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Hi,
Here's a thread to discuss Political (and therefore) Financial Implications of the Corona Virus.
For instance;
Keeping your business open
Losing your job
Suing
etc.
-John
Government overreach,
Fake news,
etc.
-John
I work commercial construction, buildings/projects have deadlines. These projects have been in development for years and are fully funded, so I don?t see any issues with the developer/funding side. So far I?m still working as if nothing has happened, one project should final at the end of May, the other project finals mid July. Next big project broke ground and my work should start late summer and the other next large project should break ground in may. We will see how long that lasts.
Government is mandating that companies of xyz size, cease operations.
Which is silly because companies, are what make America work.
Not Government.
-John
Let's tell them, let's tell Government, that THEY can't work.
THEY can't waste our money.
THEY can't fake news.
-John
(They) Government are the problem.
-John
Looks like I get an additional 90 days to pay the government the rest of the money I owe them for taxes from last year.
And maybe Trump will be writing me a check for $1K soon. (Which I?ll put towards those taxes I owe that are now due around mid July)
Everything about this is a serious infraction of what Government is supposed to be.
Government is supposed to be the rock, of what shall and shall not be.
But instead today, it flows like the wind.
This is unconstitutional and we should all stand up and say NO!
-John
CDOT is tracking construction projects. So far only a few workers or subcontractors have not shown up due to the wuhan virus.
Over protective managers are having inspectors watch from vehicles for the south I25 GAPP project... so in a few years I suspect a higher than average defect rate on that stretch.
Some consultants have been replaced since they wont send personal out to interact with others on projects.
My office is nearly vacant with everyone working from home. I cant (wont) work at home if anything needs done. Too many distractions. But those working remotely are having bandwidth issues with the VPN.
We have all meetings via google hangouts, even with folks 2 offices down.
68Charger
03-17-2020, 21:35
This is probably as good a place as any to field conspiracy theories...
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-bill-gates-leaves-microsoft-board-directors-20200313-kddrp4koffd2fkzovz4bv5roeu-story.html
Anyone who's paid attention has seen ties between UN agenda 21 and the Gates Foundation...
What of this timing, and rumors that his recent "charity work" has been in China?
How do we tell Government they don't have the right to close business?
-John
68Charger
03-17-2020, 22:09
How do we tell Government they don't have the right to close business?
-John
Do not comply... I would gladly patronize a business that is wrongfully ordered to shut down.
Let them figure out how to enforce an illegal order
Government at every level is shutting down, all buildings closed and off limits. The city, county, state and federal sectors closed to public interaction. Law enforcement by internet, trials by remote conference, prosecutorial actions pled or postponed. Jails are being emptied.
Take a vacation, work at home in your pajamas, go fishing, make the best of it. Isolation and social distancing is the mandate. Even health care providers are shut down. Everyone except grocery store workers of course, for now. Just keep laughing about the TP hoarders, until you run out.
Whoever or whatever is to blame and no matter what transpires, if you haven't prepared for long term independent survival you're in deep trouble with scant options left.
Take solace if you can because we are nowhere close to the desperate level of survival and imminent extinction that our native wildlife populations are experiencing.
hurley842002
03-17-2020, 22:50
Do not comply... I would gladly patronize a business that is wrongfully ordered to shut down.
Let them figure out how to enforce an illegal orderThe mayor of Tucson has decided to close restaurants and bars/breweries through the month of March, as of 8pm tonight. We went to a local brewery earlier, and apparently (according to our server), one of the founders was on the phone with his attorney's all afternoon trying to figure out a work around. Apparently it's a misdemeanor to disobey the order, and he was contemplating giving the mayor a middle finger. I'll be going back.
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Bill Whittle interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=su1sN01FUgw&feature=emb_logo
I watched that episode earlier. I think that's the most pissed off I've ever seen Bill.
Great-Kazoo
03-18-2020, 01:13
It's interesting to see democrats lay all this at trumps feet. From the administration asian racism, regarding it a Chinese flu. The HOW DARE TRUMP try and Close the Borders. Using the same tired racist, xenophobic shit they've done since 11/16. YET they applaud Italy and spain for isolating them self..
