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Mtneer
11-29-2019, 13:51
Now that I finally have a suppressor for my Glock 17, I'm looking at HD ammo and suspect I may have a problem. For my altitude (6700 ft), speed of sound is about 1090 fps. I have 300 rounds of Federal 147g HST +P that I bought several years ago. It's rated at 1050 fps out of a 4" barrel but I have a 5" barrel so that adds about 50 fps. Hence I think this ammo is just over the sonic crack limit. Alas, I can't test around here (at least at room temp).

I'll buy some good ammo I'm sure will stay subsonic. But am I correct in thinking the stuff I have now is too hot and defeats the point of a suppressor?

Gman
11-29-2019, 14:19
The 147g HST non-+P perform quite well. Have you given that some thought?


http://youtu.be/K3VfWkWMzOI

http://youtu.be/oM2AJm9VhYM

Tim K
11-29-2019, 15:53
For ultimate quiet, yes supersonic ammo is not ideal. Still gonna be a good deal quieter through the can, though.

whitewalrus
11-29-2019, 16:05
Should still help a lot to bring the noise down. Subsonic will be the most quiet you can get, so you may want to look at the standard pressure load like Gman mentions. But I wouldn't stress over it if you have plenty of the +P.

ray1970
11-29-2019, 16:23
For ultimate quiet, yes supersonic ammo is not ideal. Still gonna be a good deal quieter through the can, though.


Should still help a lot to bring the noise down. Subsonic will be the most quiet you can get, so you may want to look at the standard pressure load like Gman mentions. But I wouldn't stress over it if you have plenty of the +P.

What they said. Suppressing even high velocity stuff takes a lot of the bark away.

I have very little experience shooting suppressed but I've mostly shot 5.56 and 7.62x51 and even those rifle calibers at normal velocities were much more enjoyable suppressed.

Mtneer
11-29-2019, 19:47
Cool, thanks guys. I'll pick up some standard pressure and keep the +P in reserve. The hot stuff is probably subsonic at Denver altitude and certainly if I go lower, just not up here. Probably overthinking this but that's what nerds do ;-)

Zcsdkr
11-29-2019, 20:03
Is not speed of sound mostly dependent upon temperature and a tiny bit on humidity?

00tec
11-29-2019, 20:57
Is not speed of sound mostly dependent upon temperature and a tiny bit on humidity?

Speed of sound depends on density. Barometric pressure (including the lack of pressure at altitude), temp, and humidity can all change the speed of sound.

Jayhawk
11-29-2019, 21:19
Then Speed of sound is mostly effected by temperature, my E-6B flight computer aka, wiz wheel will prove, also my college aerodynamics class.