M1 Garands

[BlasterBob]

Not much chatter about our M1 Garands. Guess they are all put away to prevent getting some type virus (rust).

[XJ]

If people would buy my ammo, their Garands would "ping" with happiness [Flower]

[bczandm]

XJ’s ammo is good quality stuff, if you have a Garand you need his ammo! Pre loaded on clips too.

[Hummer]

Covid-19 dies by the M1Rifle. I love my Garands every day and would buy more ammo but my limit is 27 cents per round for mil .30-06. But then, I still have a few Krounds. Call me old fashioned or call me a....

reloader. [39]

[BlasterBob]

Covid-19 dies by the M1Rifle. I love my Garands every day and would buy more ammo but my limit is 27 cents per round for mil .30-06. But then, I still have a few Krounds. Call me old fashioned or call me a....

reloader. [39]

Oh, I’d sure like to find a large lot of .30/06, safe for the Garand at around .27 cents per round but not someone else’s reloads. I do still have a few hundred rounds of M2 Ball, LC69. Guess it is being saved for the upcoming “apocalypse” or the “Purge”. LOL. [ROFL2]

[roberth]

I should get my Winchester out of the safe and to the range.

[BlasterBob]

Uncanny just how accurate these old “war horses” can be and with open sights at that. I have one of the later ones, an S.A. in the 6,000,000 batch. [blaster]

[10x]

In the early 1970's competing in Service Rifle class, had good results with gi barrels. Add glass bedding the action, match bullets in our own loads and match sights these were X ring capable rifles.

[wctriumph]

I should get my Winchester out of the safe and to the range.

Yes, you should !

[Hoser]

Mine is an old AF National Match rifle in 308.

[BlasterBob]

Mine is an old AF National Match rifle in 308.
Hoser, does your AF Match Garand have the little metal block installed in the chamber to prevent attempts to chamber .30/06 or did they install a barrel specifically made for the .308. Finally, is your’s chambered for .308 or 7.62X51? Thanks.[blaster]

[Hoser]

Hoser, does your AF Match Garand have the little metal block installed in the chamber to prevent attempts to chamber .30/06 or did they install a barrel specifically made for the .308. Finally, is your’s chambered for .308 or 7.62X51? Thanks.[blaster]

The magwell is blocked to prevent 30-06 rounds from fitting.

308.

[Gman]

The magwell is blocked to prevent 30-06 rounds from fitting.

308.

Does it handle 7.62x51 NATO as well? Seems like it would.

[Hoser]

Does it handle 7.62x51 NATO as well? Seems like it would.

No idea. All I have shot is reloads through it.

[Gman]

I don't reload, so all my M1A (.308) has seen is 7.62x51.

[tmjohnson]

Just got a Winchester garand made 1946
Love the ole girl

[Marine24]

Just picked up one to fill my Korean War era M1 Garand. Springfield action that dates to Apr 1943 with the date stamp of 2-52 behind the receiver, which was when Springfield ramped up for the Korean War. No idea if it ever made it over to the peninsula but good representative.

[BlasterBob]

Just picked up one to fill my Korean War era M1 Garand. Springfield action that dates to Apr 1943 with the date stamp of 2-52 behind the receiver, which was when Springfield ramped up for the Korean War. No idea if it ever made it over to the peninsula but good representative.

Just curious if the date STAMP is actually BEHIND the receiver? If so, where exactly?

[Marine24]

Here is a picture

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[BlasterBob]

Thanks for that picture. I have been messing around with M1 Garands for many years and have never seen such a stamp on that portion of the receiver. Thanks again. [blaster]

[Marine24]

Me either. Most of my collecting has revolved our WWII and Marine Corps M1s. When I started looking for a Korean War era Garand, I thought I would look for a rebuild with a WWII receiver and a barrel stamp from prior to or early in the Korean War (50-53).

Came across an article in American Rifleman on Post-World War II M1 Garand Rifles (https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/5/17/post-world-war-ii-m1-garand-rifles/). It talks about the SA-52 mark, as well as the 4,200,000 serial number.

[BlasterBob]

Marine24, I picked up a really late manufactured Garand, in the 6,000,000 serial number.