I'm convinced the d's are so blinded by hatred, they actually believe the shit they're spewing? And is the public, in general buying it?
Bailey Guns
03-18-2020, 05:23
Is Bill Whittle ever wrong? About anything?
Zundfolge
03-18-2020, 08:04
Is Bill Whittle ever wrong? About anything?
So far the only thing I can find that he's been wrong about is his prediction that Star Citizen would be a huge hit.
Oil is in a free fall due to all this mess and the Saudi/Russia pissing match. Getting ready to buy
IMO, this is all a carefully planned and executed plot to use this new disease against Trump. Remember the H1N1 Swine Flu 10 years ago when Obummer was Pres? Read up on that, and how many people in the US were sickened by it, and how many thousands died. Then look at the numbers worldwide!
This coronabullshit ain't nothing compared to that, and there wasn't a global media frenzy, or mass closings of ANYTHING! And ya know what? That disease is still out there, so's AIDS, SARS, bird flu, EBOLA, MERS, measles, smallpox, and every other disease that was supposed to wipe us all out. Under control, sure, but they all still exist, and people still catch them.....
Zundfolge
03-18-2020, 10:32
IMO, this is all a carefully planned and executed plot to use this new disease against Trump.
My only disagreement is the "carefully planned and executed" part ... this is opportunists sociopaths taking advantage of a crisis. But yeah, the overall panic, FUD and crisis-talk is clearly being weaponized specifically against Trump (and against civic-nationalist movements, BREXIT, anti-globalists and anyone to the right of Noam Chomsky around the world).
Thing is I don't think its working. I think open borders, socialized medicine and big government in general are actually being questioned in this crisis more than longed for.
When they're actively and repeatedly trying to pin Trump as being "racist" by calling it the "China Virus" in the daily briefing, it's pretty apparent what they're trying to do.
I would love to see a ban on imported medicine from China & others over the next 5 years. Bring all drug manufacturing back to the US so we can not be held hostage for medicine in the future. It may cost more, but it would be made here.
Same for all military equipment & supplies.
If it's vital to our protection and functioning as a society if we're isolated, we need capacity here to do it. The end.
Oil is in a free fall due to all this mess and the Saudi/Russia pissing match. Getting ready to buy
I seriously F'ed up and forgot to sell inverse/oil etf/etn 5 years+ back. It was account I dont really look at everyday.
I was holding bag of urine/crap for 5+ and now it FINALLY IN A GAIN.
Bag of shit turned into a bag of silver. :)
DavieD55
03-18-2020, 16:38
Well let's see here...no Russian collusion (Whatever that means) the impeachment didn't turn out as planned, the scotus is about due for another appointment and on and on.
It all smacks of a psychological operation to drive fear, hysteria, and disorder. The blue cities and states are slowly locking up into martial law where they can hold their societies hostage.
Wouldn't be surprised if it were a deep state operation to spread a bioweapon on the deplorables in order to manufacture a crisis seeing that all their other attempts have failed and their time is running low as we near an election cycle.
Great-Kazoo
03-19-2020, 16:20
When they're actively and repeatedly trying to pin Trump as being "racist" by calling it the "China Virus" in the daily briefing, it's pretty apparent what they're trying to do.
Amen to that
When they're actively and repeatedly trying to pin Trump as being "racist" by calling it the "China Virus" in the daily briefing, it's pretty apparent what they're trying to do.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/legend-close-up-photo-of-trumps-notes-shows-he-crossed-out-corona-and-replaced-it-with-chinese-virus/
LEGEND: Close Up Photo of Trump’s Notes Shows He Crossed Out “Corona” and Replaced it with “Chinese” Virus
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/ETfa0B-XQAIg63A-600x400.jpg
[ROFL1]
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/legend-close-up-photo-of-trumps-notes-shows-he-crossed-out-corona-and-replaced-it-with-chinese-virus/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/ETfa0B-XQAIg63A-600x400.jpg
[ROFL1]
He's so savage, I love it!
