at that time) resources available with zero calculations for finding new sources, developing more efficient uses, and developing more efficient methods of extraction (retapping established wells). Just as a measure of what was currently available and how long it would last at current (at the time) usage and efficiencies. Seems like that's a pretty important distinction to make.
Elementary school in the early '70s...there's only 10-15 years of fossil fuels left and we need to prepare for the coming ice age.
Remember when we were hearing the relentless march of "peak oil"? Yeah...right. Can't define that we're running out unless you know how much there is.
Life experience tells you that these people are crack-pots with an agenda. The young don't have that going for them.
I had economics professors that used those statistics, but made it very clear that those studies are developed with just the known (at that time) resources available with zero calculations for finding new sources, developing more efficient uses, and developing more efficient methods of extraction (retapping established wells). Just as a measure of what was currently available and how long it would last at current (at the time) usage and efficiencies. Seems like that's a pretty important distinction to make.
The peak oil issue was always about easily exploitable resources, and in some respects that's largely correct. Word is Ghawar is running low, which is why the Saudis weren't able to effectively counter the development of oil tar sand and oil/natural gas resources in Canada and North Dakota.
That said, the general peak oil alarmists never did seem to properly account for (or outright discounted) the development of new technologies for exploiting tar sands, oil shale, previously abandoned wells, and new deep-drilling technologies.
The bottom line is that the costs of exploiting oil resources will continue to rise as the technologies needed to find and exploit those resources become more complex. Combine that with continued growing demand for oil, especially from the developing world, and it's pretty clear that the costs will, over the long term, rise.
By how much and for how long is anyone's guess. I think we can reasonably discount the doom and gloom crowd; hell, the primary website for covering Peak Oil related issues closed their doors six years ago, so clearly they were either flat out wrong or far too early to the party.
DavieD55
08-07-2019, 06:32
Here's something that seems kind of strange. This is a two minute video of Robert Francis O'Rourke AKA Beta O'Rourke campaigning in Las Vegas last Saturday morning as the breaking news about the shooting in El Psao, Texas started to unfold when he went to the microphone and gave a halting statement for approximately two minutes.
This is very inetresting to watch this character. At about the 30 second mark, notice the strange body language with an odd smile that looks as if he is trying to hold back from laughing out loud or something. Maybe he remmebered something funny at that point or soemthing, it's just kind of strange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7eRx5oUc2I
Singlestack
08-07-2019, 07:06
Here's something that seems kind of strange. This is a two minute video of Robert Francis O'Rourke AKA Beta O'Rourke campaigning in Las Vegas last Saturday morning as the breaking news about the shooting in El Psao, Texas started to unfold when he went to the microphone and gave a halting statement for approximately two minutes.
This is very inetresting to watch this character. At about the 30 second mark, notice the strange body language with an odd smile that looks as if he is trying to hold back from laughing out loud or something. Maybe he remmebered something funny at that point or soemthing, it's just kind of strange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7eRx5oUc2I
That was definitely odd, and he gives another smirk a few seconds later. Especially bizarre since he does have a relationship with LPaso.
Singlestack
08-07-2019, 07:15
Agreed there, though the exaggeration comes from all sides. There isn't a source kids are exposed to that isn't slanted in a 45 degree angle anymore. Either the world is ending in a landslide to the left, or an avalanche to the right; there's a lack of responsibility in presentation anymore. Thanks to the rise of click-generated revenue, headlines matter, accuracy and content do not. So whatever affiliation a kid has, a lot of them have a far,far darker world view than the reality of their future.
Your first sentence isn't my experience, at all. I have heard environmental exaggeration and doom predictions only from the left, not the right. Global Cooling/Ice Age in the 70s, global warming in the 80's/90's, and climate change in the 00's.
Some of that could be nervous smiling as he hears news that he wasn't prepared for while delivering scripted remarks.
But I highly doubt Beto has any more connection to people murdered in El Paso then Boulder Dems do their house cleaners who commute in every morning, working for low wages off-book without benefits. This is the guy who fantasied about running down kids with his car. There is something wrong with the programming...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/beto-orourke-wrote-murder-fantasy-children-was-part-of-famed-hacking-group-report
The vid of Robbie Parker laughing after Sandy Hook still gets me, that is some serious WTF. As a father who had been dealing with the news for hours, there is no way to explain that behavior. The vid has also been scrubbed from the web and no longer available on YT (AFAIK). There's a copy here (for now)...
http://vidhole.com/2017/10/sandy-hook-victims-dad-caught-laughing/
The Robbie Parker footage is definitely disturbing.
