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How much trouble am I in? I haven't had a ticket in a long time.
Mandatory court date is a long ways off due to Corona shutdowns the officer said I could try to ask for a Skype type conference or ask to have it moved up to the first available date.
Meh. Probably reduced to a 2 point ticket and a fee
Great-Kazoo
03-18-2020, 18:23
Considering you're more than 20 over. You're doing ok.
Well, one of mine, 118 in a 55 was dropped to 2 pts defective vehicle as i needed my dl to commute.
If it's your first in that long. Probably max fine with a recommendation for driving class. But with todays health scares. Who knows , push the da in to a 2 pt defective vehicle along with the deferred 1 yr good behavior
https://leg.colorado.gov/content/penalties-speeding-violations
battlemidget
03-18-2020, 18:23
I believe that's a 6 point ticket. Over 21, I believe 12 points in 12 months means you're going in front of the judge. Ask the city attorney if there's anything you can do to get the points down. They may even offer you a deferred sentence with 1 year of no violations.
Ok I've played the "defective vehicle" thing before. Pretty sure that's every moving violation I've had. Just making sure nothing has changed.
My first question would be what in the hell the officer was doing running radar in the first place? Isn?t he concerned that making traffic stops could put him at risk for that corona thing?
I got an 83 in a 55 just outside of Castle Rock about a year ago. I was coming down an on ramp from a dead stop and I thought the highway below was 65 so I was going 73 to blend in, easier to slow down than speed up, at the traffic lanes. Turns out the speed limit was 55. The cop was going the opposite direction on the highway as I merged on the highway. He turned around and followed me from four cars back for about five miles before stopping me. I went to pretrial willing to plead guilty to 73 in a 55, they would not accept anything under 79 in a 55. So, it was a 6 point violation and $150. This was my only ticket in the last 3 plus years.
I was so pissed that I have raised all my engineering prices requiring me to physically go into Douglas County by 10% as an “Unfair access charge”. So, if houses cost more to buy in DC you can partially blame the CHP and the court system.
So, if houses cost more to buy in DC you can partially blame the CHP and the court system.
I?m going to partially blame disgruntled speeders.
I?m going to partially blame disgruntled speeders.
[LOL]
SouthPaw
03-18-2020, 19:52
As someone who has spent many days in court, if you have a clean driving record, your ticket will be reduced significantly (if wasn’t in a construction zone). I’ve had many reckless driving tickets reduced to less than half with a shitty driving record.
Bailey Guns
03-18-2020, 19:55
Yeah, just plead your case to the DA in the nicest, most remorseful way possible. It'll get reduced. You're probably lucky they didn't tack on careless...that was pretty much automatic back in the day for 25 or more over when I wrote tickets. Not a big deal but you'll need to keep your nose clean for a while.
I?m going to partially blame disgruntled speeders.
You CAN blame disgruntled speeders for the price increase but do YOU have a mechanism to recover any of that cost increase. I will look at eliminating the fee when I have achieved an eye for an eyelash territory, because I can.
My 87 in a 55 in Denver ended up at 3 points, 355 fine. I was one of 2 people in court that didn't require a Spanish interpreter, and the only one that could present valid proof of insurance when pulled over, or in court.
but do YOU have a mechanism to recover any of that cost increase.
Nope. Heck, I don?t even have a mechanism to buy toilet paper these days.
My 87 in a 55 in Denver ended up at 3 points, 355 fine. I was one of 2 people in court that didn't require a Spanish interpreter, and the only one that could present valid proof of insurance when pulled over, or in court.
Yea this in spades. The dregs of society getting away with all kinds of crap and mouthing off to the magistrate to boot.
In all other prior cases, including one careless driving citation for blowing past an unmarked DPD in the mousetrap in the rain, I lawyered up with someone that golfs with some of the traffic court ADA's and would just postpone until he found a buddy teed up, paid a hefty fee but got off either scott free or 1 pt headlight violation and no insurance increase.
Last time I rolled the dice and skipped the lawyer (he had gone up to like $800 or so). 30MPH over at DIA coming into the parking/pickup/dropoff split on the west side where it drops to 35, in a truck. It was dry. Mandatory court in Denver. Never got to speak with the ADA. Magistrate said he offered (as I recall) 6 points reduced to 4 and a $350 fine. Insurance got jacked during the next renewal. I should have not dressed nice and talked back, probably would have dropped it to 2 pts and half the fine.
SouthPaw
03-18-2020, 21:12
Also, the DA’s first offer can be negotiated (again if your record is clean).
My first question would be what in the hell the officer was doing running radar in the first place? Isn?t he concerned that making traffic stops could put him at risk for that corona thing?
Apparently someone with the exact same vehicle was reported doing 90 about 20 miles up the road and they were kind enough to radio ahead with a BOLO
Also, the DA’s first offer can be negotiated (again if your record is clean).
All of my previous "defective vehicle" moving violations are more than 7 years old.
SouthPaw
03-18-2020, 22:25
All of my previous "defective vehicle" moving violations are more than 7 years old.
Then you should have some room for negotiations. I remember the DA offering me a defective vehicle and I was able to press him to get it down to a cracked windshield or something stupid like that. Ultimately it’s up to the judge if they will accept the plea or not. I’ve had it turned around on me with the DA recommending a certain charge, only to have the judge saying something like “with your driving record, you aren’t getting any breaks.” Lol.