What else could it be, but an attack by the News Media and Deep State on Donald Trump?
We've faced similar viruses before, but only now are they debilitating, and emergencies.
-John
I've learned one thing from the health care industry... you have Acute Attacks or you have Chronic Attacks.
Let's call this an Acute Attack, well if so, it's not so bad.
Last I heard there were 100+ dead.
-John
For the world to be going crazy, over 100+ dead (in America) is just crazy.
Millennials, Communists, Socialists, Progressive, Liberals, all need to wonder how crazy they are.
-John
For the world to be going crazy, over 100+ dead (in America) is just crazy.
Millennials, Communists, Socialists, Progressive, Liberals, all need to wonder how crazy they are.
-John
We, the boomers, will put this, straight on you!
You own this.
-John
Just out of curiosity, what's your personal threshold for when you would consider this as bad?
Rats in my apartment... would be bad.
-John
Just out of curiosity, what's your personal threshold for when you would consider this as bad?
Are you worried about Boomers, Millennials, or other Communists and Socialists?
Your kids, maybe?
-John
I was asking how many deaths it would take for you to consider it to be "not that bad." To be honest, I've already lost interest in the answer.
I was asking how many deaths it would take for you to consider it to be "not that bad." To be honest, I've already lost interest in the answer.
I never cared.
-John
I was asking how many deaths it would take for you to consider it to be "not that bad." To be honest, I've already lost interest in the answer.
Are you worried about Boomers, Millennials, or other Communists and Socialists?
Your kids, maybe?
-John
I never cared.
-John
When they're actively and repeatedly trying to pin Trump as being "racist" by calling it the "China Virus" in the daily briefing, it's pretty apparent what they're trying to do.
I admit, every press briefing that he's given that reporters try and make him appear like a racist....and he doubles down, stares the reporter right in the eyes and enunciates, "Chi.Na." so they understand where he stands on the issue...well, I grin wider and wider.
BPTactical
03-19-2020, 20:35
Just out of curiosity, what's your personal threshold for when you would consider this as bad?
When I cant get TP at the store....
The Horror
Can we stop with wuhan, china, Italy virus?
It is confusing me.
Just call it a real name......... xijingPING virus. :)
JohnnyDrama
03-20-2020, 10:02
Evidently it killed off the "Progressive Left".
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-killed-progressive-left-130016388.html
Evidently it killed off the "Progressive Left".
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-killed-progressive-left-130016388.html
Yahoo is still around?
68Charger
03-20-2020, 12:10
Yahoo is still around?
yeah Verizon bought them (along with HuffPo) and is keeping them around, their attempt to be content providers.
One can only hope there is any accuracy to this article
Zundfolge
03-20-2020, 12:45
I admit, every press briefing that he's given that reporters try and make him appear like a racist....and he doubles down, stares the reporter right in the eyes and enunciates, "Chi.Na." so they understand where he stands on the issue...well, I grin wider and wider.
Today Pompeo joined him in calling it the Chinese Virus ... gotta love it.
From here on out that's the only way I'll refer to it as well.
Well, it may be insensitive, but it's not inaccurate. The outbreak originated in China, and they repeatedly lied about it until containment was no longer feasible. I prefer Kung Flu because it sounds cooler, but that's not accurate. Maybe Yellow Peril?
In the spirit of sensitivity to everyone form all over the world (except democrats) on what we call this flu. I propose that from this point forward to keep it simple for everyone we just call it what it is the “KUNG FLU”!!!!!
battlemidget
03-20-2020, 15:40
In honor of Winnie the Poo (Xi's favorite animated character), we should call it the Poo Flu.
In honor of Winnie the Poo (Xi's favorite animated character), we should call it the Poo Flu.
Maybe, if it gave you the shits.
I've also heard it referred to as the Wutang Flubang.
I've heard it called "Boomerator" once so far or some variation of that. Memory isn't perfect.
Today Pompeo joined him in calling it the Chinese Virus ... gotta love it.