Your first sentence isn't my experience, at all. I have heard environmental exaggeration and doom predictions only from the left, not the right. Global Cooling/Ice Age in the 70s, global warming in the 80's/90's, and climate change in the 00's.
You're just numb to the things you agree with.
"Obama's going to ban all your guns, there's going to be a civil war"
"Obama's the Antichrist"
"The USA is going to be a nation of Islam before 2050"
"Whites are going to be a minority by 2025"
"Liberals have a secret child trafficking ring out of a pizza shop"
"A guy who happens to be from Russia who claims to have a Q clearance knows all the secrets of our government!"
etc.
It's a different type, but yes, the right slants facts as much as the left does, and implies a "bleak future" they just don't have as large of a platform to scream it out. That doesn't mean everyone on the right parrots the rhetoric, but then again, not everyone on the left does either. There's only parts of the left that decry the end of the world from "climate change" in 12 years. Other liberals say, "it's 1mm sea rise a year and coastal communities can adapt and protect themselves as it changes, but it does have ramifications".
As far as Beto, I'm pointing to my original comments that they don't care about the victims really - not anyone they personally know, so they are quite pleased with the potential political capital.
When he's grinning, he's probably thinking to himself "OMG, this could so help me elected. That is ironically awesome" before his brain catches up and says "YOU JACKASS THE CAMERAS CAN SEE YOUR FACE, QUICK, ACT SAD ASSHOLE"
As far as Beto, I'm pointing to my original comments that they don't care about the victims really - not anyone they personally know, so they are quite pleased with the potential political capital.
When he's grinning, he's probably thinking to himself "OMG, this could so help me elected. That is ironically awesome" before his brain catches up and says "YOU JACKASS THE CAMERAS CAN SEE YOUR FACE, QUICK, ACT SAD ASSHOLE"
The ends justify the means, even if it means people they know personally. Never underestimate their quest for power.
Great-Kazoo
08-07-2019, 17:37
You're just numb to the things you agree with.
"The USA is going to be a nation of Islam before 2050"
"Whites are going to be a minority by 2025"
.
Based on media and politicians one would think the whites are a minority, or soon to be.
As for islamic rule by 2050. being 31 years from now. Have 1/2 doz more Muslims elected and i have no doubt it will come to pass.
I thought you could self identify your race? like gender.
BOLO for heavily armed retards at your local walmart. Between copycats and retarded "I'm going to open carry wearing a vest to make all the liberals shit themselves", it might be wise to remind yourself to carry there.
Someone went into another walmart with more than one loaded rifle and some kind of vest (https://news.yahoo.com/police-man-rifle-bulletproof-vest-231603820.html)
The guy is lucky to be alive. If I see a guy with multiple rifles and a tactical vest entering a commercial store, I'm probably aiming for the lightswitch without asking any questions. There's too much of a force disparity to wait and see if it's an "open carry" idiot, and likewise to wait for response to verbal commands... if they duck /dive in response and I miss, I'm probably dead.
KevDen2005
08-08-2019, 18:09
BOLO for heavily armed retards at your local walmart. Between copycats and retarded "I'm going to open carry wearing a vest to make all the liberals shit themselves", it might be wise to remind yourself to carry there.
Someone went into another walmart with more than one loaded rifle and some kind of vest (https://news.yahoo.com/police-man-rifle-bulletproof-vest-231603820.html)
The guy is lucky to be alive. If I see a guy with multiple rifles and a tactical vest entering a commercial store, I'm probably aiming for the lightswitch without asking any questions. There's too much of a force disparity to wait and see if it's an "open carry" idiot, and likewise to wait for response to verbal commands... if they duck /dive in response and I miss, I'm probably dead.
Who knows what his intention was, but a moron all the same. Had he been there for harm, a law abiding citizen carrying a firearm was ready to intervene
Has this story already fallen out of the news cycle?
BushMasterBoy
08-11-2019, 16:39
Yeah, we are focusing on the Jeffrey murder now. Sure it was suicide(sarc), but 10 to 1 odds some medication was involved. And whoever dumped the dead rat on my front porch, I'm not scared.
Yeah, we are focusing on the Jeffrey murder now. Sure it was suicide(sarc), but 10 to 1 odds some medication was involved. And whoever dumped the dead rat on my front porch, I'm not scared.
You say that now..... Until your startled awake with the cat's paws around your neck as it takes a chunk out of your eyebrow.
