Python coming back?

[vossman]

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2020/1/1/new-for-2020-colt-python/?fbclid=IwAR38eeWr3sdlHBurSdCF2dQLsVv72qtXvi5UtMQ8 l_fG7sWqOyhOjAIyTQY
Not sure if this is for real but.....

[.455_Hunter]

Wow- $1,499!

[spqrzilla]

This is what Colt fans have been asking for for decades. Now I can just imagine the result, crapt execution as typical of 21st C Colt.

[Brass]

I wondered what was taking so long.

[Gman]

I wonder what that will do to pricing on the classics?

[Bailey Guns]

Now I can just imagine the result, crapt execution as typical of 21st C Colt.

My experience is exactly the opposite. I have several recently made Colts (this century) and they're all near perfect in fit and finish and are all perfect (so far) in functioning.

[spqrzilla]

That is indeed the opposite of my experience with Colt in this century.

[bczandm]

I wonder what that will do to pricing on the classics?

It will be interesting to see. I’d think it would drive the price down a bit on common guns but have limited impact on the higher end and rarer versions.

[beast556]

My wife has a python that her dad gave her years back. There is nothing really special about them. Imho the smith 686 is a way nicer gun.

[vossman]

My wife has a python that her dad gave her years back. There is nothing really special about them. Imho the smith 686 is a way nicer gun.

Blasphemy

[Zundfolge]

I guess we'll have to see if this is really a Python or just a new Cobra with the word Python stamped on it.

Part of me really wants to see Colt do it right.

[MrPrena]

Those python at gart sports around 1994 was only 600.
Its been 26 years already.
By doing "rule of idiot 20"

1200 x 4% compound price increase for 6yrs

I think $1499 is about right.

[Zundfolge]

Those python at gart sports around 1994 was only 600.
Its been 26 years already.
By doing "rule of idiot 20"

1200 x 4% compound price increase for 6yrs

I think $1499 is about right.

According to the Westegg Inflation Calculator (https://westegg.com/inflation/): What cost $600 in 1994 would cost $1026.19 in 2018. (18 is the latest year you can enter in the calculator).
So 1500 is actually a little high.

[Zundfolge]

Also, how many of you geeks saw the title and thought "3.8.1 was just released, what do you mean 'coming back' "?

[MrPrena]

According to the Westegg Inflation Calculator (https://westegg.com/inflation/): What cost $600 in 1994 would cost $1026.19 in 2018. (18 is the latest year you can enter in the calculator).
So 1500 is actually a little high.


I personally think 1500 is high now, and 600 was high 26 years ago.
For 1500 now, someone can get a real nice firearms.

as for 1500 relative to popular inflation and/or price indicies:

just doing 3.5% straight 26yrs.
(without doing 3.5 for 20, and 4% for rest of 6yrs as original post due increase in hyper money supply, etc)
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http://www.moneychimp.com/calculator/compound_interest_calculator.htm

[Gman]

Also, how many of you geeks saw the title and thought "3.8.1 was just released, what do you mean 'coming back' "?

So says the scripting weenie... [Coffee]

[brutal]

I personally think 1500 is high now, and 600 was high 26 years ago.
For 1500 now, someone can get a real nice firearms.

as for 1500 relative to popular inflation and/or price indicies:

just doing 3.5% straight 26yrs.
(without doing 3.5 for 20, and 4% for rest of 6yrs as original post due increase in hyper money supply, etc)
79792

http://www.moneychimp.com/calculator/compound_interest_calculator.htm

Why are you putting up a compound interest calculation in the context of inflationary pricing?

[MrPrena]

Used forward flat rate inflation c, because % vary by year. With this printing press , my guess would be avg of 4.5 soon.

It is like asking, the freefall doesn't have a same terminal velocity!
Answer: I KNOW.,,,,rms

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ETA: I wonder what will happen to older Colt Python in the market right now.