From here on out that's the only way I'll refer to it as well.
In my out of office emails and voice mail at CDOT, it says I am working from home due to the Wuhan virus crisis. I'm sure management loves that... I also setup an online meeting with the location set as "your wuhan virus isolation cell". Got a chuckle from some, even a high level manager.(2levels below ED)
Boomer Remover
Yeah that's it. I must be getting old. [dig]
Or, we could call it the Millennial Virus. Created by millennials to get rid of grandma and grandpa so they can finally move upstairs while still living for free.
Yeah that's it. I must be getting old. [dig]
OK, Boomer.
DavieD55
03-20-2020, 23:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VEYzwSdZU
One thing that we will almost certainly face is that some time, probably very soon, some nut case or multiple nut cases will commit a mass shooting. It will cause a panic all it's own and be used by the media and politicians from now until the election. It won't bode well for access to guns and ammo in the short term, or for our freedoms in the long term.
DavieD55
03-21-2020, 12:53
Boooya
https://youtu.be/dyjQ1oBlBHo
One thing that we will almost certainly face is that some time, probably very soon, some nut case or multiple nut cases will commit a mass shooting. It will cause a panic all it's own and be used by the media and politicians from now until the election. It won't bode well for access to guns and ammo in the short term, or for our freedoms in the long term.
Where? No more mass gatherings for mass shootings other than grocery stores.
I'm pretty sure the fake media and government just shot their wad via hysterics.
They don't need a mass murderer to add to their hysterics/
-John
A "mass shooting" will require a large family or some driving.
68Charger
03-21-2020, 19:55
Suicide bomber forced to work from home, kills most in his apartment building.
Ok, not a mass "shooting"
Great-Kazoo
03-21-2020, 20:46
A "mass shooting" will require a large family or some driving.
well... based on some of the people on my HTF FB page. They've already reached that point. Freaking out because a restaurant is Open??
I told one lady.
Her knickers were wrapped too tight and cutting off the oxygen to her brain.
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Up to 97 Likes ;)
fucking CA transplant.
More a financial than political impact but...
It seems the federal government has extended the tax filing deadline until July 15th this year.
Polis has extended the state tax payment deadline to the same date.
What about the filing date for state taxes? Do you think I still have to have my state taxes filed by April 15th?
Politicians are absolutely horrible about putting anything in writing that isn?t just vague and full of gray areas and open to interpretation.
Polis has extended the state tax payment deadline to the same date.
What about the filing date for state taxes? Do you think I still have to have my state taxes filed by April 15th?
Huh? It seems like those are questions answered by the prior sentence.
Huh? It seems like those are questions answered by the prior sentence.
They are discreetly separate and it may be a valid question.
The fed made July 15 the deadline for filing and payment.
If Ray is correct (I haven't checked), Polis may have only announced an extension for payment....
implying that you may still have to file state taxes on April 15. (Doubtful, btw)
They are discreetly separate and it may be a valid question.
The fed made July 15 the deadline for filing and payment.
If Ray is correct (I haven't checked), Polis may have only announced an extension for payment....
implying that you may still have to file state taxes on April 15. (Doubtful, btw)
Exactly.
The IRS specifically called out extending the deadline to file. Polis didn?t say anything about filing. Only that the payment date had been extended.
I?ll see if I can manage to post his letter.
80528
Not sure if this will work. It?s a PDF
Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification.
buffalobo
03-22-2020, 17:13
So we have been getting update from presidents team/admin for couple weeks.
Just think if Joe Biden had been leading them.
So we have been getting update from presidents team/admin for couple weeks.
Just think if Joe Biden had been leading them.
