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spittoon
10-26-2019, 21:32
THE President will make a special address at 7:am Sunday. I believe it is on the killing of the ISIS leader. anyone have an in.
Zundfolge
10-26-2019, 21:35
I really really hope its the announcement of an arrest warrant issued for Hillary Clinton ... but I doubt it.
spittoon
10-26-2019, 21:36
x2 that would be justice
Lemme guess.. in his great and unassailable wisdom while shittering, he has decided to withdraw US forces from all Starbucks locations, and cede them to Russia.
OtterbatHellcat
10-26-2019, 23:10
I hope it's an announcement about turning the middle east into a sheet of glass.
buffalobo
10-26-2019, 23:15
Lemme guess.. in his great and unassailable wisdom while shittering, he has decided to withdraw US forces from all Starbucks locations, and cede them to Russia.Gimme couple days to unload my shares.
If you're unarmed, you are a victim.
He is resigning and Pence will be the new POTUS.
GilpinGuy
10-27-2019, 00:37
It doesn't deserve it's own thread, so I'll ask here. What is this nonsense I here about Trump saying he wants a wall at the southern border of CO? I'm so disconnected from politics these day, but this little tidbit sounded amusing.
It doesn't deserve it's own thread, so I'll ask here. What is this nonsense I here about Trump saying he wants a wall at the southern border of CO? I'm so disconnected from politics these day, but this little tidbit sounded amusing.
He made a remark and every potato journalist picked up on it. Then he said on Twitter that he was joking.
---Side note--- Every article headline I saw said something like "Trump said he's building a wall in Colorado: a state that doesn't border Mexico." This indicates both how stupid they think Trump is, and how stupid they think the reader is.
BushMasterBoy
10-27-2019, 05:35
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kidicarus13
10-27-2019, 08:07
79227That picture does not depict "Al-Baghdadi was chased?by dogs down a dead-end tunnel and detonated an explosive vest, killing himself and three children that he had dragged with him, Trump said."
Problem with a trump announcement is we'll probably never know the truth, other than US forces credibly believe they killed Baghdadi. I wouldn't doubt he made the announcement with little info and before confirmation was/is in. I have about 1% faith in the credibility of every other assertion of Trump beyond the fact the guy was killed (probably by US forces). It's just a factor of his personality disorder.
Guy could've took a random round to the chest from a Syrian homie, but Trump has to turn it into a D- rated 1980's hollywood flick where the cool guys don't look at explosions, the bag guys whimper, and the cool guys have catch phrases before they put on their sunglasses.
Problem with a trump announcement is we'll probably never know the truth, other than US forces credibly believe they killed Baghdadi. I wouldn't doubt he made the announcement with little info and before confirmation was/is in. I have about 1% faith in the credibility of every other assertion of Trump beyond the fact the guy was killed (probably by US forces). It's just a factor of his personality disorder.
Guy could've took a random round to the chest from a Syrian homie, but Trump has to turn it into a D- rated 1980's hollywood flick where the cool guys don't look at explosions, the bag guys whimper, and the cool guys have catch phrases before they put on their sunglasses.
At least you're not bitter.
At least you're not bitter.
Eh, "the force" needs some balance from all the cult worship. I've even seen some recently claiming that if e.g. Christians don't vote for Trump, "God will hold them accountable". I guess I missed the announcement where Trump became pope...
Those segments of the right as just as psychotic as the ultra-progressive left, and Trump is correct in his assertions that he could murder someone and still have their support. He's a NY Democrat for f's sake, and a true cluster-b narcissist. People are really that easy to manipulate. But it's not bitterness... I don't kiss boots nor bow to pressure of either side, and I'm not afraid to offend either ;-p
There's the 'cluster-b' reference I was waiting for. I knew it was in there somewhere.
JohnnyDrama
10-27-2019, 09:39
The biggest problem here is that "we" see dead bad guys. "They" see martyrs. How long will it be before someone else steps up to take this guys place?
Bailey Guns
10-27-2019, 10:20
Eh, "the force" needs some balance from all the cult worship. I've even seen some recently claiming that if e.g. Christians don't vote for Trump, "God will hold them accountable". I guess I missed the announcement where Trump became pope...
Those segments of the right as just as psychotic as the ultra-progressive left, and Trump is correct in his assertions that he could murder someone and still have their support. He's a NY Democrat for f's sake, and a true cluster-b narcissist. People are really that easy to manipulate. But it's not bitterness... I don't kiss boots nor bow to pressure of either side, and I'm not afraid to offend either ;-p
Man...we must live on entirely different planets.
Bailey Guns
10-27-2019, 10:24
The biggest problem here is that "we" see dead bad guys. "They" see martyrs. How long will it be before someone else steps up to take this guys place?
I don't discount the fact that perhaps some are drawn to the fight by what they see as American aggression or what have you. I do think that argument is WAY overstated, though.
We've killed a metric shit ton of these guys. Yeah, someone steps up. Then they get killed. Wash, rinse, repeat. Every time it seems to me the replacement is a little less powerful and has less influence over fewer followers. They also have far fewer places to hide. The problems is not that we're killing them and creating more, the problem is it's gonna be difficult to keep up this level of pressure on their organizations for more than a relatively short time. It's gonna take generations.
Zundfolge
10-27-2019, 10:27
The biggest problem here is that "we" see dead bad guys. "They" see martyrs. How long will it be before someone else steps up to take this guys place?
