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davsel
10-08-2019, 22:03
Haven't seen much talk of this in the news.


https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls)

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=237005


Here We Go Again
2019-10-05 09:25 by Karl Denninger


Yeah, they say, it's all angry white men doing all the murdering.

Uh, no.

75% of the American population is white by last count, ~12.5% Hispanic, ~12.3% black and 3.6% Asian, roughly. Those are the major represented groups.

So it lines up like this:

75% of the population committed 3,308 murders.

12.5% of the population committed 1,576 murders.

And finally, 12.3% of the population committed 6,318 murders.

Adjusting for population the absolute murder ratios (lower is less-likely to murder) were 4,410.67, 12,608 and 51,365.

Taking the lowest likelihood to murder as the "baseline" (white people) as "1" if you're Hispanic you're 2.86 times more likely to murder and if you're black you're 11.65 times more-likely to do so.

This ignores the "unknown" (unsolved) murders, of which there are many. But it is a pretty good bet that the division doesn't change much in that regard.

For sex you're 7.14 times more likely to murder if you're male than female. Big shock.

Cut the crap folks -- right now -- when it comes to the "nasty white dude" nonsense.

It simply is not true -- not even close.

Then there's weapons.

6,603 murders by pistol, 297 by rifle, 235 by shotgun and 3,130 by gun but type not specified.

However, 1,515 were by knife and 672 by hands, feet, and other human instruments (e.g. pushed off bridge)

In other words before you ban "nasty black rifles" you need to ban both knives and fists.

Incidentally you'd think that if you don't want to be murdered stay out of the cities. All but 3,268 murders were committed in one. If you stay out of non-suburban cities as well then there are only 684 murders left. Roughly 16.4 million people live there however -- and when you adjust for population the risk isn't that much lower.

In other words "diversity" matters much more than location. Another inconvenient truth.

None of this fits the narrative, of course..... so you can expect the slime to ignore it.

But facts just are, and since it's your ass maybe you shouldn't ignore it.



- Why I left the city

beast556
10-08-2019, 22:15
Get out of here with your facts, feelings are what matters now. Get with the program man.

Rucker61
10-08-2019, 22:17
It's not "white men committing murder"; it's "white men committing mass shootings".


Nearly all mass shooters are men. White men are about 60% of all men. White men are about 60% of mass shooters. It’s purely demographics.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/27/us/mass-shootings/index.html
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/oct/06/newsweek/are-white-males-responsible-more-mass-shootings-an/

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/10/what-the-white-mass-shooter-myth-gets-right-and-wrong-about-killers-demographics.html

Great-Kazoo
10-08-2019, 22:42
I posted this in the pwt thread, nut feel it's good here, as well



Democrats are so obsessed with Impeaching Trump.


There hasn't been a mass shooting the last few weeks.

Gman
10-09-2019, 10:10
This is what is running in the MSM:

Study: U.S. Gun Deaths Surge, Except for Two States With Restrictive Gun Laws (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/study-us-gun-deaths-surge-except-for-two-states-with-restrictive-gun-laws/ar-AAItzgY)

U.S. gun deaths have have surged over the last several years, according to a new study published in the journal Health Affairs.

Since 1999, researchers from the University of Michigan found that the annual rate of people killed by firearms had remained relatively stable, hovering around 10.4 deaths per 100,000. But from 2015 to 2017, a new pattern emerged, and the rate began to skyrocket, ultimately increasing by around 14 percent over the previous 15 years.

Nearly one-fifth of all people living in the United States who died at the hands of a firearm since 1999 were killed over a three-year period.

The study reported that only two states, California and New York, and the District of Columbia saw firearm mortality rates decline in recent years. This is notable considering these jurisdictions' relatively strict gun laws.

New York observes several key restrictions on gun ownership that severely curtail access to firearms. The state outlaws the possession of so-called "assault weapons," a category of military-style semi-automatic rifle that was dramatically expanded in 2013 with the passage of the NY SAFE Act in 2013. That legislation also implemented universal background checks for private sales and strengthened safe storage requirements.

In 2016, California enacted a statewide ban on the possession of high-capacity magazines, defined as holding more than 10 cartridges. A federal judge recently upended the ban, which extends back to an initial 2000-era law that prohibited future sales, but that ruling has been put on hold as the case moves through the appeals process.

Some states noted for their restrictive gun laws did not see reductions in firearm mortality similar to those achieved in New York, California and D.C.

After the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2013, Connecticut enacted a sweeping package of gun control legislation, expanding the ban on assault weapons and limiting magazine capacity. While the state saw a decrease in firearm mortality, it was less pronounced than that of California and New York.

Massachusetts, which has strong gun laws including purchaser permitting and school safety measures, did not see a decrease in rates of gun deaths. In fact, the state's firearm mortality rates increased during the periods studied.

Rates of firearm-related suicide rose even faster than the overall increases. Suicide rates increased by 16 percent during the three-year period beginning in 2015, according to the study. The trendlines for firearm deaths do not track with data on suicide overall, which shows a steady increase in the rate from 1999 to 2017, according to the Centers for Disease Control. This implies that in recent years firearms are increasingly becoming the method of choice for people who wish to take their own lives.

Guns are already the deadliest mechanism of suicide, with nearly 83 percent of attempted suicides reaching completion when carried out with a firearm, one 2000 study found.

Suicides comprise the vast majority of gun deaths, too. Around 60 percent of people who are killed by guns are individuals who take their own life, CDC data showed.

The only demographic group that saw mortality rates from firearms decline in recent years were white Hispanics, the University of Michigan study found. Whites without Hispanic heritage, blacks and Native Americans all saw firearm death rates surge since 2015.

DenverGP
10-09-2019, 10:18
https://i.imgur.com/OJYZhLr.jpg

BushMasterBoy
10-09-2019, 10:22
Most murderers are in in the 20 to 24 age group. Depressing fact.

Gman
10-09-2019, 10:51
Most murderers are in in the 20 to 24 age group. Depressing fact.
Protecting your drug turf is risky.

O2HeN2
10-09-2019, 10:52
This is what is running in the MSM:

Study: U.S. Gun Deaths Surge, Except for Two States With Restrictive Gun Laws (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/study-us-gun-deaths-surge-except-for-two-states-with-restrictive-gun-laws/ar-AAItzgY)

Note the conflicting information that they themselves present, then ignore:

"The study reported that only two states, California and New York, and the District of Columbia saw firearm mortality rates decline in recent years. This is notable considering these jurisdictions' relatively strict gun laws."

"Massachusetts, which has strong gun laws including purchaser permitting and school safety measures, did not see a decrease in rates of gun deaths. In fact, the state's firearm mortality rates increased during the periods studied."

So states with restrictive gun laws saw both increases and decreases in the murder rate. Which tells you... Absolutely nothing.

I expect that as this OpEd masquerading as news is copied to other news outlets the conflicting information will be edited out.

O2

O2HeN2
10-09-2019, 10:56
https://i.imgur.com/OJYZhLr.jpg

By any chance is there a key for this? Name, location, people shot?

O2

Gman
10-09-2019, 10:56
Note the conflicting information that they themselves present, then ignore:

"The study reported that only two states, California and New York, and the District of Columbia saw firearm mortality rates decline in recent years. This is notable considering these jurisdictions' relatively strict gun laws."

"Massachusetts, which has strong gun laws including purchaser permitting and school safety measures, did not see a decrease in rates of gun deaths. In fact, the state's firearm mortality rates increased during the periods studied."

So states with restrictive gun laws saw both increases and decreases in the murder rate. Which tells you... Absolutely nothing.

I expect that as this OpEd masquerading as news is copied to other news outlets the conflicting information will be edited out.

O2

The low-information voters just read the headlines.

Irving
10-09-2019, 10:59
By any chance is there a key for this? Name, location, people shot?

O2

I thought there was, but I can't remember who first posted it to this board.

DeadElephant
10-09-2019, 13:52
Snopes had to reluctantly agree that this was generally true with a lot of caveats. Snopes has taken very left leaning angles on many of the items I've looked at there.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mass-shooter-shooting-mugshots/