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.455_Hunter
02-08-2020, 15:09
Looking at the law, it seems such carry would be good to go.

Your thoughts?

Irving
02-08-2020, 15:44
You're either concerned about your safety enough to break the law, or you aren't.

.455_Hunter
02-08-2020, 15:57
What law would be broken?

This is carry NOT on school property.

ray1970
02-08-2020, 16:42
I?m too lazy to research it but is it just ?school property? that is strictly forbidden or does it mention anything about other school related functions?

Personally, concealed should be concealed so even if you are carrying somewhere you aren?t supposed to it?s highly likely nobody will ever know. Should things go south in a bad way and you were forced to use your firearm then that tells me that getting your pee-pee slapped for carrying where you weren?t supposed to should be a problem you are lucky to have to deal with. The alternative being obeying the rules and finding yourself dead.

.455_Hunter
02-08-2020, 17:01
(3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school;

No "function" terms that I can see. Probably not legally possible anyway. Concealed carry banned for everybody at the park just because a field trip is having lunch there? Not practical.

SideShow Bob
02-10-2020, 19:00
But does the venue for this function have metal detectors or do they wand people and search bags at the entrance ?
You may want to find that out as well.

Irving
02-10-2020, 19:08
If it's the zoo, then no they don't have any of that stuff.

battlemidget
02-11-2020, 00:02
I believe on school grounds, it must be secured in the vehicle. The firearm cannot leave your vehicle.

.455_Hunter
02-11-2020, 01:12
I believe on school grounds, it must be secured in the vehicle. The firearm cannot leave your vehicle.

Sigh- Did you read this thread?

Little Dutch
02-11-2020, 02:33
Do it. If they have metal detectors you probably aren’t terribly far from your car. If they don’t then you are gtg.
I’m a scoff-law and far from being a concerned lawyer, so no guarantees on any advice I dole out over the Internet.

CS1983
02-11-2020, 08:16
Just tell people it’s fake and for a social experiment funded by Moms Demand Action to gauge cultural acceptance of common sense gun control laws. Ask if they like Bernie or Pete more. Randomly quote Woody Guthrie. Bring kale snacks. Obfuscate.

battlemidget
02-11-2020, 09:30
Sigh- Did you read this thread?

Yup, and I'm not a troll so I only comment on what I know.

AirbornePathogen
02-11-2020, 16:39
Pursuant to CRS 18-12-105.5, the prohibition against carry in schools only applies on school grounds/school property. To wit:

" A person commits a class 6 felony if such person knowingly and unlawfully and without legal authority carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a deadly weapon as defined in section 18-1-901 (3)(e) in or on the real estate and all improvements erected thereon of any public or private elementary, middle, junior high, high, or vocational school or any public or private college, university, or seminary"

From what I'm reading, if it's not on school grounds, the statute doesn't apply. Other prohibitions might, depending on the venue.

Caveat: I am not a lawyer, and it couldn't hurt to ask one.

Eric P
02-11-2020, 20:21
How could they enforce it off school grounds?

And when was ccw at a university banned? I carried on college grounds daily for two years a CU Denver.

00tec
02-11-2020, 20:52
For those that mention that it sounds strange for carry to be against the law at a school function, off of school property, it is that way in some other states. It would be illegal, for example, to conceal carry a firearm at the San Antonio Zoo while a field trip was being held there.


A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly
possesses or goes with a firearm . . . on the physical premises of a school or
educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by
a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger
transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school
or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written
regulations or written authorization of the institution.
Tex. Penal Code ? 46.03(a)(1).

Irving
02-11-2020, 21:17
Schools get to take advantage of what is referred to as a Nexus, but I'm not a lawyer and don't know to what level of the law things can be enforced, so just forget I said anything.