You're absolutely right, we should just give up, stop fighting them, convert to Islam and rip our daughters clitorises out with dull knives. Anything less might make them angry at us.
Rucker61
10-27-2019, 10:36
Eh, "the force" needs some balance from all the cult worship. I've even seen some recently claiming that if e.g. Christians don't vote for Trump, "God will hold them accountable". I guess I missed the announcement where Trump became pope...
Those segments of the right as just as psychotic as the ultra-progressive left, and Trump is correct in his assertions that he could murder someone and still have their support. He's a NY Democrat for f's sake, and a true cluster-b narcissist. People are really that easy to manipulate. But it's not bitterness... I don't kiss boots nor bow to pressure of either side, and I'm not afraid to offend either ;-p
Where's the "like" button?
BushMasterBoy
10-27-2019, 10:45
The tango was killed by a 500 lb bomb dropped by an F-16. The blast caused damage to his lungs. Ground forces tried to revive him, but he died of his injuries. But hey, it is your lie, you can tell it anyway you want.
There's the 'cluster-b' reference I was waiting for. I knew it was in there somewhere.
LOL, there's no better example than Donald for a true-blue textbook narcissist.
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1181232249821388801?lang=en
Trump thinks he's smarter than everyone else, and even he thinks there must be a secret "stable genius" idea to piss of liberals behind every mistake he makes hidden somewhere in there. His black and white thinking is why people are the next-best-thing-to-Jesus one day, and, e.g. "the worlds most overrated general the next". They don't know enemies nor friends, love nor hate, no higher emotions. They praise people and stab them in the back. He was Hillary's friend in the past, then her enemy, he wouldn't think twice about being her BFF if it suited his means to the end.
That's what they do....
Still, I voted for him for one reason only. SCOTUS.
I don't discount the fact that perhaps some are drawn to the fight by what they see as American aggression or what have you. I do think that argument is WAY overstated, though.
We've killed a metric shit ton of these guys. Yeah, someone steps up. Then they get killed. Wash, rinse, repeat. Every time it seems to me the replacement is a little less powerful and has less influence over fewer followers. They also have far fewer places to hide. The problems is not that we're killing them and creating more, the problem is it's gonna be difficult to keep up this level of pressure on their organizations for more than a relatively short time. It's gonna take generations.
The underlying problem is we tried to democratize people who can't be democratized because their society is corrupt through-and-through.
Contrast the cartel problem in Mexico - police are corrupt, gov'ts corrupt, courts are corrupt, bribes everywhere, cartel is the de-facto justice in some areas. Even if we went "to war with mexico" and replaced their government, the people and their culture of corruption remain. The middle east is, was, and still is even worse then that, because not only do you layer the societal corruption, you embed it into religion with heavy elements of peer pressure.
The basic solution in the middle east is you need either despots / dictators ruling with an iron fist (and ignore the atrocities) - that is what their culture is accustomed to - or you have to embed so much money in the system and continue supplying it that you rule the equivalent of the "cartel" and there's more money to be had being "on your side" than "the other guys" which has been our strategy for awhile. That's almost all it boils down to.
It's hard to say if, when, or will it ever get better there, because as children grow up in that system they become accustomed to it, and then become it. There's no easy break to the cycle even if you go replacing gov'ts - and the American "democracy" experiment of the religious cartel resulted in even more people dying than would've if we just left things be. If we want to talk about human costs - lives lost, economic, displacement, refugees, etc. - Assad should've kept ruling Syria. Russia, actually, is on the "right" side of that war insofar as the lesser of two evils is concerned. And maybe even Saddam should've kept ruling Iraq. That doesn't necessarily align with U.S. interests though. If the Syrian "rebels" ever prevailed - of which there is little distinguishing between them and the Syrian ISIS beyond calling each a "sect", the net result would have plunged Syria into even a worse situation. Those societies do not do well in power vacuums, ISIS or anything like it will always come about - "religious cartels". Our support of the "civil war" resulted in many more deaths than would've happened and even ISIS - tragically - than would've happened if we just let Assad squish it early in the first place.
People in the Middle East have been killing each other over whose imaginary friend is the One True God for thousands of years. Our involvement in those conflicts only has a limited and temporary effect. The best we can hope for is containment.
bellavite1
10-27-2019, 12:58
People have been killing each other over whose imaginary friend is the One True God for thousands of years. Our involvement in those conflicts only has a limited and temporary effect. The best we can hope for is containment.
FIFY
I don't discount the fact that perhaps some are drawn to the fight by what they see as American aggression or what have you. I do think that argument is WAY overstated, though.
We've killed a metric shit ton of these guys. Yeah, someone steps up. Then they get killed. Wash, rinse, repeat. Every time it seems to me the replacement is a little less powerful and has less influence over fewer followers. They also have far fewer places to hide. The problems is not that we're killing them and creating more, the problem is it's gonna be difficult to keep up this level of pressure on their organizations for more than a relatively short time. It's gonna take generations.
It's the usual process that's cycled through several times already in history. They rise up to take over the world, the world beats them back under the rock they crawled out from, and in a couple hundred years or so it repeats. There's no reasoning with them, so the 'martyr' concept doesn't hold water. The only thing they understand is overwhelming force to reduce their numbers.
OtterbatHellcat
10-27-2019, 19:20
Hey...the glass thing.
Let's get on that, and glad hand each other for months about it.
:)
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