What county was it in?
Can you still appeal the conviction?
Back in my younger, faster days in San Antonio, we could appeal the conviction up to County Court. County Court was always overwhelmed with real crimes that they would dismiss instead of bother. Of course, you had to cough up a bond of three times the fine, but you got it back upon dismissal.
Just wondering if this was still a thing.
Then you should have some room for negotiations. I remember the DA offering me a defective vehicle and I was able to press him to get it down to a cracked windshield or something stupid like that. Ultimately it’s up to the judge if they will accept the plea or not. I’ve had it turned around on me with the DA recommending a certain charge, only to have the judge saying something like “with your driving record, you aren’t getting any breaks.” Lol.
What county was it in?
Ft lupton PD. Weld county
Can you still appeal the conviction?
Back in my younger, faster days in San Antonio, we could appeal the conviction up to County Court. County Court was always overwhelmed with real crimes that they would dismiss instead of bother. Of course, you had to cough up a bond of three times the fine, but you got it back upon dismissal.
Just wondering if this was still a thing.
I'm not actually convicted of anything yet, I have a court date in June.
Found my answer:
http://www.freeexistence.org/ticket_appeals.html
Looks like it's still worth a shot - the DA will likely negotiate down or dismiss without an appearance.
A lot of hassle, but minimal filing fees.
2 point defective vehicle and $170.38 after fees.
And the judge educated me on what happens at 40 over the limit...
Bailey Guns
06-02-2020, 15:37
I'd say that's an excellent outcome.
2 point defective vehicle and $170.38 after fees.
And the judge educated me on what happens at 40 over the limit...
We'll don't keep us in suspense man!
Exhibition driving?
We'll don't keep us in suspense man!
Exhibition driving?
Automatic 1 year suspension (red license)
blacklabel
06-02-2020, 16:58
2 point defective vehicle and $170.38 after fees.
And the judge educated me on what happens at 40 over the limit...
90 in a 50, reckless driving and engaging in a speed contest netted me the reckless sticking, a $250 fine and a year of probation. That was also 12 years ago.
90 in a 65 is robbing the cradle.
NFATrustGuy
06-02-2020, 18:18
Automatic 1 year suspension (red license)
So you're saying I could do 114 in a 75 before things get really ugly? [Coffee]
90 in a 65 is robbing the cradle.
YOLO w COVID
So you're saying I could do 114 in a 75 before things get really ugly? [Coffee]
In ft lupton at least
I got a ticket for 69 in a 45 going up 285 in Morrison in early March just after the shut downs started. 6 point ticket. Got a letter about a month later from the City of Morrison with the offer of reducing it to a 3 point driving too fast for conditions ticket if I paid instead of going in to court which was closed at the time. That section of road is nothing but a revenue collection point for Morrison. I know I wasn?t driving 69 (Jeep Wrangler up hill around those corners, no way) and the ticket if written for 70 would have required a summons for court, how convenient was that? but how do you prove that kind of thing?
Someone should open a bar called the Boars Nest in that town.
170 bucks is definitely a win here. My 87 in a 55 in Denver several years ago netted them almost 400 bucks, and cost me 3 points. I forget what bullshit infraction actually ended up on my record.
2 point defective vehicle and $170.38 after fees.
And the judge educated me on what happens at 40 over the limit...
I'd say that's an excellent outcome.
Until your insurance carrier surreptitiously drops your small accident forgiveness because your (spouse in my case) had a "defective vehicle citation," you have a small accident, make a claim expecting no affect, and they jack your rates.
Wait, did you make a claim or not? That sounds fishy but I might be misreading.
Wait, did you make a claim or not? That sounds fishy but I might be misreading.
I made a claim. Should have just paid it.
Me $500 deductible
Ins $2200 paid to shop
Agent told me it would be at fault due to amount (hit a parking lot pole) but I had forgiveness on the policy so didn't sweat it.
Turns out they dropped that forgiveness due to the wife's ticket but didn't cover that with me when I filed a claim.
Fucked my rates. Of course, so did annual rate increases and a new vehicle. Damn near 50% increase since last year.
Been with them for 15 years and now they're screwing with me.
Ahhhh I see, couple of things going on there.
Complete bullshit that they'd drop the accident forgiveness due to a defective vehicle ticket. They know damn well that is a drop down charge and isn't indicative of an accident.
gat_wrench
06-03-2020, 10:08
I got one, many years ago, when I was stationed in Hawaii... 90 in a 55. It was a $1600 fine (+lawyer costs and court fees), 30 days of weekend jail, 100 hours of community service, a defensive driving class, and a written letter of apology to Honolulu county. Then they put a hold on my license so that years later, here in Colorado, I could not renew it until I sent them more money and proof that I was carrying some kind of high risk car insurance that I had to pay extra for.
Long story short... be careful where you speed and what kind of lawyer you hire.
Ahhhh I see, couple of things going on there.
Complete bullshit that they'd drop the accident forgiveness due to a defective vehicle ticket. They know damn well that is a drop down charge and isn't indicative of an accident.
Shopping rates the other day and my non-moving defective vehicle ticket came up with some carriers as to why my rates were higher. Some carriers didnt care.
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