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Drilldov2.0
11-06-2019, 10:56
Hey all,
I am looking for some recommendations on spare fuel cans for diesel. Which do you all prefer? I am looking for 5+ gallons and leaning toward a jerry can. I run a 2500 Ram HD diesel. Height is important since I have a diamond back cover on my truck bed. It's important in the environment I work in. Oilfield, outside, mostly in Wyoming and North Dakota. Thanks for your input and experiences.
Scepter MFC
(and get the JAGMTE wrench for the lid)
newracer
11-06-2019, 11:29
Scepter MFC
(and get the JAGMTE wrench for the lid)
Hard to find and expensive when you do. Although they are great cans, I have two.
If you want decent cans that aren't the price of spectres get the NATO surplus ones. The Chinese copies are not nearly as good, the lining comes off and the seam is not recessed, they are a pale green vs forest green, the swedish ones have a tag system for identifying contents. A load bar fits inside the handle so you can secure one or a whole row of them
The red metal can from harbor freight is superior to the Chinese NATO copies but again the lining comes off.
Every single Jerry can I've come across is rusty inside.
That being said why not have a small transfer tank toolbox combo? Filling with a 5 gallon sucks and keeping spare fluids in the cab is messy. Also anti gel or winterizing agent smells terrible.
BIL tows his gooseneck trailer often with his F350. He went the bed mounted external tank route for increased range. External tank automatically refills the internal tank. The trick there is compatibility with your diamond back bed cover.
StagLefty
11-06-2019, 14:23
Just watched this yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBH58NioHSE
They are expensive but I wouldn't trade my good NATO / wavian / valpro etc. style cans. I have several 20L (the normal size), but honestly really like the 10L and 5L cans and they're shorter so they may be an option for you if the normal size is too tall or doesn't fit. I waited for a sale and bought several at once for myself and a family member or two. Guessing I paid maybe $40 per can including shipping - less for the smaller ones. Side note but I've had non-eth gas sit in those cans for years and still work wonderful in small engines, etc. Just be careful when you pop that airtight seal to open one as they'll splash easy if you're not paying attention. :)
Sceptres are great too.
Check these guys out, when researching a while back they were recommended. Not sure if price/availability is still as good today.
And no, I don’t have any model of Rover :)
https://www.roverparts.com/Promotional/jerry-cans/
Check these guys out, when researching a while back they were recommended. Not sure if price/availability is still as good today.
And no, I don’t have any model of Rover :)
https://www.roverparts.com/Promotional/jerry-cans/
LOL that was probably me. Yes, these guys are great. BTW, roverparts.com = Atlantic British. Sometimes they sell as AB on amazon, but I've found better prices by talking to them direct. I'm extremely happy with the products and the service I've received from them, over several different years/orders.
Drilldov2.0
11-06-2019, 16:50
Wow, you all are awesome! I am going to check measurements, I may have a friend in Canada who can get new scepter 20ls. I have thought about a transfer tank, Mr. Wolf. plumbed into main with a switch in the cab so I can use red But, I have a quad cab and 6.4 bed. So I would like the extra space and fuel cans can be moved around, also I have a DB cover over my bed.
Just watched this yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBH58NioHSE
I watched that and then watched the follow-up. Wavian has some 'splaining to do.
http://youtu.be/P8ALZrrvplA
Which one is the follow-up?
Which one is the follow-up?
The one I posted where he cut them open to see what was on the inside.
Wow, you all are awesome! I am going to check measurements, I may have a friend in Canada who can get new scepter 20ls. I have thought about a transfer tank, Mr. Wolf. plumbed into main with a switch in the cab so I can use red But, I have a quad cab and 6.4 bed. So I would like the extra space and fuel cans can be moved around, also I have a DB cover over my bed.
