View Full Version : Gun Control In The "Stimulus Package"?
DavieD55
04-11-2020, 10:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlEhnQbv7AY
Never let a crisis go to waste. I think we should do the same and get these clowns out of office.
It'd be nice to see a list of ALL the pork barrel spending built into this.
...but then you'd see the sausage being made.
There is absolutely a ton of pork attached to this, I just don't know the specifics.
The source he sites in the video is pudley. he is just wayne lapierre junior. make a living off of everyone's fear.
maybe this is real, maybe its not. I wouldnt trust pudley if he said the sky is blue, even if it was.
Yup. When people post a video regarding someone merely talking about something like this, I just about immediately give it zero credibility, no more than bubba talking about the latest rumor he "knows" at a gun store counter. We live in an age where bill texts are immediately available online from the moment of proposal, and even if not directly cited, it isn't overly difficult to provide images or direct quotations of the specific parts of respective bill(s) where their complaint rests.
Just because we're innately inclined to believe it has some sort of trap written into it doesn't mean we don't require someone bitching about it to prove it. We live in an age where traffic and clicks = payday, and there's just as many "conservatives" as "liberals" that manipulate the hell out of that.
JohnnyDrama
04-11-2020, 16:26
I was going to get on here and rant about not being able to find frozen pizza and all the women having their faces covered. It's almost like sharia law or something. But I digress.... Instead I saw this and clicked. I didn't look at the video but I did go to the congress.gov website and spent a little time looking at the bill. It seems to be quite a wish-list of demands. If y'all really have time on your hands here is a link https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717/text#toc-H0CE309557D6D4D78B1B29893582E4588.
Just for a taste, here is the summary I copied and pasted from that site:
Shown Here:
Introduced in House (01/30/2020)
Gun Violence Prevention and Community Safety Act of 2020
This bill makes various changes to the federal framework governing the sale, transfer, and possession of firearms and ammunition. Among other things, the bill does the following:
generally requires individuals to obtain a license to purchase, acquire, or possess a firearm or ammunition;
raises the minimum age?from 18 years to 21 years?to purchase firearms and ammunition;
establishes new background check requirements for firearm transfers between private parties;
requires law enforcement agencies to be notified following a firearms-related background check that results in a denial;
creates a statutory process for a family or household member to petition a court for an extreme risk protection order to remove firearms from an individual who poses a risk of committing violence;
restricts the import, sale, manufacture, transfer, or possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices;
restricts the manufacture, sale, transfer, purchase, or receipt of ghost guns (i.e., guns without serial numbers);
makes trafficking in firearms a stand-alone criminal offense;
requires federally licensed gun dealers to submit and annually certify compliance with a security plan to detect and deter firearm theft;
removes limitations on the civil liability of gun manufacturers;
allows the Consumer Product Safety Commission to issue safety standards for firearms and firearm components;
establishes a community violence intervention grant program; and
promotes research on firearms safety and gun violence prevention.
Pretty scary stuff.
While true, it should be observed in context that they introduce one every single legislative session without fail, and that's not part of the stimulus bill, in case anyone may have some confusion. There's also a separate thread for that specific bill, but they don't generate a lot of concern with most members unless we're in a session with a remote-chance-in-heck of it passing.
It's definitely a wish list, but that's about all it is this session and the last 20. We'll have to see what next year brings, though.
There is absolutely a ton of pork attached to this, I just don't know the specifics.
I've read most of the text of the $2.2T bill already passed. Essentially, almost every federal program got to increase their budget by 50-200 percent, along with a bunch (~$700B) of earmarks for shit that have nothing to do with public health. The Smithsonian got $25M, as did the Kennedy Center. The National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities each got $75M...There's $300 for the African Development Fund...
I've read most of the text of the $2.2T bill already passed. Essentially, almost every federal program got to increase their budget by 50-200 percent, along with a bunch (~$700B) of earmarks for shit that have nothing to do with public health. The Smithsonian got $25M, as did the Kennedy Center. The National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities each got $75M...There's $300 for the African Development Fund...
It's nuts. And the stimulus checks only cost about 237 billion ($1200) + about 40 billion total for all the children checks ($500). Literally payments to placate the people to not ask further questions where the rest goes. I've had conservatives tell me "shut up and just spend your money!".....
I've read most of the text of the $2.2T bill already passed. Essentially, almost every federal program got to increase their budget by 50-200 percent, along with a bunch (~$700B) of earmarks for shit that have nothing to do with public health. The Smithsonian got $25M, as did the Kennedy Center. The National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities each got $75M...There's $300 for the African Development Fund...
Yup, any excuse to increase the size of the federal government.
...and Trump signed it.
Who am I supposed to vote for in November? There isn't anyone running that is fiscally responsible.
The other problem is that Trump won't speak with authority against any governor that is grossly violating the 2nd.
Who am I supposed to vote for in November? There isn't anyone running that is fiscally responsible.
If fiscal responsibility is your voting issue, I guess you haven't voted....ever? [Coffee]
How is the President supposed to resolve 2A issues in the states? I only took high school civics, so maybe I missed how the President is able to change state regulation.
If fiscal responsibility is your voting issue, I guess you haven't voted....ever? [Coffee]
LOL
Just one of many issues I have. [Ban2]
If fiscal responsibility is your voting issue, I guess you haven't voted....ever? [Coffee]
How is the President supposed to resolve 2A issues in the states? I only took high school civics, so maybe I missed how the President is able to change state regulation.
They can write in Ron Paul? [Flower]
How is the President supposed to resolve 2A issues in the states? I only took high school civics, so maybe I missed how the President is able to change state regulation.
He should be out there reminding the states that any gun law is an infringement and therefore unconstitutional.
He had gun stores added to the ?essential business? guidance. It?s not his problem to solve. The AG is looking hard into what the governors are doing.
POTUS has bigger fish to fry right now.
He had gun stores added to the ?essential business? guidance. It?s not his problem to solve. The AG is looking hard into what the governors are doing.
POTUS has bigger fish to fry right now.
I was just speaking generally of missed/ignored opportunities in the past.
If fiscal responsibility is your voting issue, I guess you haven't voted....ever? [Coffee]
How is the President supposed to resolve 2A issues in the states? I only took high school civics, so maybe I missed how the President is able to change state regulation.
He can use his agencies to sue the states for civil rights violations.
He can use his agencies to sue the states for civil rights violations.
AG Barr has already stated that they're seriously looking into what the governors are doing.
DenverGP
04-15-2020, 10:06
He should be out there reminding the states that any gun law is an infringement and therefore unconstitutional.
Trump did his part with supreme court appointments... now we just need them to start taking the cases to shoot down the infringing laws.
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