[Marine24]

Nice. Springfield or H&R? 56 or 57 DoM?


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[Hummer]

Me either. Most of my collecting has revolved our WWII and Marine Corps M1s. When I started looking for a Korean War era Garand, I thought I would look for a rebuild with a WWII receiver and a barrel stamp from prior to or early in the Korean War (50-53).

Came across an article in American Rifleman on Post-World War II M1 Garand Rifles (https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/5/17/post-world-war-ii-m1-garand-rifles/). It talks about the SA-52 mark, as well as the 4,200,000 serial number.



Excellent article as are all by Bruce Canfield. It explains why your Korean era SA-52 marked rifle has a low WWII serial number. I wonder if it might have the 5 plugged holes on the left side of the receiver as were made for future production M1C rifles? I also wonder if such plugged holes would even be detectable with refinishing and new parkerizing?

My Korean era Garands are like new arsenal rebuilds, HRA and SA in the 5.4 and 5.9 million serial ranges. A WWII Winchester would be sweet to have but the Korean era Garands were the best made with more refined machining.

[Marine24]

I'm not too familiar with the sniper variants of the M1 Garand (M1C and M1D). Have to rely on my friend, John Kelly, for that. I don't think mine falls in to the M1C receiver category based on serial number. Mine predates by over a year when the M1C was officially adopted in mid-1944. Based on a Bruce Canfield article, The M1C Garand Sniper Rifle (https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2014/8/29/the-m1c-garand-sniper-rifle/), the M1Cs were in the 3.1 to 3.8 million range. I just looked at the left side and there is no evidence of five holes in the receiver.

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[Hummer]

Interesting, thanks.

[BlasterBob]

Those two holes in stock were from installation of a rifle grenade sight.

[Marine24]

Thanks. That adds to its character.

[def90]

Yep, grenade sight

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[wctriumph]

Very cool guys!
My latest addition is a SA, sn dates to September-October 1955, barrel date is October 1955 making the rifle one month younger than me! Gauges 2 and 2+, fantastic shooter. CMP service grade. I will strip it down and check and record the drawing numbers, see what may be original and replaced.
I love these rifles, still trying to rescue a Winchester from CA, ongoing project with a few moving parts before I get it.

[BlasterBob]

Last M1 Garand that I got from the CMP also had the white painted numbers on one side of the butt stock close to the butt plate. I had a hell of a time trying to remove those painted numbers. Sure didn’t want to sand the stock so most of the painted area that is deep in the wood grain is just going to remain there and I can easily live with it. . [blaster]

[TheNash]

Ok fellas
I’ve been looking at the Garands for a while now. I could have gotten one from CMP but I would like to see what it looks like before buying it. I thought there was one on here for sale but I couldn’t find it yes I did use the search.

I found this one on arms list I don’t know enough about them if this is a fair price or not. Or maybe you can point me in the direction of one

https://www.armslist.com/posts/12985691/northern-ky-rifles-for-sale--h-r-arms-m1-garand-rifle--30-06-w-bayonet

Thanks for your help

[00tec]

Ok fellas
I’ve been looking at the Garands for a while now. I could have gotten one from CMP but I would like to see what it looks like before buying it. I thought there was one on here for sale but I couldn’t find it yes I did use the search.

I found this one on arms list I don’t know enough about them if this is a fair price or not. Or maybe you can point me in the direction of one

https://www.armslist.com/posts/12985691/northern-ky-rifles-for-sale--h-r-arms-m1-garand-rifle--30-06-w-bayonet

Thanks for your help
There was one here for sale a while back. Damn good looking in person.
Don't think the guy that has it is gonna let it go anytime soon.

[TheNash]

That’s the one I saw then it total disappeared. By chance was that you the got it?

[00tec]

That’s the one I saw then it total disappeared. By chance was that you the got it?

Was not me, another member got it for Christmas. Really nice rifle

[TheNash]

Dam it missed it by that much.

I’m hoping one of you guys can take a look at the arms list post to give me some directions

[wctriumph]

Way over priced for a CMP service grade. My experience with the CMP has been great, everything I purchased was better than described.
If you want a M1 rifle, buy from the CMP. Join the Garand Collector's Association (GCA), your CCW permit will qualify as the marksmanship requirement.
Don’t pay Armslist prices, support the CMP. You will get a solid shootable M1 Garand that you will enjoy for years.

[Marine24]

Agree. I've been after very specific M1 Garands and frequent Rock Island auctions and Proxibid. Going prices for Garands on Rock Island has been $1300 for mix master rebuilds and then add the buyer's premium on top of that.

[TheNash]

Way over priced for a CMP service grade. My experience with the CMP has been great, everything I purchased was better than described.
If you want a M1 rifle, buy from the CMP. Join the Garand Collector's Association (GCA), your CCW permit will qualify as the marksmanship requirement.
Don’t pay Armslist prices, support the CMP. You will get a solid shootable M1 Garand that you will enjoy for years.

I do belong to the GCA because if one came up I would be ready. There’s not that many of the higher grades coming down the pipe. I think I have found one In Colorado. I will let you guys know when because I will be asking a bunch of questions.
Thanks for the help

[wctriumph]

The CMP also has auctions on rarer M1 rifles. You should be able to find what you want there if you really want something rare and collectible.

[sneakerd]

The key is to buy more than one Service Grade at a time. If you only order one- you never know exactly what you will get, and the stocks will more than likely be firewood grade. Buy 5, build the best one out of the five using the best parts, clean up and sell the rest for a profit.

[Scanker19]

Ok fellas
I?ve been looking at the Garands for a while now. I could have gotten one from CMP but I would like to see what it looks like before buying it. I thought there was one on here for sale but I couldn?t find it yes I did use the search.

I found this one on arms list I don?t know enough about them if this is a fair price or not. Or maybe you can point me in the direction of one

https://www.armslist.com/posts/12985691/northern-ky-rifles-for-sale--h-r-arms-m1-garand-rifle--30-06-w-bayonet

Thanks for your help

Not knowing what you?re getting is half the fun.

[sneakerd]

Nowhere near as much fun as building one from the best parts- then building the rest and selling them.

[TheNash]

I found one which seems to be in really good shape. Since I hardly know anything about these rifles, would someone here be willing to look it over? Or be able to recommend a place or person. Yes I have watched YouTube videos and read, there’s still something about “the knowledge of hands on” if that makes sense.
Thanks

[TheNash]

I found a guy that works on the Grands, 30 Carbines, 1907 and so on. He went over the rifle with me and it ended up a course on the rifle over 2 hours and 45 bucks later I now know the workings and what to look for and a whole lot of tips and tricks. He does parkerizing, wood refinishing and so on. Here is his card.
85176

[Nagant1984]

Anybody order one from the CMP recently? I was thinking of picking up another one and see they have some Field Grade and Service grade available on the site.

[Scanker19]

I have an order in right now with them. Only field grades they have are winchesters, and the service is luck to the draw HRa or Springfield. For 1080 you can get a service grade IHC

[Nagant1984]

I have an order in right now with them. Only field grades they have are winchesters, and the service is luck to the draw HRa or Springfield. For 1080 you can get a service grade IHC

I was thinking of taking my chances on one of those field grade Winchesters considering the price is pretty good. I already have a Korean War Springfield which would probably be considered a service grade (I didn't get it from the CMP) so I'm really just looking for a WW2 piece for my collection. And since the Winchesters are all WW2 era I figured I'd be better off that way then potentially getting another post WW2 Springfield or something like that.

I just signed up for the Garand Collectors Association this week and waiting for my card so I can complete my paperwork with the CMP for one. I guess I missed the boat on those 1911s I heard about.

[Scanker19]

They just sold
Out of the Winchester field grades yesterday.

[wctriumph]

M1 Mouse

[Little Dutch]

I was expecting to have them in hand before Christmas, but I finally got my email this afternoon that the CMP received my order. I've only got 2 coming, fingers crossed they are okay. The timeline should be pretty quick now.

[doodguybro]

Mine shows up tomorrow! Was in line for a Field Grade, but switched to a Special Rack to get that fresh barrel and 3 months faster timeline. Got 200 rounds stocked for going out to the range. Best place to shoot 200 yard steel? I usually go to the keystone range but winter time isn't that fun up there, thought it'd be pretty true to the rifle, ha ha.