JohnnyDrama
08-11-2019, 20:59
You say that now..... Until your startled awake with the cat's paws around your neck as it takes a chunk out of your eyebrow.
Sounds like my ex's cat.
Walmart to end certain gun, ammunition sales; asks shoppers not to open-carry (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/walmart-to-end-certain-gun-ammunition-sales-170821146.html)
Walmart (WMT) is proposing bold changes to its gun policy that will end sales of certain weapons, following a deadly mass shooting at one of its stores in El Paso, Texas, and an incident days earlier at another location in Southaven, Mississippi.
The retail giant will continue to cater to sportsmen and hunters, but plans to end the sale of certain types of ammunition. That includes exiting the handgun category completely, and asking shoppers not to carry firearms into its stores—even in open-carry states.
In a company-wide email, Walmart said it will discontinue sales of short-barrel rifle ammunition such as the .223 caliber and 5.56 caliber. Those are commonly used in some hunting rifles, but can also be used in large capacity clips on military-style weapons.
In addition, Walmart said it will completely exit the handgun category by ending the sale of handgun ammunition — including in Alaska, the last remaining state where they had been available.
“We know these decisions will inconvenience some of our customers, and we hope they will understand. As a company, we experienced two horrific events in one week, and we will never be the same,” CEO Doug McMillon wrote in an email.
“Our remaining assortment will be even more focused on the needs of hunting and sport shooting enthusiasts,” he added. “It will include long barrel deer rifles and shotguns, much of the ammunition they require, as well as hunting and sporting accessories and apparel.”
In the email, McMillon estimated that the new actions will reduce the company’s market share of ammunition from around 20% to a range of 6 to 9%.
“We believe it will likely drift toward the lower end of that range, over time, given the combination of these changes,” he added.
Asking shoppers not to open carry
The CEO also “respectfully” requested that shoppers no longer openly carry firearms into the stores, even in states where the law permits them to do, so unless they are authorized law enforcement officers.
Since the El Paso shooting, McMillon noted that there have been “multiple incidents” of people trying to make a statement by testing the store’s response to openly carrying weapons. One instance inadvertently caused an evacuation.
“We believe the opportunity for someone to misinterpret a situation, even in open carry states, could lead to tragic results. We hope that everyone will understand the circumstances that led to this new policy and will respect the concerns of their fellow shoppers and our associates,” McMillon wrote.
Associates will be briefed on how to communicate this policy change to customers when needed.
“We will treat law-abiding customers with respect, and we will have a very non-confrontational approach. Our priority is your safety. We will be providing new signage to help communicate this policy in the coming weeks,” McMillon added.
The policy on concealed carry permits has not changed.
I'm not sure how the ammunition is associated to barrel length.
ChickNorris
09-03-2019, 11:38
W.T.F.
Social pressure will ultimately drop the 'civilized world' it into utter chaos.
Saw in the news this morning that CVS, Walgreens, and Wegmans are following Walmart and Kroger to not allow open carry in their stores 'cuz "safety";
Walgreens, CVS, Wegmans Join Retailers In Asking Customers Not To Openly Carry Guns (https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/09/05/walgreens-joins-walmart-kroger-in-asking-customers-to-not-openly-carry-guns/#6b957533693e)
Topline: Walgreens, CVS and Wegmans changed their open carry polices Thursday and are now asking customers to refrain from bringing firearms into stores; in total, five retailers so far this month have restricted firearms in brick-and-mortar locations.
-The Walgreens statement, issued Thursday afternoon, consists of a single line: “We are joining other retailers in asking our customers to no longer openly carry firearms into our stores other than authorized law enforcement officials.”
-CVS and Wegmans followed suit within an hour of each other Thursday by tweeting their new policies.
-Walgreens is the country’s second-largest pharmacy chain, and its parent company, the Walgreens Boots Alliance, generated over $130 billion in 2018 revenue.
-All of the retailers’ revised open carry policies mirrors the ones issued by Kroger and Walmart earlier this week.
-All state that they ask customers to refrain from openly carrying in their stores, as opposed to outright banning them from doing so.
Anyone think the stores and customers in rural communities are just gonna ignore this BS?
Also, don't they think this through?
OC not illegal in state/jurisdiction.
Customers "asked to refrain..."
1st customer OC anyway
2nd customer freaks out because "gun!" and things turn ugly from there.
Should be 2nd customer is informed that what the OC'er is doing is perfectly legal. /END
...but feels/ignorance reign supreme.
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