View Full Version : What have you learned?
This isn't a doom-and-gloom thread. No conspiracies, no politics, and absolutely no condescending. It's time to remember we are real people, with real friends and families, and that we're all going through some difficulties to some degree or another. And it's not just us- by 'us', included are friends and families and complex extensions that are a part of our lives.
With that understanding, what are some things you've learned? What are some things you're changing, going forward? How have you coped, and how have you helped others cope?
I'll start.
1. I have family in another state; older family members that are in the "danger zone" of this virus. I'm very glad that I'm able to keep in touch with them through phone and video chats- I set things up for them the last time we visited.
2. It's amazing to see how many people are getting outside, taking families for walks, and just paying more attention to their kids.
3. We're getting to know our neighbors a bit more, and finding those people in the neighborhood that need help.
4. Things are GETTING DONE AROUND THE HOUSE. Some people may have been able to stay on top of their honey-do list; that sure wasn't us. Until the stay-at-home was issued, that is. Now, holy crap, this may be the year the garage gets cleaned!
5. We've been listening to more music. And playing epic games of dominos and board games.
6. I am planning on canning even more foodstuffs this year, and this is helping me focus and stay on my goals. There are fewer distractions (and I don't think I am alone in admitting that I had no idea how very many distractions there were in my life before this event.)
7. This has been a wake-up call for finances; revamping our budget and taking a look at what we'd spend without thinking is sobering, but also helpful.
8. This event has shifted the way I have viewed my storage uses and needs; I'll be doing things a little differently than the way things played out in my head vs. real life.
9. Our garden this year will actually happen. Go to rareseeds.com to order your seeds.
How about you? What have you learned, and what will you be doing this year to take your life back? What will you be continuing, and what will you be doing differently?
Great-Kazoo
04-06-2020, 09:44
not much differently, other than re-evaluate the storage inventory.
Having sold off a lot before the move. We restocked a minimum qty, not our normal amount. Probably due to the Lds store is a 4+ hour drive rt.
Adding a generator, as was the case in CO. Being on a well with no power can put a stop to supply.
Checking on family & friends more so than before. It has put me in touch with people we haven't talked to in years.
Garden wise, more of each item grown last year being planted for this one.
The up side to this virus.
FINALLY getting some people in the area to see the benefits of a network.
Ha.
Lesson one- don?t wait until you?re almost out of something to buy more. I guess I?ve been spoiled always living in a big city with pretty much everything I need within a short drive. While I?ve always been the kind of person to buy necessities in somewhat large quantities, I?ve typically waited until those items were nearly depleted before deciding to replenish them. I won?t be doing this going forward.
Lesson two- food. With my wife and I both working full time and me usually working more hours than most, we don?t keep much food on hand or do much cooking at the house. We usually dined out at restaurants or at least picked up food to take home. When all of that convenience suddenly goes away it puts you in a position where you are suddenly making lifestyle changes just to feed yourself.
Lesson three- I need more hobbies that I can do at home to entertain myself.
Lesson four- this one is a positive. If you don?t have too many hobbies to entertain you at home and you suddenly find yourself home quite a bit, then finding time for all of the little projects around the house that you have been putting off is much easier.
Side notes- my parents and siblings are not close by. Communication by phone/text/email has been easy and fortunately my parents live in very small, rural communities so I feel they are in a good position to ride this out unscathed so worrying about them isn?t something that I am overly concerned with.
Aloha_Shooter
04-06-2020, 10:49
I already knew I could work from home but that my productivity was reduced when I did. Already knew that I had sufficient supplies to get me through a period like this (in part because I often go 2, 3, 4 weeks between grocery trips). In fact, haven't made much of a dent in my freezer/pantry because I'm still trying to order take-out as much as possible to assist some of the local restaurants.
I haven't been knocking as much out of my "to read" stack as I would have hoped -- probably because I have so much bandwidth available that I've been discovering new YouTube channels I like -- sources as diverse as car rebuilding/maintenance (VINwiki, Tavarish, DRIVETRIBE, Rich Rebuilds), music (BethRoars, RHINO, Patty Gurdy, TheHighwayMen, various Portuguese fado channels), locksport (LockpickingLawyer, Bosnianbill) comedy (Key & Peele, HonestTrailers, Translator Fails), cooking (The Bearded Butchers, SousVideEverything, Mad Scientist BBQ, Harry Soo), pop media (Clownfish TV, Nerdrotic, Overlord DVD), aviation (C.W. Lemoine), etc.
Who knew Disney's finances were so rocky that they'd need to take out over $6B in loans in addition to furloughing most of their employees or that the comic book industry would collapse after just a week of shop closures?
Two silver linings I'm hoping for coming out of this:
1. People practice better hygiene in general. Have been disgusted for years at how many people I see who use the lavatory and then don't bother washing their hands before leaving.
2. A lot of the SJWs in popular media get dumped as companies like Disney, Warner Brothers, etc. find out they actually need to make a profit and make movies/TV shows that people want and like.
Preps were solid, thinking could greatly improve.
I was prepared for "evolving thinking" on currency/value of money which we haven't seen (yet). I didn't fully think through "evolving thinking" on essentials. There were windows of opportunity where you might not have found TP at King's but could have gotten a few cans of soup.