[rondog]

I found a guy that works on the Grands, 30 Carbines, 1907 and so on. He went over the rifle with me and it ended up a course on the rifle over 2 hours and 45 bucks later I now know the workings and what to look for and a whole lot of tips and tricks. He does parkerizing, wood refinishing and so on. Here is his card.
85176

I know Chuck, he refinished all the metal on my Garand. Did an excellent job, parkerized the parts that were originally parkerized, and blued the parts that were originally blued. I think he can work on damn near anything, but specializes in US military small arms, M1903's in particular.

[zimagold]

Mine shows up tomorrow! Was in line for a Field Grade, but switched to a Special Rack to get that fresh barrel and 3 months faster timeline. Got 200 rounds stocked for going out to the range. Best place to shoot 200 yard steel? I usually go to the keystone range but winter time isn't that fun up there, thought it'd be pretty true to the rifle, ha ha.

What was your total time from mailing application to it showing up? I put in for an Expert 308 last week. I was hoping for 2-3 months, but really have no idea.

[Little Dutch]

The CMP Received my order on 8/9/21. I got my invoice number 1/28/22. I’ll let you know when they arrive.

Experts are reportedly processing faster.

[doodguybro]

Experts seem to be going fast. I mailed my Field order in October but switched the order over a month ago, it shipped 3ish weeks later, then Fedex did its thing for a week with its "overnight" service. Maybe they mean they keep it overnight repeatedly? I got jokes.

It's here now though, a 9/44 receiver, and treating the stock. Going back and forth on how to treat the stock, but I did a first coat of linseed oil last night.

[Little Dutch]

The CMP Received my order on 8/9/21. I got my invoice number 1/28/22. I’ll let you know when they arrive.

Experts are reportedly processing faster.

I got a tracking number today. Too early to see an estimated delivery date. But, odds are good I won't be home to sign for it.

Edit - Disregard. That tracking number was for a Powder Valley order, not the CMP. I jumped the gun a bit there.

[zimagold]

308 Expert Grade

Mailed 1/25
Received 1/27
Confirmation Email 2/15
Shipped 2/23
Received 2/24

Nicer than expected. Very clean 1943 SA receiver. Wood stock actually has a little character. Will be a nice shooter to replace the collectable 30-06 I passed on to a friend.

[Little Dutch]

Im debating on calling them at this point. Over a month since assigning me an order number now, no change in status. Anyone know what the expected timeline is from order # received to shipped for field grade rifles?

[doodguybro]

Can't hurt, but they seem to be slow to get stuff out that isn't the Experts, those are payroll rifles haha. My ammo order took 2 weeks after it pinged my card.
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=28081&page=1269 this shows some people going from E-store to ship in 5 days, so it wouldn't hurt to hit them up.

I emailed them and they responded in a day or so.

[Little Dutch]

Good to know. It was after hours so I sent off an email last night. I’ll wait and see, thanks for the info.

[Little Dutch]

The CMP Received my order on 8/9/21. I got my invoice number 1/28/22. I?ll let you know when they arrive.

Experts are reportedly processing faster.

CMP got back to me relatively quickly on my inquiry. Hurry up and wait.


Your order is currently on backorder. We are waiting on the armory to increase the inventory on the Field grade rifles. The sales dept is currently working on field grade orders that were received in late June-early July.

We do appreciate your patience with the lengthy wait on your firearm. Continue to watch your email for updates and status of shipment.

[doodguybro]

Yeah, seems like they must be delivered in batches, as the CMP thread always pumps through. I spent my wait time digging for ammo, ha ha. The CMP ammo I think is the best ammo though, considering the Lapua once fired brass sells for nearly a dollar a shell!

[wctriumph]

I sent a inquiry to the CMP stating that I was I interested in acquiring a service grade in other than a Springfield and received the following reply:

CMP’s inventory is very low. We sell tens of thousands of rifles per year for the past few decades, it was bound to happen. We do continue to try and secure what little is left out there in different countries but is not a guarantee. We were inundated with orders during covid and election year and we are still trying to fill orders from a year ago for the service and field. We no longer accept mail orders for those or stock our stores with them. Instead we are building Special Rack grades and Expert Grades with GI parts, new wood and barrels to use what resources we can.

[Little Dutch]

I sent a inquiry to the CMP stating that I was I interested in acquiring a service grade in other than a Springfield and received the following reply:

CMP’s inventory is very low. We sell tens of thousands of rifles per year for the past few decades, it was bound to happen. We do continue to try and secure what little is left out there in different countries but is not a guarantee. We were inundated with orders during covid and election year and we are still trying to fill orders from a year ago for the service and field. We no longer accept mail orders for those or stock our stores with them. Instead we are building Special Rack grades and Expert Grades with GI parts, new wood and barrels to use what resources we can.

It was bound to happen, and I suspected this may be the last chance to order when I put in my order back in August '21. I just hope mine actually ship out at this point. Still waiting...

[doodguybro]

Dang, huge bummer! Too bad there's literally thousands more rifles all over the world that the US Gov't refuses to import. Glad I got mine when I did. Great freakin rifle! RTI has some if you are getting itchy.

[Little Dutch]

The CMP Received my order on 8/9/21. I got my invoice number 1/28/22. I?ll let you know when they arrive.

Experts are reportedly processing faster.

I got an email 2 weeks ago assuring me my rifle would ship, but asking if I'd like to upgrade to a Service grade and get it sooner. I didn't have to think about. It arrived this week. I'm pleased. It's bone dry and needs a good bath, has new CMP wood, but otherwise is pretty danged nice.

[doodguybro]

You ended up with a Service grade? Nice! I upgraded to the rack special for a fresh barrel, and its in good shape! Those stocks are dry indeed.

[Little Dutch]

You ended up with a Service grade? Nice! I upgraded to the rack special for a fresh barrel, and its in good shape! Those stocks are dry indeed.

I did. Not only that, and I was hesitant to mention it because people aren't generally excited for others good fortune, I got a '54 HRA that gauged at 3 and 2. I am pleased with my upgrade. Lucky.

[doodguybro]

Awesome! My receiver is a 6/44 production, so I'm pretty happy with that, even if the other parts have been replaced.

[Little Dutch]

My buddy got a 4/44 production Springfield that gauged well enough. It had the older locking rear sight on it which we thought was cool. He was excited to get an honest WWII gun. I would have been too. Congratulations on getting an honest WWII Rifle!

did you get original wood?

[doodguybro]

Naw, this one is a Special Rack so its a new barrel, and new wood. Really fun rifle, I had never shot one till last weekend in the desert! I did a couple coats of linseed oil on the stock right when I got it and had broken it down to grease/oil everything.

edit:Lets see those pics!

[doodguybro]

FYI CMP just restocked their match grade ammo. https://estore.thecmp.org/Catalog/Item/4C3006CS167-100

[Little Dutch]

The Field Grade M1 Garands are available for order again. I spent a fair amount of time perusing pictures after reading the description. I'm going to pass based on expected condition, but if you want one now's the time.

[Oscar77]

FYI:
Cabelas (Southside I25: What is it Parker?) has 6-7 M1's.
High priced 12-2200 or there abouts.
Just looked at them thru the glass.
Several were some sort of match conditioned................

[def90]

When the order onslaught hit them they should have suspended the 8 rifles per year thing. It’s a bummer knowing that guys out there were maxing out their 8 a year plus 8 for their wife and 8 for each of their kids and who knows some of those guys probably had their parents and siblings signed up as well. It’s hard to believe they already tore through the Phillipine shipment.

[Little Dutch]

When the order onslaught hit them they should have suspended the 8 rifles per year thing. It’s a bummer knowing that guys out there were maxing out their 8 a year plus 8 for their wife and 8 for each of their kids and who knows some of those guys probably had their parents and siblings signed up as well. It’s hard to believe they already tore through the Phillipine shipment.

There's an awful lot of CMP M1 Garands on Gunbroker.
I was just buying them for my personal collection and enjoyment, had I realized they were worth a quick $400 upcharge each just for ordering and reselling...

[doodguybro]

Yeah it's pretty lame they let people order so many. For a company who's supposed goal is to spread the love of rifle shooting, letting a bunch of retirees with too much money hoard them all is dumb. But it does pay the bills. Glad I got mine atleast.