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.455_Hunter
02-26-2020, 17:41
Other than the fiasco in Fort Collins, does anybody have info on the number of Red Flags requested and issues since implementation? Any stories of flagrant abuse, like the scared of their own shadow pacifist who doesn't like the fact then the neighbor has guns and fears for his safety, or the disgruntled ex- getting back at a former partner?
avandelay
02-26-2020, 18:08
Leslie Hollywood over at Rally for our Rights has been keeping track of the ERPOs attempted/issued. It may not be completely up to date, but https://www.rallyforourrights.com/category/erpo/
Way to go DougCo. [facepalm]
kbbeckius
02-28-2020, 11:14
I thought I heard something this morning on Peter Boyles (710 KNUS morning show) that Steve Reams (Weld Co sheriff) had been red flagged, but can't find any confirmation. Maybe I misunderstood as I was in and out of the truck when I thought I heard him say it.
Thx Kbbeckius
buffalobo
02-28-2020, 13:05
I thought I heard something this morning on Peter Boyles (710 KNUS morning show) that Steve Reams (Weld Co sheriff) had been red flagged, but can't find any confirmation. Maybe I misunderstood as I was in and out of the truck when I thought I heard him say it.
Thx Kbbeckius
An inmate at the jail filed the petition, it is bogus and was tossed by judge.
Yes, absolutely abuse of the law and inmate can file more anytime.
Here's the news article about the Weld sheriff
https://www.9news.com/mobile/article/news/local/next/steve-reams-weld-county-red-flag-petition/73-05cdf109-aaef-4f74-96ec-90e7b185e9d9
ERPO gone wrong? Nobody in the house had a criminal record.
Lawyer: Man killed by officer was asleep when police fired (https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/lawyer-man-asleep-police-fired-house-killing-69587748)
The department's news release on Friday says tactical unit members were serving a “high-risk” search warrant around 4:30 a.m. when one of the unit's officers fatally shot Lemp. Police detectives recovered three rifles and two handguns from the home. Lemp was prohibited from possessing firearms, police said.
“Detectives were following up on a complaint from the public that Lemp, though prohibited, was in possession of firearms,” the release says without elaborating.
Sandler said the family believes police fired gunshots, not a flashbang or other projectile, from outside the home, including through Lemp’s bedroom window, while he and his girlfriend were sleeping. Nobody in the home heard any warnings or commands before police opened fire, she said.
“There is no warrant or other justification that would ever allow for that unless there is an imminent threat, which there was not,” Sandler said.
The police department's news release says the “facts and circumstances of the encounter” are still under investigation. Prosecutors from neighboring Howard County will review the evidence at the conclusion of the investigation.
How was he prohibited without a criminal record? Or is that just the ERPO claim, but not the actual situation?
DavieD55
03-17-2020, 13:34
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DavieD55
03-17-2020, 13:43
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DavieD55
03-17-2020, 16:56
How was he prohibited without a criminal record? Or is that just the ERPO claim, but not the actual situation?
The rumor I heard is that he was targeted because he was a marijuana card holder.
DavieD55
03-20-2020, 09:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQE0E62G9Y
DavieD55
03-20-2020, 11:40
The rumor I heard is that he was targeted because he was a marijuana card holder.
At this point I don't think the MMJ/firearms possession rumor is true. Even if it is true this is still murder one.
Even if it was, it's a non-violent offense.
I'd want to see body camera footage and the warrant and dispatch audio released, other info etc. before passing judgment. Not erring on anyone's side, just know that someone reiterating what someone else said who alleged to witness without even identifying them is terribly unreliable. It makes me wonder, is the eyewitness the girlfriend? doesn't mean she's lying, but her motivations would be different from any other eyewitness. (read the article, didn't watch the video.)
Reut'nSheut'nTeuton
03-25-2020, 09:38
He had something on the government. They iced him so he wouldn't make it public. Did they confiscate his electronics?
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