Biz partners will screw you when they get scared. I have a medium-term money gap which is biz related but will hit the personal books. Like many, my healthcare is tied to the biz which is my employment. When that goes, my family loses access to care that is not financially catastrophic for us. In a pandemic!
beast556
04-06-2020, 11:31
Work as normal, wish I was able to stay at home. Been doing tons of reloading on the weekends.
1. Alergy season means I avoid gardening and landscaping as there is a chance the sinuses get infected and tend to then give me upper respitory issues. Dont want to provide a breeding ground for this.
2. Happy with my ammo supply as I have been proactive after the last drought. That said, I did not do the end of year huge order in 2019 and feel less inclined to burn ammo.
3. I am fine wirking from home, but with more people here productivity is on par with the office.
4. Wife is more receptive of setting up a larger larder.
5. Our pantry was ignored due to both of us working crazy hours since January. That won't do, no excuses.
6. I really want to get out of the HOA life and get a few more things on property including fuel. Yes it was not an issue this time.
7. I want to make an effort to meet more of this boards members. I know most of my neighbors around me. But I want to meet the folks here as its a good group and has kept their wits.
1.Prepping now makes sense to my wife. We went through the bug out bags and 72 hour kit yesterday, and made significant changes.
2. Most office jobs can be shifted to work at home, meaning less traffic, less pollution, and more free time for the workers. As long as productivity remains high, employers should continue this.
3. Election choices are clearer than ever.
4. Connecting to family is 10X better over video than by phone. I had never used any video platform until about 2 weeks ago, now I have multiple options ready to go, depending on who and why.
I feel like the impression of "preppers," by non-preppers, is that they are always preparing to protect themselves and do everything alone. This could be the perfect opportunity to nuance that impression a bit by people openly preparing to be ready to help others in their community. Both prepping can be done simultaneously. I all finding things are still relatively on the helpful and pleasant side and I like to see that.
I feel like the impression of "preppers," by non-preppers, is that they are always preparing to protect themselves and do everything alone. This could be the perfect opportunity to nuance that impression a bit by people openly preparing to be ready to help others in their community. Both prepping can be done simultaneously. I all finding things are still relatively on the helpful and pleasant side and I like to see that.
Indeed. The point of having now is so that others won't be without later. If someone has 6 months of food stored, that's 6 months of not consuming the food of those who could not, or did not, prepare at the time of its being needed.
The other thing is if there's say... a known "this will normalize in a month" situation. That's 6 people eating for a month.
Not being stressed due to being prepared assists the individual in helping others.
Indeed. The point of having now is so that others won't be without later. If someone has 6 months of food stored, that's 6 months of not consuming the food of those who could not, or did not, prepare at the time of its being needed.
The other thing is if there's say... a known "this will normalize in a month" situation. That's 6 people eating for a month.
Not being stressed due to being prepared assists the individual in helping others.
Great points both of you!
I suspect there will be new found respect for "preppers" after this and hopefully more folks will be prepared.
Learning that I have to be cognizant of how long the vehicles sit. Ensuring that batteries dont die, move them occasionally, etc. My wife went tried to make a run the other day to find that the car wouldn't start. Fuel pressure had bleed down.
hollohas
04-06-2020, 13:48
I've learned that prepping really does work.
We've made sure to have what we need for over a decade now. And although I wondered if it's worth it many times, turns out it was. Truly, when I'm at home with my family safe and provided for, despite what's going on outside, I am happy. I spend all day at work worrying about stuff, but when I get home, I forget it all because I know what's most important is safe. The evenings and weekends at my house are like they've always been. The peace of mind has been extremely valuable for my mental health.
That said, if I had a chance to do this over, I'd prepare more financially. I just don't think our savings would be enough to make it through this if it lasted too many months, especially if my work/pay was cut.
I started an indoor hydroponic setup a month ago when fresh produce was hard to come by. I should have done that A LONG time ago. I garden a lot and get tons of produce from our yard. More than enough for our family to eat and can hundreds of jars each year...during the summer. Turns out, we want fresh greens year-round and not just during the growing season. Micro greens are a good way to get some quickly, but the wife wants salads. It'd sure have been nice to have the hydroponics setup, running and producing already.
Also, I need to make sure I get some highway driving in on the diesel. I just realized I haven't done that in a while.
These are great takeaways. I'm still learning things, just reading your impressions. Keep them coming!
I've learned that this is a great incentive to do some spring cleaning.
StagLefty
04-07-2020, 09:15
I was an active prepper before retiring and that has paid off during this crisis. Income slowed down my prepping the last few years but I see the need to budget restocking after this is over.
The internet during this time has more than paid for itself tenfold. Prescription refills, even some OTC medications, ordering groceries,paying bills,getting unbiased news and updates, etc. I've been learning more and more about the capabilities I have at my disposal right here in the house.
The needs of others around me and checking on them often to see if I can help them or they can sometimes help me. Not taking everyday things for granted during this time.
The realization that this is affecting the world and not just my little sphere of life !!!
I learned that I qualify for some financial assistance even though I'm a freelance consultant:
Here’s how freelancers can get unemployment pay for work lost to coronavirus (https://www-latimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-04-03/freelancers-unemployment-pay-coronavirus)
I learned that I qualify for some financial assistance even though I'm a freelance consultant:
Here’s how freelancers can get unemployment pay for work lost to coronavirus (https://www-latimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-04-03/freelancers-unemployment-pay-coronavirus)
I mentioned that in another thread, but someone else posted an article about how small business loans weren't being fulfilled. Let us know what happened if you go through the process. I don't really want to take on more debt I'd I can avoid it, so I'm interested in how likely it is to convert to a grant.
I learned that working from home costs me money.
On a normal day, if I got an email about something cool that was on sale I would usually miss out by the time I saw the email and tried to place an order.
Now, as soon as I get an email with a good deal, I can jump right on it and place an order.
Probably spent roughly $200 a week over the last three weeks on fun stuff.
Having had to actually cook lately, I discovered this is BS.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200407/ebc5f4c3bb3271659599d130664030ca.jpg
Fourteen minutes into preparation and the water hasn?t gotten to a boil yet.
Stop watching the pot.
Turn on the stove, if you haven't. ;)
Having had to actually cook lately, I discovered this is BS.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200407/ebc5f4c3bb3271659599d130664030ca.jpg
Fourteen minutes into preparation and the water hasn?t gotten to a boil yet.
Start with hot water from the tap and put that sucker on "Hi".
Start with hot water from the tap and put that sucker on "Hi".
I did.
In all fairness, I was standing there watching the pot and waiting for it to boil.
hollohas
04-07-2020, 13:07
Having had to actually cook lately, I discovered this is BS.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200407/ebc5f4c3bb3271659599d130664030ca.jpg
Fourteen minutes into preparation and the water hasn?t gotten to a boil yet.
That is BS. False advertising. Did you return it? Maybe a class action lawsuit is in order...
I need to grow some vegetables...
Great-Kazoo
04-07-2020, 13:59
Having had to actually cook lately, I discovered this is BS.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200407/ebc5f4c3bb3271659599d130664030ca.jpg
Fourteen minutes into preparation and the water hasn?t gotten to a boil yet.
Instant pot it. reduce the al dente time or how ever you like it by 1/2. Approx 8 minutes to come to temp and pressure, before timer kicks in.
They say to shut down and release pressure after timer goes off. I've found you turn off and let sit 30ish seconds before venting. . Pasta is trial & error. It cooks most pastas well.
EXCEPT: angel hair pasta. If you need to do some body work, there's natural bondo ready in 3 minutes, or plaster a wall.
I'm too picky about the texture of my pasta to go the Instant Pot route.
Instant pot it. reduce the al dente time or how ever you like it by 1/2. Approx 8 minutes to come to temp and pressure, before timer kicks in.
They say to shut down and release pressure after timer goes off. I've found you turn off and let sit 30ish seconds before venting. . Pasta is trial & error. It cooks most pastas well.
EXCEPT: angel hair pasta. If you need to do some body work, there's natural bondo ready in 3 minutes, or plaster a wall.
Nice. If I find I have to feed myself for too much longer I might have to get one of those.
I'm too picky about the texture of my pasta to go the Instant Pot route.
So, do you prefer a limp noodle or do you like it a little firmer?
I like my pasta al dente.
I'm not going to be a party to your noodle hot tub fantasy.[hahhah-no]
I don?t speak French but I think that means crunchy.
I don?t speak French but I think that means crunchy.
http://youtu.be/fMc2KcUmSQ0
StagLefty
04-07-2020, 16:40
Having had to actually cook lately, I discovered this is BS.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200407/ebc5f4c3bb3271659599d130664030ca.jpg
Fourteen minutes into preparation and the water hasn?t gotten to a boil yet.
Walmart has the pre-boil water available now [Sarcasm2]
Walmart has the pre-boil water available now [Sarcasm2]
It's next to the microwaveable water.
blacklabel
04-07-2020, 18:25
I learned that working from home costs me money.
That's the freakin' truth. Work slows down and boom I'm browsing for crap I don't need.
I learned that I qualify for some financial assistance even though I'm a freelance consultant:
Here?s how freelancers can get unemployment pay for work lost to coronavirus (https://www-latimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-04-03/freelancers-unemployment-pay-coronavirus)
Not yet... (https://www.colorado.gov/cdle/unemployment)
The Colorado Department of Labor and Employment (CDLE) has a variety of resources for workers and resources for employers who are impacted by the Coronavirus.
IMPORTANT NOTICE: The CARES Act has been signed into law, but those benefits are not yet available until we receive official guidance from the U.S. Department of Labor.
*For those who are self-employed, independent contractors, gig-economy workers, and employees of nonprofit churches or other religious organizations, or who are requesting an extension of benefits, please check back with this page for the latest information. We will update this site and notify news outlets when we are ready to accept claims.
Great-Kazoo
04-07-2020, 19:34
I'm too picky about the texture of my pasta to go the Instant Pot route.
Once you get the hang of it, you'll be the next (dare i say ) sou vide raving, pasta guy . I always do 1/2 the time listed for al dente, then reduce by another minute. The thicker pastas, rigatoni, bowties, elbows etc are like a 10 min start to finish, if that.
My napping is impossible with home schooling
hollohas
04-07-2020, 19:48
I've learned a lot more about cooking pasta then I ever thought possible.
gnihcraes
04-07-2020, 19:54
1. I dearly miss my friend and neighbor who is fighting this virus. Acquired it a few weeks back and eventually became bad enough for the hospital. Been in ICU for a week or more. Still fighting.
2. I'm essential and didn't believe it. Sucks. Many of my co-workers are getting paid the same and sitting at home with their "Duty Station Closed" and mine is "open". Owell.
3. Family believes in my prepping, supply and food storage. Even if not completely perfect.
4. Glad I have too many hobbies or projects to keep me busy and not having to leave the house much. I'm not bored really. It's forcing me to work on some things I've put off.
Once you get the hang of it, you'll be the next (dare i say ) sou vide raving, pasta guy . I always do 1/2 the time listed for al dente, then reduce by another minute. The thicker pastas, rigatoni, bowties, elbows etc are like a 10 min start to finish, if that.
I don't understand sou vide. If I'm going to cook something slowly, hardwood smoke is involved.
I don't understand sou vide. If I'm going to cook something slowly, hardwood smoke is involved.
I just go old school when I slow cook. Crockpot all the way.
I think you guys are missing the point of sous vide. Not everything in life is about making things faster.
Last week, I cooked a dozen eggs hard boiled. Anyone can boil some eggs so this is but one example of cooking something sous vide style is not about making things easier. It's about making them better. I set the temp on my Anova Precision Cooker to 165 degrees and dropped the eggs in the warm bath. 45min later I had the most amazing hard boiled eggs you've ever eaten. The white was firm but not dry with the perfect tender texture. The yolk was fully cooked but also moist and perfectly tender. It's hard to describe and possibly even imagine how something like a hard boiled egg could be that much better, but it is. Even I owned a sous vide for years before I tried using it to hard boil eggs because... how different could it really be and why would I do that when I could just boil them in 1/3 the time. Well, I'm glad I did because I'll never go back to just boiling eggs. As an added twist, you can fine tune the temperature to your liking and the end result will vary wildly. I've even used it to make effortless poached eggs.
Another day last week I made pork chops. These were a family pack I bought back when King Soopers had them for like $1.37/lb so I stocked up. Vacuum sealed them and tossed them in the freezer. A couple of hours before we ate I threw them in a sous vide bath straight from the freezer. Two hours later, perfect medium rare pork chops from edge to edge. Since it was a nice day the wife and I were out on a bike ride when they finished. We got home 30-minutes later and the pork chops were still perfectly cooked medium-rare from edge to edge waiting in the sous vide bath for when it was convenient for us to throw a sear on them and serve them up. I could have left them in there another hour or more if I had to and they would have been the same. Sous vide is perfect for something like pork chops. Most overcook them for "safety" purposes and because of that many don't even like pork chops. They think they're dry and leathery with limited pork taste. Eat a sous vide medium rare pork chop and it will change your opinion on pork chops. They're incredible.
I'll give you another idea of what you can do and something we do regularly. When King Soopers has their bone-in ribeyes on sale for $4.77/lb I stock up on the family packs. I individually vacuum seal and freeze them when I get them home. I took two of the dozen or so coolers I have and hole cut the lid large enough for the sous vide to go through the lid. Then, on a day we want to eat steak for dinner, I put the two steaks in the cooler and fill it with ice and then water before we leave the house. Then, about an hour before we got off of work I open the Anova app on my phone and set the temp to 130 degrees (you can choose different temperature based on what doneness you prefer). At home, the Anova Precision cooker will come on, melt the ice and bring the water up to 130 degrees in short order. Regardless of traffic or any errands we run before getting home the steaks are sitting in a warm bath perfectly cooked to medium-rare from edge to edge with zero effort. When we're ready to sit down to eat or whatever sides we're making are done I heat up a pan on the stove and give them a quick sear on each side for about a minute or less. Sometimes I use a torch. Just depends on the mood really. They steaks are perfectly cooked every time in a manner that simply isn't possible with any other method. Other methods reward you with a nice medium-rare strip down the middle and then awful medium well to well-done the other 80% as you go towards the surface... and that's if you get it just right and devote your time to being right next to it baby sitting it to near perfection. Why not apply less effort, take slightly longer (if it's not frozen you're looking at about 45min) and have something that's absolutely perfect each and every time?
There's many other things you can not only make better than you currently do but it's effortless. It's not ideal for every situation but, like my toolbox in my garage, it's nice to have options. You can select the best tool for the job which makes life better. I have an oven (w/convection option), microwave, Ninja crockpot, electric and pellet smokers, George Foreman Grill, quesadilla maker and probably a dozen other cooking devices I'm not even thinking if. Sure, you can use a screwdriver to pound a nail in but I'd much rather use a hammer. It make take a little bit longer to go into the house and get the hammer but in the end the job will be done better and easier. It's the same as arguing that people don't need that new fandangled microwave because an oven already heats up food. It's just nice to have options and a precision cooker isn't trying to replace every cooking tool you already own.
We have an entire thread dedicated to sous vide cooking so I'd suggest checking it out. Much of what I said above is in that thread as well but I have a feeling there's a lot of people who say the thread title and never even read it because "why would I boil meat?" or similar reasons since they don't understand it. As this isn't a sous vide thread I've already got pretty deep into the weeds.
tldr; If you're a foody and have never tried the sous vide method via a precision cooker you're really missing out.
So, I assume a guy could drive home from crossfit in his electric vehicle and sous vide himself a healthy dinner?
I learned there's another topic that I should just leave alone....like it was never there.
Great-Kazoo
04-08-2020, 09:37
I think you guys are missing the point of sous vide. Not everything in life is about making things faster.
