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electronman1729
11-28-2019, 18:27
Well this just sucks. I had my hopes up for getting a few tax stamps back before the end of the year.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/exclusive-atf-kills-program-fast-tracked-nfa-items/?fbclid=IwAR0eV3YnWH7BbErc7muDVy0lp6F2i5cv0EBrfcRb 9X0ki0e_iCfnP9KrP8E
spqrzilla
11-28-2019, 18:40
Bad link
electronman1729
11-28-2019, 19:02
Bad link

Try now!
buffalobo
11-28-2019, 20:54
Bummer.

The NFA, worlds biggest boondoggle.
electronman1729
11-28-2019, 20:56
Bummer.

The NFA, worlds biggest boondoggle.

Don't forget unconstitutional as well
brutal
11-28-2019, 21:03
Well fuck. As usual, we eat our own.

People with trusts were apparently complaining to the ATF.

I wasn't happy I had to wait 402 days, but I'm not going to burn a fellow NFA'er over it.

That said, why they can't scan and AI/computerize more of this is beyond comprehension. If they can fast track individuals, why can't they fast track trusts - particularly those that have been approved at least once before and haven't made ANY changes to the trust other than a new Schedule A. For that matter, we should also be able to e-file form 4's.
Little Dutch
11-28-2019, 23:22
What a mess.
Irving
11-28-2019, 23:41
This is going to cause wait times to spike, I think. I think they'll reach 15 months before they fix it.
Gman
11-29-2019, 01:02
This is going to cause wait times to spike, I think. I think they'll reach 15 months before they fix it.

What incentive do they have to "fix it"?
buffalobo
11-29-2019, 09:22
Over the top fukkin stupid.[blaster]
ray1970
11-29-2019, 09:42
Government can't do anything too efficiently because it sets a standard and would be expected.
Eric P
11-29-2019, 10:16
Gun stores should be going this and collecting the stamp money.

Whst does the NFA check that's not checked on a normal gun buy check?
O2HeN2
11-29-2019, 11:09
The simplist thing that the ATF could do is to catalog all incoming applications and when an application get approved, pull ALL the other applications that are in the pipe for that one person/trust and approve them at the same time, instead of dong the same time consuming process for all of them, one by one.

In other words, if I submit a stamp today, three months from now, six months from now and a year from now and I get approved 14 months after my first application, I get all four stamps approved, all at once.

This would have the effect of clearing out a HUGE backlog and in the long run reduce turnaround time because they'd be clearing out the backlong as they handle the oldest requests.

But no....

O2
Gman
11-29-2019, 12:13
Get out of here with that logic and efficiency.

The only thing the government is efficient with is wasting our money.
vossman
11-29-2019, 12:35
The simplist thing that the ATF could do is to catalog all incoming applications and when an application get approved, pull ALL the other applications that are in the pipe for that one person/trust and approve them at the same time, instead of dong the same time consuming process for all of them, one by one.

In other words, if I submit a stamp today, three months from now, six months from now and a year from now and I get approved 14 months after my first application, I get all four stamps approved, all at once.

This would have the effect of clearing out a HUGE backlog and in the long run reduce turnaround time because they'd be clearing out the backlong as they handle the oldest requests.

But no....

O2

Now that’s a good idea.
Jer
11-29-2019, 18:41
The simplist thing that the ATF could do is to catalog all incoming applications and when an application get approved, pull ALL the other applications that are in the pipe for that one person/trust and approve them at the same time, instead of dong the same time consuming process for all of them, one by one.

In other words, if I submit a stamp today, three months from now, six months from now and a year from now and I get approved 14 months after my first application, I get all four stamps approved, all at once.

This would have the effect of clearing out a HUGE backlog and in the long run reduce turnaround time because they'd be clearing out the backlong as they handle the oldest requests.

But no....

O2

I think they're attempting to do something akin to this unofficially. They're just effing it up which should come as no surprise.

I know of a guy (notice I didn't say I knew him directly in case "they're" monitoring?) who had well in excess of a dozen pending. His last few went in many months after my first of four. Before I got my first back he got all of them at once. I still waited for my for to trickle their way in one at a time over several months (years?)
Rucker61
12-05-2019, 20:53
This sucks so badly, as I wait for ATF to cash my check :(
Irving
12-05-2019, 21:05
The logo for the Fast Track program must have been a friendly dog.
brutal
12-05-2019, 22:04
The logo for the Fast Track program must have been a friendly dog.

Bullet free?
Aloha_Shooter
12-12-2019, 17:06
Be careful what you wish for. The more automated the process is, the more information is stored in the vast government cloud. The more consistent the process is, the less flexibility examiners have. In some respects, I don't mind the ATF's files looking like the big warehouse at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark".