FFL shipping whoops

[GilpinGuy]

Someone I know won an auction for a .22 pistol and they shipped it directly to his house instead of his FFL. I'm sure this has happened before, but man, kind of a big "whooops".

He called his FFL and they're taking care of things. No po-po involved apparently.

ETA: this was in NY. [facepalm]

[spqrzilla]

Happens a lot. Humans make mistakes.

[GilpinGuy]

Happens a lot. Humans make mistakes.

It does? I would have thought the anti 2a asses would have used this to their advantage somehow, like making you physically go to the sellers FFL to pick it up or something ridiculous instead of shipping it to yours. Shouldn't give them ideas I guess.

[spqrzilla]

Right now the anti 2A pretend it happens intentionally all the time.

[Circuits]

There are a lot of anti-2A idiots.

There are exponentially more amiable ignoramuses.



I still see all the time about how people think it's legal to do in-person private sales across state lines. Some use the fig-leaf of "adjacent states" they misheard at an LGS or misread on the internets.

[GilpinGuy]

So true. I'm a little surprised that a firearm can go through a postal or shipping service (not sure which one) and not be detected these days though. I mean, if a simple mistake can be made and nobody notices, how often is it done intentionally by scumbags?

[Irving]

How would it be detected thought unless they are looking at all the mail? Today I shipped two starters. Could have been a box full of disassembled pistols or gun parts. Actually, with AR parts, people regularly ship boxes of disassembled gun parts. It would take a gun person to know which part of the gun isn't okay to be in the mail.

[spqrzilla]

Firearms can be in the mail so one would have to both detect and then research shipper and recipient.

[Great-Kazoo]

So true. I'm a little surprised that a firearm can go through a postal or shipping service (not sure which one) and not be detected these days though. I mean, if a simple mistake can be made and nobody notices, how often is it done intentionally by scumbags?

easy, they all smell like weed.

[GilpinGuy]

How would it be detected thought unless they are looking at all the mail? Today I shipped two starters. Could have been a box full of disassembled pistols or gun parts. Actually, with AR parts, people regularly ship boxes of disassembled gun parts. It would take a gun person to know which part of the gun isn't okay to be in the mail.


Firearms can be in the mail so one would have to both detect and then research shipper and recipient.

I guess I'm a bit naive then...this all makes sense. Freaking bombs can be sent through the mail and not be detected, so why not a used firearm? With the surveillance state what it is these days, I guess I assumed they could detect this stuff. Have another beer John......[Beer]

No repercussions for an FFL that mistakenly sends a firearm to the wrong address? Not that I think that their should be or will be, but I could see that being kind of a problem for an FFL.

[WETWRKS]

Some time back I had a shipper who shipped directly to me instead of to the FFL that I requested he ship to. It got sorted out on my end. I am 99% certain he did it intentionally as he also didn't ship everything he was supposed to then quit taking calls and ignored all attempts to contact him.

[Gman]

I've shipped a pistol back and forth between a manufacturer for warranty repairs via UPS and I declared the box contained "machine parts".

It's an internal combustion engine with an uncontained piston.
*Pistons and fuel sold separately*


I wouldn't put "STEAL ME" on the box.

[Circuits]

I guess I'm a bit naive then...this all makes sense. Freaking bombs can be sent through the mail and not be detected, so why not a used firearm? With the surveillance state what it is these days, I guess I assumed they could detect this stuff. Have another beer John......[Beer]

No repercussions for an FFL that mistakenly sends a firearm to the wrong address? Not that I think that their should be or will be, but I could see that being kind of a problem for an FFL.
An FFL shipping to a non-FFL will result in a missed or falsified entry in their 4473, which may or may not be caught by their IOI at their next regular inspection. Depending on your region, you might only get inspected every five or six years.

If caught, it'll generate a report, and if severe enough, or blatant enough could result in suspension or revocation of their FFL, and possibly even fines or criminal charges at the discretion of the US Atty for the region.

That is, if the dealer's even still in business by the time the next inspection comes around.

[TEAMRICO]

Libs are always saying you can have weapons of war sent right to your doorstep.
I wish! With Amazon Prime that would be awesome!

[Gman]

Libs are always saying you can have weapons of war sent right to your doorstep.
I wish! With Amazon Prime that would be awesome!

No kidding. I've heard that repeated by lefties for years. I must be doing it wrong.