Last week, I cooked a dozen eggs hard boiled. Anyone can boil some eggs so this is but one example of cooking something sous vide style is not about making things easier. It's about making them better. I set the temp on my Anova Precision Cooker to 165 degrees and dropped the eggs in the warm bath. 45min later I had the most amazing hard boiled eggs you've ever eaten. The white was firm but not dry with the perfect tender texture. The yolk was fully cooked but also moist and perfectly tender. It's hard to describe and possibly even imagine how something like a hard boiled egg could be that much better, but it is. Even I owned a sous vide for years before I tried using it to hard boil eggs because... how different could it really be and why would I do that when I could just boil them in 1/3 the time. Well, I'm glad I did because I'll never go back to just boiling eggs. As an added twist, you can fine tune the temperature to your liking and the end result will vary wildly. I've even used it to make effortless poached eggs.
Another day last week I made pork chops. These were a family pack I bought back when King Soopers had them for like $1.37/lb so I stocked up. Vacuum sealed them and tossed them in the freezer. A couple of hours before we ate I threw them in a sous vide bath straight from the freezer. Two hours later, perfect medium rare pork chops from edge to edge. Since it was a nice day the wife and I were out on a bike ride when they finished. We got home 30-minutes later and the pork chops were still perfectly cooked medium-rare from edge to edge waiting in the sous vide bath for when it was convenient for us to throw a sear on them and serve them up. I could have left them in there another hour or more if I had to and they would have been the same. Sous vide is perfect for something like pork chops. Most overcook them for "safety" purposes and because of that many don't even like pork chops. They think they're dry and leathery with limited pork taste. Eat a sous vide medium rare pork chop and it will change your opinion on pork chops. They're incredible.
I'll give you another idea of what you can do and something we do regularly. When King Soopers has their bone-in ribeyes on sale for $4.77/lb I stock up on the family packs. I individually vacuum seal and freeze them when I get them home. I took two of the dozen or so coolers I have and hole cut the lid large enough for the sous vide to go through the lid. Then, on a day we want to eat steak for dinner, I put the two steaks in the cooler and fill it with ice and then water before we leave the house. Then, about an hour before we got off of work I open the Anova app on my phone and set the temp to 130 degrees (you can choose different temperature based on what doneness you prefer). At home, the Anova Precision cooker will come on, melt the ice and bring the water up to 130 degrees in short order. Regardless of traffic or any errands we run before getting home the steaks are sitting in a warm bath perfectly cooked to medium-rare from edge to edge with zero effort. When we're ready to sit down to eat or whatever sides we're making are done I heat up a pan on the stove and give them a quick sear on each side for about a minute or less. Sometimes I use a torch. Just depends on the mood really. They steaks are perfectly cooked every time in a manner that simply isn't possible with any other method. Other methods reward you with a nice medium-rare strip down the middle and then awful medium well to well-done the other 80% as you go towards the surface... and that's if you get it just right and devote your time to being right next to it baby sitting it to near perfection. Why not apply less effort, take slightly longer (if it's not frozen you're looking at about 45min) and have something that's absolutely perfect each and every time?
There's many other things you can not only make better than you currently do but it's effortless. It's not ideal for every situation but, like my toolbox in my garage, it's nice to have options. You can select the best tool for the job which makes life better. I have an oven (w/convection option), microwave, Ninja crockpot, electric and pellet smokers, George Foreman Grill, quesadilla maker and probably a dozen other cooking devices I'm not even thinking if. Sure, you can use a screwdriver to pound a nail in but I'd much rather use a hammer. It make take a little bit longer to go into the house and get the hammer but in the end the job will be done better and easier. It's the same as arguing that people don't need that new fandangled microwave because an oven already heats up food. It's just nice to have options and a precision cooker isn't trying to replace every cooking tool you already own.
We have an entire thread dedicated to sous vide cooking so I'd suggest checking it out. Much of what I said above is in that thread as well but I have a feeling there's a lot of people who say the thread title and never even read it because "why would I boil meat?" or similar reasons since they don't understand it. As this isn't a sous vide thread I've already got pretty deep into the weeds.
tldr; If you're a foody and have never tried the sous vide method via a precision cooker you're really missing out.
And you missed my sarcasm of SV.
You need that many to cook ? While some items have simplified cooking. The real test is working with the basics and producing good meals.
Look for some it's a great way to cook. For me, that's too long to cook a prime rib steak. I can do as tender, cooked exactly the way i want with lots of flavor. Using a reverse sear. It's not so much the tools used to cook, as it is the person cooking.
If it works for you, go for it.
BushMasterBoy
04-08-2020, 10:04
I have been coughing for 52 days now. I learned I need 6 packs of cough medicine. An inhaler like an asthmatic. Lots of benadryl because sometimes it is the only thing that will stop the cough. You will have to get used to lying in bed. You will need a great health insurance plan because the ER visits can bankrupt you. And you need Netflix...
I have been coughing for 52 days now. I learned I need 6 packs of cough medicine. An inhaler like an asthmatic. Lots of benadryl because sometimes it is the only thing that will stop the cough. You will have to get used to lying in bed. You will need a great health insurance plan because the ER visits can bankrupt you. And you need Netflix...
Sweet title, bro.
Hope you get better soon. Really soon.
So, I assume a guy could drive home from crossfit in his electric vehicle and sous vide himself a healthy dinner?
You also left out guns... oh, wait I forgot that you conveniently forget the things that we have in common because it helps you lump me in with "them" rather than consider something outside of your comfort zone as possibly being positive.
I learned there's another topic that I should just leave alone....like it was never there.
You literally said:
I don't understand sou vide. If I'm going to cook something slowly, hardwood smoke is involved.
So I was giving some examples and ways it could be used that were beneficial.