My 2500 dodge has a 50 gallon tank plumbed in. I built a bracket for it so it sits about 6 inches over the bed so I can slide sheets under it since it's a short bed. My f250 has an L tank with a pump. Since I own equipment that is also diesel I prefer the pump
Transferflow makes tanks that can be plumbed in and/or have a pump that fit under a cover
Careful running red. State troopers are known to dip tanks. You loose your truck right then and there. Hypothetically speaking it wouldn't be possible to determine if you had red if you put the oil from your crank case into the tank, it would also significantly help lubricity if you have a pump designed for sulphur diesel. Otherwise I throw in 2 stroke oil for lubrication but my 12 valve really doesn't care what you feed it.
I use the motocross style plastic tanks, super fast fill, easy to lug around, can get 6 gallons in at a time.
Mostly just use them for my tractor but occasionally toss them in the back of the truck on long hunting trips when we might be way out somewhere far from a station.
JohnnyEgo
11-06-2019, 21:48
I have the fancy Rotopax cans, and I have mixed feelings about them. The mounts are excellent. The spouts seal up tight and don't leak, regardless of position. However, to do that, they are unvented. So the cans swell a lot, particularly in the summer, if you don't vent them on a daily basis, sometimes multiple times throughout the day. Mine lasted about five years before they developed leaks near the seams of the bottom locking mechanism. I believe it was a combination of the mount and all of the torquing out of shape over several seasons. Rotopax replaced them under warranty with two brand new cans, and I still think nothing beats their modularity and form factor. But they are very expensive for what they are, and I wish they lasted longer.
XC700116
11-06-2019, 22:14
I use the motocross style plastic tanks, super fast fill, easy to lug around, can get 6 gallons in at a time.
Mostly just use them for my tractor but occasionally toss them in the back of the truck on long hunting trips when we might be way out somewhere far from a station.
This^^^^ I prefer the Scribner Brand and they are by far the best fuel cans I've ever used. Nice square shape for tying them into the front of a pickup bed or along any flat surface. The lid seals hold up better and don't get stuck like the ones with the O-ring seal. They are VERY heavy duty and don't leak. If you get them, you have to pierce the vent caps yourself. To do it, use a #2 Phillips screwdriver and they will vent plenty and it makes for a better seal on the vent than drilling or cutting out the center of the vent.
http://www.scribnerplastics.com/utility-jugs.html
I have the fancy Rotopax cans, and I have mixed feelings about them. The mounts are excellent. The spouts seal up tight and don't leak, regardless of position. However, to do that, they are unvented. So the cans swell a lot, particularly in the summer, if you don't vent them on a daily basis, sometimes multiple times throughout the day. Mine lasted about five years before they developed leaks near the seams of the bottom locking mechanism. I believe it was a combination of the mount and all of the torquing out of shape over several seasons. Rotopax replaced them under warranty with two brand new cans, and I still think nothing beats their modularity and form factor. But they are very expensive for what they are, and I wish they lasted longer.
Were you using them for diesel or gas? They're one of the few types of fuel transportation I haven't used personally.
For motocross cans I much prefer ones with two handles
https://www.amazon.com/Pit-Posse-Gallon-Utility-Racing/dp/B008AZK93K/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?keywords=offroad+fuel+can+two+hand les&qid=1573100578&sr=8-17
colorider
11-06-2019, 23:14
I'm one who does not like the motocross style cans. I constantly struggle with the spout. Too rigid and it is a beotch to get it into my bike's, generator's truck's fuel tank opening. I always end up pouring gas all over the place. I like being able to get 2 hands on the fuel can and have a flex spout or curved spout that makes pouring easier. Oh, 3 of my buddies have had the VP brand mx fuel cans split at the seam after one year. So avoid that brand.
I'd like to go back to steel cans. I bought regular store plastic ones and I hate them.
I'm one who does not like the motocross style cans. I constantly struggle with the spout. Too rigid and it is a beotch to get it into my bike's, generator's truck's fuel tank opening. I always end up pouring gas all over the place. I like being able to get 2 hands on the fuel can and have a flex spout or curved spout that makes pouring easier. Oh, 3 of my buddies have had the VP brand mx fuel cans split at the seam after one year. So avoid that brand.