[T. B. Turner]

Back in the early eighties I bought a stainless Python with a 6" bbl used, in like new conditon for $350.00. Sold it for the same price. Wish I had not sold it.

[Gman]

http://youtu.be/7dO-lQEX49U

Hickok45 had a bit of a problem with it.

[Doc45]

Quite a thread on Colt Forum about issues with them as well at 1911addicts. Colt Forum even got taken in by an imposter claiming to be a Colt employee outlining the process to send them back and how Colt was working on fixing the damaged crowns and defective action. What a mess. As big a revolver guy as I am I would wait awhile-but I prefer older Smiths and they're still affordable LOL.

[Colorado Osprey]

No surprise that the Colt revolver lost timing. Unfortunately it was in the past and continues to be an issue is their design. They are pretty guns, but it is a Sunday BBQ gun to take out a and show your buddies not used and abused. Heck if time has shown us anything, just put it away and because it has the Colt name it will be worth more later when they discontinue them again and some shmoe will give you lots of money for it because of the label... Tier 1 ya know.

[Gman]

As big a revolver guy as I am I would wait awhile-but I prefer older Smiths and they're still affordable LOL.
That's me as well. I like the pre-Saf-T-Hammer S&Ws. I can't stand the zit on the side of the newer revolvers. I've also had the lock engage during use on my 1st wife's Lady Smith.

Jerry Miculek has a video going over medium frame revolvers and shoots and discusses the older Python and Ruger Speed Six. He discusses why he likes the action of the S&W and how they're so much easier to do a trigger job on since you can see all of the parts interacting with the side plate off.

[vossman]

This is disappointing.

[Fentonite]

I have many more S&W than Colt, but this old Python is still one of my favorites. Let a classic stay a classic.

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz339/fentonite/2D53F422-D559-476D-9853-B0B7301EE357_zpsbatvkoyf.jpg (http://s841.photobucket.com/user/fentonite/media/2D53F422-D559-476D-9853-B0B7301EE357_zpsbatvkoyf.jpg.html)

[Gman]

Here's a favorable review involving Ken Hackathorn:

http://youtu.be/HrLYZruNw_g

According to Hackathorn, the Python was favored by bullseye shooters that shoot single-action. Being powered by a single spring, the Python is easier to cock with your thumb.

[Doc45]

Here's just one of the many posts about problems with the new Python:
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/01/20/shot-2020-tfb-industry-day-at-the-range-colt-python/

From reading what the other owners have said on those other forums the issues seem to be mostly 2:
failure to rotate the cylinder (regardless of ammo used)
battered barrel crowns

In my book not acceptable for a $1500 +- firearm. Perhaps Colt rushed them to market too quickly? Who knows. I hope the returned guns are fixed and that new ones don't exhibit the same problems. Years ago I had a 4" (bought in 1978) and really liked it, was damn accurate but I just prefer Smiths so I sold it back then.

[longrange2]

I prefer Smiths too, but I will likely pick up a new Python when the 4.25 inch barrel models are released. I sold a beautiful 1980s python because it was too pretty to shoot and they have a reputation for shooting loose under heavy use. It had more value as a collector than a working gun so I sold it off. The new pythons have addressed these issues somewhat with a slightly beefier frame and a simplified lock work that should t shoot out of time as quickly. I hope they work out the bugs because I’d like a python that I can shoot a bunch and not worry about collector value.

[eddiememphis]

I have many more S&W than Colt, but this old Python is still one of my favorites. Let a classic stay a classic.

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz339/fentonite/2D53F422-D559-476D-9853-B0B7301EE357_zpsbatvkoyf.jpg (http://s841.photobucket.com/user/fentonite/media/2D53F422-D559-476D-9853-B0B7301EE357_zpsbatvkoyf.jpg.html)

Ooo... nice

[earplug]

Safe Queens never have issues.

[Gman]

Safe Queens never have issues.

Rust. [Coffee]