And you missed my sarcasm of SV.
You need that many to cook ? While some items have simplified cooking. The real test is working with the basics and producing good meals.
Look for some it's a great way to cook. For me, that's too long to cook a prime rib steak. I can do as tender, cooked exactly the way i want with lots of flavor. Using a reverse sear. It's not so much the tools used to cook, as it is the person cooking.
If it works for you, go for it.
I don't need that many devices to cook just like I don't need a garage full of tools? I'm sure glad that I invested in them whenever I need one and it makes my life better if even only for a brief moment. I bet you could probably get by owning just a single firearm and get really good with it so that you can make it sufficient for all tasks so why own more than one firearm?
Sure, I can use the basics and master them (I feel like I've been cooking now for several decades and have advanced through most of them at a pretty high level) just fine but the same could be said for your fancy oven at one point in time.
"Hey, you got an oven which helps to more conveniently cook better food but why do you even need it when you have a fire burning already to keep the house warm? Seems you're just a dummy who can't use your fire properly."
Just because I sous vide something one day doesn't mean I can't cook over camp fire the next. Just because I have a hammer doesn't mean I don't know how to use a screwdriver. I just prefer to use a screwdriver for screws and a hammer for nails. You're welcome to bang nails with a screwdriver at it though and "master" it and then look down your nose at me for choosing a better option. That's fine.
The irony isn't lost on me that the same guy who professes that you don't need to have that many tools (2) to get a better quality steak with less work also uses the same number of tools (2) to reverse sear in an effort to achieve better results. To really blow your mind: "reverse searing" a steak is exactly what sous vide is with a more precise tool that can yield better results and requires less effort.
Calm down Jer, they're just giving you a hard time.
Great-Kazoo
04-08-2020, 11:46
Calm down Jer, they're just giving you a hard time.
Shhhh he'll hear you .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LXJedf0_hw
Doing more cooking/experimenting is all around good advice. Keeps you busy and opens up possibilities with the fresh items you can still find at the story.
Someone on another pointed out how appliances of all kinds were going up in price. Example was coffee makers. I went to Amazon and confirmed nearly all espresso machines were going up price. I guess when folks can't go to Starbucks they start making at home. Lesson there too, if you need it you'll either pay a premium or it's too late.
You also left out guns... oh, wait I forgot that you conveniently forget the things that we have in common because it helps you lump me in with "them" rather than consider something outside of your comfort zone as possibly being positive.
Sorry. I was just poking fun at your expense. It?s common knowledge that there are things you are more passionate about than most. Just having some minor fun at your expense. Nothing personal.
I do 98% of this stuff from my phone and can?t post cute little smileys to show I?m not just being a douche bag.
You literally said:
So I was giving some examples and ways it could be used that were beneficial.
I know how they work, but I don't get what the rage is. I've had steaks at my SiL's that were sous vide and reverse seared, and we can do better at home with a cast iron skillet and some butter. Letting something swim in a plastic bag for hours just doesn't blow my skirt up. I never said your baby was ugly, just that I don't want one.
Take a 22lr with you when your using a chronograph. Cheap and easy to test your set up and make sure your getting a reading. More fun then tossing rocks.
If you think cat piss smells good, wait till you get a wiff of hot cat piss. Really takes it up a notch.
Great-Kazoo
04-08-2020, 19:39
If you think cat piss smells good, wait till you get a wiff of hot cat piss. Really takes it up a notch.
Taking furries to another level?
Not body temp hot. Cutting through piss soaked wood with a dull blade hot.
ChickNorris
04-08-2020, 19:52
I had to scroll back up to sort which thread I was actually in.
It's the post what you learnt thread.
ChickNorris
04-08-2020, 20:22
& i did
hollohas
04-08-2020, 20:32
Not body temp hot. Cutting through piss soaked wood with a dull blade hot.This requires some background information I think...
How many cats we talking? And why are you cutting their outhouse up?
I learned that if I kick the bucket I don't want my family to go through my rat's nest of a house so I better get rid of things I don't need and clean it up some. One unfortunate consequence of living alone is that I have a lot of room to put shit into that I don't need.
This requires some background information I think...
How many cats we talking? And why are you cutting their outhouse up?
Office cat has other cats follow into the office and pees on the 5" base trim. Installed new floors and put 3/4" quarter round at the base. Cutting the doorways to slip the floor under and some of them were apparently pee'd on. Gross.
I learned that if I kick the bucket I don't want my family to go through my rat's nest of a house so I better get rid of things I don't need and clean it up some. One unfortunate consequence of living alone is that I have a lot of room to put shit into that I don't need.
If you're giving stuff away, let me know about any fabrication tools you might have.
I learned how much my "fellows" (not talking on this site, btw) will blindly lemming whatever the government does. Conservatives, libertarians, etc.
How easy it is to create a modern group of Karens analogous to the predecessor of "brown shirts".
How quickly people will defend gov' spending of any level so long as the gov placates them by giving 10% or less of the money "printed" to the people who owe the whole bill.
How many people openly advocate for a recession when it serves their political interests (even some talk show hosts openly praising the recession).
How fragile our country really is. I mean, I know it wasn't optimal before, but daaaaaym. The future is not so hot.
I've also learned that what's broad public knowledge is a secret to government health experts for at least 2+ months.
Conversely, I was wildly surprised at how much political capital certain people tried to get out of this and the overreaction.