Not perfect, but better.
Hose Bender
(https://www.amazon.com/LC-Utility-Container-Bender-30-1200/dp/B00SJWUGEG/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/140-2678428-6257862?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00SJWUGEG&pd_rd_r=40fac196-1eb5-4cfc-bf70-8799c20dac24&pd_rd_w=iJxg7&pd_rd_wg=CEGnb&pf_rd_p=09627863-9889-4290-b90a-5e9f86682449&pf_rd_r=8P1NQ8QTNET6MYC3614Q&psc=1&refRID=8P1NQ8QTNET6MYC3614Q)
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51sPffmt7NL._SL1000_.jpg
Drilldov2.0
11-07-2019, 13:46
My 2500 dodge has a 50 gallon tank plumbed in. I built a bracket for it so it sits about 6 inches over the bed so I can slide sheets under it since it's a short bed. My f250 has an L tank with a pump. Since I own equipment that is also diesel I prefer the pump
Transferflow makes tanks that can be plumbed in and/or have a pump that fit under a cover
Careful running red. State troopers are known to dip tanks. You loose your truck right then and there. Hypothetically speaking it wouldn't be possible to determine if you had red if you put the oil from your crank case into the tank, it would also significantly help lubricity if you have a pump designed for sulphur diesel. Otherwise I throw in 2 stroke oil for lubrication but my 12 valve really doesn't care what you feed it.
It's a $10/gal or $1000 fine in most places. Not your truck. Working in the oilfield for 20+ years I have never seen anyone who got a fine. Some of the guys with transfer tanks told me they have a switch to go from transfer to main and idling will for a minute will clear the lines. I am not advocating breaking the law by any means. I looked at the transferflow tanks, they are bulky for what I need. I appreciate the input. Thank you.
scratchy
11-07-2019, 20:38
I have several wavians. So far, I'm pretty damn happy with them
JohnnyEgo
11-08-2019, 08:03
Were you using them for diesel or gas? They're one of the few types of fuel transportation I haven't used personally.
For motocross cans I much prefer ones with two handles
https://www.amazon.com/Pit-Posse-Gallon-Utility-Racing/dp/B008AZK93K/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?keywords=offroad+fuel+can+two+hand les&qid=1573100578&sr=8-17
I am running them for gas. I have two of the 2.5 gallon cans, and one of the long 5 gallon cans, as well as a water carrier. What I like about them is that they are very slim and can be mounted in several orientations. What I don't like about them is that three of the four have had to be replaced, though within warranty and free of charge, for developing leaks at the seams after a few years.
Despite their portability and unobtrusiveness, I will probably switch to something else when/if the replacements develop seam leaks. I'd probably go in the exact opposite direction and get a JustRite can. Big and heavy, but it doesn't leak.
https://www.johnnyego.com/photography/titan/rnbdivider/rotopax01.JPG
https://www.johnnyego.com/photography/glacier/glacier128.JPG
For long term storage I've been using the red plastic ones with an after-market spout and gasket. I don't cart them around or beat them up, but they seem to work alright.
Drilldov2.0
11-10-2019, 13:25
Which bed mounting rack is that under your cover, JohnnyEgo?
GilpinGuy
11-10-2019, 21:16
Get a marine primer bulb and a few feet of fuel line and you'll never spill fuel again. So easy. Start the flow, walk away and do other things for 10 minutes. Come back and the can is empty.
I use cheapo 5 gallon platic cans for extra fuel storage and this works awesome. Of course my cans aren't transported anywhere. Just left in a shed and one can is rotated out each month.
JohnnyEgo
11-10-2019, 21:29
Hey there. If you are referring to the rails, that is the Nissan Util-I-Trac cargo management system, from the factory. It is absolutely fantastic. The rails are compatible with off-the-shelf Unistrut and Cantruss hardware, so you can damn-near bolt anything to anything with a couple Cantruss nuts and standard bolts. Best part of the truck, next to the engine and transmission. Though pretty much everything else sucks, particularly the interior plastics.
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