"Back in the late 70's, the last time the Budweiser disease was going about, well I think it was the ambassador of Taiwan, or the 'Lilipines that commen..., that said...., that said, she said I had gorgeous sweat, and then they liked to lick the salt off my arms for the salt, for the sweat, because they needed more minerals, which is why I was there, to get them minerals, to get us minerals, something about minerals, but he got some hair on his tongue, and he was like "puuuh puuuuuh puuuuuh" and I saved his life by performing the Himmler Maneuver. "
"Back in the late 70's, the last time the Budweiser disease was going about, well I think it was the ambassador of Taiwan, or the 'Lilipines that commen..., that said...., that said, she said I had gorgeous sweat, and then they liked to lick the salt off my arms for the salt, for the sweat, because they needed more minerals, which is why I was there, to get them minerals, to get us minerals, something about minerals, but he got some hair on his tongue, and he was like "puuuh puuuuuh puuuuuh" and I saved his life by performing the Himmler Maneuver. "
LOL spot on!
I see that the government is about to give Boeing $60 Billion in taxpayer dollars. That is great but they need to put a stipulation in there that says all foreign Boeing employees must be laid off before the 1st American worker is let go.
If they don't, I know exactly how this is going to go down and that tax money will end up saving an probably creating more jobs in Poland and India than here in the US. Hell, they will use it as an excuse to outsource more than they have been!
Anyone know if there is some wording in this bill that all foreigners must be kaid off before the first American is?
Do you have a link to what you are talking about so we can follow your train of thought?
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-to-lower-paid-contractors-former
Boeing has been outsourcing for years and this is what led to the MAX problem and is leading to other problems. Unless there is language to lay off foreign workers first, the US taxpayer is about to fund a bunch of foreign jobs and watch their neighbors draw unemployment all for $60 Billion.
No bailouts.
Every payment to a corporation should require and equal equity share in that company that the US government has the right to sell at anytime on the open market. Said company does not get the right to purchase back the shares outside of the free market.
3beansalad
03-23-2020, 10:11
I've been in commercial/ defense/ industrial contracting for 30ish years. Last week my boss about lost his shit over the potential of a shelter in place order. Today he called the office staff together and said it was business as usual for the foreseeable future. Construction is being considered essential at this time. Everything about my job could be done at home, with my work computer, but thankfully we are a very small office staff and can maintain our social distancing... now if only I could get away with wearing headphones so I don't have to listen to all the BS!
Just a thought: If anyone thinks the .gov is going to restore all of the rights they are infringing upon right now, 2 words: Patriot Act.
The Dems are playing with political dynamite right now:
Republicans say Dems blocking coronavirus relief over ‘ideological wish list’ (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-say-dems-blocking-coronavirus-relief-over-ideological-wish-list)
Via senior GOP aide, Schumer/Pelosi now pushing these demands amid pandemic-fueled economic collapse:
1) Unprecedented collective bargaining powers for unions
2) Increased fuel emissions standards for airlines
3) Expansion of wind and solar tax credits
Well let's hope some R put National Constitutional Carry in that bill somewhere since we are playing this game.
Here's what the Dems want in the relief bill:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/03/23/here-are-the-details-of-nancy-pelosis-leftist-wish-list-and-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-wuhan-coronavirus-n2565543
As previously reported, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi came back to Washington D.C. last night after a week long recess and blew up days of emergency relief work done by the Senate. She wants to write her own far left bill and now we know what will be in it.
According to a source close to the process on Capitol Hill, in order to move forward with any kind of relief package, Pelosi and her far-left Democrat caucus will demand the following be included:
-Publication of corporate pay statistics by race and race statistics for all corporate boards
-A bail out on all current debt at the Postal Service
-Required early voting
-Required same day voter registration
-Provisions on official time for union collective bargaining
-Full offset of airline emissions by 2025
-Publication and reporting of greenhouse gas statistics for individual flights
-Retirement plans for community newspaper employees
-Federal $15 minimum wage
-Permanent paid leave
-Study on climate change mitigation efforts
The provisions will apply to the companies and business rescued by the bill.
There's more in the actual bill: https://www.scribd.com/document/452926605/Pelosi-Bill#from_embed
To include wiping out up to $10K per student loan.
It's just crazy. They want to socialize everything.
NO! FUCK YOU!
-John
Yes. Great way to block these unconservative Republicans from handing out money like candy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v56tKHKlvE&feature=emb_logo
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