Initially I was just trying to educate people to take it seriously (see early thread). Then I flipped, couldn't have imagined our government would shoot us to "save us".
There was intelligent options available, but I should have known that was an oxymoron with gov.
AFA personal life, I need more $ to have more prep, but I sort've did the best I could. I do need to plan for covering even more people (cast a big shadow), but I can't print money like the government.
ETA: On one plus note, I was suprised that people individually started taking it seriously and maybe our culture will become more accepting of "sickness masks" and you know, regular hygiene. It would be great to get sick less just because there's fewer tards.
I've enjoyed watching my family do a slow 180 turn to taking this more seriously.
I've enjoyed watching my family do a slow 180 turn to taking this more seriously.
I learned how much my "fellows" (not talking on this site, btw) will blindly lemming whatever the government does. Conservatives, libertarians, etc.
How easy it is to create a modern group of Karens analogous to the predecessor of "brown shirts".
How quickly people will defend gov' spending of any level so long as the gov placates them by giving 10% or less of the money "printed" to the people who owe the whole bill.
How many people openly advocate for a recession when it serves their political interests (even some talk show hosts openly praising the recession).
How fragile our country really is. I mean, I know it wasn't optimal before, but daaaaaym. The future is not so hot.
I've also learned that what's broad public knowledge is a secret to government health experts for at least 2+ months.
Conversely, I was wildly surprised at how much political capital certain people tried to get out of this and the overreaction.
Initially I was just trying to educate people to take it seriously (see early thread). Then I flipped, couldn't have imagined our government would shoot us to "save us".
There was intelligent options available, but I should have known that was an oxymoron with gov.
AFA personal life, I need more $ to have more prep, but I sort've did the best I could. I do need to plan for covering even more people (cast a big shadow), but I can't print money like the government.
ETA: On one plus note, I was suprised that people individually started taking it seriously and maybe our culture will become more accepting of "sickness masks" and you know, regular hygiene. It would be great to get sick less just because there's fewer tards.
To some extent we've all done a slow 180 but I think a whole lot more tards are going to have to die off before we develop a resilient hygienic society. To endure as survivors we have to be better, stronger, smarter than the government. Prepping isn't just a quaint hobby, it's do or die. You can't eat cable TV. Maybe three wives and two kitchens isn't a bad idea. There's a reason why some Americans hold a neighborhood level arsenal. It isn't only turnips growing in the garden. Behind every blade of grass....
& i did
Yep. I think I could have gone my entire life without having that mental picture.
Bailey Guns
04-09-2020, 10:57
Office cat has other cats follow into the office and pees on the 5" base trim. Installed new floors and put 3/4" quarter round at the base. Cutting the doorways to slip the floor under and some of them were apparently pee'd on. Gross.
A Jack Russell will quickly take care of that cat problem.
A Jack Russell will quickly take care of that cat problem.
So will a pellet gun.
Bailey Guns
04-09-2020, 11:03
A JR will give you plausible deniability...in case that's an issue.
*Naming my pellet gun Jack Russell*
Bailey Guns
04-09-2020, 11:11
:)
BushMasterBoy
04-09-2020, 11:46
I learned British Airways will cancel your flight after you arrive in a foreign country. Then they will charge you a same amount to get back to the US after you already paid for a round trip ticket. I also learned that USAA credit card company will also side with the airline. After bombarding USAA with documents, they will only refund half of what the airlines ripped you off. The airline will refuse to answer any phone calls.
I learned British Airways will cancel your flight after you arrive in a foreign country. Then they will charge you a same amount to get back to the US after you already paid for a round trip ticket. I also learned that USAA credit card company will also side with the airline. After bombarding USAA with documents, they will only refund half of what the airlines ripped you off. The airline will refuse to answer any phone calls.
You could try coughing on them.
<MADDOG>
04-14-2020, 19:18
I underestimated this...
A) I should have a freezer
B) I should have paid off my mortgage quicker
C) Get off the grid quicker
D) People break down quicker than I would have thought, but yet and still, they are stronger at the same time...
ChickNorris
04-14-2020, 20:48
I learned Birthdays under quarantine are a little boring.
Still a lovely day.
And still your birthday. ;)
Sent from somewhere...
Because of the toilet paper shortages, I've learned that apparently some people shit a LOT more than the rest of us......
I recently learned that if I am working from home and don?t stay real busy I kind of feel guilty but if I?m actually at work but not really doing anything then my conscience is clear. Weird.
I recently learned that if I am working from home and don?t stay real busy I kind of feel guilty but if I?m actually at work but not really doing anything then my conscience is clear. Weird.
In most instances, the 40 hour workweek is a bit of a sham. Historically, we have worked in cycles of sprint/recovery. This not only follows the reality of the agrarian cycles (as well as hunting/gathering), but is psychologically healthy. Even in a synthetic 40 hour work week, we see this reality playing out over and over with the exception of certain types of work.
I recently learned that if I am working from home and don?t stay real busy I kind of feel guilty but if I?m actually at work but not really doing anything then my conscience is clear. Weird.
The asses in seats thing, vs work product thing.
I have very recently learned that some people should just stick to the TP section.
In most instances, the 40 hour workweek is a bit of a sham. Historically, we have worked in cycles of sprint/recovery. This not only follows the reality of the agrarian cycles (as well as hunting/gathering), but is psychologically healthy. Even in a synthetic 40 hour work week, we see this reality playing out over and over with the exception of certain types of work.
Not sure I understood this.
I will say I often work more than 40 hours a week. As far as actual work performed during that time I would guess maybe 25 to 30 hours. Probably being generous there.
Not sure I understood this.
I will say I often work more than 40 hours a week. As far as actual work performed during that time I would guess maybe 25 to 30 hours. Probably being generous there.
Time in office != actual work, in most instances (as you are aware). The idea of a 40 hour work week (or whatever) is novel and a vestige of the post-industrial age. Historically, people worked in sprints. Maybe a 10 hour+ day for 6 days a week during the planting/harvest seasons, but maybe 2-3 hours a day otherwise if that.
Psychologically, "the grind" is bad. Better to have goals and accomplish them. This isn't really possible when in the boundary of a set number of hours and results in lower work output and probably quality.
I have very recently learned that some people should just stick to the TP section.
Yep. I don't cruise the TP since I have no money for toys and don't need to tease myself. Seeing some posts by folks unfamiliar to me that I really didn't need to see.
Little Dutch
04-22-2020, 13:50
I've learned my beard doesn't look any better now than it did the last time I grew one. I periodically do a trial-run and always think it ends up looking goofy.
I don't know what Ray's conclusion was about working from home, but I find that I get more done over-all. Even with the kids here.
I learned that my food / supplies storage was mostly adequate, with the notable exception of baby formula and beer.
I learned that my cat will gladly share my office chair for hours instead of just vacating it when I sit down. It's not comfortable for me, but he doesn't seem to care.
Little Dutch
04-22-2020, 13:57
Because of the toilet paper shortages, I've learned that apparently some people shit a LOT more than the rest of us......
My oldest son just turned 3 last week. He's getting better, but hasn't learned to portion out toilet paper yet. I learned that he can clog a toilet several times a day, and that each time he does my TP roll stash goes down by one.
The point is that I'm not sure it's that some people shit a whole lot more, maybe they just never learned to wipe efficiently.
I don't know what Ray's conclusion was about working from home, but I find that I get more done over-all. Even with the kids here.
Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) for me, about 95% of my work is hands on and has to be done in the field. Realistically, I couldn?t do my job from home.
It is somewhat nice right now that the 5% I can do on the computer can be done from home. Before, I would get my work done for the week and try and get to the office at the end of the week to generate and submit reports. Now I do my work for the week and then go home to do the paperwork.
Fentonite
04-22-2020, 18:26
I learned that the food I historically enjoyed at local pubs/eateries really isn’t appealing at home without the booze and atmosphere of said pub/eatery.
ChickNorris
04-22-2020, 18:29
I learned that the food I historically enjoyed at local pubs/eateries really isn?t appealing at home without the booze and atmosphere of said pub/eatery.
I often bring home a quart of Bull & Bush's green chili as take out. No slight on the establishment in any way but Im always happier with it @ home.
Unless its brunch.
Looking forward to them reopening.
I learned that the food I historically enjoyed at local pubs/eateries really isn?t appealing at home without the booze and atmosphere of said pub/eatery.
Amen.
Sometimes it?s about the overall experience and ambiance.
My favorite thing is to eat one meal in the day, usually around 3 in the afternoon. Kind of a late lunch or early dinner depending how you want to look at it. We usually do it on Saturday or sometimes Sunday. The meal typically involves cold beer on tap, an appetizer, and the meal. It?s something the wife and I typically enjoy doing once a week and if we can commute to and from the restaurant on the motorcycles then that is just icing on the cake.
Some of the things I've learned from China-Virus-2019:
-my neighbors still have probably-illegal maid staff come in weekly with no clue where those people have been.
-my neighbors don't have even three days of supplies on hand.
-my neighbors think that anyone who has supplies will obviously share and deplete their own stash so we all run out together.
...the list could go on.
I just learned hatidua is all up in his neighbors business. Lol.
Great-Kazoo
04-22-2020, 19:33
I just learned hatidua is all up in his neighbors business. Lol.
OH sure you took him off ignore ;)
FWIW: there was racks of TP and More cheetos at wallyworld this a.m.
If anyone needs some, i can flat rate lg box and youse can fight over it.
encorehunter
04-22-2020, 20:34
I have learned that our food supplies were quite adequate, but dont last as long with three growing boys. We might need to get a milk cow, as they are drinking about a gallon a day.
Neighbors have asked about getting some ammo, which concerns me about what they suspect of me. I havent sold any yet. Neighbors are not as prepared as they drive up and down the road often. Only 5 families live above us. One neighbor is interested in buying three goats now.
I was somewhat concerned about TP, as the shortage hit when we only had 6 rolls left from our month supply. We got lucky and found a package and are set again.
I need to set up some solar panels and batteries for a back up to the back up generator. We have done more drying for preserving food to get it out of the freezers. We will be pressure canning more of the food to try and down size freezers.
The pigs are very expensive to feed with the restaurant closed. They eat about 150 lbs a week. A friend has been getting one load of near expired/expired food a week and has been giving it to us. We go through it and preserve what is still good, the rest goes to the animals.
I carry a gun everywhere now, including around the house. It might have more to do with the miuntain lions though.
I just learned hatidua is all up in his neighbors business. Lol.
bless your heart :)
I learned that my cat will gladly share my office chair for hours instead of just vacating it when I sit down. It's not comfortable for me, but he doesn't seem to care.
Reading that with my literal mind, I'm envisioning someone sitting *ON* their cat.
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